Friday, March 4th, 2005
04
MAR
GTA Blame Game Escapes America as New Zealanders Hitch a Ride

GTAGaming.com - General News | @ 04:36 AM MDT | By Neil
A New Zealander who kidnapped and subsequently robbed a teenager as he withdrew cash at an ATM has told police it was like "playing Grand Theft Auto".
Cory Daniel Blue Gawith and an unknown accomplice demanded money from the teenager as he was making a transaction at a cash machine. When the teenager refused, they stole his car keys, cellphone and bank account card, taking the teenager for a distressing high speed ride around the local town until he surrendered his PIN which allowed the criminals access to his funds.
"He said it was like playing a PlayStation game called Grand Theft Auto."
-- Aroha Cooper, Police Prosecutor


Gawith will be sentenced on April 28th. This case is the first international instance of the "GTA Blame" culture that is a frequent occurrence in United States courtrooms.

Source: Rotorua Daily Post
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kisiel666
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FFS another moron? Damn.
03-04-2005 04:53 AM
icepick
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Great! Another idiot who tries to justify his stupidity by blaming GTA. Why don't any of these fools just own up:"Hey, I'm an inmature brat, I haven't grown up yet, responsibility for my actions is something I've yet to learn. I deserve to be punished for doing something illegal!"

In the 80ies fools like this guy blamed their inmature behaviour on heavy metal and gansta rap, now it's video games. The only thing that hasn't changed over the decades is the basic stupidity behind the motivation to commit these actions. Also, society's unwillingness to admit to having fostered these knuckleheads and needing a scapegoat. And loving these stupid excuses which allows it to cast off any responsibility and pouncing on childish comments like "Duh. GTA make me do it".

Why doesn't anybody see a comment like that for what it is? A pathetic excuse.
03-04-2005 06:19 AM
ballagrl23
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Man, these idiots are taking over the planet... Very well said icepick, agree with you 100%.
03-04-2005 08:07 AM
Ladios
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These morons our givin a bad name to gamers. What? Do they need a lable saying "do not try this at home"?. AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on!!! I!!!! IF!!!!! AGGGGHHHH!!!! Thats so stupid i cant even think of an insult!!!! (and i'm normally very good at that)
03-04-2005 08:33 AM
The Godfather
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Well guys, I've been thinking about this over and over and I made myself some sort of theory. Those that were caught doing these actions have been blaming the game GTA. Now, maybe this is just some stupid excuse they made up to give an interesting thought to the court, we never know. Since most people have internet these days, so they check the news, and with all the crimes made by the youth, wich were mostly blamed on GTA, they try to do the same in case they get caught, this way they can say: "Hey I know im a dumbass, but still, I did it because of GTA, im not the only Mr. Judge, look at the news. It makes us crazy, dont blame me, blame GTA, keep me outta jail, will ya?". You guys understand what im coming at huh? Anyways maybe this is jsut some stupid theory, or maybe these guys were really trying to be somebody else, someone that they are not, a video game character. This simply means that they have some problem somewhere in their head. Thank You. lol...
03-04-2005 09:52 AM
King Cobra
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meh, world is full of these idiots. btw, just a note to Neil:
people who are born in New Zealand, are called Kiwis (no shit). thats what my english told me anyways :P

Edit:
Informal. A 'New Zealander'. found it on the dicitionary.

[ post edited 03-04-2005 11:23 AM by King Cobra ]
03-04-2005 10:58 AM
Glonch
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Ok - how about this...

Let's say that GTA was all about "Go mow lawns" - would we have idiots out there mowing lawns????

Very convent excuses... "The game made me mow all those lawns..."

Later
03-04-2005 11:25 AM
GTA Mike
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what a loser
03-04-2005 11:33 AM
Sleepernaut
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AHH! Iam tired of all this bull crap.
03-04-2005 11:42 AM
OkComputer
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For Fucks sake, Im sure Jack Thompson is hiring these people.
03-04-2005 12:30 PM
sanandreashalo
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this is hilarious. Grand Theft Auto is taking over the world. The funny thing is I dont remember robbing an ATM in any gta game. How old is this guy? Thats the important factor they dont tell us how old he is. Well san andreas has sold 12 million copies around the world, let the madness continue......
03-04-2005 02:03 PM
fastlane912
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WHY ARE THEY BLAMING GTA.....didnt they see the (M) 17+ for mature on the package???
03-04-2005 02:35 PM
The Godfather
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fastlane12, yes they did, but certainly like you me and the others, they didnt care... yet we dont go around killing each other or running over people....wait take that back,lol.
03-04-2005 03:08 PM
GTT
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I predict the next blame:

Location: Canada
Date: May 2005
Time: Unknown
03-04-2005 03:12 PM
zPuP
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Someone hires people and give them money to do this we all know it.It would be nice if someone just admits it.
03-04-2005 03:29 PM
King Cobra
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zpup, do you have any idea how lame that is. someone hires them? pfft, i think they do do it on their own free will. how would jack thomson or any other hippie consevalist hire them? they would just pick a ramdom petty thug in the street and pay them millions to kill or rob someone?

btw, when i said 'hippie', please do no think that i am an anti-hippie. i am in no way a prejudice person

[ post edited 03-04-2005 03:36 PM by King Cobra ]
03-04-2005 03:34 PM
zPuP
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Dude you dont know anything Jack pays them alot of money to sit in jail and to give GTA a bad name.Now do you know what your talking about?
03-04-2005 04:11 PM
yusuke15
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hmm good point king jack thomson did say he wants to rid of the video companys rockstar and sony "arggg i hate those consevalisy fuckers !!!
03-04-2005 04:11 PM
Zachnorn
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People will always blame GTA for something. There have been dozens of cases about this.

By the way, I don't think Jack Thompson could do anything in New Zealand. He is am American lawyer, he probably can't do anything in NZ. Different laws, different trials, etc.
03-04-2005 04:35 PM
Sam
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i must have missed the ATM mission......
03-04-2005 04:41 PM
kin
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F*ck them! They could have been payed by some moron lawyer!
Or lots of criminals are using GTA excuses to get lower sentences... justice is blind.

I can easily rob a gas station and say "It's like playing GTA". Morons!

[ post edited 03-04-2005 04:47 PM by kin ]
03-04-2005 04:43 PM
GTA Saif
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i dun get it since gtacame out hese motehr fuckers dun got ne other game to blame like true crime strts of la or the getaway or simpsons road rage..lol i really hate it when gtagets the blame.
03-04-2005 05:05 PM
GTA Mike
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it's like you go up to someone, kill them with an ak, the cops surround you, about to kill you, just yell 'it was gta' and your fine, sigh..
03-04-2005 05:06 PM
Gupi22
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this is just rediculous
03-04-2005 06:20 PM
King Cobra
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*sighs* are you so blind to actually see that GTA IS a violent game? And do you actually think that gta is the ONLY game to get blamed for something? I've seen lots of cases about other games getting blamed for some crime. Dont think gta is the only reason someone commits a crime. you never know if he was raised in a tough neighborhood, or maybe his parents where violent towards their children, you never know. and when these people play gta, they become influeced by it, and by the other things that happened in their lives. gta isnt always the only reason someone commits a stupid crime.
03-04-2005 06:35 PM
GoriLLA89
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bloody hell again...you shiteing me again..... damn it damn it damn it.

you knwo to even stupiter judges this only strengthens jacks case. people stop being stupid and stop jsut agggggghhh stop it. there should be a rpison for these people where if you claim gta infulenced you you are forced "clockwork orange style."

to play nothing but pong 50 years of your life that way when you get out you will have missed out on all the great games we all got to play by not beign stupid and then blaming gta.

i'm not normal for thise but if there is a chance that there are a section of people stupid enough to imatate gta then we should nuke them before htye reproduce and make little miniature idiot replicas of themselves. seriously.
03-04-2005 07:00 PM
King Cobra
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GoriLLA89, do you have any idea of how stupid your idea is? nuke people? beofre they reproduce in large amounts? This isnt pest control. of course they are very stupid to commit a crime, but killing them isnt needed. make them pay for it, but dont kill them.
03-04-2005 07:06 PM
GoriLLA89
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okay lets look at manhunt....for a minute...now i don't actauly believe that case cause the firend who was kielld had the game not the killer. but he strangled the kid with a wire just like in man hunt these people are dangersous to themselves and others but fine i know what i said was extreme and frankly for the most part it was a joke but you want to get real lets get real.
03-04-2005 07:14 PM
King Cobra
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People are violent by nature.There has been lots of real violent crimes that have not had any influence from any game. my point is, that ssomeone wont strangle someone just because they saw it happen in a game.
03-04-2005 07:24 PM
GoriLLA89
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well i will jsut repspectfuly agree to disagree what these peopel do is not nature and not natural. but you have you view i have mine either is valid nore wrong but as i said i'll jsut agree to disagree with you so the topic can move on.

oh and i'm not on the side of peopel who say that video games teach peopel to kill but there coudl always be someoen who is...it can happen i jsut don't beleive it and i'm sick off all the people who say video games teach kids to kill.

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03-04-2005 07:30 PM
King Cobra
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dont take me wrong, i hate those peeps that says video games makes you kill people.
03-04-2005 07:34 PM
gtaguy112
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what the hell is wroung with these people
03-04-2005 08:59 PM
gtaguy112
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fucked up people
03-04-2005 09:00 PM
GoriLLA89
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i hear that cobra there was thsi retired army major that wrote a book called "stop teachign our childeren to kill." his mna revelation is that doom liek games are used to train soilders so that ment that doom was secretly teachign our kids how to kill. of course he forgot that studies showed that while the sales of doom rose...gun viloence amongst kids fell. oops lol
03-04-2005 09:15 PM
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Hey guys, I'd like to apologize on behalf of the rest of New Zealand for this silly, silly case. I just hope Jack Tompson doesn't get wind of it...
03-04-2005 09:20 PM
Zachnorn
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How about I blame Nintendo and the Mario games because I jumped on a turtle and killed it?

What if I blame Pong for throwing a ball at someone?

What if I...you get the idea. Those people blaming GTA are just as stupid as someone blaming those games mentioned above for those reasons.

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03-04-2005 10:07 PM
QuentinVance
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Yeah, Im another New Zealander (kiwi) on here, and I swear we are not all like this. This guy is bloody nuts - and if Jack Thompson even shows up here I will personally beat the crap out of him at the airport customs desk.
He wouldnt be able to sue here though - our justice system is a bit different here in NZ (one might say that it is a better legal system because f**knuts like Jack cant sue!!).

But notice how you never see any 'good' effects of computer games in the news? Like a NASCAR driver saying he won the championship because he plays NASCAR 2004 continuously? Or someone succeeding with a relationship because they played the Sims?
Either that, or the news is biasest (Rupert Murdoch - Im looking in your direction)
03-04-2005 11:36 PM
specter
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uhh the idea of driving around really fast to get info actually probably is taken from that gta mission where you do the same thing. I think he probably did get the idea from that.
03-04-2005 11:47 PM
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i am not to justify anything but when i hear sometimes in the radio the songs Gold , nobody touch or any other song in the vice city soundtrack while driving my car i feel like i am the game and i think, "vice city is the best game i will remember for the rest of my life".
03-05-2005 12:22 AM
sanandreashalo
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this controversy means more money and sales for Rockstar and Take Two.... these headlines get attention and people look at the games and buy them.... Im sure rockstar laughs at the lawyers cause its a mature rated game, so they are fine if they are kids doing crazy stuff. Of course GTA is violent, but its a very violent world out there, so the games are a reflection of the violent world. How many games are made on the war in iraq? I see a lot of military games out there now. And there will always be new Grand Theft Auto games, because they are the most popular and controversial. 12 million copies of san andreas sold, no other game can match that, san andreas is number one, so it takes the shots too, but look at Rockstars financial statement..... they are laughing to the bank.
03-05-2005 12:29 AM
Squeak
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it crap
03-05-2005 02:28 AM
RCagent
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People, what's wrong with this guy? He didn't blame Grand Theft Auto, he just made a statement. It's just a nutcase making a statement. He's not blaming anything he's just saying it.
03-05-2005 08:36 PM
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bugger as i was thinking thins whould not happen here and the game is R18 here and he is a native

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03-06-2005 02:01 AM
joe_zombie
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"He said it was like playing a PlayStation game called Grand Theft Auto."

oh f*** here we go agian, we will hear about another killing within a few weeks where some one blames gta. I'm starting to get use to seeing it.

note to self: Run over Jack Thompson with car and then ask him to defend me in court against gta....*rolls eyes*
03-06-2005 05:42 PM
bearerofbadnews
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Freaking New Zealnders, stop being idiots!
03-06-2005 07:05 PM
Hyper Death
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There's no call for that shit, bearerofbadnews! This is the first NZ case, and probably the last.
03-06-2005 09:39 PM
Timbli
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bloody kiwis, lol

they lose the cricket and the plot
03-06-2005 11:34 PM
Hyper Death
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We pwn you guys at rugby and life. _

But I don't wanna start any wars here or go off topic, so enough. (Sorry mods!)
03-06-2005 11:54 PM
King Cobra
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bearerofbadnews and Timbli, just stop saying useless things. It wasnt NZ fault. you cant blame one persons action on a whole nation.
03-07-2005 04:01 PM
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I agree. Besides, theres no fundaments to say that if you don't EVEN know a new zealander. but enough of all this, its all off-topic.
03-07-2005 04:08 PM
 

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