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San Andreas Delay - PStwo to blame?

GTA: San Andreas - General News | @ 05:19 PM MDT | By Neil
When Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE) hold their 'strategy conference' next Tuesday, in Tokyo, the look on the media's faces will be that of "I told you so". Rumours have been flying around the UK gaming media, including respectable trade only publications like MCV and EDGE, that a slimmed down version of the Playstation 2, similar to the PSone, is in development. Bloomberg have already announced that Ken Kutaragi has been earmarked for the conference, suggesting a major announcement from SCE. Held just days before the 2004 Tokyo Game Show, it seems to be the ideal launch pad for a new console.

Claims have been made that the development of the revamped machine is further along than many would think, and that it is on course for a Fall 2004 release. With this being the case, could San Andreas' delay be due to pressure from Sony? The Japanese giant knows the huge potential of the Grand Theft Auto series, and understands that it alone can make gamers part with their cash in exchange for new consoles. Many will dismiss this with "Vice City suffered the same delay", but this too can be discounted by looking into Rockstar's current campaigns for the game's promotion. Several magazines across the United States and continental Europe have already printed advertisements for the game, with the original release dates. (19/22 October respectively). Clearly this 'push' from Sony will have come in the past two weeks, considering Rockstar's initial confidence of meeting the deadline.

Several online sources have also suggested that with November being a crucial month for console competition (Halo 2 and GTA: San Andreas both launched within two weeks of each other), Sony are eager to crash Microsoft's party. With only one of their 'killer-apps' available to launch at the same time as the console, Sony's contractural agreement with Rockstar may have been stretched to allow both to launch simultaneously.

While there's no official word on this, all will be revealed this Tuesday, when journalists will scrutinize Kuturagi's every word.

Silent contributions from: Gamespot, SPOnG & Kikizo
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grrrrrrrr
04-30-2004 02:46 PM
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3 words.

It better not.
09-16-2004 05:21 PM
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some websites shows scanned screenshots, does this mean they are fake and being scanned to prove that,or are they just poor quality screens
09-16-2004 05:38 PM
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I just posted this news a little earlier, if sony think's that they can crash Halo 2 release date, then they are stupid.
It would be like Microsoft thinking they could crash GTA-SA release date.
Meaning, these are the 2 best games of 2004, no game could crash their release date, delaying 1 week for just those stupid reasons, god, companies are so dumb sometimes.
09-16-2004 05:41 PM
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I Dont zget it :S
09-16-2004 05:45 PM
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is it delayed again or is this just talkin about the oct 25 delay
09-16-2004 05:55 PM
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..about that oct 25 delay
09-16-2004 06:06 PM
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Are you saying it would not work for the current PS2?

Would Sony do this to the gamers? It's almost extortion. It will have bad repercussions for them.

For instance, I know I wouldn't be able to buy the new console as much as I would like to. When making a purchase of a few hundred dollars people tend to plan for the purchase in advance. I mean, initial SA sales would not match those of VC. And don't forget that millions of people have already preordered the game.
09-16-2004 06:11 PM
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they wouldnt do that #8
09-16-2004 06:15 PM
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That is dumb man. If they do decide to delay and make a new console they should let us trade in our old one and with the purchase of San Andreas or any other new game we should get the new console.
09-16-2004 06:28 PM
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If they did, i'd kill myself. :P
09-16-2004 06:28 PM
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Could Some one clue me in here?
09-16-2004 06:42 PM
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this is plain retarted they shouldent of got everyones hopes up and then say they r comin out wit a new counsle
09-16-2004 06:44 PM
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Tech, what they are basically saying in the newpost is that R* may delay the game further because of pressure from Sony of Japan so that it wouldn't take sales away from their new PStwo console.

Personally, I think it's a load of rubbish because Sony would know that people are going to buy the game anyways over a new console. The people they will market this console to are those who don't yet have a PS2, as it will be cheaper and smaller.

It's really just their way of extending the lifetime of the PS2, by releasing a slimmed down version of the console. I honestly don't see why they would see San Andreas as a threat to sales, because those who are going to buy the game already know so in advance and already have a console to play it on.

It's just media speculation, meant to be taken with a grain of salt. I highly doubt San Andreas will be delayed due to a new console release.
09-16-2004 06:48 PM
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Er, I mean I highly doubt the initial San Andreas delay is due to pressure from Sony for their new console release. I'll stick to what R* has said already regarding the delay, that it's just so that they'll have enough time to finish testing and make enough copies to meet demands.
09-16-2004 06:53 PM
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they better not delay it cause of the new system
09-16-2004 06:55 PM
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here is an idea for R*, tell Sony to shove it and put SA on Xbox and PC instead. noone likes PS2 anymore. at least i dont. more people would rather have SA on Xbox and PC anyway.
09-16-2004 06:58 PM
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R* get -paid- to keep it PS2 exclusive at launch. They make more money than they would if they were cross-platform.

'noone likes PS2 anymore'. I'm sick of these comments. I love the PS2 and own an XBOX as well. I like the PS2 library better. Your opinion is not objective fact, neither is mine.
09-16-2004 07:16 PM
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I have one question. Who's going to bother buying another PS2 for hundreds of dollars just because it's been "slimmed down"? I sure as heck won't. I just want this game.
09-16-2004 07:28 PM
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whats the point of doing this PStwo business if PS3 is coming out. Man... i preger PS3 over PStwo... anyone know when it comes out?
09-16-2004 07:33 PM
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They want money, and people give them money. You can thank stupid rich white woman.
09-16-2004 07:34 PM
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Do you think they would package San Andreas with PSTwo?
09-16-2004 07:44 PM
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Fuck the new system, the PS2 isn't that old. I didn't mind the one delay, but if a second one rolls around - I'll be really pissed, but still wait anyway because I'm a little bitch like that.

--memphis monroe
09-16-2004 07:46 PM
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You people are idiots! PSTwo is no stronger then PS2. Its not like all of a sudden they're going to change all the coding in San Andreas for the PS3. Its still a PS2, only smaller, you can still play SA on your original PS2.
09-16-2004 07:50 PM
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i figured something this colplex would confuse most of you. this is talkign about the delay we have already experienced, give an idea as to why it happend. you do not have to by a new PStwo in order to play the game. this is also not another delay. read it again yall.
09-16-2004 08:28 PM
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I could post
"You know what would be a dumb thing to say, I hate niggers"
then people would be omg you racist!!!11111!
because they would only read part of it and not fully understand the text
09-16-2004 08:35 PM
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its all business. thats all.
09-16-2004 08:57 PM
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the reason why PSTwo will be inferior to PS2 is because they'll take out the cooling system just like how the PSOne burns out after 5 hours (thats still alotta playing time). Casual gamers will like the idea because they don't play as long and casual gamers also do not like spending much money.
09-16-2004 08:59 PM
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Let me explain the news:
First, the PSTwo will be to the PS2 what the PSOne is for PS1.
Second, the date of release is still october 26, it's just that Sony "could" have forced R* to change the release date from october 19 to october 26 so that GTA-SA would be released together with the PSTwo, they probably think that doing this, it will boost the PSTwo sales.
09-16-2004 09:16 PM
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If that's the case then SONY is completely retarded. Noone, well at least the majority of people who already own a PS2 (and those who don't as well) will not want to spend $200+ on a "slimmer" console which is basically the same as the original PS2. It's just retarded, I'd rather buy a used original PS2 for 120$ rather than spending a couple hundred more on a PStwo.
09-16-2004 09:27 PM
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This reminds me, I may need to replace my PS2 soon. The drive door is starting to stick--and besides it's been through 4 years of hard use. It's probably time to replace it.
09-16-2004 09:33 PM
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That news post looks like it was put together by a mental patient on furlow, made little sense, and confused the hell out of everyone, great job!
09-16-2004 09:50 PM
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It's not that hard to understand, although i saw this news around 2 hours before GTAGaming posted it, and it was more easier to understand.
The PSTwo might be released with a new price of $129 dollars, i guess they will take out a lot of the hardware's components.
09-16-2004 10:04 PM
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486=1990
09-16-2004 11:18 PM
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Heh, I thought Sony would be making a PStwo a few years ago, so I sketched out a concept pic, I just remade it in photoshop and thought I'd share it ;)
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/5335/PStwo.jpg

-A13x
09-16-2004 11:29 PM
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Im sure it will be to boost their sales. I dont think they could do something like that, after declaring it for the PS2.
09-17-2004 12:46 AM
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Maybe the new Ps2 will be smaller and perhaps have more Ram and a better 3D accelarator. But the games on the new Ps2 will Also work on the old Ps2. THE NEW one might just be better at the same game.
09-17-2004 02:20 AM
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That could be a idea, but i never will think R* would delay their game again. The new version of the Ps2 would even hit the shops like January or even later!
09-17-2004 02:22 AM
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"[b]Sony[/b] has no [i]PStwo[/i] plans at this time."

They have stated it, even though the trademark has been registered.
09-17-2004 03:28 AM
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Now I wonder.. Why the hell don't italics work here!
09-17-2004 03:29 AM
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[b]I AM NOT SPEAKING A LIE[/b]
Hey I dont have a PS2 so i dont care if it comes for PS2 or not I need it for PC only. Now to the point, I saw GTA:SA in the Pirated Cds Shop and it was only Rs.200 thats almost US$4.
09-17-2004 04:42 AM
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for those who need clarification.....basically they are just saying that the cause for the first delay was due to this new pstwo nohting is said about another one.........also number 31 i have had my ps2 for 4 years and the disc reader and tray broke so i sent it up to sony and they fixed it for free (by replacing a new disk tray and stuff) all i needed to do was pay like 12 bucks for one way so just send it to them to fix it but you have to call sony tech first......
09-17-2004 04:51 AM
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Look, if they release a Pstwo at the same time as GTASA then it is to get NEW people into the ps2 library. Not people who already own a ps2.

#41: Whatever. Even if you were telling the truth it wouldn't be the real thing.
09-17-2004 05:21 AM
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Rumors now suggest that the prize of PSTwo is only $99! The Xbox and the GameCube are truely doomed!
09-17-2004 06:07 AM
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As if people are still trying to decide whether to get a PS2, or XBox, or a Gamecube. The only people who will buy the PSTwo are those that own one of the other systems.
09-17-2004 06:28 AM
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It is [b]impossible[/b] to purchase Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas on any platform, legally or illegally, at the present time.

1. RockstarGames doesn't release anything, why aren't there bundles of screenshots on the internet? This game would be everywhere by now.

2. It is not exactly possible to burn a 9.4GB dual-layered DVD disk with a normal DVD burner with all those components and the PS2 SDK pack with its special modifications included with San Andreas.
09-17-2004 06:36 AM
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Aslong as GTA San Andreas comes out on the 29th of October for ps2 i'll be happy.
09-17-2004 07:13 AM
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people will have two (2) options:

1) purchase GTA: San Andreas separately
2) purchase the PStwo / GTA: San Andreas bundle

also, PStwo = PS2 in a smaller form factor.
09-17-2004 07:51 AM
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#30

the PStwo is primarily targeted at people who do not have the PS2.
09-17-2004 07:53 AM
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@50....you are a Łucker with no life.
09-17-2004 10:43 AM
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i hate san andreas
09-17-2004 10:52 AM
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Well, they'll do whatever they have to do.
09-17-2004 10:56 AM
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i like gta 1 better than San andreas +
i think sony are right
09-17-2004 10:59 AM
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damnit quit spamming, im trying to read >=\
09-17-2004 11:12 AM
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It's time for an official site update...
What's keeping them...
09-17-2004 11:41 AM
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Seven hours from now it will be exactly four weeks ago since the last one.
09-17-2004 11:42 AM
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You could have at leat put the date and heading in bold!
09-17-2004 12:34 PM
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Still no update?
09-17-2004 02:00 PM
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No, that is not the reason that San An has been delayed a week. Vice City was delayed one week too and there didn't seem to be much reason for that other than getting everything ready to ship.
09-17-2004 03:06 PM
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I never once claimed that the two companies would bundle the game and console together.
09-17-2004 03:44 PM
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My post is about the delay already known. I'm providing an alternative explanation.
09-17-2004 03:44 PM
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reading all this want's me to have the game even more
09-17-2004 04:28 PM
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i'm gona die if i don't get it cause i already pre-ordered it, it's like drugs you gotta have it
09-17-2004 04:30 PM
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This games gonna rock no matter when it comes out. Seriously, even if it is delayed it said [b]NOVEMBER[/b], stop crying kids, thats a few weeks more, boo hoo.


[b]#65 by GTAGuest [2004-9-17 18:52:33][/b]

I agree, whats all the whining about?
09-17-2004 04:56 PM
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[size=3]Yo wazzup?[/size]
09-17-2004 04:57 PM
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whats taking r* so long with the faq relplys they said theyd answer?
09-17-2004 04:58 PM
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whats the deal w/ san fierro
09-17-2004 05:02 PM
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/09/17/news_6107820.html
09-17-2004 05:12 PM
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Nice site.
09-17-2004 05:46 PM
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hey #64 there is a reason to cry, i waighted for this game to release on it's orignal date, but now it's delayed
09-17-2004 06:14 PM
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did any body notice that they released all GTA games when school starts, they never release it in the summer. Do they want us to do bad in school.
09-17-2004 06:20 PM
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yeah im gonna fail the 8th grade cuz i be playin the gta sa instead of the english hmwk
09-17-2004 06:29 PM
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hows high school i be in it next year
09-17-2004 06:31 PM
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is this site american? by the way sony better not delay or else i call billgates
09-17-2004 06:36 PM
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no its a japanese site! see all the funny skwiggles
09-17-2004 06:40 PM
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when are they gonna update the offical site
09-17-2004 07:17 PM
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just realease the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09-17-2004 07:23 PM
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i want this Game NOW!!!!!!!! i dont feel like waiting till oct.26
09-17-2004 07:44 PM
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the local shop near me has san andreas realeased and i got IT AND IT IS SO GOOOOOOOOOOOD
09-17-2004 10:16 PM
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my life was gonna DIE until i got SA sorry people 4 getting it but it has realeased in NSW
Australia
09-17-2004 10:51 PM
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# 79 REALLY!? OMG!!!!!!! UR THE COOLEST KID I KNOW!
09-18-2004 01:03 AM
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#79 REALLY!? OMG!!! UR SUCH A LIEING PRICK!
09-18-2004 02:20 AM
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they always release the game when school starts and i end up gettin bad grades, WHY CANT THEY RELEASE IT IN THE SUMMER???????WHY??????
09-18-2004 06:59 AM
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i know man, this happens every year to me, i fail every year cause of a good game.
09-18-2004 07:02 AM
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THATS TRUE #83, and can some one please update the screen shots i keep on lookin at them
09-18-2004 07:06 AM
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yea 8th grade is hard enuff i dont wanna fail my last year in middle skool
09-18-2004 09:33 AM
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THE PSTWO WILL NOT EXCEED THE PS2 PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sheesh. just like the psone when it came out.
09-18-2004 09:42 AM
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I SAW GTA:SA FOR PS2 AT A PIRATED CD SHOP. I DONT HAVE PS2 SO I DIDNT BUY IT. I AM NOT GOING TO SELL THEM TO YOU. BUT I AM TELLING YOU THAT IT WILL COME ON PS2 NOT ON ANY OTHER CONSOLE. AND I MAY TELL YOU THAT I BOUGHT SPIDER-MAN 2 FOR PC FROM THE SAME SHOP ALMOST 2 MONTHS BEOFRE AND WHEN I TRIED TO FIND ITS CHEATS THEN I CAME TO KNOW THAT IT WAS EVEN RELEASED...:confused:

Hey I saw it myself if you dont believe so dont believe I just wanted to tell everyone.:o
09-18-2004 10:54 AM
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its not finished being made moron...
09-18-2004 12:09 PM
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is new ps2 better than normal PS2??? i can wait for GTA SA i got pentition (waiting) my english sucks lol
09-18-2004 12:16 PM
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Tell the person who owns this site to put up more screen shots cause i want to see more
09-18-2004 03:06 PM
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R* hadn't finished bug fixing, hence the delay.
09-18-2004 08:11 PM
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CAN ANY BODY TELL ME WAT THE PROBLEM IS WITH SAN ANDREAS???
09-18-2004 08:49 PM
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WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT??????????????????
09-18-2004 08:50 PM
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Yeah what is the bug????????
09-18-2004 08:52 PM
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There are always bugs in games that are in development. Even Vice City had bugs in it when it shipped, so it's not like they're going to delay the game. Unless of course the bug is really major.

They're just going to get as many serious bugs as they can and polish it up before they release. Besides, they wouldn't have announced a date for release unless they were confident the game would be ready by then.
09-18-2004 11:41 PM
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what is the big deal about the delay i would rather have to wait and have a game with little bugs then get the game early and it have a lot of bugs.san andreas is a big game after all pushing the hardware to the limit.
09-19-2004 12:27 AM
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i hate san andreas
09-19-2004 07:37 AM
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#98 if you hate san andreas why are you on this SITE????
09-19-2004 01:21 PM
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WELL......TELL ME
09-19-2004 06:14 PM
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WELL......TELL ME
09-19-2004 06:14 PM
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09-20-2004 02:44 PM
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well guess theres no new topic
09-20-2004 06:18 PM
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any body wana make one.............................................................
09-20-2004 06:19 PM
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Neil, you might as well put your retraction up now because Sony announced the PSTwo today. Here's the press release.. Oh and the reason why it says "September 21st" is because Japan is 14 hours ahead of the US's eastern time zone.

Tokyo, September 21, 2004 – Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCEI), announced today a completely new look for the PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system (SCPH-70000), which will become available in Japan, North America and Europe for the year-end peak selling season. The new model will be available in stores on November 3rd in Japan, and on November 1st in North America and Europe.
While inheriting the basic functions and design philosophy of the current PlayStation 2, the internal design architecture has been completely overhauled, resulting in a slimmer and more lightweight design. Internal volume has been reduced by 75%, overall weight has been halved, and thickness trimmed down to 2.8 cm (thickness of current model is 7.8 cm). Its size is almost as small as a hardcover book, making it easier to carry around and enjoy games and DVD videos anytime, anywhere.

Equipped with an integrated Ethernet port for network gaming, the new PlayStation 2 sets new standards in the fusion of design and functionality. In North America, approximately 40% (*1) of the PlayStation 2 on-line game users connect their PlayStation 2 to the networks through analog modem and reflecting the American users’ preference, North American model is equipped with both Ethernet and modem ports. During the year-end peak-selling season, about 80 on-line game titles are expected for release in Japan, and 120 titles and 65 titles respectively for North America and Europe. With the launch of the new network ready(*2) PlayStation 2, the further expansion of the world of on-line gaming is accelerated.

Gaining an overwhelming support from a wide range of users from all over the world, more than 72 million units of PlayStation 2 have been shipped as of today. Strongly supported by software developers and publishers, PlayStation 2 is indisputably the most popular computer entertainment system in the world and the new design will position it for ever greater success over the next half of its life. In the run-up towards the launch, the new PlayStation 2, will be displayed at Sony Computer Entertainment Japan’s booth during the Tokyo Game Show 2004, held from Friday, September the 24th to Sunday, the 26th, 2004, at Makuhari Messe, together with a rich number of exciting and attractive new titles scheduled for release towards the end of the year.

With the new PlayStation 2, together with the lineup of forthcoming new game titles, SCEI will continue to contribute to expand the market and to create a new world of computer entertainment.


(*1) According to SCEI’s DNAS (Dynamic Network Authentication System) data.
(*2) Internet Service Provider and appropriate Internet access (e.g. ADSL, cable, fiber, etc.) required. For further details regarding network connection, on-line games and peripherals supported with the new model (SCPH-70000 CB), please visit our customer support website (http://www.playstation.jp/info/).
09-20-2004 07:09 PM
 

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