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GTA fan strikes back at Saints Row 2 video

Grand Theft Auto IV - Community News | @ 06:33 PM MDT | By rappo
We reported earlier about a new Saints Row 2 video from the developers that was mocking GTA IV, and one GTA fan took it to heart. Video guru and GTAGaming member Brotha has put together the following video turning the tables on Saints Row 2 (also available at GameTrailers):


Be sure to discuss your reaction to the video in our forums!
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dronkmunk
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Registered: Mar 2008
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Sorry..but this was really lame. I appreciate that what you did but...yeah. Lame.
06-09-2008 07:20 PM
phlipp
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Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 103
dude who cares
he made the point that we all are thinking and this dude is my fuckin hero
mad props to these guys
06-09-2008 07:32 PM
Tyler
Every Time Zone

Registered: May 2007
Posts: 1,837
dronkmunk, i'd like to see your video that you took the time and effort to make...
Oh no? okay then.

Brotha, like ive said in your thread, brillant.
At least SOMEONE got back at SaintsRow and their bullshit.
congratulations.
06-09-2008 07:36 PM
Ænemy
Digital/Concept Artist

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 236
That video looks like Brotha put it together in less then an hour. Kind of mediocre. Not that I don't appreciate it at all, but the points made in the game are kinda dumb.

I like Saint's Row, not as much as the GTA Series. But I say it's up near there because of it's silly-ness and fun mini games.

Saint's Row did make a pretty low blow on GTA 4, which was definetely uncalled for. I don't care though.



Still, nice job Brotha. Somebody has to strike back. Two sides.
06-10-2008 12:10 AM
arslanz1
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Registered: Mar 2008
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SR2 or SR is piece of shit! I'm a true fan of GTA & plz don't compare this shit wid the greatest game (GTA).
sorry to all SR fans but this is GTA's place not SR's

[ post edited 06-10-2008 12:12 AM by arslanz1 ]
06-10-2008 12:11 AM
Trumpormonkey
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Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 25
Seriously, any people who come here and say that it was lame or a bad video... why don't you put your time into making a video (like tylerwisniewski said)

Or if you are a Saints Row fanboy and hate GTA go to a Saints Row forum and flame GTA there, they only called this site "Gtagaming" for a reason, nobody cares what you think of Grand Theft Auto 4 here.
06-10-2008 12:36 AM
Jaytow
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Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 369
................ Good physics does not make a game worth playing.. GTA 4 is no "fun" and yes it might look like the ferrari of open world games but it is not fun to play at all. So yes I would rather play in the same shitty old city and have fun than play with GREAT PHYSICS,
Never thought I'd prefer SR over GTA.
06-10-2008 02:22 AM
cam.0992
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Posts: 1
good work with the vid...i especially liked the voice over.lol
06-10-2008 03:17 AM
Aych Es Vee
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LOL, so the only thing this video is saying that GTA4 could have over SR2 is better physics and graphics??
GTA4 is pretty damn jaggy on my 1080p LCD anyway, never liked the graphics from the moment I turned it on.

This video really doesnt make any case for GTA4 then unfortunately.
I still have tons of fun with some games from Sega Genesis, and they dont have good graphics or physics at all.

I dont mean to take a stab at the makers of the video, but SR2 obviously looks like it has a lot more FUN things to do.


Seriously, If GTAIV kept all of the fun things that it DID HAVE from the games before it ........ the latest Saints Row 2 would be meaningless, and no one would care.
But R* stuffed up IMHO, and that latest SR2 video made the game look REALLY enticing.

As Jaytow said, "yes I would rather play in the same shitty old city and have fun than play with GREAT PHYSICS"
06-10-2008 04:02 AM
Butai
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Yes yes Jaytow and Aych Es Vee hit the nail right on the head thats exactly the point, physics dont mean shit what are you people...retarded? What you are pretty much saying is oooooo look at all the shiny things and ha ha man go flying through air, me happy clap* clap* snap out of it and see the game for what it is...boring. Dont get me wrong it was fun the first two times i played and yea ill probably take it of the shelf one day down the track, dust it off and give it another go but it doesnt live up to the expectations that they have created from the last 3. And those ppl that say that we were the ones that wanted all the pretty stuff and effects, it was just you guys not us.

[ post edited 06-10-2008 05:52 AM by Butai ]
06-10-2008 05:44 AM
Josh1988
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Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 40
I love GTA IV but this video doesn't change my opinion at all.

In the end, I think we're all gonna be surprised on how well Saints Row 2 does. What do you wanna bet SR 2 actually comes out on the release date of October 14? Coincidently close to the other GTA release dates. hmmm..

IV- Original Release date Oct. 16 2007
San Andreas-Oct. 26 2004
Vice City-October 29 2002
III-Oct. 23 2001

[ post edited 06-10-2008 12:00 PM by Josh1988 ]
06-10-2008 10:51 AM
envision89
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honestly people gta IV is better (my opinion) It took 4years to make. They are just trying to make SR2 look better. The release date is pretty close (probably be the same a SR1)
06-10-2008 12:14 PM
Sk_nk
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Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 1
brotha you are the MAN! You are the hero! You did what was needed to be done. Those guys - creators of Saint Row 2 think their ugly and stupid game will be better than GTA, NO WAY! GTA will always (i hope so)) be the best !
06-10-2008 12:44 PM
psp229lar
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Registered: Jun 2008
Posts: 0
sweet game but when will ya make gta 4 psp. you already made 2 gta games 4 psp so why did you stop. you could make the game gta liberty city stories part two

[ post edited 06-10-2008 01:22 PM by psp229lar ]
06-10-2008 01:12 PM
MisterBlanco
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Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 136
Brotha.... Straight up.... No.

This video did not do GTA 4 justice.
"Or would you rather do this *shows niko fly off bike*.... this *shows niko fly off bike* ... this ..*shows Niko fly off bike* or maybe ..this.. *shows niko fly off bike*.."

IT WAS THE SAME THING JUST DIFFERENT AREAS. G'sus! Saints Row 2 did a low blow to GTA4 and got them really good. This video....................no comment.
06-10-2008 02:11 PM
Brotha
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Registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 260
Blanco, the motorcycle clips were supposed to demonstrate the awesomeness of Euphoria, dising SRīs old Havok engine. and euphoria looks awesome when crashing. Since that part was about "Physics", I showed off some physics.
06-10-2008 02:43 PM
Jonny98
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Posts: 10
bravo to them... stand up for what you believe it.. lol!
06-10-2008 08:37 PM
kamov23
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Registered: Jun 2008
Posts: 0
Brotha, please, make a video that does justice for all of the great things gta4 does well.
The reason why you are getting so much criticism is because you countered 4 - 5 arguments made by SR with 1. In the next video, include, Niko flying through the windshield, off a bike, boat fights, running people over, helicopter flying (especially at sunset), high-speed police chases, etc.
06-10-2008 08:40 PM
Aych Es Vee
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Posts: 2
kamov23, I'm pretty sure SR2 has probably all those things too, except maybe flying through a windshield....
06-11-2008 02:10 AM
Aych Es Vee
Registered User

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 2
also, why do people keep saying games like this are GTA clones?


Is everyone forgetting Driver and Driver 2?

Driver - "OMG, you can drive around a whole city"
Driver 2 - "OMG, you can drive around a whole city, + get out and steal other vehicles"
GTAIII - "OMG, you can drive around a whole city, + get out and steal other vehicles, + kill people"

etc etc.
06-11-2008 02:14 AM
JoshJG
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Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 8
Bad video, sorry man, i just think it was poorly compared. I think it was great of you to do those flying through the air stunts though, if they were put on a video which wasn't comparing the game to SR, then they would be great.

You should have added things like, the police computer, Niko climbing across the top of a lorry (one of the mission features), Niko blowing up a helicopter with a rocket launcher, etc. Theres loads of things you could have used for the vid.
06-11-2008 03:01 AM
Brotha
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Registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 260
Josh, I didnīt compare activities in the motorcycle section, I compared The physics and the total ownage of Euphoria against Havok, which SR2 uses, thats why I showed the stunts, cause they show the great thing that Euphoria is. None of the crashes look like the other when landing or flying through the air. If I wanted to compare activities, I would of course, but that was not the case now.

And to everyone, I did this video just for pure fun of it, I knew it would be some reactions, but cīmon..the disscussion over at http://www.gtaforums.com is plain stupid and ridicilous. Stuff like that make me dissapointed.
06-11-2008 05:02 AM
JoshJG
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Oh ok Brotha i see, i didn't realise, i apoligise. I didn't mean bad video or anything, i just meant bad feature comparison but now that i know youre comparing the physics engines of the two games, i can see what you were trying to point out in the vid. Yep it definately kicks Saints Row's ass over physics haha.
06-11-2008 09:19 AM
Brotha
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Registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 260
No problem, glad I could sort it out. :)
06-11-2008 10:38 AM
Qontrol
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Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 163
lol, Nice one.
06-11-2008 10:52 AM
Insanoblan
Registered User

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 1
While I don't support what the SR devs did as far as that video, trashing GTA4, this video doesn't exactly make a solid case.

The 3 clips of the euphoria crashes just show the one thing I hate about the euphoria engine: Every time you crash you do silly ass cartwheels.

And while GTA4 is very fun and I love it, the side stuff to do, while entertaining at first, got really old and became a chore to do. I honestly think I may enjoy SR2 better than GTA4, just because the extra stuff to do in it will be more exciting.
06-11-2008 06:37 PM
Jaytow
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Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 369
who the hell cares about physics?

Not me that's for sure..

I would rather have fun than look at the physics anyday of july.
06-12-2008 05:01 AM
carldj90
Registered User

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 27
personally, gta sa had so much more to make it sell more. big foot shit, among other things. they have nothing really going for gta 4. its kinda sitting there dead. i support rockstar in everything they do, but come on...what made gta, gta was the open sandbox of retarded shit. what happened to it? maybe the next gta will be more like the others. because i really feel as if they took a step back to gta 3 made the correct way.
06-13-2008 02:46 PM
Tw1sT3D
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Registered: Jun 2008
Posts: 0
lmao.1 of the gayest vids ever
06-13-2008 04:06 PM
Sk_nk
Registered User

Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 1
Brotha, you did a really nice video. The engine in GTA is so cool and it has so many great possibilities. GTA 4 is a masterpiece - to enjoy the game you need to admire the beauty of Liberty city, vehicles, peds, guns, weather etc. What I like most about GTA 4 is it's realism, but you can make police chasing you any time you want. And it would be a great chase.
And the other games like SR are just faded, dull and they really look like ripoffs. Of course, driver used to be a great game in the old days (driver 1 and 2) but then they stopped working on it, but R* continued to master this product till it became a real masterpiece. So, I don't understand those who started to cry (I hate GTA, the previous games were better and SR2 would be cool - after playing for a month and seeing SR2 shitty Wii-looking video) IMAO
06-14-2008 01:19 PM
chrisandy
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Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 10
................................... You're an idiot.
06-14-2008 02:44 PM
 

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