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Grand Theft Auto Takes Flak for 'Snowball Rage'

GTAGaming.com - General News | @ 11:51 AM MDT | By Neil
WCCO TV of Minneapolis recenty reported on an interesting story involving Grand Theft Auto. In January, 18-year-old Steven Arnold was charged with second-degree assault and criminal vehicular injury. Arnold allegedly drove his car into three High School students after they threw snowballs at his car, hitting one tire.
In an interesting twist, many are now suggesting that Arnold's actions were a direct result of his playing of the Grand Theft Auto series of video games. One of Steven Arnold's friends has informed reporters that they would regularly play games such as Grand Theft Auto: Vice City.
"The two of them for a lot of hours would play Grand Theft Auto, a game were you run over people on the sidewalk. These games particularly are causing kids to do things they wouldn’t otherwise do."
-- Jack Thompson, Attorney


While there is no evidence to suggest that Grand Theft Auto was in any way involved in this case, it seems unlikely that it could be used as a plausible 'excuse' for this behavior in court. We'll bring updates on this case as they are available.

Source: WCCO: Video Game May Be Used In Snowball Rage Defense
Thanks to Eighthours
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Jay Squirrel
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Thats fucking pathetic. Jack Thompson. You'll pay biaach.

Also, if these kids cant play gta and understand you cant do this. Why do they get it? Honestly, if your a psyco or like 11 years old and a moron, WHY do their pearants let them play it. Grand Theft Auto is a video game, Jack cant blame videogames. Ok how about this. I played donald ducks game for 3 hours and it made me.. get a big mallet and hit people on the head, would they blame it then? No.

[ post edited 02-14-2005 11:58 AM by Jay Squirrel ]
02-14-2005 11:53 AM
Big Smoke
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an aspiring tommy vercetti junior
02-14-2005 12:11 PM
matt__jon
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I'm gonna get a gravity gun and throw toilets at people. They'll blame GTA for it somehow.

Not saying GTA has no part in this, but it seems like GTA is becoming the new insanity plea. You know, how every case used to be "well, if he's guilty, he did it because he was mentally retarded. We can prove it."

Now its, "well, they did it because of GTA, because he has that game, and in that game you can do drugs, and blow up buildings with jet airliners" (for those who didn't catch it, last time I checked you can do neither, but I'm no hardcore gamer anymore, thanks to college.)
02-14-2005 12:24 PM
Ibram Gaunt
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Grand Theft Auto is the blame for this?!?! Oh of course, in GTA there was that guy who threw the snowball at you're tyre and you had to run him over! What non sense. Any "sane" person wouldn't do such actions. Why not blame movies! Why not blame songs etc. Its just this one game, as if its the only thing in the world that teens do. Some people... tutut.
02-14-2005 12:30 PM
Gupi22
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this is just ridiculous
02-14-2005 12:30 PM
timbob
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what an asshole
02-14-2005 12:36 PM
GTA-Raptor
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*blank stare* Snowballs? Snowballs with bombs? No? Regular ones? How the fuck does someone freak out over a snowball?
02-14-2005 12:55 PM
DJ Nick
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i agree ITS A F**** SNOWBALL!!! HOW CAN IT HURT PPL?????
02-14-2005 01:14 PM
GTT
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Jack Thompson is making more enemies. lol
02-14-2005 01:14 PM
Blueflame
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Oh my god...he played GTA, hes a criminal!
02-14-2005 01:16 PM
kenezzite
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i have to agree with all of you. That's ridiculous.
02-14-2005 01:45 PM
McReynolds
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completely ridiculous, no SANE man would run over three children after possibly seeing it done on GTA. The man is obvioulsy mentally unstable with no link to GTA at all
02-14-2005 02:05 PM
rokker
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When will this stop? Geez.
02-14-2005 02:16 PM
Bfett21
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watch the "jack thompson must pay" shit.....he loves it, and uses it to his advantage
02-14-2005 02:16 PM
kev
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there is one word that rounds up jack thompson and its c-u-n-t
02-14-2005 02:35 PM
wojtek666down
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its a shame he didnt kill them
02-14-2005 03:18 PM
Ken The Man
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Just look at him im alredy scared
02-14-2005 03:23 PM
passage
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Fuck you Steven, And you jack.
02-14-2005 03:40 PM
BigMike
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Thats ridicoulous, people should realize that this is a game, that game obivously had deep rooted issues, and should have taken a different approach to this situation.
02-14-2005 03:42 PM
Sleepernaut
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*cough*Bull Carp*cough* lol,liek,tes d00d's were throwing snow ballz at meh,so I liek,pwned them....with meh car.
02-14-2005 03:54 PM
Gogeta
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that bull crap you cant trow snow ball's in vice city
02-14-2005 04:17 PM
kisiel666
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Ye, ye, ye. Blah, blah, blah. People are dying on MALARIA because of GTA!!! :/
02-14-2005 04:21 PM
passage
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some one broke the speed limit!!!! IT WAS BURN OUT 3 I SWARE OMFG !! IT COMMANDS ME TO LISTEN TO IT...
02-14-2005 04:34 PM
Sam
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yep. violence is only in gta. thats it, nowhere else.
02-14-2005 04:52 PM
cyrix
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What a suprise Mr. Jack is behind this as well.....

These idiots always make this assnine assumption that the only thing you do in GTA is the same thing the person being charged did. IE: running over people, shooting people...etc...

They fail to realize those are minimalistic options within the game. There is a hell of alot more to do than that. Next thing you know we'll see someone died because they wrecked their dirtbike and then what? oh what's that? They played GTA? That MUST be the reason they did this!!! no it couldn't be because they see professionals doing it on TV all the time at all...IT'S GTA'S FAULT!!!

You never see news stories like: "fireman puts out fire with hose on firetruck. He played GTA too, so that's why he did it!!"

[ post edited 02-14-2005 05:44 PM by cyrix ]
02-14-2005 05:43 PM
specter
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I think gta probably did play a part in it. Think about it. If unstable and easly impressionable people play it they will pick up ideals and images and by "experiencing" it first hand they would be more influenced then by say a movie. I think its more of society then anything though. But it is true, the game does reward hit and runs, its not an acceptable excuse however.
02-14-2005 06:13 PM
Piggus
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I just don't understand why Jack Thompson even tries to win these sort of cases. Did you know he has never won a case against violent video games?

I might have to send this bish another e-mail...

[ post edited 02-14-2005 11:58 PM by Zidane ]
02-14-2005 06:19 PM
kin
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crap investigation, fire the whole team please. Got better conlusions?

I wonder if that lamer defends drugdealers for... "playing too much GTA" to become a drugdealer.

[ post edited 02-14-2005 07:28 PM by kin ]
02-14-2005 07:26 PM
sanandreashalo
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This shows you how popular the Grand Theft Auto games are, anything involving a car is automatically linked to GTA!!! Why is vice city singled out? you can run over pedestrians in all the gta games. This is so ridiculous. They threw snowballs at him so he got mad. Last time I checked, I dont remember seeing snowballs in any GTA game!!!!
02-14-2005 08:07 PM
passage
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What about Driver, Mercs. But no ,they have to pick on rockstar right? Damn you jack.
02-14-2005 08:18 PM
Lisitza
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besides he is 18 he can buy the game legally. thats no different than a 20 year old watchin a arnold swartzagerman movie and blowin somethin up, he is old enough to be acountable for his own actions, influenced or not
02-14-2005 08:52 PM
MIKE-rophone
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That's a bunch of bull. The press words it as if the game is centered around running people over. This guy is mental and he needs help. If you poll all the people that play any GTA game, 99.99999% would probably say that the game has no influence on their actions at all. This is ridiculous and these cases are ridiculous. The media is trying to bring these games down. Last week I saw an episode of Law & Order or some show involving the judicial system, and they tried to blame a murder suspect's actions on a video game like GTA. I hate how the press always twists things.
02-14-2005 09:13 PM
cyrix
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he is old enough to be held accountable.

They usually target younger kids and try to say "well they act this way because of a video game." It's not as if when you reach a certain age your level of impressionability somehow just magically changed. There are a hell of alot more factors what weigh in on this equation.
02-14-2005 11:24 PM
felix the cat to be
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NICE another idiot for vice city.
02-15-2005 03:22 AM
bigchrome
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(Quote)"But it is true, the game does reward hit and runs"
Vice city rewards hit and runs? the police chase you if you run someone down!
Besides i doubt anyone buys GTA just to run people down.
02-15-2005 03:55 AM
zPuP
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You know am gonna go run over someone and blame it on Jake or like Driver.
02-15-2005 04:44 AM
Jay Squirrel
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Ya know what. Why cant they talk about the actual good things in GTA. You can save people by taking them into hospital, put out fires.

You cannot blame your actions on a videogame. NOT a killing simulator. Im gonna get loads of guns and crap, in a big bag with big cloak and shoes on, go and kill loads of guards matrix stlye and say "The Matrix did it, so why cant i?"

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02-15-2005 09:43 AM
panos_G7™
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yea its always gta that is to blame,man if every kid played gta(or any other game with violence) and kill his friend or anyone else we wouldnt be alive
again that stupid f**k jack thompson.im wondering,has he ever won a case?
cant someone sh*t his mouth up?

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02-15-2005 10:06 AM
DJ_Zephyr
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Argh, here we go again... I have seen no material PROOF of video games being a direct cause of violence in ANY case. I can see little kids being influenced by this stuff, as they are young and imprintable, but the game does not TELL them to go out and do it in real life! But this kid is definitely old enough to know better, and the lawyer probably knows that fully well.

And why do they only blame the violence on video games anymore? Why dont they keep picking on movies and TV shows and even literature? Plenty of violence there. Of course, those mediums arent as interactive, which may be part of the reason. But they are FAR more popular.
02-15-2005 02:12 PM
GTT
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I wonder why they always say GTAVC and not Driv3r or True Crimes Streets of LA.
02-15-2005 02:57 PM
the guy!!
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THAT IS BULLSHIT!! IF SOMEONE HIT MY CAR WITH SNOW BALLS I WOULD RUN THEM OVER TOO!!! LMAO! ITS NOT BECOUSE OF GTA ITS JUST BECOUSE THEY PISSED HIM OFF!!
02-15-2005 03:08 PM
the guy!!
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OR MAYBE HE DIDNT SEE THEM HE ............DOES LOOK RETARDED!! LMAO
02-15-2005 03:09 PM
smiley
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ah that's f***ing bull sh*t......lame a** excuse.......smh!!!!......got damn wha's next.....smh!....dey not gonna belive that sh*t
02-15-2005 04:09 PM
smiley
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.......*no wordz*......smh......damn....he is a fresh......dumb.....ass.....di*k face.....mother f***er......-gone
02-15-2005 04:17 PM
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People like Jack Thompson really make me mad. Frankly this doesn't even make any sense, let's take a look. "The two of them for a lot of hours would play Grand Theft Auto, a game where you run over people on the sidewalk. These games particularly are causing kids to do things they wouldn’t otherwise do." Games like grand theft auto are NOT about diving on the sidewalk to run people over. It does however give the user the OPTION to do so, because we all know in real life you wouldn't even dare try such an act because of how sick it really is. This being said though this young person made his own choice and now I hope he gets a lot of time for his acts. Oh yeah not to mention for being retarded to over-react like he did. christ.
02-15-2005 05:26 PM
Johnny C
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Jack Thompson can't keep his hands off our freedoms.....
02-15-2005 05:47 PM
GoriLLA89
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you know jack tompson attacks this game when there are alot worse games out there. okay there is a game called "jfk reloaded."

a game with realistic bullet physics and actauly goes throught teaching you how to use a sniper rifle giving real life tips on snipering. then you take the rol eof lee harvey oswald and have to try to recreated the assasination of president kennedy....you get an instant repley but thats not all ify ou ae the msot historicaly accruate in yoru assasination you cna actaly win a cash prize.

you can't make this stuff up people this is a real game (look it up or don't) and while it doesn't come with a light gun it teaches you how to kill and rewards you for accurately shooting the president of you united states. and jack tompson attacks gta???

but yeah i grew up with mortal kombat i seen the stupidest agurments abotu how games are bad they teach us all to kill and everytime soemthign bad happens in america if there is a copy of gta in that hosue this asswipe jack tompson wants us to believe that...gta is a slient kill that can't be stopped it's teachign us how to kill with cars and crap.

bullshit
02-15-2005 08:18 PM
Lord of the hell
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that kind of freaking people fucks the good name of the games
02-15-2005 08:28 PM
SwitchBlade
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OMG why cant ppl get over it and stop blaming GTA for peoples fuck ups *sigh
02-15-2005 11:05 PM
Big T
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Yep thats good blame GTA for everything! Insane!
02-16-2005 03:33 PM
RCagent
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Run over people? Thats not what GTA has taught me! If some idiots throw snowballs at me, I get out of my car and I Judo Chop their asses like C.J
02-16-2005 05:05 PM
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Atleast he will probably be going to prison where he will be raped by killers. Haha!
02-16-2005 10:39 PM
ReddyFire
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Atleast he will probably be going to prison where he will be raped by killers. HA HA

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02-16-2005 10:41 PM
Asif
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thanks to our creator that those kids werent killed at last.
02-17-2005 12:24 AM
Xeroer
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More publicity for Mr. Thompson.
This news post has the most comments by far -- you guys are just giving him what he wants.
02-18-2005 07:30 AM
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he got his attention
02-18-2005 12:01 PM
Johnny C
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Its attention, but 100% negative

This Jack Thompson guy sucks
02-20-2005 11:42 PM
 

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