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New Zealand version of GTA IV also cut

Grand Theft Auto IV - General News | @ 09:25 AM MDT | By ash_735
New Zealand gaming website Gameplanet recently confirmed that the copies of Grand Theft Auto IV in New Zealand will be the same ones that are being sold in Australia, meaning the New Zealand copies will also be the edited version. This means both Australian AND New Zealand gamers will now have to Import from Europe if they hope to play the uncut version of Grand Theft Auto IV.
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miroku
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Ouch.

Well if they got a PS3, you can always order from the US, and have it shipped.
04-15-2008 09:42 AM
Iron Lotus
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i thought that australia is getting the uncensored version i read it couple of days ago
04-15-2008 09:44 AM
Jimmy_86
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One word: Lame.

I've never known this to happen before, why with GTA IV. WHY?

/over reaction
04-15-2008 10:22 AM
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Well hopefully when Hillary Clinton gets elected here in the US we can get censorship boots kicking in our teeth too! Why should Australia and New Zealand get all the fun. :P
04-15-2008 10:53 AM
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i know its nothig big but i wanna know what they edited out from both versions... why does it have to be such a secret unless it has something to do with the plot...
04-15-2008 11:03 AM
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This is absolute BS. Screw Take-Two! We HAVE an R:18 rating, Grand Theft Auto IV was ALREADY given the standard R:18 rating but now for some reason we're getting Australias crappy censored version! WTF?!
04-15-2008 02:14 PM
wheresthebog
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yea fuk that bullshit, i just gave them a nice email, im sooo fuked off!

'first off, thanks so much for making gta 4 stock from australia come to new zeland so we get a censored verison!!! not! what were u thinking!? making that decision u surely knew you were going to get hate mail like this! we have nothing to do with their rating system. this news makes me wonder if i even want to game anymore, i dont want shit cut from a game that im fully paying for just because of shipment from australia, im fuking paying full money for this game and expect it how i want it (as in r18 version because new zealand law lets us hav uncut games!) and what is being cut? i would like to know but u guys are just sitting bak laughing while we play the cut version, i dont care if you think its still a good game ra ra ra, i just want what i ordered, and that my friend was gta 4 uncut!

your number one fan (yea right) Aaron'
04-15-2008 05:25 PM
RyanGSX
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Hey Aaron man good job on the hate mail! lol

But I don't think we're getting an edited version. All is explained in my post on the xbox forums: http://forums.xbox.com/19718261/ShowPost.aspx
04-15-2008 05:37 PM
wheresthebog
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thank you tht man, yea im hopinwe get the r18 version, cause i would esoo pissed off
04-15-2008 05:58 PM
Jimmy_86
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Good point RyanGSX, I guess there's hope yet.
04-15-2008 06:30 PM
RyanGSX
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I'm sorry guys, we are indeed getting a censored version. If you click my link someone gave me evidence that the version submitted to NZ's OFLC in February was infact Aussies censored version. So we can all thank Rockstar/Take-Two for notifying us 2 weeks before the release date. I'm disapointed. We have EVERY right to the R18 version but Rockstar or whoever can't be f'd to send stock to New Zealand. "Just throw some of those shitty censored copies over the tasman, that should keep them happy" F*** you Rockstar and F*** you Take-Two. I'm pissed off, this shouldn't be happening. At least Australia have a valid reason, so far it hasn't even been fully explained why we're getting it censored. Screw this I'm ordering from overseas...
04-16-2008 12:59 AM
dyrynal
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dude, why is australia so soft when it comes to games, can anyone tell me what theyre editing out anyways
04-16-2008 01:54 AM
RyanGSX
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I don't know, their rating system is screwed so they are always banning games because it doesn't meet their highest rating which is an R15 (it should be R18 like everywhere else). This thread is about the fact that my country, New Zealand, are getting the censored version for no reason. We have an R18 rating and it was given that. Most people think it's simply because Take-Two can't be bothered sending stock directly to NZ (ususally we get our games sent from Australia). So surely you can understand how hacked off New Zealand gamers are. We're getting a censored version because of lazyness. Nobody knows whats getting cut but I don't care, I'm revoking my pre-order from EB Games and importing it from overseas.
04-16-2008 02:21 AM
wheresthebog
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fukin hell! we stood do something about this RyanGSX
04-16-2008 03:39 AM
cox
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What the sh*t is this fu*k.

We've never received the edited, or "gay" version (as it's commonly known) before.*
And neither do we need it. According to recent reports we have an almost identical homicide rate to Canada. (Canada!) And 11% more sexual offences (excluding assault)!!

Not to mention all the toddlers we manage to kill...

No, we don't need some sissy circu*mcised edition. So what is it? Does Take two think some how that we're no longer large enough to warrant sending us our own copies, -despite the special edition (now apparently made not so special) Being already freaking sold out!- Leaving us to piggy-back off the great lumbering "Bruce" that is Australia!

I'm just gonna come right out and say it:

Fu*k Take Two. Fu*k their distributions manager. And fu*k Australia's poncy ratings system.

I paid $150-freaking-NZD to preorder the special edition over a year ago! But I tossed my money to the dogs with joy, knowing that soon enough I'd receive a majestic giant of a game. But now... what? The butchered carcass of a once noble beast, castrated and left to be slowly devowered by rabid koala's! Proud buttocks torn asunder by a barbecue, gently grilling a suitcase full of shrimp, and money...

I hope you're fu*king happy, Take Two.






*This statement should not be taken with offence.

[ post edited 04-16-2008 04:52 AM by cox ]
04-16-2008 04:48 AM
RyanGSX
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I feel your anger man. AT LEAST with Australia, there was a valid reason. There rating system is screwed. But there is NO F**KING reason for us to get Australias kiddie version. No reason at all. Soon enough my fellow kiwis we'll hear the official word from Take-Two (so far it's just internet jibba jabba). And if the reason so happens to be "Oh we thought it would be more conviniant for us as a distributor to send Australias stock to NZ" then I don't know if I could go through with purchasing it. How BIG is this game? How much $$$ are both R* and TT going to rake in? If it does happen to be the whole conviniance thing then the sole reason of that would be to save money. To save money by not bothering to export copies from the UK/EU to NZ.

Agreed cox, F*CK YOU ROCKSTAR AND F*CK YOU TAKE-TWO

F*cking think they can get away with giving us Australias diseased copies? F off this is the time to get the song by Rage Against The Machine in: Killing In The Names Of....
04-16-2008 05:10 AM
Jimmy_86
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That's the thing, where's anything truly official on this?

The idea that we get the cut version fobbed off on us because of geographical location completely bites.

Check out this thread, I posted in there a couple of thoughts like why did our rating come through at the same time as Germany, UK & US when Australia's was two months earlier. Odd if the NZ OFLC really did see the cut version, why did it get vetted by Australia first.

I didn't think this would be what they meant when they said "Things will be different".

[ post edited 04-16-2008 06:54 AM by Jimmy_86 ]
04-16-2008 06:52 AM
getalife226
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This sucks a#$ thanks alot australia maybe we should change suppliers.
04-16-2008 04:11 PM
wheresthebog
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here we go guys, hate mail goes to here! mouthoff@rockstargames.com

i did some hate mail and they said foward it to that address, so sounds good to me!
04-16-2008 06:03 PM
wheresthebog
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do you know how many people in new zealand you have pissed off with sending us the censored version from australia even know we have a rating system to be able to get uncut games. as a loyal customer that has bought a ps3, 32" lcd tv and home sound system just for the purpose of gta4 (over NZ$2500. wanting the full experience but now i cant with this cut version) i would like to know what has been cut and believe us in new zealand have a right to know, i know alot of people that have canceled their orders and this would help so they can order it again. to find out just weeks before release that we are getting a censored version is really appalling. I (and the rest of nz gamers) would like to see an uncut version released in new zealand as we have been told till now that thats what we will be recieving.



yourt number one fab (yea bullshit) Aaron
04-16-2008 06:13 PM
RyanGSX
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Well said Aaron. I'm in a bit of a kerfuffle myself.

I have got 3 options:

1. Wing it. Keep my pre-order from EB Games and hope that the edits were just cut scenes/prostitutes (and NOT the ability to get drunk/drink & drive mini-game. Thats one feature that really excites me among others). Risky, but of course very convineant. I'm in Auckland so of course my nearest EB is only a couple minuets down the road.

2. Order the standard edition, which is 40 quid ($100 NZD) from one of the many UK gaming websites (UK use PAL region aswell). However, I have searched the net and every site notes that the standard edition has been fully booked out, you can still pre-order it but you will have to wait a week for them to get more in. And then more time for them to send it. Cheap but lengthy, unfortunatly I'm not a patient guy. I've waited long enough for Gta 4.

3. Order the special edition, which is 70 quid ($177 NZD! *chokes* ). BUT, all the UK sites I've seen still have many special edition pre-orders to fill. Which means I'll get it on release day (don't know about time zones, could be our tuesday or the UKs tuesday which will be our wensday). But it doesn't matter. This option is costly, but quick.

Help me out here guys, I'm leaning towards option 3...
04-16-2008 10:49 PM
Jimmy_86
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One option to get a standard edition from the UK which will be sent out on release (UK Tuesday of course) would be to try ebay.
04-17-2008 04:18 AM
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well im keeping my special edition order, cause i hav looked around and have read that it is just one vid about niko with a pistol forcing it into someones privates, so sweet as cause if i really wanted to i have the option of veiwing it on youtube. if worst comes to worst i will just order one from overseas aswell. cant remember if the link has been provided with wot has been edited out (if true, i trust it tho cause i was reading the lastest review and it said something about some old friend having sex with him) heres the link- http://kotaku.com/380238/ausnz-gtaiv-cut-due-to-weapon-being-inserted-into-a-private-area
04-17-2008 05:23 AM
RyanGSX
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Yeah Ive seen that, wouldn't be so sure aye. If it was something soooo little, like this cutscene, then why wouldn't they have just told us in the first place! I'm SURE none of us would get upset by just having some scene taken out where a gun is stuck up a blokes a**....

[ post edited 04-17-2008 05:43 AM by RyanGSX ]
04-17-2008 05:39 AM
Jimmy_86
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That cut scene is still a rumour right now and hopefully it is something minor like that, but to me, the point is not what's cut but the fact that Rockstar/Take-Two decided to give us the cut version when they didn't have to. Not to mention they didn't tell us straight up.
04-17-2008 05:58 AM
wheresthebog
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yea i kno its anoying as, but im sure its something minimal, they said its nothing major and that it doesnt effect gameplay. so we will just have to wait and see, even if its taking out prostitutes i will be anoyed cause i use to always hav fun doing them then bashing them for my money bak, its was great.
04-17-2008 06:05 AM
RyanGSX
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Here's the OFLC report: http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2008/04/guess_what_we_didnt_find_in_the_oflc_board_report_for_gta_iv.html

Prostitutes got through so I dont know what to think right now...
04-17-2008 06:09 AM
wheresthebog
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awesome that wiked! wonder wots cut then? really weird
04-17-2008 06:20 AM
wheresthebog
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and please dont let it be getting drunk and being able to drive while drunk
04-17-2008 06:26 AM
RyanGSX
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Yep, that's what I'm really worried about, the drinking thing....
04-17-2008 06:40 AM
Jimmy_86
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I wouldn't worry about the drinking thing, it sounds like Niko going out for a drink with his friends is part of the game play experience and Rockstar did say about Australia's cut version that the changes "are not significant and we do not believe they take away from the level of scope and detail that make GTA IV such an incredible experience."

If only we'd get a real announcement or something. It adds insult to injury that we're still flying on info from gameplanet and the word of some guy who contacted the NZ OFLC.
04-17-2008 07:12 AM
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yea aparetly someone over at gameplanet is getting told today, and i have work all day, so if any details gets released on wots cut then could someone pretty please txt me wot has beenm cut - 0212350008. it would be much apreciated, thanks in advanced if someone does lol

ok an anoucment after 12

http://www.gpforums.co.nz/showthread.php?s=46fbbc1427f0d68f88c3f3de4e61df78&threadid=310258&perpage=25&pagenumber=8

[ post edited 04-17-2008 04:21 PM by wheresthebog ]
04-17-2008 04:04 PM
Jimmy_86
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Thanks for that link, hopefully what the gameplanet staff member said about hearing from Take-Two in the next day or so is true.
04-17-2008 07:51 PM
RyanGSX
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What's this about an announcement after 12pm? It's 3pm now....
04-17-2008 08:58 PM
wheresthebog
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thats ghey, he said he hasnt got anything yet, but thats understanable since they under heaps of persure and stuff
04-18-2008 04:27 AM
Jimmy_86
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It seems that Jon Valjean guy is waiting to hear from "2K NZ" whom I assume are the NZ offices of 2K Games which is of course under Take-Two. Probably not until Monday or later.

Whilst it's clear we're stuck with the cut version being unnecessarily sold here, it seems that we may get some sort of official announcement, which would be a nice courtesy.
04-18-2008 05:09 AM
RyanGSX
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...And maybe they could tell us exactly what was taken out for god sake.
04-18-2008 05:41 PM
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What the F***!

me and my brother brought a f***ing PS3 for GTA IV

$150 f***ing GTA Special Edition. F*** U Take_2

and **** u u mother ****ing dog ****ing **** eating OFLC of AU
04-19-2008 05:31 PM
RyanGSX
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Easy there tiger, we're all VERY pissed off, I feel you man.

But I'm pretty certain It's just one cutscene where a gun is shoved up a criminals a**. Plus PS3 games are region free, you could easily just import if from anywhere overseas if you wanted to.
04-19-2008 09:33 PM
wheresthebog
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u think u spend heaps, i bought a ps3, 32'' lcd tv and speakers for just gta 4 lol, but im basicaly over it, cause the reports show no gameplay is cut so that keeps me happy and im so such its just that scene, we still get the sepical edition tho aye?
04-20-2008 06:23 AM
RyanGSX
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Does anyone know if there has been any updates? Any announcements by Rockstar yet? Any new articles about it? I'm getting a bit fed up, is ANYONE out there persuing an answer as to why where getting an edited version or what has been cut???
04-20-2008 09:13 PM
wheresthebog
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i have emailed them heaps last week and still no reponse, theres nothing about it, its sooo anoying!
04-20-2008 09:38 PM
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Jon Valjean, a guy at GP forums was waiting to hear back from 2K NZ. I got the impression he's staff at the forums.

Otherwise there's nothing new that I could find so far.

[ post edited 04-21-2008 06:32 AM by Jimmy_86 ]
04-20-2008 10:46 PM
RyanGSX
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That's good to know. Hopefully we get some straight answers instead of all this bullsh*t "it's only one cutscene" "no that statement is untrue" we're recieving from Rockstar/TT. If you guys hear anything new be sure to post it here, I'll do the same ;)

[ post edited 04-20-2008 11:50 PM by RyanGSX ]
04-20-2008 11:34 PM
Jimmy_86
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Seems Jon is still waiting...

GTA IV has arrived in NZ, at least it's something positive. :P

Also, the site I ordered from in the UK which originally said they couldn't guarantee sending out my copy on release date because their pre orders were filled (as was the case with many UK online retailers) just emailed me today saying it probably will be sent out on release date, which is nice. :)
04-22-2008 05:03 AM
RyanGSX
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For some reason I can't post anything so I'll just edit this in:

Thanks for that,

But I thought I'd let everyone know that, after MUCH thought, going back and forth with decisions, I have finally come to the conclusion to just keep my pre-order from EB.

I am certain it's just the one or two cutscenes that were edited. I seriously doubt it would be gameplay because if it was,that would affect multiplayer and R* would have to create a whole different server for kiwis/ozzies, and that would simply not happen.

Even Gtagaming says so: "the version which is sold in Australia features a minor piece of censorship to some of the in-game cutscenes"

I just cannot bear to wait ANOTHER 7-10 days for this game (average shipping time on most sites). I couldn't stand sitting at home, knowing that this God-like game is in stores and being played by my mates, while I'm waiting for a version which features a guy getting sodomized. If I do find out what was removed, and it turns out to be more than I bargained for, I'll just sell it on ye ol' Trademe, and import a copy. So yeah, bring on Tuesday!

[ post edited 04-22-2008 08:20 PM by RyanGSX ]
04-22-2008 06:07 AM
Jimmy_86
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You sure can. :P

I ordered from http://www.gameplay.co.uk because after trying about three other sites they were the only one I found that would ship video games overseas.

EDIT: That's sounds like a plan Ryan. :) Hopefully we will find out shortly after release what the difference actually is.

[ post edited 04-23-2008 04:02 AM by Jimmy_86 ]
04-22-2008 08:12 AM
 

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