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Old 06-16-2007   #16
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First off, Blu-Ray is a joint venture. http://www.blu-raydisc.com/ And all games on the PS3 use blu-ray.

HDDVD isn't used for games.
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Thank you ash for clearing that up, everytime I post something like that someone seems to want to start a war. Atleast I know there's some grownups here. hehe I can't see the blu-ray turning out to winning though, I did my research and spoke with some friends about it that don't own either xbox or ps3, but i believe that the winner of HD-DVD vs Blu-ray will HEAVILY depend on the console "wars" and how Microsoft added the HD-DVD drive as an accessory, made the 360 much more cheaper. Surprised that Sony didn't do that also, then we would have had a really good competition. And I'm not a fanboy either, I'm just going to stick with money grabbin Billy (Microsoft) for now though haha.

And no, HDDVD isn't used for games, and I can't see that the HD-DVD will EVER be used for gaming with this generation of consoles.
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Old 06-16-2007   #18
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this pretty much sucks. i am for a ps3 anyway though. resident evil 5 is coming and its still the cheapest way to get your hands ona blue ray player.

if sony dropped the price of the ps3 it would win the HD war also
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Old 06-16-2007   #19
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That's the reason why its so expensive. If you wanted to watch high def movies on a console its 399.99 for the Core 360. + 199.99 = 599.98. The PS3, which includes the player is 699.99 (all Canadian prices mind you)

So the HD-DVD player is a cheaper player to begin with, atleast around here, and the xbox 360 is cheaper, and you can get the HD add-on now too so it increases Xbox 360 sales(for those who want a console + HD movie player and can afford to purchase the console, then buy the HD-DVD player afterwards) aswell as HDDVD player sales, since its considered an HD-DVD player on the market. Honestly I couldn't tell you who will win each war, but it looks like at this point in time, and in eastern canada, that HD-DVD & Xbox 360's are winning since the demand for them arn't quite high. The Wii on the other hand... well thats another story, and shouldn't be in this thread

Edit: RE5 wont be on the Wii will it? Since its only about as powerful as the original xbox.....or atleast so I'm told.
Edit#2: Ah. RE5 is on the 360 too as stated in Wikipedia. (odd place to find it though, but it works.)
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No, it says the content itself is exclusive to Xbox 360, not the ability to download it.
So now PS3 users are left in the dark? There will be ways to get the exclusive content on PS3, legal or illegal

Exclusive Content is a big deal and its a shitty decision to leave a whole global group of users with nothing
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So the HD-DVD player is a cheaper player to begin with, atleast around here, and the xbox 360 is cheaper, and you can get the HD add-on now too so it increases Xbox 360 sales(for those who want a console + HD movie player and can afford to purchase the console, then buy the HD-DVD player afterwards) aswell as HDDVD player sales, since its considered an HD-DVD player on the market. Honestly I couldn't tell you who will win each war, but it looks like at this point in time, and in eastern canada, that HD-DVD & Xbox 360's are winning since the demand for them arn't quite high. The Wii on the other hand... well thats another story, and shouldn't be in this thread
Well in Europe and Japan, Blu-Ray is winning by 3 to 1, and that DOESN'T include the PS3 sales where as the HD-DVD sales DO, plus with the studios backing, My personal choice would be Blu-Ray because of the films choices.

Edit: just to say, Console wise, the PS3 isn't doing anywhere near as well as the 360 and Wii, but formwat wise, Blu-Ray is definetly in the lead, just making that clear so I don't sound like a person trying to start a Rally for Blu-Ray

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Hey, everyone knows the market can shift and such, and maybe the executive of sony will be drunk one night and decided to cut the price by 100 bucks, thus changing the shape COMPLETELY of the console wars, and increasing Blu-ray DVD sales dramatically. Who knows.... but Microsoft is an extremely big company, and the last thing they need is money going to Sony, so you never know what billy can do.

Edit: Oh! There are also companies who release titles on both blu-ray and HD-DVD. In terms of Universal, I think they do, since they have the Fast and The Furious all on HD-DVD, and I have a bunch of universal pictures HD-DVD's. Same with Warner Brothers, I've got like 6 WB HD-DVD movies, which seems weird if they're part of a format war. Doesn't seem to make much sense to me that they'd release something on HD-DVD.
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Hey, everyone knows the market can shift and such, and maybe the executive of sony will be drunk one night and decided to cut the price by 100 bucks, thus changing the shape COMPLETELY of the console wars, and increasing Blu-ray DVD sales dramatically. Who knows.... but Microsoft is an extremely big company, and the last thing they need is money going to Sony, so you never know what billy can do.
I'm convinced you're out to start a war here, All of them are Big companies! Sony have already stated they are considering a price cut, Nintendo is just laughing at their own success (with good reason) and Microsoft are happy with the way things are, they just need to sort out that little Red Ring of Death problem.
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i'm in no way trying to start a war, but I'm just saying anything can happen. and Yes they are all big companies, and I totally agree with that. But what I'm getting at is... well just type "Richest person in america" in google and see what you can find, and that person would be bill gates. You can't avoid that, and it is known that Microsoft will try to swing the competition around if its getting a little too hot. Meaning if his 360 sales are going down the tubes due to a format war, then he'll be doing something about it (or else will try to) PS3 and 360's have both got their up's and down's and if I had alot of money I'd probably buy both, but I'm just saying that the console wars and format war is way too unstable to pick a definite 'winner' now. If Microsoft see's an opportunity to make money by using money, then 90% sure they'd jump on it, and it's happened before. Example: Buying the company Rare.

Lets get this back on topic here, who cares who's a big company and what companies can do. As for exclusive content, I was surprised that it is only exclusive for only the 360, but if you read the arcticle, it says a company representative says its exclusive for the 360, so technically it isn't really confirmed exclusive only to the 360 from what I read.

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"Talk of an exclusive deal began following the release of Take-Two's Q2 financial report on Tuesday. The report stated that the episodic content would be released on 360 during the 2008 fiscal year - with no mention of PlayStation 3."
Just because there's no mention of PS3 episodic content doesn't mean it's not going to be there, it could just not have been decided yet or not.

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"Now a company representative has told GI.biz, "The Grand Theft Auto IV episodic content is exclusive to Xbox 360."

Just because a company rep says it will, doesn't mean it will. Once its published, and confirmed by Rock*, I wouldn't say there's no hope for the PS3 to have exclusive content. I'd just put it down as a rumour for now.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Playstation.

But PS3 fucked sony up. Fuck a PS3.
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Blu-Ray actually has much more support from the major companies, somebody had a list, I don't know who. This argument is truly pointless though, just because the "exclusive" content is exclusive it honestly doesn't mean shit anymore. Blazer as you stated earlier, III, VC and SA were all exclusive to the PS2 and LCS and VCS were for the PSP, however, look what happened to that. Just because a Take-Two official says it, doesn't make it so, they've gone back on their word before.
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But PS3 fucked sony up. Fuck a PS3.
If Sony did a price drop before christmas and all this kinda critisicm will be gawwwwn.
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Ouch. But I do like Nick's idea. The 360 owners will have to download the exclusive content, and the PS3 owners will have it from the start. I don't think it's going to happen, but I want it to

I'm not too flustered about this. This is early news for something coming out after the games release, and Rockstar might end up supporting the PS3 aswell.
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I'm not too flustered about this. This is early news for something coming out after the games release, and Rockstar might end up supporting the PS3 aswell.
God I hope so.

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Ouch. But I do like Nick's idea. The 360 owners will have to download the exclusive content, and the PS3 owners will have it from the start. I don't think it's going to happen, but I want it to
This might happen =D they did the same thing with Oblivion, although it came out later than the 360 version.
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As of Tuesday the count is 223 HD DVD movies and 254 Blu-ray movies. I think that's just counting major studio releases though. I know that the porn industry supports HD DVD but I'm not sure if those "movies" are factored into the total.

Anyone know which came out first and how much sooner? I'm pretty sure Blu-Ray was first right?

P.S. I think the term "Exclusive Content" should pretty much clear up any confusion. If it was on both consoles it wouldn't be exclusive anymore.
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