Old 08-10-2007   #796
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Well like... ugh... my friend Mallory called me and told me I should talk to her... so she obviously knows something, and it can't be all that great...

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Shawn Pivotto: ya know
Shawn Pivotto: i was going to call and ask if i could come up there to give you your sweatshirt back and talk
Shawn Pivotto: but jsut tell me
Shawn Pivotto: and ill bring it someday
Rainbows304: what?
Shawn Pivotto: tell me what's going on
Rainbows304: okay.
Rainbows304: u know how nick and i have been hanging out a lot? well, i kinda cheated on you.
Rainbows304: im so sorry
Shawn Pivotto: yeah i figured
Rainbows304: im really sorry
Shawn Pivotto: yeah
Shawn Pivotto: whatever
Shawn Pivotto: waht did i do
Rainbows304: nothing. shit happens, you know?
Rainbows304: i didnt mean to make u mad
Shawn Pivotto: not really, thatsj sut an excuse people give when they dont know waht to say
Shawn Pivotto: i obiously did something wrong
Rainbows304: no u didnt
Shawn Pivotto: i obviously cantm ake you happyu
Shawn Pivotto: or give you what you want
Rainbows304: no thats not it
Rainbows304: look i didnt mean for this to happen. it just.. did
Shawn Pivotto: it has to be, if your going and cheating on me.. theres gotta be something im not doing reight or giving you what you want cause otherwise this wouldnt have happened
Rainbows304: no. thats not always how it goes
Shawn Pivotto: waht did you do
Rainbows304: why
Rainbows304: does it matter
Shawn Pivotto: trust me, it does
Shawn Pivotto: a kiss is more forgivable than say... sex..
Rainbows304: i didnt have sex with him
Shawn Pivotto: what did you do
Rainbows304: look all you need to know is that what ever happened happened and its over. im sorry
Rainbows304: so just drop it
Rainbows304: please
Shawn Pivotto: oooooooh
Shawn Pivotto: ya know, i can udnerstand.. your young and shit..
Shawn Pivotto: but youll grow up to find out its not that easy
Rainbows304: haha. im not young. im about the same age as everyone else.
Shawn Pivotto: or how about this, it is that easy, if your the one doing it
Rainbows304: i know how it is
Shawn Pivotto: or if your the one who doesnt care
Rainbows304: i do care! omg. no u know what i really dont want to talk about this
Shawn Pivotto: for you its "im sorry i did shit with nick and our realtionship si over get over it" fro me its completley different
Rainbows304: i didnt mean it that way
Shawn Pivotto: well now what happens
Shawn Pivotto: your going to say itso ver between us and go back to nick?
Shawn Pivotto: i mean while im sounding like an ass
Shawn Pivotto: im not trying to
Rainbows304: what happens between me and nick has nothing to do with you
Rainbows304: so why ask
Shawn Pivotto: ya know
Shawn Pivotto: i'm not even gonna try
Shawn Pivotto: this right here might hurt, and trust me.. it does
Shawn Pivotto: but i eman.. if you dont want to talk... then im just wasting my breath
Shawn Pivotto: i told you, you would be worth every second of my time, you would never be a waste
Shawn Pivotto: and you still arent
Shawn Pivotto: dont start
Rainbows304: just face it. i am a waste of ur time. i am to everyone.
Shawn Pivotto: and i wasnt asking what about you and nick, i said are we over and now your just going to go back to him
Shawn Pivotto: lemme repgrapse that
Shawn Pivotto: rephrase*
Shawn Pivotto: i didn't ask about you and nick, i was asking "are we over now, and are you going to go back to nick"
Rainbows304: yeah. i guess i am
Shawn Pivotto: jesus fucking christ
Shawn Pivotto: and i wanted to know what happened between you and him because it does matter and it is my business, while it may not seem like it, it is
Shawn Pivotto: it doest seem liek it to you
Shawn Pivotto: cause you dont care as much as i do
Shawn Pivotto: thats not saying you dony care
Shawn Pivotto: but i will tell you this, even after this... you will be the only girl i have ever loved
Shawn Pivotto: i have told many girls ive loved them
Shawn Pivotto: just to say it
Rainbows304: u didnt love me. and u know it
Shawn Pivotto: ive never told you it, cause i didnt want to scare you
Shawn Pivotto: but i wanted to scream it in your face
Shawn Pivotto: but i knew you wouldnt be able to handle it
Rainbows304: handle it? i wouldnt believe it
Shawn Pivotto: or you would.. but you wouldn't believe it to its full extent
Shawn Pivotto: but i guess your better off without me
Shawn Pivotto: im one of the most pthaetic guys if you knewm ore about me
Rainbows304: no. i dont even know what love is. i dint think u do either. strong liking is a different thing.
Shawn Pivotto: mmm
Shawn Pivotto: and thats why i didnt say it
Rainbows304: because its not true
Shawn Pivotto: i feel in love with you, i didnt love you
Shawn Pivotto: i may not know what it is, but im surei was damn close
Rainbows304: did u trust me?
Shawn Pivotto: fuck yeah
Shawn Pivotto: i didnt trust anyone else, cause your so fucking precious
Shawn Pivotto: and its like
Shawn Pivotto: i've got a question
Rainbows304: yeah
Shawn Pivotto: everything i've told you so far, sunday night and beyond
Shawn Pivotto: about how i feel about you
Shawn Pivotto: did you believe any of it, or did you jsut want to
Shawn Pivotto: or did you just pretend to
Rainbows304: i dont know. i sorta believed it at first. but then all this shit started happening, like how everybody told me u just wanted to have sex with me. and i didnt know what to believe
Shawn Pivotto: alright
Shawn Pivotto: thats all i needed to hear
Shawn Pivotto: now
Shawn Pivotto: lets just make things easier
Shawn Pivotto: you cheated on me, and i forgive you cause im easy to forgive, and only cause i dont want to lose you
Shawn Pivotto: i know im going to, but i still will try
Shawn Pivotto: but everything is over now
Shawn Pivotto: so now, let's just stop
Shawn Pivotto: drop everything
Shawn Pivotto: pretend like we never met
Shawn Pivotto: and sometime
Shawn Pivotto: we'll se each other
Shawn Pivotto: and we can start our friendship
Shawn Pivotto: forget each others names, and jsut walk away
Rainbows304: how can u do that to smeone u claimed to love though
Rainbows304: we both know we're going to think of eachother.
Shawn Pivotto: because, if they dont see it... and if they won't believe it, then whats the point
Rainbows304: its not lie we can just earase our names
Rainbows304: someone's going to mention our name to eachother and everything comes back, then we start thinking, then what
Shawn Pivotto: when all the thinking goes through your head
Shawn Pivotto: '
Shawn Pivotto: you jsut say "who's shawn?"
Shawn Pivotto: and paly off like we'ven ever met
Rainbows304: i dont think its that easy
Shawn Pivotto: who ever said it was going to be?
Rainbows304: okay well if thats how U want it to be, im fine with it.
Shawn Pivotto: i don't want it to be, but that's the easy way
Shawn Pivotto: easiest*
Rainbows304: the easy way is to forget what happened and maybe start over
Shawn Pivotto: you dont want to
Rainbows304: but i dnt think u want to do that
Shawn Pivotto: i was offering that
Rainbows304: how do u know?
Rainbows304: i do what to be ur friend
Shawn Pivotto: cause you were the one who said its over
Rainbows304: and stuff
Shawn Pivotto: think about it
Shawn Pivotto: if you were the one who screwed up, and you said it's over... and didnt' try to see if things could be worked out and keep the relationship going, then why would you want to start over?
Shawn Pivotto: im saying you cheated on me, and said that it was over
Shawn Pivotto: you didnt try to mend the relationship back together, you just said its over
Shawn Pivotto: im sittin here, arms wide open, and i always will be
Rainbows304: i didnt mean to say its over like we can never see or talk to eachother.
Shawn Pivotto: i never said you did
Rainbows304: thats how ur making it sound
Shawn Pivotto: i think you want things to work out differently than i do
Rainbows304: what do u mean
Shawn Pivotto: i want things to work out for the best, where me and you are still together
Shawn Pivotto: you want things to work out in where we are just friends
Rainbows304: see i want things to work out, but im afraid that if we are still together than somthings gonna happen again. and i dont want to hurt you
Shawn Pivotto: i don't think you do though
Shawn Pivotto: why would you have time to hangout with nick, but not me? i would do anything to spend time with you, and yet you hangout with nick
Shawn Pivotto: and i mean... hanging out wit your friends is fine
Shawn Pivotto: i realyl could care less, ya know.. as long as your happy
Rainbows304: yeah i know.
Rainbows304: i just. i dont know
Shawn Pivotto: i can understand if your busy with life shit, but then its like... you make time for this other guy, and not me... who would do everything in his power to come see you, evne just for 5 minutes
Rainbows304: i know that doesnt make sense
Rainbows304: what do u want me to say shawn
Rainbows304: that im sorry and i still want to be with you? i dont think thats gonna work
Shawn Pivotto: cause its not true
Rainbows304: like i mean... i dont want to sound like a bitch
Rainbows304: i do like you shawn. but to tell you the truth, i really didnt feel that thing between us
Shawn Pivotto: you like me, but not enoguh for it to work out
Shawn Pivotto: only enough to maybe fool around
Shawn Pivotto: not enough for a real relationship
Shawn Pivotto: or enough for me to give you a night where i'd do anything to make you smile
Shawn Pivotto: i'd do anything to make you smile, but i guess i'm not that lucky
Rainbows304: i dont know what to say. like... i've never cheated on a guy before and i didnt mean for this to happen, but again, i dont want to sound like a bitch, but everyhting happens for a reason
Rainbows304: dont make it hard on urself
Shawn Pivotto: how am i not sposed to
Shawn Pivotto: the one girl that ive ever found to make me so happy, is telling me this is the end
Rainbows304: because we can make this work. we can be friends if u want, and we can both be happy. i just dont want to see you all upset and everything
Shawn Pivotto: you know
Shawn Pivotto: i'll never get over this
Shawn Pivotto: even when i think i am
Shawn Pivotto: i still wont be
Rainbows304: like i said we dont have to just drop everything.
Shawn Pivotto: theres still gonna be those nights where i lay in my bed and look over to see that felt heart laying on my dresser, and think of you
Shawn Pivotto: and us
Rainbows304: i really dont like seeing this happen.but i tik its for the better. and like i said, we can still be friends
Shawn Pivotto: yeah i can deal with that
Shawn Pivotto: evne though we'll never talk again
Rainbows304: who said that
Shawn Pivotto: thats what always happens
Rainbows304: not for me. i always talk to my ex's
Shawn Pivotto: judging from this...
Shawn Pivotto: nevermind
Shawn Pivotto: yeah
Shawn Pivotto: you can be my new best friend
Shawn Pivotto: well best friend i have to go eat and call kaitlyn
Shawn Pivotto: i'll call you sometime and give you your sweatshirt back
Rainbows304: alright
Rainbows304: thanks shawn

Merry Christmas. I'm going to go hangout with Tyler, see you guys later.
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Holy fucking shit man! LMFAO WOW, thats fucked up.. guess trusting her didnt work huh? but stay friends wit her.. even if she did fucking cheat on you, and felt like you were nothing in this world.. just deal with it man, nothing you can do now.. just be friends i guess..
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Dude, you're taking way too much shit from her. She cheated on you and it sounds like you're the one apologizing.
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Old 08-10-2007   #799
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It didn't hurt as much as I thought it would... but... it's going to when I'm laying in bed thinking of her in a few months.
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Hey I'm just going to come out and say it, the truth hurts sometimes, but I saw this coming a long time ago.

Pivotto here is what went wrong - plain and simple. You expected way too much from the beginning, almost obsessive, without first confirming that her feelings were at the same level. And you also took a lot of crap from her and pretty much acted like a pussy. If my girlfriend was hanging out with her ex and not me, and I knew about it, fuck no. That would have ended right there. Put the foot down.

I almost think she is not breaking up not "because she doesn't want to hurt you later," because that sounds like bullshit. She said she wouldn't know if she would cheat or not, it's either you decide to or won't, it's easy. So truthfully she had some things to clear up with her ex and pretty much wanted to stay with him. It probably didn't have much to do with you at all, sometimes you can't control things like that.
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Yeah I know I'm a pussy, I always have been. And yes... I was thinking almost exactly what you were thinking... I just didn't want to say it. I realized how much she didn't care, and I think that's why it doesn't hurt as much.
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I suppose if you really want to, then be friends with her..but I wouldn't. I know it's hard but try and forget about her, I wouldn't get back with her, because it wouldn't be the same relationship after they've cheated on you already..too much trust involved, that's why I don't bother with relationships.. anyway hope your ok man, I know it's a lot to take in, but hope your alright..
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Yeah.. right away I didn't want to be friends with her at all, I was like "dude fuck this, I don't care how much I care about her". I don't know though, at the cost of sounding like an asshole I think I'm just going to let her think that I dropped it and moved on that easily, and then when she comes running to me with a problem she has, or if she comes running back to me, I'll let her know exactly how it felt and that what she never believed was completely true. Maybe then she'll realize, but by then, it'll be too late for her.

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Shawn Pivotto: everything i've told you so far, sunday night and beyond
Shawn Pivotto: about how i feel about you
Shawn Pivotto: did you believe any of it, or did you jsut want to
Shawn Pivotto: or did you just pretend to
Rainbows304: i dont know. i sorta believed it at first. but then all this shit started happening, like how everybody told me u just wanted to have sex with me. and i didnt know what to believe

Even though I'm straight edge babe. You go ahead and believe stupid shit.
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If she believes rumors over you, there's a problem.
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Yeah, that's bullshit, if you believe other people over someone you supposedly trust, then how can you say there is trust?
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Yeah, it's a shame how relationships can break because of rumours, she shouldn't have believed crap like that, and just believed you.
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Pivotto, if she's gonna believe bullshit like that, or any girl.. your wasting your time bro.. gotta find the ONE that actually can trust you, cause if Becca thought you just wanted SEX, and you guys never fucked.. then wtf?

But its a shame it had to happen to you, cause your a good guy and all, and she just had to beleive it, and then she cheats on you? That is bullshit.
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Yeah whatever. It hurts and all, and of course I still care about her, but that's just fucking bullshit... so whatever. To be honest, I'm having a good time with my life right now kind of, went out last night with my friends Tyler, Jordan, Siara, Erica, and Hannah, and had a lot of fun, didn't even think about her. So you know.. I'll always miss her, but I'll get through this.
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Yeah, it's hard to get through a break up sometimes.. but if you didn't really think of her last night, then I guess things will be fine.. but you will miss her, cause she's always gonna be on your mind and in your heart.. It's gonna take a while to get her off your mind though..
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Ignoring someone and trying to forget them might work, or it might come back and be more trouble. It depends on if you can totally get away from someone and if you truly want to.

Another route to take is just clear it up and end on good terms, and then make less frequent contact over time. That usually is healthier for two reasons. For one, you stop worrying about it and you don't even feel bad anymore, because you're both accepting the change and things are fine. Secondly, you keep the door open for later down the road, if necessary, because you never know the future.

For example, I have some ex's I never spoke to again and I'm fine with it, one I didn't really like that much anyway. And then I know a couple girls, one we ended a little rough and didn't talk for like 3 years but now we talk on very good terms (she respects me a lot in fact). Another girl I really respect and admire, we talk a lot and have absolutely no hard feelings. So the moral is try to work it out and end as friends/good terms, if possible, because it usually ends better and saves you further grief. I mean once you realize you and her are not together, and there's plenty thousands of other girls, then it's all good.
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