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Old 04-17-2008   #91
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That's the problem. They've treated me as just a "fan" about this whole situation, jerking me around, and not a voice actor - a professional. Things will be different if I ever consider working with them again.
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Just got this paper in the mail. It's sort of depressing.

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Wait until you go to this event and see what they say for themselves first, you might not get off on the right foot if you go in with guns blazing, lol, keep your cool Casey, you never know what will happen.
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If you're too depressed to do it. I'm willing to replace you.
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You definitely should attend it, Casey. Probably there are more surprises awaiting for you.
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there are more surprises awaiting for you.
Or so they say. I still won't be able to play the game. At r*'s, or any time for that matter. Not like I'm doing it out of spite or anything, I just won't be able to.
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For all you know, the douche who never called you back doesn't even work at Rock* - or is on the way out.
He's still there... and not going anywhere anytime soon from what I know.
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If you're too depressed to do it. I'm willing to replace you.
Go for it. Actually, if I was allowed to, I'd have put this as part of the grand prize for the contest.
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One guy screwing up isn't a reason to be pissed off at the entire staff of Rockstar. Did you even try to contact them?
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I'm not pissed at everyone who works there, just the several people who set this up for me a year ago, then decided to give voice roles to the magazine editors instead, probably just so they could get good reviews.

And of course I tried contacting them. Several times.
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Yeah, i'd take it easy at first Case. See what they have to say, and if they don't bring it up just ask them about it.
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Of course. I won't run in there guns a blazin' or anything. I still have a little professional etiquette left for them.
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We've already discussed replacements for this event. One thing you come to realise about Rockstar is that there really is no plan with their PR. We've asked them for the odd thing and they've pretty much never given anything, yet we've seen other, much smaller websites receiving much more favourable treatment. This is a common conception among pretty much all of the gaming media - it's just completely weird the way they do things.

One thing I have most definitely noticed is that they will contact you when they REALLY want you to do things. They get super sensitive about things being revealed before time and they seem to think that it's our responsibility to bear the brunt of any leaks. Case in point: the map. When this was leaked they started sending emails out to every site with it hosted, hoping that they'd take it down. Of course, as a photograph of a physical object which is about to be in the hands of millions of people, it would be very difficult for them to actually challenge a site legally to get them to remove it. They contacted us directly when their first email didn't seem to make it through and it's always very brief and "this is what we want".

I think a lot of it boils down to the high staff turnover they have, especially in New York. The team working on GTA IV is very different to the one which worked on GTA San Andreas and the same can be said for the development team in Edinburgh. There is little to no opportunity to build a proper, professional relationship with them as the team changes so frequently. I also have a very strong suspicion that Rockstar doesn't trust most of the fansite webmasters, which may be why they've left it until all of the reviews will be published and the game is almost in stores before allowing them to visit.

I think this is also what might have happened here in the case of the voice work. It's a very big company and a lot of people are working independently on their own things, so it's very probable that things just get forgotten about or laid aside. I'm sure that if you go to this event all guns blazing and try to single out one person who you think is responsible, you won't get anywhere at all.

That said, I wish I was going and I wish Rockstar would respect the effort which I have placed into the promotion of their products a lot more. I don't think I'd be unreasonable to think that the work I have done over the past five or so years has convinced at least SOME people to buy the games, so I'll just continue to ponder exactly what the deal is with their mishmash PR department.

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Neil, remember that you live in Fife, and they want people to come to New York. It would just be to much effort on their part to get you there.
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Neil, remember that you live in Fife, and they want people to come to New York. It would just be to much effort on their part to get you there.
They have invited and are paying the expenses of a number of UK based webmasters.
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