Old 05-21-2013   #151
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Exactly.

I don't get why a lot of people moan about the price when they are willing to upgrade their expensive as shit smartphone every single year.
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Exactly.

I don't get why a lot of people moan about the price when they are willing to upgrade their expensive as shit smartphone every single year.
Well for starters, i cant be fucked buying a playstation. I would rather buy a high end pc simply for upgrading the hardware for better graphics and gaming experience, also for flexibility in the games (modding etc.).
If I want a PS4 id buy one, but i would rather spend the money on something more long term atleast until the price goes down.
The price isnt a problem for me, its the fact that I dont intend on forking out X amount of dollars on something that I cant upgrade in the future, but rather put in an extra couple of hundread for something that i can upgrade.... then eventually buying the console later down the track.

I went over my point twice in different ways, understand my point?

Also I dont pay for my Galaxy S3 upfront either, its split over a 12 month contract amongst my monthly bills and it costs less than a tank of petrol. I dont understand the difficulty in a yearly smartphone upgrade.

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Well for starters, i cant be fucked buying a playstation. I would rather buy a high end pc simply for upgrading the hardware for better graphics and gaming experience, also for flexibility in the games (modding etc.).
I been saying that for years its the main reason I stay on PC vs console

though since PS4 and Xbox One will be X86/X64, its a step in the right direction finally so maybe in the future consoles will be upgradeable as well.
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I am confused as to which thread to put posts in now, as the post I moved to the other thread has points valid for both threads. W/e I will just re-post it here too.

Actually fuck both of the new systems. I forgot all about backwards compatibility, and their lack of.

Same thing that fucked the newer PS3s over for me. ESPECIALLY since they started with it, there was NO goddamned excuse to do away with it. One of the only really cool things about PS3s is that they are region free among Blu-rays and PS3 games. Sadly, the old BC models aren't BC with imported PS1/2 games, though.

I can just rip those and play them on emulator, along with my other games anyway and look much better than the original hardware of either PS2/3could EVER make it.


Luckily my PS3 is an older model, and if anything happens to it that I can't fix somehow, I would never buy a new one. The only way I would EVER buy a newer one would be if the prices on them nosedived later on down the line after the new console release.

The newer system's lack of BC is a MUCH bigger deal, considering some could potentially have hundreds, if not thousands of dollars worth of games, in physical, or virtual form, that are pretty much useless when current gen systems either die or are no longer produced.

Like hell they would even implement BC even if they could, (and who the hell says they really can't), they wouldn't sell older systems if they did that, likely the reason Sony scrapped it with the PS3 when PS2s were still being produced, $100 a pop they were losing at the time per sell of PS3, ON TOP of the money they were losing just from the components of it. They would be losing 2-300 a fucking pop now, and that goes for both Sony and Microsoft this time around because Microsoft (OF ALL FUCKING PEOPLE) was actually fucking nice enough to keep that goddamn feature (albeit dodgy for certain titles) all this time with the 360.

If anything it is genius on their part not including it, even if they could, aside from fucking over millions upon millions of people that have tons of older PS2/3 games.

Too bad the Xbox One we get won't be the Dev one. The one we get will have microscopic tabs/windows from all the goddamn ads they will ejaculate all over the screen constantly all the time. I wonder if they will cram ads in between category/tab switches.

"Watch TV"
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"Go To movies"
>Ad about IE
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there was NO goddamned excuse to do away with it. ]
Price of the console.


Also, iirc, they will be available at some point through PSN.
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in the future consoles will be upgradeable as well.
congratulations, you just missed the point of having a console
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I been saying that for years its the main reason I stay on PC vs console

though since PS4 and Xbox One will be X86/X64, its a step in the right direction finally so maybe in the future consoles will be upgradeable as well.
The problem is you're missing out on A LOT of really great games that aren't on PC. You're aware that many PS3 exclusives like Uncharted 2 and Journey are some of the most critically acclaimed games ever made, right? Do you really care about the hardware more than the games? Yeah, having a nice PC is cool for third party games since you can crank up the settings and everything looks pretty. But doesn't make some of the amazing PS3 exclusives (same goes for Nintendo as well) any worse. In fact my favorite game of this generation isn't even on PC.

You know I love PC gaming as much as you do, but you're missing out on some really amazing experiences by limiting yourself to the PC in the same way that console-only gamers are limiting their experiences.

Upgrades on consoles probably isn't gonna happen for manufacturing reasons by the way. Consoles are not modular like a PC. In fact on PS4, the CPU and GPU are on a single chip, so there isn't even a graphics card. This single APU has direct access to 8 GBs of GDDR5 which is significantly faster and easier to develop for than even the regular PC architecture. If it were modular like a PC, they would lose a lot of the latency and bandwidth benefits that they've worked so hard to engineer.
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So wait, PS4 isn't backwards compatible?
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So wait, PS4 isn't backwards compatible?
Nope. Will have some cloud-based function implementing playable PS3/PS2 games later on though.
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The problem is you're missing out on A LOT of really great games that aren't on PC. You're aware that many PS3 exclusives like Uncharted 2 and Journey are some of the most critically acclaimed games ever made, right? Do you really care about the hardware more than the games? Yeah, having a nice PC is cool for third party games since you can crank up the settings and everything looks pretty. But doesn't make some of the amazing PS3 exclusives (same goes for Nintendo as well) any worse. In fact my favorite game of this generation isn't even on PC.

You know I love PC gaming as much as you do, but you're missing out on some really amazing experiences by limiting yourself to the PC in the same way that console-only gamers are limiting their experiences.

Upgrades on consoles probably isn't gonna happen for manufacturing reasons by the way. Consoles are not modular like a PC. In fact on PS4, the CPU and GPU are on a single chip, so there isn't even a graphics card. This single APU has direct access to 8 GBs of GDDR5 which is significantly faster and easier to develop for than even the regular PC architecture. If it were modular like a PC, they would lose a lot of the latency and bandwidth benefits that they've worked so hard to engineer.
Im not overly phased by exclusives like uncharted etc. I prefer GTA on PC, along with fps and many other types of games. I started playing games using a mouse and keyboard and i do enjoy that the most. Again, also the freedom and possibilities to get the most out of the games with modifications and graphics. I find PCs much more appealing.
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I like a mix of both.

And again it looks like a PlayStation/PC combo is the way for me next gen.
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has everyone seen the mockup by a redditor?

it looks pretty nice. wouldnt be disappointed if it looked like this:



i think the grill at the front will be at the back tho
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has everyone seen the mockup by a redditor?

it looks pretty nice. wouldnt be disappointed if it looked like this:

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i think the grill at the front will be at the back tho
I dont know, I think having the vents on the front could be a good idea, think about where most people's consoles are, in a cabinet or on a shelf with the back against a wall, where air circulation will be worse. Surely having a vent on the front means the system can stay cooler while running the fans slower, thus saving power and causing less noise.
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It looks like a backwards Sky+ HD Box with Vents, ...then again Xbox One looks like a Betamax Player, so I guess Sony would be the more modern design in that front.
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