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Old 04-28-2008   #1
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Xbox 360 Runs 720p - PS3 Runs 630p

From the guy who 'busted' Bungie on Halo 3 has yet again done some pixel counting on GTA IV.

This may or may not start a 'flamewar', just reporting some news.

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=136366
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...&postcount=513

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Old 04-28-2008   #2
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630p? never heard of it.
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630p? never heard of it.
It's 'cause you own a PS3.
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630p is 1120x630, it's then upscaled to 1080p (1920x1080). So I guess we can forgive 360 pop-ins for rendering at 1280x720.
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Or it's because the difference is negligible.
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But why? Wouldn't it have been wiser to scale the 360 version at 630p in order to maintain better performance, less pop-in, etc?

hah, I bet reviewers are feeling stupid they said the 630p version looks better (and is smoother with jaggies) than the 720p version.
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Because unfortunately Mircosoft and Sony share the common factor of dick-waving competitions and wanted something to gloat over. :/
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The pop-in issue is minimal. I suppose they just thought "why fix what's not really broken?"
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You really don't notice it.
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You really don't notice it.
I think one of the main points is not the look of the game, It's also a PS3 vs Xbox 360 Hardware statement.
Kotaku reported the 360 version had a smoother FPS. So The 360 runs at 720p with smoother FPS, kinda says something about the brute power, even though people keep going on about how the powerful the Playstation 3 is and the Cell processor will decent to earth with angel wings.
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And the total impact on the game franchise due to sub standard quality for children is ..?

As long as the gameplay rocks i couldn't care less about graphics unless it's really necessary to get the felling along with it.
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I think one of the main points is not the look of the game, It's also a PS3 vs Xbox 360 Hardware statement.
Kotaku reported the 360 version had a smoother FPS. So The 360 runs at 720p with smoother FPS, kinda says something about the brute power, even though people keep going on about how the powerful the Playstation 3 is and the Cell processor will decent to earth with angel wings.
Kotaku is a joke. They are a gossip site run by casual gamers. They have zero journalistic credibilty. They have been caught several times fabricating stories just to stir up controversy. (i.e. saying that Metallica and their lawyers were trying to postpone GH3 and RockBand because they had a change of heart about their songs being used.)

It's funny how everybody else who reviewed GTA4 has said that the PS3 version is better in framerate/AA/pop-in department. Kotaku is the only website that has said differently.

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630p must be native res, then the ps3 then upscale it to 720p then adds AA. In result, you get the cleaner picture.

Same crap with DVD upscalers...its just stretches, and adds AA.

But this also shows you that the textures are not even highres for 630p, so 720p is a slight waste of rendering.

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I think one of the main points is not the look of the game, It's also a PS3 vs Xbox 360 Hardware statement.
Kotaku reported the 360 version had a smoother FPS. So The 360 runs at 720p with smoother FPS, kinda says something about the brute power, even though people keep going on about how the powerful the Playstation 3 is and the Cell processor will decent to earth with angel wings.
It's not really considering that everyone else but Kotaku has discussed the slight graphical superiority of the PS3 version. What if 'kind of' says is that the developers went for 720p on the 360, 630p on the PS3, and ended up doing a better job at 630p.

Still, the difference between 630p and 720p is so minute that the human eye could not accurately distinguish between the two.

Red herring, guys, let's move on!
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I find it amazing how people can try to claim 360 superiority over a few pixels.
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