If this helps, the trainer i used is only inserted into the base directory. It doesn't have any ties into SHDN. It is just an asi and a config file in the root directory. So my question is YOUR code using SHDN didn't create statues. The trainer did and it is just an ASI in the root folder. If it isn't using SHDN then does that possibly mean the original statue problem may stem back all the way to scripthook itself?