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Suapsycho 12-17-2009 01:09 AM

GTA, peaked? PFF! No way!
What's this crap about GTA being past its prime? Sales of Episodes from LC probably didn't do well because most XBL users had downloaded the first episode already. Putting it on disc seems redundant. If they had released the disc for PS3 as well as putting the content on XBL, the sales figures might be significantly higher.

As for Chinatown Wars, PSP games tend to be small. CW isn't, but 40$ may have seemed too high for most.
Couple this with the fact that it's been released before on the DS... maybe people own both handhelds..?

Have none of these articles' authors thought of this?

zombienm 12-17-2009 01:17 AM

I brought this up in the comments on the news article, as well as a few other people.

I agree that it's rather dumb to say the series has peaked because two sets of DLC and a handheld game didn't sell as well as a title that's as massive as GTAIV. No way in hell will they do as good as GTAIV. I think that seems like pretty common sense. Does that mean the series has peaked? Not even the slightest!

If, or when, GTAV comes out, I'm sure it's sales will match or even out sale GTAIV. There is no way you can claim a series has peaked because three 'side stories' didn't do as well as a major, numbered entry to the series.

Jake2103 12-18-2009 04:07 AM

Look, We will never get sick of throwing a man out of his vehicle and then crash his car against a Three. The only thing that the makers of GTA can do is building great GTA games (And better port it to PC) and let Modders Mod it!
It will never peak, It only can get better.

iKlipse 12-18-2009 08:13 PM

If they scrapped the whole "exclusive" bullshit, then they will see an improvement... They will never have to think of GTA being "peaked".

If episodes of LC is released to PS3 and PC, their sales will go out of the roof because both LaD and BOGT are practically new Grand Theft Autos with new features and a story line... Heaps of gamers would love to get it, even my mate who rarely plays games except for GTA, but they don't want to (or can't) buy an Xbox 360 just for it.

Right now, all they are doing is complaining about their own mess, exclusivity.

Chinatown Wars, way too expensive for what it really is. Its a good game and all but its nothing too special. Yesterday I saw it on shelves for PSP for $50. $50 seemed a bit too high, however $35 sounds about right.

Liberty and Vice City stories, they were acceptable to be $60-$70 because they were made to be and look like your average previous gen GTA... And it was. They actually did well on it too. But also what fucked them in the end was exclusivity, they wanted to make it exclusive to PSP and Playstation 2... If they released it for both Xbox and PC, they would have more sales.

Thomas B. 12-20-2009 11:24 AM

Exactly, if the DLC wasn't exclusive to the 360, they would definitely see a jump in sales. Rockstar is basically complaining about their own doing.

dokujitsu 12-20-2009 06:14 PM

I agree with everyone here. Instead of being greedy and just selling exclusives to the highest bidder, just plan to release DLC for all platforms. If they want to take a main game and tack on episodes instead of whole other games for filler, that would help a lot!

EX: Between GTA 3 and 4 you had Vice, SA, VCS, and LCS. Maybe episodic content is the new thing instead of "filler games"

thenotsogoodtrickster 12-21-2009 05:59 AM

I would love to play the Stories games, I'm hoping for a PC release at least.

One question on the exclusitivity stuff... Would there even be DLC on this scale at all if MS hadn't gave them some cash for it? I don't think there's ever been an accurate report on what the deal actually entails, and what money was spent on what etc.

Suapsycho 12-21-2009 06:50 PM


I think Rockstar probably had a least the plot outlines written for DLC when they scripted GTA4. Take the diamond missions for example. Johnny runs off with the money, and it's never really explained what his motive is, there's only a line in a follow-up mission when a biker sees Niko and says "There's the guy Johnny ripped for the diamond loot." I suppose you could take it to mean that he just saw an opportunity for a big payoff but, the appearance of Luis in the second floor window. Now where have I seen that Letterman jacket before...? Wait, wasn't he at the bank that day...?

But I digress. The point is, they probably would have released something with or without MS's money. First-day sales of GTA4 amounted to $310 million in revenue for Rockstar. Granted it probably wasn't all profit but they definiteky had the funds to make DLC. GTA4 had a production cost of just over $100 million. DLC surely doesn't reach that, does it?

thenotsogoodtrickster 12-22-2009 05:28 AM

They also got sued to hell with the hot coffee, that should be taken into account

Suapsycho 12-23-2009 01:27 AM

Yeah but that was probably before GTA4 was even being developed. All they did about hot coffee was offer to exchange the copy for what, 25, 35 dollars? How many people even bothered? I laughed my ass off when I saw hot coffee in action. Who was so offended that it even came to light?

Christ, I'm off the track again...! :facepalm:

DIRTYindustry 12-23-2009 02:45 AM

Who are claiming its peaked then? R*?

Like everyone else has said, its their own fault. You carnt claim its peaked due to sales figures from a spin of game, released only on one console. I dont own any GTA's past GTA4 for the PS3, because I simply carnt . Ive never considered buying an x-box 360 to get the exclusives either. All this move did was alienate R*'s dedicated Playstation customers. Whether Microsoft saw more consoles being sold because of this I dont know... I dont know anybody who has bought a 360 just to get the later GTA's.

Its definatley not peaked. GTA4 was just the start of a new era of GTA gaming, there should be many more, improved GTA games on the PS3/XBOX, until the next gen console is released in 5 years time and we all start again.

thenotsogoodtrickster 12-23-2009 07:47 AM

I believe Rockstar were sued for quite a lot actually, before GTA4 or not, it still has an impact on their financial status. I read that they were on the brink, but with that said, the media likes a little bit of drama.

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