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bigbro 06-22-2008 11:11 PM

Seriously, why no chainsaw, machine gun or flamethrower??
 
Ok , so I understand that with developing GTA on the new consoles they had to spend a lot of time on just recreating the codes and make the game works, so it can be understandable why there is no car customization this time or other big things. But what about the chainsaw, flamethrower , machine gun, there's only 2 melee weapons, a bat and a knife, does someone has an idea why they removed a lot of weapons?? They added the pick-up small objects from the ground, but you can't pick-up much apart from a brick or a bottle of ketchup.

One time a construction worker I saw had a nice jackhammer , so I kill him , jackhammer on the ground but I can't pick it up , so that pick-up fonction is not very exploited. They took so much time to release that game , I thought there was gonna be more content.

You know the reason I can think of?? You will get the chance to buy all that missing stuff as Downloadable content. And I think I,m right. Downloadable content has become a way of cashing in more money by not releasing it all on the disc, then 3-4 months later, common give us another 10 bucks.

Ash_735 06-22-2008 11:26 PM

Well, first off there are Machine Guns in the game. As for the removed weapons, I miss some of them too, they have returned to the GTA3 style of weapon system in a sense. As for DLC, I really hope it isn't guns, that would be unfair to people online then if we all have Pistols and some guy has a huge flamethrower.

Johnny-Z 06-23-2008 12:56 AM

New GTA on a new console! So it is very understandable how there are no car customization, only 15 weapons ect, also I don't know how you compleated the story missions with just a handgun if that's all you thought were in there.

So there is very little content you say? Are you comparing this game to San Andreas? If so that is already one step too far, try (I think you said this ash) comparing it to GTA III and you will see how far GTA has come over the years.

Edit: also going through your posts all I see you doing is complaining about mostly very small things in this game.

Roxstein 06-23-2008 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ash_735 (Post 1822381)
Well, first off there are Machine Guns in the game.

No there aren't. D:

But yes, I seriously miss all the fuck-around weapons. I'd love to see a Katana more than anything, since I imagine Niko would be pretty damn proficient with it.

Johnny-Z 06-23-2008 03:06 AM

@Roxstain: What about the MP5 and Micro Usi :P.

Anyway I wanted to see the mini gun and M60 back! I loved cause mayhem with those two weapons by blowing up cars and shooting down police choppers.

ZCAB 06-23-2008 03:11 AM

Those are submachine guns. There are no machine guns in the game, just submachine guns and assault rifles.

Machine guns are things like the M60E4, the M249 SAW and HK 21E and stuff.

Roxstein 06-23-2008 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jonny_zoo (Post 1822436)
@Roxstain: What about the MP5 and Micro Usi :P.

Anyway I wanted to see the mini gun and M60 back! I loved cause mayhem with those two weapons by blowing up cars and shooting down police choppers.

There's no MP5 in GTAIV.. only the MP2000.

But yeah, what ZCAB said. No machine guns.

De7erminist 06-23-2008 04:59 AM

New console = better graphics = more realistic blood and gore = take a while for people to accept

All because of JT. GTA is too infamous in the media for the violence, if we had chainsaws and katanas, what would've happened? They would have many lawsuits against the game. I don't know, perhaps this is the reason.

thenotsogoodtrickster 06-23-2008 05:42 AM

It doesn't really bother me, I didn't use the flmaethrower much anyway, I'd rather blow things up than set them on fire and slowly watch them burn and eventually blow up. The way I look at it though, GTA IV doesn't have that stuff, another game comes along, over does it, fails at it, meaning when R* eventually add the fuck about weapons and gets it spot on, it feels all the more better.

LordLeverette 06-28-2008 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbro (Post 1822378)
Ok , so I understand that with developing GTA on the new consoles they had to spend a lot of time on just recreating the codes and make the game works, so it can be understandable why there is no car customization this time or other big things. But what about the chainsaw, flamethrower , machine gun, there's only 2 melee weapons, a bat and a knife, does someone has an idea why they removed a lot of weapons?? They added the pick-up small objects from the ground, but you can't pick-up much apart from a brick or a bottle of ketchup.

One time a construction worker I saw had a nice jackhammer , so I kill him , jackhammer on the ground but I can't pick it up , so that pick-up fonction is not very exploited. They took so much time to release that game , I thought there was gonna be more content.

You know the reason I can think of?? You will get the chance to buy all that missing stuff as Downloadable content. And I think I,m right. Downloadable content has become a way of cashing in more money by not releasing it all on the disc, then 3-4 months later, common give us another 10 bucks.

For some reason I can't really picture Niko running around with those crazy weapons. This new GTA focused more on creating a person, and that person isn't crazy about getting giant weapons. I'm starting to think Saints Row 2 is going to have tons of sales since it will give all the people that want crazy stuff there crazy stuff.

Patrucci 06-28-2008 06:03 AM

Anyways, on the topic.
It wouldn't be very realistic the actually have a flamethrower in Liberty City now would it ?
Same goes for the chainsaw, Not much trees to cut down is there ?
As for the Machine guns, I mean its okay to carry a M60E4 in COD4, but could you picture Niko having one ?
Seriously, calm down its just a video game. Its not your life there pal.
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The Shy Child. 06-28-2008 07:39 AM

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I mean its okay to carry a M60E4 in COD4, but could you picture Niko having one ?
If Niko can run around with a rocket launcher, then I am sure he would to run around with an m60 without it being unrealistic.

The flame thrower, I agree, I never used it, because it didn't kill people quickl;y enough. I miss the heat seeking rocket launcher, that would be usefull online, when someone in a helpcopter is chasing you.

Roxstein 06-28-2008 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrucci (Post 1824486)
But why lug around a huge M60 if you could take the smaller assault rifles which take clips instead of needing to feed them bullets.

Mate, I don't know you, and I've nothing against you, but did you just say "clips" and "bullets" when referring to magazines and rounds?

'cos if you did... :P

For your information, in fact, many MGs can and often are fed from magazines or "clips" as you and blonde women with dark tans call them.

The problem with realism is that everybody wants to pick and choose what's realistic when you're controlling an invincible immigrant who dies and is revived magically for a few thousand bucks IN A VIRTUAL 3D WORLD.

I can understand immersion, but hiding a light machine gun under a bridge isn't gonna break any fuckin' barriers, you know.

claud3 06-28-2008 07:58 AM

It would be alot harder to keep the cops of you if u run around with a chainsaw in your hands killing people

Patrucci 06-28-2008 08:15 AM

Actually, I worded that wrong Rox.
I meant to say " would you rather carry around a few small magazines or "clips" as I said before, or would you carry around long lines of bullets http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thum...llet_chain.jpg that sit in a concealed area on the side of your weapon.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Oh btw. Im not a blonde, nor have a dark tan. :P
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