Things To Notice

[Kodo]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/notice/notic e.jpg
If you are a long time GTAGaming fan, and by long time I mean long, long time fan of about 5 years, you will remember the Things To Notice page. It started out back when we were the Vice City Resource in the summer of 2002. The Game Informer world exclusive Vice City preview had just been released, and thousands of people were placing the first screenshots under magnification to find the smallest details that gave hint to any new information on the game, "Is that a dog? Was that a shark by that boat?" We provided a location for all of the screenshot theorycraft to present itself collectively. Now, 5 years later, we are re-establishing the trend for the long-time fan nostalgia and for the newer fans to participate in this exciting, hype-building section we call Things To Notice.

Website Link: www.gtagaming.com/gtaiv/thingstonotice (http://www.gtagaming.com/gtaiv/thingstonotice)
-Submission-
1. Please do not submit anything fairly evident e.g. "This is a screenshot of the Russian guy!"
2. Try to be well informed so you aren't submitting something on this page.
3. Try to give instructions on where to spot the object in question.

-How To Submit-
*By Email
1. Send an email to kodo@gtagaming.com
2. Subject line "Things To Notice"
3. Paste a link to a screenshot, or attach your own .jpg or .gif file.
4. No .bmps!!
5. Write a short summary on what should be noticed and why.
*By Posting
1. Post in this thread!
2. Post a link to a screenshot, or attach your own .jpg or .gif file.
3. Write a short summary on what should be noticed and why.

-Other Information-
1. For consistency reasons I may remake your image, but I will keep your notification.
2. All submissions will be looked over, however, not all submissions will be used.

Feel free to add your own or comment on existing things in this thread!

[manzi]

I notcied that in the shot of the 2nd car seen, where there are 2 guys sitting infornt of a house, you can see a realtime reflection of the oppissite building. I know this is a extremly minor thing but its just a small detail i thought i might share.

[Me_Suis_Boss]

You can see in the first seconds of the trailer (the train scene) that there is a placard (big printed images) that shows: Vice City 300$. That "maybe" means that you can visit Vice City(hopefully)

the second thing ive noticed is that we have a new mean of transport, between 30 and 35 seconds look to the transport moving on the other side of the bridge

[TwiztidDragonX]

I would love to go to VC and see how it would look revamped. When it comes to the transport on the side of the bridge, lets just hope you really can ride it and its not like the trolly cars in SA.

[Slim Trashman]

Never noticed the fish one, nice page, Kodo ;)

[zombienm]

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3708/picture1dk 7.png

About 46 seconds into it, top deck of the ferry, something is rotating...looks an awful lot like a chainsaw..

[Lettermaniac]

Hell, I see it. Does look to be a chainsaw.

[Slim Trashman]

I don't see it :(

[Lettermaniac]

Right next to the funnel, the very top deck. I watched the trailer, and about 45/46 seconds in you can see something rotating up there.

[Slim Trashman]

Yeah I'd have to actually watch that part to really notice anything. On any single frame it blends to much to notice anything is there really, but with video, I could probably make out the spinning.

[Nirvana 4 Life]

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4325/gtaivtrail er24rt4.png

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/905/chainsawqq2 .png

[Slim Trashman]

Yeah don't worry I watched for it in the trailer and I guess it appears to be rotating a bit. With that close up shot, arouses suspicion that it's a man tbh :P

[Nirvana 4 Life]

Yeah don't worry I watched for it in the trailer and I guess it appears to be rotating a bit. With that close up shot, arouses suspicion that it's a man tbh :P
On that screen shot I posted, you can clearly see a black base with a orangish thing sticking out. Also, smoke is coming off of it, possible from the motor.

[Slim Trashman]

The quality isn't high enough to know for sure what exactly that is there.

[Nirvana 4 Life]

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3734/chainsaw2y b3.png

Same image without sharpening

[zombienm]

Wee! I found something :D

Though the screenshots really don't show it well at all, you have to watch it.

[Kodo]

I've watched it and yes, I can see something rotating, but no I can't identify it. I was thinking it was just a light or horn fixture on the ship.

[MaHe]

Well, in my opinion, the logo and name of MeTV Theatre both form a striking resemblance to YouTube's.
But, alas, as it's completely irrelevant, I should probably keep me trap shut, eh? :P

[Ash_735]

Well, in my opinion, the logo and name of MeTV Theatre both form a striking resemblance to YouTube's.
But, alas, as it's completely irrelevant, I should probably keep me trap shut, eh? :P

Actually, MeTV was introduced in Vice City Stories, visit the Official Site (http://www.rockstargames.com/vicecitystories/) it was meant to be a parody of the old style MTV News in the 1980s.

[MaHe]

Ah, stupid me. I was just playing Vice City Stories and didn't notice it. Yet.

[.:nemesis:.]

Have a look a the pic and see the number 360 on the billboard, maybe a jibe at MS. :)

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/6184/image2ej2. jpg

Found in this screenshot.

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4701/gtaivcap8y d6ki0.th.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtaivcap 8yd6ki0.jpg)

[Slim Trashman]

Possibly, but I doubt it.

[Avis]

At arund 7 seconds into the trailer the guy in the blue car adjusts his mirror.. does this mean there will be real-time mirror adjustment in GAT IV

[Nirvana 4 Life]

At arund 7 seconds into the trailer the guy in the blue car adjusts his mirror.. does this mean there will be real-time mirror adjustment in GAT IV
No , probably just added driving animations.

[juggalo_4_ever]

ZOMBIENM said:About 46 seconds into it, top deck of the ferry, something is rotating...looks an awful lot like a chainsaw..

it does look like a chainsaw but when i went to the rockstar site, i viewed the trailer *has very high quality* and it wasnt a chainsaw, the orange thing is just a light on the railing, and the smoke is just the sun reflecting off the rail around the big pipe. goto the site and view it for yourself http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/trailer_splash.htm l (VERY LAGGY) but youll get a screen of it.

[5tatic]

Have a look a the pic and see the number 360 on the billboard, maybe a jibe at MS. :)

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/6184/image2ej2. jpg

wow nice find. That seems plausible.

[BigMike]

I noticed the different types of cars...I saw a modern pick up truck...most likely a Ford or a Chevy..and I also noticed that there were two types of taxi's...a hatchback as well as a regular Chevy Impala like model..Both clues that we are going to see a present day game?

[juggalo_4_ever]

its is going to be present day, cause i read an article that had a building that was completed in 2006 and its completed in the game, so its going to be in 2006 or 2007.

[.:nemesis:.]

its is going to be present day, cause i read an article that had a building that was completed in 2006 and its completed in the game, so its going to be in 2006 or 2007.
That's already noted in the list (http://www.gtagaming.com/gtaiv/thingstonotice), #7. :)

[juggalo_4_ever]

i no i was just pointing it out.

[.:nemesis:.]

i no i was just pointing it out.
Yes, but...
Submission-
1. Please do not submit anything fairly evident e.g. "This is a screenshot of the Russian guy!"
2. Try to be well informed so you aren't submitting something on this page.
3. Try to give instructions on where to spot the object in question.

[Rebel_biscuit]

On that screen shot I posted, you can clearly see a black base with a orangish thing sticking out. Also, smoke is coming off of it, possible from the motor.

maybe its a man farting

[Jimmy_86]

The fish, number 1 on the list, looks much more like leaves or driftwood or some other rubbish in the water to me, why would there be a bunch of dead fish at a ferry terminal...?

Also Zombienm's "chainsaw" looks more like a person to me.

[will99]

there a dead wish at the ferry terminal?...OH. :) Well it make sence...kind of...in GTA 3 they R* put in dead fish in a mission.

[kev48]

is that a monorail car that follows th cable car down the line?

[Cutts]

If you look 4/5 seconds into the trailer there is a building behind the Mega Mart sign. On top of that building is small building(probably a roof door). On the top left hand corner of that something silver is spinning. It may just be a gas vent or something. I'm not sure.

[Jimmy_86]

If you look 4/5 seconds into the trailer there is a building behind the Mega Mart sign. On top of that building is small building(probably a roof door). On the top left hand corner of that something silver is spinning. It may just be a gas vent or something. I'm not sure.
I see that, however I think it may just be the video, you know how sometimes on TV or in video/computer games you sometimes get what looks like diagonal lines running across a surface (usually a slightly patterned surface), I think it's that. If someone knows more about video they may be able to explain it better... :/

EDIT: Has anyone noticed that the sun seems to move from west to east in that shot with the church? The shadows seem to move from east to west. Maybe this is played in reverse, or have I just got it wrong.

[Tomekon]

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6421/untitledon4. th.png (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledo n4.png)


No Trucks Allowed!

No commercial traffic is allowed on the 59th Street Bridge Upper Level.

Probably irrelevant, but something I noticed. Shame on Rockstar, Your based in New York, you should know this. Lol.

[Mizer]

following the rollercoaster theme i spoted this in the background of the blue car part.

(don't know if it's been spoted befor, sorry if it has.)

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t62/J-Mizer/Picture3.png

you can clearly see the word " Screamer" backword's, in the frame work of the bridge.

This must surely hint at a rollercoaster? :)


-Mizer

[xerxes]

Some small findings I have done, keep in mind that I haven't played GTA:SA nor seen any other webpages with GTA findings so, anyway, decided to share this.

Smoking? (Red) Small details on the NPC's, it's on the man/woman the old one. (Blue)
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6263/1280x72000 30002kt1.jpg

Mobile phones? (Green) & Someone holding a baby? (Red) LCPD, for those who haven't seen it (Blue)
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1280x7200 030003wz8.jpg

Animals? Possibly a dog?
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5247/1280x72000 30004lu8.jpg


Another thing is, when it comes to the FER RY TERMINAL (or something similar) you notice "winds", perhaps the more closer to the ocean the more windy? or.. something. :)

edit: fixed links :p

[qwertyuio]

that isnt a dog, its a woman, notice the camera is at an angle, look at the man too, hes slanted, you can make out a head on the woman too

[kev48]

lol cumon eny1? monorail follows th cable car down th line? just me? !?!

[jammsbro]

the ferry port looks like easter basin military in SA

[Lockdown377]

I have seen a lady pointing at a cop like she was yelling at him at the walking ped scene, I have also seen that around 24secs on the quick orange-word display( Stock_Market) ...I saw that it said "Cheese Crisis"

[.:nemesis:.]

That walking peds part of the trailer goes by so fast it's eay to miss things, nice find and welcome. :)

[Lockdown377]

I have also seen a man with a brown hat and brown brown coat at the 13sec mark staring at the sky at the end of the sidewalk and on the 26sec the building with the red and yellow tinted windows has some words in blue and yellow, but I cant see what it says clearly....It seems that they now added a new beverage "Cola" that looks vey simliar to the realistic Coca-Cola at 29sec next to the Sprunk sign

[.:nemesis:.]

I have also seen a man with a brown hat and brown brown coat at the 13sec mark staring at the sky at the end of the sidewalk and on the 26sec the building with the red and yellow tinted windows has some words in blue and yellow, but I cant see what it says clearly....It seems that they now added a new beverage "Cola" that looks vey simliar to the realistic Coca-Cola at 29sec next to the Sprunk sign
Is this the scene your taking about...

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7249/untitled1g y8.png

[Lockdown377]

yep, for the cola scene anyway...the other things mentioned are on other scenes

[Statistic]

In that exact image that Clansman posted, if you look under the "Liberty Tree" sign, you can see a "FLASH" sign. If I remember correctly in GTA III, the Flash building was in this exact same spot, so perhaps Flash FM might make a return?

EDIT: I looked through the image Clansman posted and there looks to be a picture of Claude and a subway or some sort of carpark maybe? directly underneath him...

It looks as if he's holding an AK47 or some sort of assault rifle.

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/4613/subwayclau dejb7.jpg

[Ash_735]

In that exact image that Clansman posted, if you look under the "Liberty Tree" sign, you can see a "FLASH" sign. If I remember correctly in GTA III, the Flash building was in this exact same spot, so perhaps Flash FM might make a return?

EDIT: I looked through the image Clansman posted and there looks to be a picture of Claude and a subway or some sort of big door directly underneath him...

It looks as if he's holding an AK47 or some sort of assault rifle.

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/4613/subwayclau dejb7.jpg

There is no Flash logo, I'm looking over it in HD at it's an ad for a Video Camera, next to it, is either a spoof of Pepsi (since the logo looks like it) and an ad for Redwood Cigs. The coffee shop is called The Bean Machine.
Billboards...
Americas Next Top Hooker // Coming Soon CNT
Liberty City Max Renda // << RWD, Blushes
Sprunk // The Essence Of Life
KRONOS// The End Of Time, The Gigante
Liberty Tree // Yesterdays News Today
e-Cola // De???? (cut off by Sprunk Billboard)
? Some Basketball billboard // ON THE GAME

Edit: 29 seconds in, that 360 thing, it's a phone, I can make out the following // Captures Images, Plays Music, Makes ???

[Blazer]

so there's confirmed a cell phone you get your orders from and such.... so... plays music too eh? pretty much like a walkman possibilty if nobody has pointed it out yet.

[.:nemesis:.]

Edit: 29 seconds in, that 360 thing, it's a phone, I can make out the following // Captures Images, Plays Music, Makes ???
Yeah lol, i already noticed that before this thread was started, i PM'd Kodo about it, but obviously didn't see my PM or something...:)


http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1 485703#post1485703

[FG]

Everyone would like music while Niko is on foot, most likely that is one improvement R* would consider putting in the game; for it has been ask for so much. Thanks for the heads up CM. :)

[Jimmy_86]

e-Cola was in VCS, there were vending machines in the North Point Mall. It's Slogan was (and apparently still is) "Deliciously Infectious!"

[Vortigern]

Everyone would like music while Niko is on foot, most likely that is one improvement R* would consider putting in the game; for it has been ask for so much.

Sorry, I wouldn't. You could always run a cd while playing, but on foot, I think you'd miss a lot of things (like in real life).

[Terminator-UK]

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n242/Terminator-UK/GTA4Car.png
Here's what looks like one of those concept cars, There's text on the sign that might be readable on the high resolution trailer. I haven't downloaded it, someone check for me?

[Dan ™]

A couple of people said about a radio/CD player? I think thats a great idea, if it could work the same as the night vision goggles in SA (i.e you could equip it, and still go through weapons) it would work brilliantly. I've thought of other things working in this way too, like, sometimes I wanted CJ in a baseball cap, but not all the time, and I couldn't be botherd going back to the wardrobe, if he could take it off during gameplay it would have been ace. But thats just me :P

[maddmike]

guys look at the billboard bellow the car on the 2nd shot..."I SLEPT small words cant make outMOM" rofl

[will99]

WOW :eek: GTA IV sure looks realistic. :D

[WiM]

I actually agree with Dan, I felt the same... Sometimes I wanted to take my shirt of or something to swim, or throw my hat into the boot or something. I'm actually hoping on those kind of things: beeing able to put things in your boot, or something...

[Ash_735]

guys look at the billboard bellow the car on the 2nd shot..."I SLEPT small words cant make outMOM" rofl

It says "I Slept with your Mom".

[WhatWhat]

http://www.xboxygen.com/upload/Gallery/GTAIV26.JPG

this screen has a crane in it which looks very like the export/imposrt missions from SA. guess that feature may be staying then.

and also if its actual gameplay which from raockstars record i would imagine it is i noticed you can see a lot further into te distance than SA. which will surely be good for sniping etc.

[Ash_735]

http://www.xboxygen.com/upload/Gallery/GTAIV26.JPG

this screen has a crane in it which looks very like the export/imposrt missions from SA. guess that feature may be staying then.

I hope it isn't like San Andreas, but more like the GTA3 cranes, meaning you parked the car in a box at the docks at thecrane collects it and puts it on the boat and you get the money. In San Andreas, once again, it was one of those lets complicate simple stuff, by making CJ use the crane and you having to get the car and put it on the boat yourself.

[WhatWhat]

yeh i agree actually. i remember when i was about ten years old and my freind had the first game on the pc, we used to just got car hunting for the most expensive cars and try and complete the level that way. i think it should be a far bigger feature actually, after all why is it called 'GTA.' thinkin along the lines of films like gone in sixty seconds.

[Phil]

http://www.xboxygen.com/upload/Gallery/GTAIV26.JPG

this screen has a crane in it which looks very like the export/imposrt missions from SA. guess that feature may be staying then.

and also if its actual gameplay which from raockstars record i would imagine it is i noticed you can see a lot further into te distance than SA. which will surely be good for sniping etc.

you know.. ports all over the world have cranes just like these! so, this isn't necessarily an 'import/export' crane..

[WhatWhat]

true but you have to say it looks very similar to the one in SA

[Phil]

yup it does.. and to those in Vice City aswell..:)

[Lucky]

I always enjoted the ability to import cars. Than again, it would be cool if you could actually own a car, with registration and everything.

[Phil]

me and some other guy talked about this in the 'wishlist' topic..

actually buying it, registering it.. owning it, locking it when you leave it on the street! that would be so awesome!

[Lettermaniac]

That would be great ^^^. Leaving your car on one side of the city and then coming back later on to find it's still there, intact would be so realistic.

[Phil]

im looking forward to the "whooip whooip" :D:D:D:D

[Dan ™]

That would be pretty cool, I've always thought it'd be good if they let you choose a car, then it spawns outside your house all the time, like Ryders Picador. But with this bieng next gen and all, leaving your car and coming back days later would be possible (I think) It'd be good if it stayed in good areas, like car park or your house, but went missing in rougher areas.

[Lettermaniac]

Yep. Maybe if you left it in a rougher area then the wheels could get taken off :P

[stephen_robinson]

Animals? Possibly a dog?
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5247/1280x72000 30004lu8.jpg



Nah thats deffo a person. You can tell by the angle.

[phexitol]

http://www.ottae.com/images/iv/4.jpg

Another cross-referenced location name. Notice the "Hove Beach" sign. New York has Brighton Beach, as many people know (and some here have pointed it out as a hangout for Russian mafia). In the south of England, there is another Brighton Beach, and nearby there is Hove Beach. Also notice that a few of the NPCs in this scene look to be of Eastern European descent. Looks like this is where we'll be spending the first few hours of GTAIV.

[FG]

UK connection; interesting, Hove beach... does it have a harbor ?

[WiM]

phexitol, that is impressive! Do you live near that beach or something? OR you have a BIIG general knowledge, OR you have done some great research.
This is actually, not breaking news, but I think it's by far the greatest find yet.

[phexitol]

I am, shall we say, Googlesque ;p

[washablemarker]

not much, but, the truck circled in blue is tagged up with graffiti, but the truck circled in red is squeaky clean. niice.

also, not a find, but there is some cracked asphalt circled in yellow. niice detail.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/81/gtaiv001uw4. th.png (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtaiv001 uw4.png)

in this pic, the billboard circled in red says, flyUSA... so maybe you can fly to different areas (i doubt it).
edit: nevermind, i hadn't known that it has already been stated that there are no planes in the game.

the part of the train circled in blue is tagged up with more graffiti.

also not a find, but smoke rises from window air conditioners, and thats a niice sun. :D

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3753/gtaiv002lu 5.th.png (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtaiv002 lu5.png)

how come no one has added the sign above the mega mart sign the says "visit vice city." clansman pointed it out in this (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t= 86179url) post.

[besonix]

I noticed something quite interesting.
It's been said that the characters seem to wear diferent clothing and bags.
I noticed that the male peds can have different beird style.
You can see in first image that character has a clean shave except a little mustache and little beird on his chin.
On the second image, his cheeks seem to be darker , he has a mustache but no beird on his chin.
http://www.ottae.com/images/iv/3.jpg
http://www.ottae.com/images/iv/4.jpg

[WiM]

I don't think the guy in the first picture is Nico...

[besonix]

I don't think the guy in the first picture is Nico...
Who said it's Niko?
I was just talking about pedestrians (people on the street).

[WiM]

Oh, like that...Well, it's pretty logic that if they dress peds different, they probably will look different too.

[will99]

Yeah, I really hope peds look different, and fat and thin police to huh? ;)

[Vortigern]

^yeah, and hearing the fat cops get out of breath when chasing you! Awesome! :)

[will99]

Yeah, and the athletic ones run really fast, the fat ones can sometimes vomit beacuse they have eaten too many donuts...he he! :D

[aRTee]

Anyone seen this vid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgKegzFOAxA Listen to that song..

[Asif]

Ya, that's the movie (Koyaanisqatsi) and the music that the trailer was inspired on. :)

[flux]

not much, but, the truck circled in blue is tagged up with graffiti, but the truck circled in red is squeaky clean. niice.

also, not a find, but there is some cracked asphalt circled in yellow. niice detail.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/81/gtaiv001uw4. th.png (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtaiv001 uw4.png)

in this pic, the billboard circled in red says, flyUSA... so maybe you can fly to different areas (i doubt it).
edit: nevermind, i hadn't known that it has already been stated that there are no planes in the game.

the part of the train circled in blue is tagged up with more graffiti.

also not a find, but smoke rises from window air conditioners, and thats a niice sun. :D

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3753/gtaiv002lu 5.th.png (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtaiv002 lu5.png)

how come no one has added the sign above the mega mart sign the says "visit vice city." clansman pointed it out in this (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t= 86179url) post.

Nice finds, the one about the 2 trucks is pretty neat

[BiPolarShrew]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 012.jpg

Look near the cop car, at the front, there is a car, does this look like a mixture of a GTA3 banshee and a vice city infernus, plus look at the area it is, its all Chinese, if it isnt a re modded banshee, then is it a Chinese/Japanese car mix

[Asif]

To me, it have some similarities with the Corvette. And, the place is definitely the Chinatown at Algonquin (GTA IV version of Manhattan)
Welcome to forums, by the way. :)

[wwhi2]

hello all i am wwhi2@yahoo.co.uk

[Asif]

hello all i am wwhi2@yahoo.co.uk

Hi wwhi2, welcome on the board. If you want to introduce yourself to other users, here are some specific sections on this forum, like Crap Shack (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/forumdisplay.php? f=122) that you can choose and create a thread to express yourself. :)
Also, give a read to our rules (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/announcement.php? f=273), since you haven't apparently done so yet.

[Dawlish]

some mighty nice finds. played phexitol, rockstar leeds loves it. that car behind the police car looks stingerish to me. crossed with a banshee.

- do people think rockstar is going to leave much room for improvement on this title? like, when gta3 came out people couldnt have imagined better on the ps2 and it progressed to the mighty sa. who'd have thought there'd be such a leap in every aspect of the game back then??!!!? ah canny wait!

- also, have you seen the rudeboys maxin on their balcony in one of the screenshots? i just noticed it

- and, in the trailer, when the music peaks before nico starts speaking it says something on the stockmarket moving screens about energy prices up and africas market continues to...... - i dunno. might be irrelavant. actually, it would be ace if you could invest in companies and influence your shares via threats, or even by eliminating the competition. that would be phat!

[FG]

hello all i am wwhi2@yahoo.co.uk

Welcome ! you came to the right place:) anyway's.

[bigdadda20]

I noticed that on the graffitied wall, while Niko is taking cover with his pistol, you can see a picture of El Burro, the leader of the Diablo gang in GTA 3.

Link: http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/6310/gta4js9.pn g

[Flip]

Tendercrisp already pointed that out (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15 52283&postcount=20). The motorbike from VC's boxart (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/ 7c/Vcbox.jpg/256px-Vcbox.jpg) is on the left, and maybe, not sure,the Tenpenny artwork behind the stairs.

[bigdadda20]

Yeah, I noticed that boxart pic, too.

[Asif]

Some inevitable '69' references:
69th Street
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1219/69thstreet nj8.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=69thstre etnj8.jpg)

69th Avenue (notice the train)
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4646/69avenuecm 7.th.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=69avenue cm7.jpg)

BINCO returns!
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/976/bincoue9.th .jpg (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bincoue9 .jpg)


Also, 10000th post!

[ChiTheDesigner]

I have some findings.. (will update the post every few secs.)

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7387/8ballkx9.j pg

8-Ball from GTA3


http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5886/noosero3.j pg

A N.O.O.S.E? I was thinking it spelled M.O.O.S.E, but it looks more like an N or a W.


http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7325/phonejm2.j pg

The phone advertised in the first trailer and this trailer will be used by Niko. That means:

- Camera
- Phone
- Music

[Asif]

Oh, how I missed 8-ball! Also, the Yardie artwork [ http://www.rockstargames.com/grandtheftauto3/html/ gfx/c-yardie.gif ] from GTA III is just by it.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6733/yardieartw orkvh6.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yardiear tworkvh6.jpg)

[Flip]

Wow, now I see it's that Yardie. I thought it was that Tenpenny artwork :P

There's a lot to find on that wall, ha.

[Asif]

Wow, there's even more on the wall! This guy [http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4539/gta3logo07 ix9.jpg] from GTA III boxart, a little blurry though.

[Ash_735]

I also see the crosshair from this cover on the bottom...
http://www.gouranga.com/images/other/gta3-aus-cover.jpg

[flux]

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7325/phonejm2.j pg

The phone advertised in the first trailer and this trailer will be used by Niko. That means:

- Camera
- Phone
- Music


Looks like it could be called Nano360 from the writing I can see. We all know what thats referencing

[Boolean]

I just found this, I had seen El Burro, but not the other art, then when I looked closer I saw the whole of the GTA 3 Box art in there
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2513/gta3graffi tigl6.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gta3graf fitigl6.jpg)
I also made a warp pic incase you cant see it above, I tryed to get the warp as accurate as possible, but its still a bit out
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/779/gta3artwarp tu4.gif

[ChiTheDesigner]

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7614/tollsecuri tyyd2.jpg

Toll booths & Security Personnel


http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/134/bcranesb0.j pg

INTERESTING! Who is B.Crane, the person who's door get demolished by violent Niko? Tun-dun-dun...


http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8231/carnivalay x5.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/7698/carnivalbh p1.jpg

Three of the rides in the Liberty Carnival..

Liberty Eye - A Ferris Wheel
The Corpse Ride - A Rollercoaster
Campbell's World 'O Stuff - Souvenirs perhaps?


http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6392/pizzatimex e2.jpg

Aha! My eye for food faileth not! A pizza parlor!


http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2562/powerlines xo7.jpg

Power lines! Interesting. Seems like a good way to put a part of the city out of power, no?


http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7575/refineryys 3.jpg

Idem Dito. A refinery could be included in a serious mission.


http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8875/stallioncl assiquevl9.jpg

Add one car to the GTAIV Car Hotlist. The Stallion Classique just got uncovered. My, what a ride!


http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8623/sausecolab p0.jpg

German sausages, what more could you want? And oh, E-Cola's back too!


http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2591/hovebeachn n4.jpg

HOVE BEACH? That seems like a weird name.. maybe it says SHOVE BEACH or something.
Anyway, a beach!


http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4337/inyourtank ik4.jpg

Ahh, Gasolina. But what's it called? Put ION in your tank? Put HON in your tank? I can't read it.



Hope this helps a bit. ;)

[Asif]

Nice finds, Chi. The Hove beach, Carney Island is genuinely the GTA IV version of Brighton beach, Coney Island. It was spotted few weeks ago. [Screen (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 006.jpg)]

[Boolean]

Another Possible weapon in the game? The Stanley / Craft Knife
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/2276/knifebv1.t h.jpg (http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=knifebv1 .jpg)

[smooth]

Another Possible weapon in the game? The Stanley / Craft Knife
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/2276/knifebv1.t h.jpg (http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=knifebv1 .jpg)

Very nice find. I guess it wouldn't be strange if it were.

Edit: Yep, I took a screencap from a different angle.

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2643/vlcsnap324 688ox3.th.png (http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap3 24688ox3.png)

I never even noticed the black dude, until I watched it at 0.25 play speed.

[SA]

I think that picture indicates on how a failed mission would look.

[drewtt]

did anyone notice the little splinters come flying off the door when Niko kicked it in? pretty amazing attention to detail there, just thought i would share that incase no one had noticed it.

[Vortigern]

Just a thougt: maybe the "Classique" label on the Stallion indicates that there will be several editions of some car models? It would be cool having something else than just the standard rides...

[Boolean]

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8623/sausecolab p0.jpg

German sausages, what more could you want? And oh, E-Cola's back too!

notice how it says frankfurter and sausage the same way on both sides of the umbrella, meaning it would be backwards to people walking up the street towards it

[Olin]

did anyone notice the little splinters come flying off the door when Niko kicked it in? pretty amazing attention to detail there, just thought i would share that incase no one had noticed it.That's a very basic detail in games as of at least 2002.

[smooth]

That's a very basic detail in games as of at least 2002.

In this case it might be physics, though. I however think this is just an animated cutscene, not euphoria.

[Pablo Escobar Jr.]

This caught my atention:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8940/000000asdfax m8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9222/0002134idjfa svt0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

?

[smooth]

This caught my atention:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8940/000000asdfax m8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9222/0002134idjfa svt0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

?
The GTA III is white, whereas the GTAIV-guy is black...
You caught my attention, though:

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2643/vlcsnap324 688ox3.th.png (http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap3 24688ox3.png)

[Asif]

That black guy is Jacob. (Can't remember the source right now, that states the name)

Also, Boolean, nice find with the craft knife! :)

[Pablo Escobar Jr.]

He doesn't really look that black to me. :\

[Boolean]

Cheers

[smooth]

He doesn't really look that black to me. :\

Eh? Ofcourse he's black, well more purple, but that's because of the weird colors of the artwork.

Another thing to notice: GTA IV still suffers from low-res texture disease :(

[timbob]

wow the are some nice finds, over looked almost all of them. Would never have seen that graffiti.

[Asif]

Any possibility for animals?

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4511/animalsof6 .th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=animalso f6.jpg)

[Boolean]

Nice find Asif!

How about a returning favorite?
Burger Shot?
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7751/burgershot possiblehd5.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=burgersh otpossiblehd5.jpg)

Or Another Burgur Shot (I dont have the HD Trailer, could someone who does have a look at this and see what they think it is)
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6463/burgershot possible2ba5.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=burgersh otpossible2ba5.jpg)

And although this isnt exactly relevent, whos this watching Niko beat someone up?
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7903/whosthisag 5.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whosthis ag5.jpg)

[Asif]

That guy doesn't seem to be paying attention to what Niko is doing. :p

A closer look at the billboard.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5236/boardal5.t h.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boardal5 .jpg) --> http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/626/untitledyp9 .jpg
Upwards: Bohan - Middle Pk, Left: M. Holland, Right: D. Town, Midtown

P.S. Bohan is the 'GTA version' Bronx.

[Tendercrisp]

Just a thougt: maybe the "Classique" label on the Stallion indicates that there will be several editions of some car models? It would be cool having something else than just the standard rides...

Maybe there'll be brands of cars. For example, Classique will be GTA's cadillac.

[dizzleman]

The scene where niko is hangin off of the truck the side of the truck is advertising Cluckin Bell I juss saw tht if it hasnt been said before

[Asif]

I am still trying to figure if the Black Hawk is really operated by an NPC. No GTA yet had any NPC operating a police chopper or plane.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6896/blackhawky k1.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blackhaw kyk1.jpg)

[Hell Inferno X2]

38 Seconds into the trailer when Niko is strolling, on the right side of him in the basketball court, it shows some realistic npc interaction. Also, 45 seconds into the trailer did anyone notice the Binco? I doubt you can buy clothes but hope you can.

[TelkEvolon]

at 0:15 niko notices that the police are behind him and looks in his review mirror to get a better look

[Ash_735]

I'm surprised no one apart from the guy above has yet mentioned that. The game has actual working mirrors now which at least reflect some texture where as in San Andreas they were a still image which was a copy of the headlight texture and in previous GTA games were basically nothing.

[cox]

Sorry if this has been mentioned before I haven't read the thread yet lol, but is this two sky scrapers with a massive bridge between them? 'Cause that's what it looks like to me.
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9859/bridgebuil ding1gz1.th.png (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bridgebu ilding1gz1.png)

[Follow]

looks like a bridge tbh

[masteratt]

interesting thread fellas.

c'mon GTAGaming, make a proper article analysing the full trailer.

I think you would be the first to do it?
That would get great hits :)

[Lettermaniac]

Wow, so much to notice.

I'm really amazed. I'm happy to see the VC/III artwork featured (bit of a tradition) and I've seen two hints towards animals (a pet shop and the sign in the park).

[C-Bullets]

A lot of great finds, but the reflecting mirror's really suprised me.

[Asif]

Ya, I hope that isn't just a cutscene, I really want to see this mirror feature in-game.

[Hell Inferno X2]

In the scenes where there are police chases, including the one where the police car flips over, there are pedestrians walking by like nothings happening. R* stated that the AI of the pedestrians will be greatly improved and they will be responding to their surroundings. If it were as realistic as R* said, then the pedestrians wouldn't be walking like nothing is happening. I am judging this game too early and there is time R* can fix this, or not. I do not really care because there is not a single game that I've played by far where the NPCs were that smart.

[Asif]

Ya, I noticed that too. The actions took place very fast. And, that was an old pedestrian, probably he wasn't fast enough to react due to his age. :p

[Grimmy]

All the pedestrians and blind and deaf :P

[Vortigern]

I don't see why the mirrors wouldn't be reflecting, they were in Max Payne 2 and that game's like 2-3 years old.

[WiM]

You know what i'm thinking...The stallion, the Clasique... I think that the Clasique intends that there is a newer version of the Stallion aswell, Since the stallion is based on a For Mustang (which has OLD and NEW models).
I must say, though, the Stallion looks AWESOME!! Truely amazing... but I wonder if it's Niko's car, or if he jacked it...

Also, I just viewed the trailer once again and OMG I can't believe no one said this: the small bit where you see someone riding the motorbike: he's wearing a helmet. Does that mean something like: If you don't the cops will stop you or anything?

[smooth]

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1967/niko3pm2.p ng

The firestairs go down to the floor, unlike in San Andreas, so we can actually climb them.

Also note the steps on the electricty pole in the back. Climbable? I say yes.

[Antonio Montana]

The steps on the electricity pole will probably be used to evade cops!

[.:nemesis:.]

The steps on the electricity pole will probably be used to evade cops!
Yeah, it's already been said by R* that Niko will be able to climb poles and ladders, that would make for a good sniping position.

[masteratt]

^Already been discussed in this thread man, just read the posts :)

I noticed that everything is a bit blurry though? :\ (i watched it in HD as well)
Probably will get a polish before release.

[TuffGuy929]

This new ScreenShot (LINK (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 021.jpg)) depicts the liberty city versions of the popular VIM and Dr. Jays urban clothing stores. (LINK (http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/manhatt an/uppermanhattan/washingtonheights/181st/06vim.jp g), LINK (http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/manhatt an/uppermanhattan/125thst/park-morningside/15162-164w125thst.jpg))

[Jimmy_86]

I am still trying to figure if the Black Hawk is really operated by an NPC. No GTA yet had any NPC operating a police chopper or plane.
Since GTAIII, NPC's do fly aircraft in some missions plus when you have 3 or more stars, and there's the air traffic in SA too. ;) Although they don't usually do fancy flying like that bit of the trailer.

EDIT: Also the Statue of Happiness is definately holding something that is a different shape to the real life versions torch, 15 seconds in, more like a drink can as people have suggested from the 1st trailer.

[manodemidas]

I think Asif was trying to say that he has never seen an actual "person" inside the choppers

[davehare]

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/dhare1984/g ta4.jpg

Please tell me thats not my imagination....I hope others can see what this looks like too

[WiM]

well it looks like this red building from picture 2 ist stretched and given an other color ^^

[davehare]

well it looks like this red building from picture 2 ist stretched and given an other color ^^

...the 2nd picture is the Ghostbusters building, no-one else seeing the similarities?

[Himuro]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b61/Ibanezer013/ Picture2.png

So apparently someone at gtaforums says that lightpoles still break upon impact because of this pic, but I don't see it. What am I missing?

[Duke Lion]

I don't see anything? I hope they bend, instead of break..

Edit: I think it bends in the trailer... Else the cars movement in the air wouldn't make sense

Edit Edit: hmm.. the white thing in the top left corner seems to be the pole?

Edit Edit Edit: Yea.. checked the video.. It appears to break, and then hit the car so it points backwards.

[Himuro]

It doesn't necessarily break, but it seems it warps, and causes the car to flip in the air.

[Himuro]

edit: sorry about that. The database messed up, I refreshed and my post didn't appear so I reposted. You can delete this post.

[Mrkalu]

at 0:15 niko notices that the police are behind him and looks in his review mirror to get a better look


and if you look really close its as if he suprised and shocked after noticing them...pay close attention to his eyes reactions

[smooth]

...the 2nd picture is the Ghostbusters building, no-one else seeing the similarities?

The only similarities being the stairs and the color. Definately not the same building.

[Asif]

Since GTAIII, NPC's do fly aircraft in some missions plus when you have 3 or more stars, and there's the air traffic in SA too. ;) Although they don't usually do fancy flying like that bit of the trailer.

What I am actually saying, you never see an NPC sitting inside the cockpit, when the Police chopper or the Hydra comes on your tail. The cockpit is genuinely blank, it's the game that operates them by itself.
Related thread (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t= 58974)

[Himuro]

Another tip off from gtaforums:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/necropedoph ile_/nico.jpg

Who the hell is the guy in the bottom of the pic? He looks just like the guy Niko is talking to at the end of the trailer about how he's the only who survived.

[Asif]

Someone, in this topic, already pointed out that. From his expression, he is not really concerned of what's going on there. :p

[Himuro]

I don't think anyone else has mentioned this, but in the last shot of Niko walking through the streets, something distinct appeared after multiple viewings. There's a car, looks like another Stallion Classique, which is being driven by a pedestrian. Now, that's not peculiar, but his blinker light is. It's not a brake light because the car is in perfect condition, and only the left blinker is red. Is this a sign that we will be able to assign blinkers now to be told what direction the traffic will be going in if they turn, which in turn means less damage to your vehicles because the npc's are stupid and random?

[Lettermaniac]

Yup, I just checked and I can see what you're talking about. Left blinker looks much brighter than the right, very likely that it's an Indicator.

[Himuro]

Here's a cap.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1025/blinkernf7 .jpg

[loco bear]

[QUOTE=D-Desecration]You know what i'm thinking...The stallion, the Clasique... I think that the Clasique intends that there is a newer version of the Stallion aswell, Since the stallion is based on a For Mustang (which has OLD and NEW models).=QUOTE]


stallion is not a mustang, it look more like a chevy but you do have a good idea

(first post)

[Asif]

Stallion isn't exactly a mustang though, it has most resemblance with 60's Mustang.

[phexitol]

Several things:

Classique is most likely the manufacturer, since both the hood ornament and name in the grill represent the manufacturer of a car, while the name on the trunk is the make. Thus it is the Classique Stallion that we see in the trailer. The use of "Imponte" on the seat covers and dashboard throws me off, since there was a commercial in VCS for the Imponte Insurrection, which would lead one to think that Imponte is a manufacturer also.

It looks like there's another sign that the AI in the trailer is still unfinished: at the 43 second mark, behind the cop cars, there's a poor sap hitting a concrete support while trying to turn around. Stupid drivers: check.

B. Crane may be a reference to Bob Crane, in which case there may be a dead guy (B. Crane) in that apartment that Niko and Roman(?) are busting into. Or maybe he'll be dead after Niko gets ahold of him...

There is definitely an NPC piloting the helicopter that Niko is hanging from. I believe that it is Niko hanging from the helicopter; the dangling character is NOT bald.

Is it just me, or does the guy saying "You want my word? You got my word!" sound like Danny Trejo, aka Umberto Rubino from VC and VCS?

[Asif]

Danny Trejo has more harsh by voice.
Anyway, there's a pop-in, happens on the 46th second. Just hope it doesn't come on the final version.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7268/46thkn9.gi f

Edit: Oh wow! Nice find on the 43rd second. :)
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9750/peddm4.gif

[Duke Lion]

...It looks like there's another sign that the AI in the trailer is still unfinished: at the 43 second mark, behind the cop cars, there's a poor sap hitting a concrete support while trying to turn around. Stupid drivers: check....

hmm.. The car doesn't appear to get damaged :confused:

Asif! gif animation! :cool:

[Lettermaniac]

Danny Trejo has more harsh by voice.
Anyway, there's a pop-in, happens on the 46th second. Just hope it doesn't come on the final version.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7268/46thkn9.gi f

Edit: Oh wow! Nice find on the 43rd second. :)

Yeah, in the first trailer a couple of peds had their legs in the ground, that'll hopefully be resolved by October. Otherwise, we've seen some lovely suspension physics in the trailers.

[Jimmy_86]

What I am actually saying, you never see an NPC sitting inside the cockpit, when the Police chopper or the Hydra comes on your tail. The cockpit is genuinely blank, it's the game that operates them by itself.
Related thread (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t= 58974)
Ahh I see. Didn't realise you meant that. :P

[WiM]

ASIF, sorry for posting so late on the first post here on this page, but I know that it's based on a 60's mustang...
And to that thing on the 46th second...what's wrong with that? I mean, I don't see anything but a cop car driving up the sidewalk...

[Lettermaniac]

It's wheel hits the kerb but just keeps going through the kerb, not recognizing that it's a change in terrain. It is frowned upon on next - gen games and shouldn't be happening in GTA IV. Though we'll let Rockstar off because it's not the final build.

[Asif]

It's a graphical glitch I was pointing out. A building in the distant was popping in.

Edit: Good find with that, LM. I just noticed that too. :P

[Lettermaniac]

Oh, well I got my theory completley wrong :P Still, it works. The wheel shouldn't just go through like that, as I've said.

EDIT: Well, maybe it doesn't work. On closer inspection the wheel moves a bit and the tire really deflates because of the quick change. Cool.

[RyanEmerica13]

Wow we're like fricken disecting this trailer

[Asif]

No problem LM, I just noticed your theory, you're quite right with that. :P

[RyanEmerica13]

I think that the Stallion is the company, on muscle cars like that you usually see the type of car on the grill. Like on Chevy's Chevelle, which for me is the most stricking resembelance to this car.But then again, this is only a theory.

[Flip]

Didn't one of those previews mention that the wheels of vehicles are already moving individual?

It's quite hard to tell whether it's going up or not. We'll just have to wait, I guess.

[Asif]

Yeah, it could be like, the Classique is the model name of the Stallion. Or, they are going to categorize all classic muscle cars as "Classique".

Also, you might want to fix your sig, Ryan. 450x150 pixels is the limit.

[RyanEmerica13]

I think I remember hearing about that, the wheels should move individually, gives it a better sense of realism

Yeah, it could be like, the Classique is the model name of the Stallion.

Also, you might want to fix your sig, Ryan. 450x150 pixels is the limit.
Ill do that, just noticed to, thanks.

[Duke Lion]

Didn't one of those previews mention that the wheels of vehicles are already moving individual?

It's quite hard to tell whether it's going up or not. We'll just have to wait, I guess.

This was already visible in the first trailer.

[Flip]

Yeah, I remember that now. There's too much to remember :P

[Boolean]

Another few AI errors?
Is this a ped strolling down the sidewalk on his mobile, towards the police shooting at Niko
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5494/badaitj0.t h.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=badaitj0 .jpg)

And, this ped seems to be floating with his feet ether side of the Anchor
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8669/floatingdz 1.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=floating dz1.jpg)

Also, Im not sure if its been mentioned yet, but watching this trailer, where have all the peds and traffic from the first trailer gone? All the streets are practically empty

[Asif]

Notice the power of the wind at the beach. It is actually making that traffic lights wave at the air. (44th second)

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5425/trafficsig nalxq3.gif

[Duke Lion]

Notice the power of the wind at the beach. It is actually making that traffic lights wave at the air. (44th second)

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5425/trafficsig nalxq3.gif

Wow.. That's pretty nice.. I've just decompiled the trailer :D

I will be looking for stuff later :P and making gif animations xD

[Asif]

Haha! :P

Also, Boolean, nice find with the floating guy. ;)

[Boolean]

Damn Asif, nice find with the traffic light.
Another thing for the real time gun damage of cars, in the shot of Niko firing the AK 47 (?), the back left brake light of the red car is broken. Maybe this means much more detailed damage modles for crashing etc

[Asif]

Ah, damn right you are! The left indicator of the red car is actually broken, so we might expect those indicators to be functionable.
Also, made a gif of your find on the ped with mobile. :) (Can't get the quality better right now)

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1393/pedmobileq k3.gif

[Lettermaniac]

Notice the power of the wind at the beach. It is actually making that traffic lights wave at the air. (44th second)

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5425/trafficsig nalxq3.gif

Now that's an effect I love. Brilliant! I hope the same happens when a chopper gets near, let's not have a repeat of the wavy trees in past GTAs though :P

[Jimmy_86]

Anyone mentioned this Burger Shot sign like the ones in SA: (at 39 seconds)

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b200/Jimmy_86/th _IVBurger.png (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b200/Jimmy_86/I VBurger.png)

[Flip]

I noticed there's a big, gray stripe on the Stallion's door and side at 50 seconds, right where it's about to hit the gas station pump. A big scratch, perhaps? I hope so. But it could be just reflection.


Picture:

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6784/scratchjc3 .th.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6784/scratchjc 3.jpg)

[Lettermaniac]

Looks like some precise damage modeling, great!

[RobKellas]

Damn Asif, The windy traffic lights find is awesome, well done ;)

[Asif]

Look at the fast reaction of this lady. As soon Niko bails off the car, she gives a quick stare at him. The explosion, taking over the whole screen, discontinued her rest reaction to be visible to us.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8693/pedreactio nhf3.gif

[Duke Lion]

Great find asif!

Here is the car crash phexitol mentioned earlier. The car doesn't appear to take damage (I'm not sure, but it looks like the bonnet bends a little?), but you can clearly see that the suspension is affected by the crash.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9459/carcrashft 2.gif

[Phil]

anyone spotted the missing sideview mirror when we see niko inside the car?!

it looks like he's traveling down a tube (red grid)

[Duke Lion]

anyone spotted the missing sideview mirror when we see niko inside the car?!

it looks like he's traveling down a tube (red grid)

Where in the trailer is this?

btw, if you look at the scene where the NOOSE guys move across the screen, you will see that none of the police officers that have surrounded the bank make the slightest movement.

A guy looking at clothes (he doesn't move). nice touch:

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5672/frame1362h q1.jpg

[Dr_Jesus]

Perhaps this means more than it seems to, but everyone seems to be referring to the weapon that Niko fires into the red car as an AK-47.
In fact, it appears to be a modified AKS-47. After quite a bit of research, most of it pointing to an American stock on an old Russian rifle, this is the conclusion I've come to.
Just for the sake of speculation, perhaps Rockstar has included different gun models. Such as more than one 9mm or AK.

Edit: Of course, the barrel is a bit longer than that of the AKS. I'd almost say an M64 Yugoslavian adaptation of the AK-47, but that would make it too short...
Customizable guns perhaps? I suppose it's a possibility, though it's unlikely.
One thing I can say is, I'd love to see our protagonist adjust the folding stock.

[CaveManta]

I've noticed two different signs from both trailers that are similar. Remember the sign that you thought was Claude holding an assault rifle? It seems to be the same guy (Because of the color of his clothes) as in the sign that says "*Something* Weapons X on the first trailer.

Picture that Statistic posted:
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/4613/subwayclau dejb7.jpg

Weapons X:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5417/weaponsxzy 8.png

Hmm.. I don't have the HD versions of the trailers.. But it WAS confirmed that the blurry "Claude" picture was from a camcorder ad, but it just reminded me so much of the "Weapons X" advertisement.

And Niko's phone.. It might be the Nano 360 model. But what if it is a "Whiz" model?
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/469/testym9.png

[RobKellas]

http://www.gta4land.com/images/thingsmissed/didier sachs.jpg
Didersachs making a return?

[CaveManta]

GO GO Space Monkey Returns?

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8369/gogosf9.pn g

[RobKellas]

By the looks of that screen, i'd say pool returns, too.

[Lettermaniac]

Go Go Space Monkey and Didier Sachs have already been noticed.

@ Cavemanta, maybe we'll be able to purchase different phones for Niko.

[CaveManta]

Ahh, that would be cool to buy different phones that had more features. That'd be cool if when you keep the first phone you get, the storyline changes because you lose reception on an important call, which otherwise would've been different if you bought a better phone.

[gta4crazy1]

haha, then you can be like " Can you hear me now....... good" hahahahahahaha

[CaveManta]

Haha, they should make an easter egg of those commercials.

I hate how none of the cars have license plate numbers so far. I hope that like there are lots of license plate number easter eggs, like on San Andreas.

[Asif]

Shadow of a train, most possibly. (45th Second)

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2861/shadowpn6. gif

[Phil]

Missing Textures/Models

@ about 5 seconds into the trailer:

we see niko driving a car from the inside, perspective. The far (right sideview mirror) only shows a tube with a red grid.

Screencap: http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07260/vlcsnap-5037345.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs217&d=07260&f=vlcsnap-5037345.png)

off the record: What software do you use for those small *.gifs Asif?! Im on an mac btw!

[agent-klondike]

It doesn't seem like peds react to much, when Niko is being shot at in the car, a ped walks right next to the firing cop while talking on his cell phone, perfectly relaxed. Also there doesn't appear to be alot of peds in some shots, like the one when Niko is holding on to the back of the truck.

[Ash_735]

I hate how none of the cars have license plate numbers so far. I hope that like there are lots of license plate number easter eggs, like on San Andreas.

It does look like they will be using the San Andreas number plate system, they just havn't sorted the textures yet. Go and edit the txd file in San Andreas and get rid of a few things and you'll end up with blank number plates too. Problem with the old system is that you could scale textures (Have bigger/higher quality textures) but you couldn't scale text otherwise it would just mess up, so i assume that is what they are working on.

[Asif]

I use Camtasia studio, Phil. I don't think this program has any Mac version.
agent-klondike, please fix your signature. 450x150 is the limit on the forums.

[CaveManta]

I make .gifs, sometimes. I use CamTasia, too, except I use Ulead Gif Animator to make the .gifs themselves.

I don't know of any .Gif Animators that work on mac.. Hmmm..

I need to look for more things to notice in the trailers.

You know the bobbing fish picture? There also seem to be some Moorings, that'd be cool if you could put your boat on a mooring so that it stays there.

[Himuro]

Someone noticed something cool at gtaforums:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/FadedFocus/gt a4_2_skate.gif

Is that guy on a skateboard? It doesn't look like he's walking at all, and his body is turned sideways despite strolling by at a fast rate, even without moving his legs.

[CaveManta]

Whoa, that's a very nice find. He does look like he's on a skateboard! If he wasn't on a skateboard, then I'd be totally confused.

Maybe random pedestrians can skateboards or something. They might be able to be stolen and used as a weapon, like the rumor that was everywhere when San Andreas first came out.

[manodemidas]

Yes, it does seem so, unless Niko's walking real fast... now that I can see a little bit more (in Cave's sig) he does seem to have one leg behind the other...

[Asif]

Nice find, Himuro. To me, it looks like the guy is on a kick scooter.

[CaveManta]

Oh, yes, it does look kind of like a scooter. Because on the beginning of that scene, it looks like he kicks off the ground a little bit. And a scooter would explain his stance.

[Himuro]

I don't think an adult man dressed like that would be much of a scooter person. Seems to be a skater to me based on his clothes alone.

[waggy44]

yet again to be the the pedamisitic but to me it just seems like niko is walking away from the guy at a pace n he's just moving with the scenery. i can see what you guys mean tho. would be cool to have skateboarders or scooters going about.

[Asif]

I have recorded the scene till the last frame. Looks like the guy is just walking fast?
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9154/ped5ug2.gi f

[CaveManta]

Hmm, what confused me the most about that part is how the guy turns his head as Niko walks by. Ah, well at least he turns his head to look at Niko anyway, right?

And you know on the first part of that section of the trailor (Where it shows him walking in different scenes,) I think that the same buildings are shown. First on the part with the poor person on the basketball court (On the left), then again on the part with the "Skater ped" (Once again on the left.)

You can see it in my signature, except it's a bit small. The buildings seem to have the same color and balconies.

[pacCinHECKLER&K]

I was thinking the guy got brushed and stoped as in lookin bac like you mooderfooker u jus brushed shoulders with me and was slightly waiting for a reaction from niko. it doesnt seem like the ped moved after Niko walked by him but....then again it does. but we'll never know untill smaller pieces of transportation like that are confirmed. good find tho, its very intresting & intrigueing to watch over and over

[Himuro]

The guy doesn't stop.

[pacCinHECKLER&K]

although i didnt think he did, could he have ?? he barely took a step and niko took about 2 befor the frame changed and the guy was in the same position. but like i said small transportation may be in but its not confirmed nor do we have any pics suggesting that their are.

[Lettermaniac]

That looked so much like he was on a scooter, but after watching Asif's animation closely it just looks like he is walking briskly.

But a scooter would make an awesome little vehicle :P

[WiM]

They've been wanting skateboards and scooters forever...
Also, ASIF, I am truely amazed by your observation of that trafficlight.... Such detailed....details!!

[Himuro]

What the shit? Children in GTAIV?

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z149/gmysorski/ Untitled-1.gif

[Duke Lion]

looks weird.. But I doubt R* would put children in the game.. It just wouldn't really make sense.

[Gotadime]

No, there are children in the game. I read a break down of the first trailer, and they said that children would be included.

[smooth]

No, there are children in the game. I read a break down of the first trailer, and they said that children would be included.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea.

[Phil]

yeah, that'll guarantee a few lawsuits, some CNN headlines, and a few newspaper articles..

[maddmike]

kill all the adults you want in a game but damnit if i see one computerized child die i will sue.....some soccer mom will have a hayday on thisone....

[Gotadime]

Yeah, it could get pretty nasty. Especially if you can put kids in your trunk and use all of the new, more realistic features.

[maddmike]

look at post number 192....the wheels are nice...dont look very factory stock like...customize cars?

[maddmike]

Dime you watch tomany saw like movies....you know what first thing imma do (if they keep the kids in the game) take a chainsaw to one to see what kind of police attention i get...


EDIT sorry for duble posting

[Flip]

Now that we're talking about children anyway (nice find)...

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8503/girlxb9.jpg

A child, sitting on his/her dad's lap? Second trailer, somewhere at 52 seconds.

[CaveManta]

Man.. CHILDREN!? I know that it's a bit unrealistic to have no children in the game, but come on.. Why would they need to put children in the game?!

If they put children in, they might as well put dogs in and stuff. This reminds me of when San Andreas came out. Didn't people wonder if they were going to put children in San Andreas?

I'm going to scout through the trailors to see if I can find any more possible "children."

[Gotadime]

Dime you watch tomany saw like movies....you know what first thing imma do (if they keep the kids in the game) take a chainsaw to one to see what kind of police attention i get...

Haha. Nice job there.


For everyone trying to find screens with kids, take a look at this (http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/10303) video. Exactly at 6:05 they point out kids. It's a pretty clear view. ;)

[Scott]

Man.. CHILDREN!? I know that it's a bit unrealistic to have no children in the game, but come on.. Why would they need to put children in the game?!

If they put children in, they might as well put dogs in and stuff. This reminds me of when San Andreas came out. Didn't people wonder if they were going to put children in San Andreas?

I'm going to scout through the trailors to see if I can find any more possible "children."
People said they saw a dog on the beach in a SA screenshot. Which of course there wasn't.

I imagine it'll be the same with children here. As it hasn't been confirmed by R*..how can anyone say there's definitely children within the game?

[gta4crazy1]

in other threads people like asif and such had clips of certain scenes showing the child part.

edit: scroll up to himuro's post and you will see

[Gotadime]

People said they saw a dog on the beach in a SA screenshot. Which of course there wasn't.

I imagine it'll be the same with children here. As it hasn't been confirmed by R*..how can anyone say there's definitely children within the game?

It hasn't exactly been confirmed that you can break windows of cars in order to hot wire them, but Game Informer noticed that you can, and somehow, everyone sees it as hard fact. Sometimes, you just have to use common sense and take a look at what is in front of you and make an educated assumption. That clearly looks like a kid, so we're are assuming that there will be kids - we/I never said that I was 100% sure there were kids, just pretty sure. ;)

Even though I don't want kids to be in the game, I am just going with what I see. =]

[Lettermaniac]

I highly doubt children will be in GTA IV. Himuro, the explanation for your supposed "kid" is probably a smaller ped, who is also far away.

There was so much speculation about kids and animals here with San Andreas. I got my post count up in 2004 by speculating if that was really a dog on the beach (to those who remember it) :P It's just us fans getting a little excited about realistic things like animals and kids, which, due to many reasons, probably won't make it into the game.

[Gotadime]

I highly doubt children will be in GTA IV. Himuro, the explanation for your supposed "kid" is probably a smaller ped, who is also far away.

There was so much speculation about kids and animals here with San Andreas. I got my post count up in 2004 by speculating if that was really a dog on the beach (to those who remember it) :P It's just us fans getting a little excited about realistic things like animals and kids, which, due to many reasons, probably won't make it into the game.

Yeah, you make sense, and it only makes sense not to include kids, but I'm just looking at whats in front of me. In that video that I posted earlier, it really looks like a kid with a backpack...

[Lettermaniac]

No, it makes sense not to have animals aswell because PETA would have a feild day. It's cruel in the real world to shoot at a dog and if there are dogs in GTA what're you gonna do? Just leave them there? I'll admit that having animals would be fun, just be part of the realism but there would be an uproar from animal rights people.

[waggy44]

Yeah, you make sense, and it only makes sense not to include kids, but I'm just looking at whats in front of me. In that video that I posted earlier, it really looks like a kid with a backpack...

to be fair, it is an ariel view and you kinda see what you want. its hard to be certain what your seeing but i can see as im sure everyone else can see how it could look like a kid. I'm sure rock* would not put children in the game for reasons obvious and it seems to make more sense that it is just a just a small person.
in the end we are all just gonna have to wait and find out.
disagreements can not really be involved in speculation, only opinions and this is one of mine.

[agent-klondike]

I don't think PETA is much of a threat to anyone Lettermaniac, and the "kid" in the Himuro clip looks more like a stop sign to me. having kids and animals might be somewhat fun and somewhat disturbing, eitherway Jack Thompson would piss all over rockstar if they did have them in it.

[Gotadime]

No, it makes sense not to have animals aswell because PETA would have a feild day. It's cruel in the real world to shoot at a dog and if there are dogs in GTA what're you gonna do? Just leave them there? I'll admit that having animals would be fun, just be part of the realism but there would be an uproar from animal rights people.

Sorry, but when I said that it "only makes sense not to include children", I did not mean that it did not make sense to include pets. I simply meant that it made sense not to include kids. So, in all honesty, I was agreeing with you. =]


to be fair, it is an ariel view and you kinda see what you want. its hard to be certain what your seeing but i can see as im sure everyone else can see how it could look like a kid. I'm sure rock* would not put children in the game for reasons obvious and it seems to make more sense that it is just a just a small person.
in the end we are all just gonna have to wait and find out.
disagreements can not really be involved in speculation, only opinions and this is one of mine.

Yeah. It really could be whatever you make it out to be. Plus, R* hopefully would not include kids.

[Hell Inferno X2]

I remember there were dogs u could shoot in GTA-style games such as Mafia on PC (possible edited out of the console version), and in Scarface: The World Is Yours, you could bet on cock fights. However, since GTA is a primary target for politicians against video games, I guess including animals could be a bad idea.

[RobKellas]

There were dogs on bully, and you could kill them, and there was no gore/blood, so I see no reason why GTA IV cannot have this.

[Lettermaniac]

Because of three tiny things. GTA. Think of the controversy that surrounds the name. Hatian Racism, Hot Coffee, Ho' Bangin' (:P), everything. The media (and JT, Hillary Clinton) see it as a blatant simulator for teenagers who want to kill people. That's why other games could get away with it and GTA couldn't, because it's infamous.

[Asif]

What the shit? Children in GTAIV?

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z149/gmysorski/ Untitled-1.gif

That looks like a stationary object, more to be a pink graffiti.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9877/ped3xf8.gi f

[Duke Lion]

There is no clear evidence that there are children in the game.

If there are children in the game, we will find out at some point. All this speculation isn't really helping anything.

[AvatarMike17]

you know, our worst nightmere will be hildog taking over, the second she takes office, gta wont even exist in america

oh nice finds on the kids, thats an amazing find, good job

[AvatarMike17]

i think i found out what part of town this is
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7249/untitled1g y8.png
i think its 42nd street, what do you guys think

[Comrade Voyager]

Yeah, I'm sure R* would be so intelligent enough to start including kids in the GTA series after all the controversy over the past 6 years.

[Gotadime]

i think i found out what part of town this is
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7249/untitled1g y8.png
i think its 42nd street, what do you guys think

Makes sense, but 42nd street runs into Times Square, which then (obviously) splits. That screen does not split. But, it could be facing the opposite direction? Take a look at this photo (http://www.newyorkarchitecture.info/NYAI/Images/B uildings/TimesSquare-007.jpg).

[.:nemesis:.]

Makes sense, but 42nd street runs into Times Square, which then (obviously) splits. That screen does not split. But, it could be facing the opposite direction? Take a look at this photo (http://www.newyorkarchitecture.info/NYAI/Images/B uildings/TimesSquare-007.jpg).
This screenshot from the first trailer could be the opposite direction.

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4701/gtaivcap8y d6ki0.th.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtaivcap 8yd6ki0.jpg)

[FG]

you know, our worst nightmere will be hildog taking over, the second she takes office, gta wont even exist in america

Not to worry that won't happen:)even if hildog gets in.
Back to topic:
kids in GTA is not a great idea,but kids are hurt and killed on TV,an in movies an flim every day. Some perverted person would no doubt make a sick mod of it.And put it on youtube; or whatever.:mad:

[AvatarMike17]

Makes sense, but 42nd street runs into Times Square, which then (obviously) splits. That screen does not split. But, it could be facing the opposite direction? Take a look at this photo (http://www.newyorkarchitecture.info/NYAI/Images/B uildings/TimesSquare-007.jpg).





the reason i thought that was because 42nd is right behind times square 1, with 7th street in the center and the street after that is broadway

[AvatarMike17]

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7249/untitled1g y8.png
i take that back, i didnt realize that you can see times 1 WAY in the backround, hard to notice, thanks for trying to correct me gotadime, but up close it dose look alot like 42nd, only if youve been to NYC

[AvatarMike17]

i guesss that 41st street is in foreground, 42nd behind that, and were looking strait down broadway until 7th

[Ash_735]

tonyworton, word of advice, Quit double and triple posting, it isn't allowed on these forums, use the edit button if you want to add something to your post. :)

[AvatarMike17]

ok got it

[Asif]

Should I call this an add-on or a glitch?
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/7997/cop2fv4.gi f

I am not really familiar with use of 'shutters' on the light bar of a Police car. And, no where else in the trailer-II, I saw the shutter again.

[Lettermaniac]

That's a new thing, to me it looks like they're trying to simulate the actul rotation of lights, but it hasn't turned out so good. It's a bit of both :P

[Tyler]

Should I call this an add-on or a glitch?
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/7997/cop2fv4.gi f



Wtf is THAT? lol

Those arent Police lights.
Their not even lights! :smash:

[AvatarMike17]

confusing

[Asif]

Wtf is THAT? lol

Those arent Police lights.
Their not even lights! :smash:

I am talking about this snapshot...
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1542/untitledxr 4.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled xr4.jpg)

[Boolean]

Wow Asif, you have a damn sharp eye

I also just went back through the trailer, and found these (not as impressive as Asifs)
In the Motorbike scene, the trucks tires seem to be producing smoke, or kicking up dust (which I didn't think fitted because hes on a "clean" bridge
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3456/tiresmokey h7.th.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tiresmok eyh7.jpg)

And then on the scene with the Police Chase, when Nikos coming down the hill, we can see what looks like a nice and familiar Police blockade, (noting the cars are Black, not normal Police Cars), and then in the next scene with the Police car fliping there is no Blockade. My assumption is that the middle of the clip was cut and that the police car flipping is a different vehicle
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6149/blockadeum 7.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blockade um7.jpg)

And lastly, in the scene where the Police shoot through Nikos Windscreen, whats this car, because it dosnt look like it has the "LCPD" on the side, It has somthing, but not the big blue letters. Any Ideas?
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8713/oddpolicec arit6.th.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oddpolic ecarit6.jpg)

[GaMeR_123]

Hmm...There might be different types/models of cruisers.

[Asif]

Good job on the findings, Boolean.

Probably that bridge isn't that dust-free as it looks. We could've seen the dust trail behind the motorbike as well, but camera angle was set way above.

Far in the 2nd pic, those are actually a queue of civil vehicles, not blockade. But you're right with the flipping scene, it indeed looks to be taken from other sequence.

[AvatarMike17]

The last pic about the car could have had CPR on it.

[agent-klondike]

Also in that last shot the one of the policemen is walking backwards...

Nevermind the cop walking backwards is in the other police shooting at niko, the one with the blue car ramming into the support beam of the L-Train.

[AvatarMike17]

good find!

[Asif]

I have worked on finding few places that were re-visited in the trailer-II.

The Brooklyn bridge: Zooms out at the finishing of the trailer-I and the bridge is zoomed in at the beginning of the trailer-II.

http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/1939/bridge1km9 .th.jpg (http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bridge1k m9.jpg) http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasif/ bridge2jm6.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bridge2j m6.jpg)

Times square. (see full view for the reference buildings)

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1214/shot4rd6.t h.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot4rd6 .jpg) http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/317/shot44ey5.t h.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot44ey 5.jpg)

[numba1kkilla_oj]

And lastly, in the scene where the Police shoot through Nikos Windscreen, whats this car, because it dosnt look like it has the "LCPD" on the side, It has somthing, but not the big blue letters. Any Ideas?


i think i read about it in another thread, it said it could be homeland security and when they showed the real logo it looked alot like the one in the screenshot

[The Shy Child.]

i noticed that the jacket niko wears in trailer 1 is different than the jacket he wears in trailer 2. so you may get to add things to your clothes. just noticed that.

[Boolean]

Just comming back to the whole "children in GTA" thing, and the first trailer, I was watching it on my TV via my PS3 and got this screen at the 31st second (sorry about the quality, I took the Pic with my Camera phone)
See how the first person is alot shorter than the other two people in the main part of the frame, judging from their shadows (also this small person / Child) appears in a couple of other scenes from this over head scene)

*Edit~ after posting this I rememberd that I might have read somewhere that some of the people from the first trailer had sunk through the ground, this could possibly be one of them.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/6505/kidszj6.th .jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kidszj6. jpg)

[Flip]

New preview, new things to notice.

There were a few things I found on this page (http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5338/scan006cs 9.jpg).

At the bottom of the page, you can see three (actually four, I didn't see the white truck, so it's not completely shown in the pic) pick-up trucks. These seem to be the same, but the first has a different grille (what do you call that thing :P) than the trucks behind it:
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8283/scantruckk y0.th.jpg (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scantruc kky0.jpg)
These trucks look like the truck seen here (behind the police car) (http://www.gtagaming.com/viewshot.php?i=/images/g taiv/trailer2/09.jpg).

Also, what's happening with these peds (shown on the right of the page):
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/9652/scanpedbq7 .jpg
The ped on the left stands in a strange way, like he or she is grabbed by the guy in the middle. The guy on the right also looks like he's grabbed by him.

And I also noticed that the taxi on the left has an opened door:
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/1120/scantaxiea 2.jpg

Edit: Another thing I've noticed, there's a sign saying Auto Parts at the top right of the page:
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/8848/scanautopa rtsfe0.th.jpg (http://img357.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scanauto partsfe0.jpg)
Vehicle modification could make a return :)

[swallowed]

I think those trucks could be two different types, probably one of them is the new version of the Bobcat and the other could be a Yosemite from San Andreas.

[Asif]

Looks like those two peds are having intimate time. :)
Wondering if this bald guy is the target with the memory stick, though the magazine says he was shot in the back of his head.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/3483/12994842tq 8.th.jpg (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12994842 tq8.jpg)

[swallowed]

Looks like those two peds are having intimate time. :)
Wondering if this bald guy is the target with the memory stick, though the magazine says he was shot in the back of his head.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/3483/12994842tq 8.th.jpg (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12994842 tq8.jpg)

If this is the man with the memory stick, maybe you could choose a variety of ways to approach and kill him, so maybe when you do the mission over again if you start a new game you wouldn't have to do the same things all the time.

[WiM]

well...great observation, swallowed, they said there would be different ways to completing the game/missions... Maybe here you spoke to him, and when he faced you, you shot, but in the magazine, the sneaked up to the guy and shot im in the back of his head...

[FG]

If this is the man with the memory stick, maybe you could choose a variety of ways to approach and kill him, so maybe when you do the mission over again if you start a new game you wouldn't have to do the same things all the time.

Glad you thought of that , didn't occure to me. Maybe a lot of ways to complete missions in IV. Its looking as if this feature is much improved over past games.

[x MaDe U Lo0k x]

4110


A Little bit of analysis of the screenshot of "Times Square" or as we know it in the GTA world-Star Junction

1. The Liberty Tree - ahh, the ol' newspaper of Liberty City...play on The NY Times
2. America's Next Top Hooker -- play on "America's Next Top Model"
3. Cola -- play on Coca-Cola
4. Sprunk -- play on Sprite (and we all know what they mean by "sprunk" :laugh: )
5. Kronos -- play on Timex
6. coffee cup -- play on Starbucks
7. Cluckin' Bell -- ahh, our favorite GTA resturaunt...play on Taco Bell, but with chicken

[x MaDe U Lo0k x]

I hate the double-post, but here is another rhing I have found recently.

If you look closely at the logo on the side of the car that is shooting through Niko's windshield in this screenshot, it is NOT an LCPD patrol car. The logo bears a striking resemblance to the Seal of the United States Department of Homeland Security. We all know Niko is an ILLEGAL immigrant, and we know how the US government is cracking down on illegals. So possibly, there is something even higher than the normal 5-star wanted level in which even the US government can become involved.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/jonathan2k6/ gta2.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/jon athan2k6/gta22.jpg

[Asif]

Yeah, the logo of Homeland security for GTA IV may have its own unique sketching.
I am almost sure the Black hawk also is a part of the Homeland Security, with a different logo as well.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2408/untitlednk 3.th.jpg (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled nk3.jpg)
Compare ^its logo with the one in the vehicle guidelines (http://www.nbpc.net/Miscellaneous/VEHICLE_.PDF) of the actual Homeland security. [PDF file: Right click -> Save as]

[loco bear]

I hate the double-post, but here is another rhing I have found recently.

If you look closely at the logo on the side of the car that is shooting through Niko's windshield in this screenshot, it is NOT an LCPD patrol car. The logo bears a striking resemblance to the Seal of the United States Department of Homeland Security. We all know Niko is an ILLEGAL immigrant, and we know how the US government is cracking down on illegals. So possibly, there is something even higher than the normal 5-star wanted level in which even the US government can become involved.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/jonathan2k6/ gta2.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/jon athan2k6/gta22.jpg


where dose it say he is a illegal immigrant?

[Comrade Voyager]

I imagine DHS is involved in the plot somehow, this is a post 9/11 world.

[Asif]

Yeah, according to an interview with Dan Houser (or the guy from GI?) few weeks ago, LC had a 9/11 already.

[AvatarMike17]

Do you think that DHS will replace the feds when you get five stars. Mabey there might be different angencies involved, like the FBI or CIA.

[Comrade Voyager]

They should just go Police - Detectives - Swat - FBI - National Guard

I think that'd be fine.

[AvatarMike17]

They should just go Police - Detectives - Swat - FBI - National Guard

I think that'd be fine.


True, but mabey the FBI might be replaced by DHS. Who knows, until it comes out of course.

[numba1kkilla_oj]

I hate the double-post, but here is another rhing I have found recently.

If you look closely at the logo on the side of the car that is shooting through Niko's windshield in this screenshot, it is NOT an LCPD patrol car. The logo bears a striking resemblance to the Seal of the United States Department of Homeland Security. We all know Niko is an ILLEGAL immigrant, and we know how the US government is cracking down on illegals. So possibly, there is something even higher than the normal 5-star wanted level in which even the US government can become involved.



this is what i was talkin about before, its in another forum

Originally Posted by Comrade Voyager
They should just go Police - Detectives - Swat - FBI - National Guard

I think that'd be fine.

and they also have a 7 star wanted level system now so that could include homeland security

[AvatarMike17]

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, Lois this is not my Batman cup. Since when was INS dragged into the wanted level, oh, and if they up the level, it would have to be an even number like 8 or 10 stars.

[numba1kkilla_oj]

yeah u know what, maybe you're right, in the article i read it didn't say 7 stars was the max, it said somthin about multiplayer, that the first person to get to 7 stars gets their position revealed on the map for the other player to kill him, it didn't say 7 stars was the max so maybe you're right, it could be 8 stars but im 100% sure the article said 7 stars, i'll look for it and quote it here


well now i kno there won't be 7 stars, play magazine said the 6 star system will remain, man i feel stupid, so no need to worry about how many stars there will be anymore

[AvatarMike17]

good idea, and good luck with that.

I wonder if they will include an ambrams tank, for when the army gets called in.

[lilduffelbagboy]

Yeah, according to an interview with Dan Houser (or the guy from GI?) few weeks ago, LC had a 9/11 already.
now we know why we get 3 stars now instead of two like past GTAs

[AvatarMike17]

What do mean 3 stars?

[lilduffelbagboy]

that interviewer said when he was lookin at tha demo on tha part where he killed somebody wit a memory stick when he killed him he got a 3 star wanted level i just hope its just fo that mission cuz u remember what come wit 3 stars....helicopters

[swallowed]

that interviewer said when he was lookin at tha demo on tha part where he killed somebody wit a memory stick when he killed him he got a 3 star wanted level i just hope its just fo that mission cuz u remember what come wit 3 stars....helicopters

I think you would get the 3 star wanted-level from killing the man with the memory stick, but maybe when the mission was completed, the wanted-level dissapeared like it does when you had a wanted level in the other games.

For example, in GTA III you had to do a mission for Donald Love where you had to pick up packages when you were in a boat. I think you got a 5 Star wanted-level and when you delivered the packages to Donald Love, your wanted level dissapeared after it said "Mission Passed"

[lilduffelbagboy]

yea i understand but i heard they want "realism" so they probably just talk about how to work tha new wanted system so it wont be difficult to work wit tha system

[AvatarMike17]

Lets change subject, I hope for a cruise ship port

[Asif]

Lets change subject, I hope for a cruise ship port

It's not a wishlist thread, so don't go off-topic.

[AvatarMike17]

OHH, shoot, im on the wrong thread, sorry asif, didn't even relize, im such an idiot, grrr, I still don't get the whole 3 star thing you guys keep talking about.

[rmf99]

just curious:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1061/gtaivok4.p ng

Is that a stalion or a Sabre ,if its a stalion ... city is full of them!!!

Also have u noticed a Hot dog /Ice cream stand with a Swirl mark, Probaly a new food brand

(hot dog stand at min: 0:19 and again at 0:27 .
better look the 0:27 at a higher quality video

[Asif]

From the look and similarities with the rear lights and the body, it is indeed the Stallion. Though can't assure if it's 'Classique' type Stallion.

[Glanerd]

oh and do u see the sign on the left tht says "Johnsons".....maybe just maybe....

[Asif]

You mean the Johnson brothers from San Andreas? Yeah, I've heard of the speculation.

[AvatarMike17]

Same picture, above his right shoulder, you can see the H of HOVE BEACH. And there are a couble of dumpsters in the shot, you think there will be a landfill.

[rmf99]

a green sabre (looks like classique stalion) driving in front of JOHNSONS store XD

[lilduffelbagboy]

OHH, shoot, im on the wrong thread, sorry asif, didn't even relize, im such an idiot, grrr, I still don't get the whole 3 star thing you guys keep talking about.
naw in some magazine they talked about Niko getting 3 stars when he killed some dude wit a memory stick but its probably just for that mission....i hope

[Despirited]

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2900/pdvd008qy4 ak2.th.png (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pdvd008q y4ak2.png)


Police spotlight, Maybe they will search for you at night using the spotlight.

Pretty cool, In real life you can't hide from those lights, they are very bright.

[Fat Man Jim]

yeah, that'll guarantee a few lawsuits, some CNN headlines, and a few newspaper articles..
and yet we're fine with killing little girls in bioshock

[rmf99]

KILL LIL GIRLS?? no no ,if we burned them alive ,raped them ,burned them again and eat her bones and flesh ,that would be ok ,but not killing them XD

[AvatarMike17]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not to be mean or judgemental, but you are creeping me out with those sick thoughts, sorry, its just creepy, but im mean, they put stuff in trailers and pics that arn't in the game.

[Asif]

Looks like, Picador (Chevrolet El Camino) from San Andreas is making a return.

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ thumbnails/028.jpg (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 028.jpg)

http://www.isarapix.com/pix91/sm/1185406711.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix91/pre/11 85406711.jpg)

[FG]

Thats one of my favs ..Asif ,great eye there. Hope we see a few more oldies , along with lots of new ones,lol.

[AvatarMike17]

Looks like, Picador (Chevrolet El Camino) from San Andreas is making a return.

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ thumbnails/028.jpg (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 028.jpg)

http://www.isarapix.com/pix91/sm/1185406711.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix91/pre/11 85406711.jpg)

Notice the clock, and the R* sign, does that mean more R* apperences, and can we see the actaul time.

[Asif]

The clock looks static as judging its texture, doubt if it would be of any use.

[WiM]

It seems like actually there aren't much things to notice, as far as I can see... Though, ASIF, very nice find...

As in the previous GTA's the cars looked like real life cars, there were still some obvious differences, though, it seems to me in GTA IV the cars look more like real life cars. Or is that just me?

[Bfett21]

Notice the clock, and the R* sign, does that mean more R* apperences, and can we see the actaul time.

Where is the R* logo?

if you mean in the mortar and pestle, thats an R with an X crossing on the bottom right of the R symbolizing Perscriptions.

I can't see any clocks.

If you are referring to the green cross looking thing, thats a medical symbol for medicine.
looks nothing more than a pharmacy, sorry guys

[Asif]

As in the previous GTA's the cars looked like real life cars, there were still some obvious differences, though, it seems to me in GTA IV the cars look more like real life cars. Or is that just me?
Yeah, it is getting more obvious as the coverage began since the first trailer release. Chrystler 300c (from trailer-I), Ferrari 360, El Camino. Perhaps, there are more un-noticed.

[WiM]

Another thing: how come there are so few things to notice in these new pictures? I mean, when trailer 2 came out, a LOT of things were noticed, now there are like 7 (don't now really) new pictures and it seems like there is nothing to notice.

[Lettermaniac]

Probably because when T1 hit, we had seen nothing and knew of nothing, but with T2 we had seen a fair amount :P

[Asif]

The Online previews haven't yet received the 7 pics (#1, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7 & #9 of this post (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15 79765&postcount=55)) that were seen in the recent magazine previews.
I bet we could spot something interesting if they were in bigger resolution and better quality.

[Kodo]

Is anyone willing to do me a favor? I've been wanting to update the Things to Notice for the trailer 2/demo 2 wave of screenshots, but obviously you see I haven't done so. I haven't really had time, so maybe you guys can help me do a quick roundup? I'll go into work today and when I get home I can check this and easily update the page.

Try to round up like 10-15 of the best ones, leave out ones that are too vague, too far fetched, or ones that are seemingly obvious. Thanks this will help me out a lot!

[AvatarMike17]

Man, mabey I should have put my buildings thread on this thread, if you go there, you will see that I have found real buildings in Liberty City.

[Asif]

Kodo, You can take some help from this article (http://planetgrandtheftauto.gamespy.com/View.php? view=Articles.Detail&id=100), about the 'Things to Notice' from trailer-II.
I am adding some which are missing from the article.

Shot-2: The 'semi-circle' place is revisited at the shot-48.

Shot-19: Dust trails created behind the tires of the truck. No other GTAs had it such detailed.

Shot-22: The whole GTA III boxart [ http://www.isarapix.com/pix3/1185563781.jpg ] is painted as graffiti on the wall. Also, there is artwork of the Yardie and 8-ball from GTA III and the Red motorbike from GTA Vice City artwork.

Shot-34: A little 69 reference there. "69 Ave", obviously meaning the 69 Avenue.

Shot-37: bullet damage on the left indicator of the red car.

Shot-40 shows a different cop car, equivalent to the Homeland security service police car.

Shot-41: Wind effect (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15 53825&postcount=185) on the traffic light.

I'll post about the recent 'demo-2' screenshots in a while.

[manodemidas]

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8462/028qy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/cars/th umbs/Vincent%20copy.jpg

Looks more like a Vincent to me...

[Asif]

The headlights have some similarities, but Vincent is a 4-door Sedan, while the IV one is 2-door muscle car.

[MisterBlanco]

It does look like a Vincent.. Well, the front does. Look more closley to the car in GTV IV. Notice how it only has 2 side windows AKA 2 seats. However the vincent in San Andreas has 4 side windows AKA 4 seats. So they cannot be the same.

Also you can barely see this but the car in the IV pic has no trunk. Its more like a truck, so yeah. looks like Picardo to me.

EDIT: darn you asif, you fast typer you.

[WiM]

As a car lover, I must say: the front looks a bit like a Vincent, but it obviously is an El Camino (AKA Picador)
Incdeed, MisterBlanco, It's a bit hard to see, but you can see it ^^.

Also: notice the vincent has a bigger bumper, the car in the picture is lower to the grounds, it's lights have only 1 size (while the vincent has 1 big and 1 small light on each side) AND the lights are standing a bit higher than the grill.

[~Schwab]

The vehicle looks more like an Esperanto, or a Virgo.

[gta4crazy1]

it looks like an 80's monte carlo. the grill is not the same but the body style is similar.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6599/028po8.th. jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=028po8.j pg)

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4186/monte2gj9. jpg

[Duke Lion]

hmm.. not sure..

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8140/74impalahb 8.jpg
(impala)


http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ thumbnails/028.jpg (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 028.jpg)


It has the same grille in the bumper, which none of the other cars that have been suggested have.

[BlackSilver65]

Man you guys completly disect this video! even the scenes that are like 1/2 a second i see images off and people posting tons if intersting stuff about em. I'm gonna go with Draining Monkey
Those grill's look an awful lot alike

[Asif]

Hmm...so many guesses on the same car. :p

Anyway, I am wondering if the headline of this floating newspaper now has to do anything with 'dead' Elvis.
http://www.isarapix.com/pix29/sm/1185658333.png (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix29/pre/11 85658333.png)

This is how it used to be in GTA III.
http://www.isarapix.com/pix90/sm/1185658515.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix90/pre/11 85658515.jpg)

[abacacus]

it looks like an 80's monte carlo. the grill is not the same but the body style is similar.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6599/028po8.th. jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=028po8.j pg)

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4186/monte2gj9. jpg
mabey a grand national? i would so love that!

[BlackSilver65]

at 11 seconds, the woman in the ally is doing somthing with her hands, probably smoking or somthing that we already know about
at 18 secs, it looks like you can see inside the diner, could mean eating is still around ( is this already confirmed?

[Asif]

Yeah, eating will be in the game, it will help recharging your health.
Recent previews have confirmed it.

[AvatarMike17]

Great, Im wondering if anyone knows the building closest to the boat, in that one picture released a while back, the partial glass one on the edge of the water, anyone?

[Asif]

Great, Im wondering if anyone knows the building closest to the boat, in that one picture released a while back, the partial glass one on the edge of the water, anyone?

Which one you are referring to? The blue arrow one or the red arrow one? (See the image)

http://www.isarapix.com/pix43/sm/1185833285.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix43/pre/11 85833285.jpg)

[FG]

Hmm...so many guesses on the same car. :p

Anyway, I am wondering if the headline of this floating newspaper now has to do anything with 'dead' Elvis.
http://www.isarapix.com/pix29/sm/1185658333.png (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix29/pre/11 85658333.png)

This is how it used to be in GTA III.
http://www.isarapix.com/pix90/sm/1185658515.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix90/pre/11 85658515.jpg)

Have we gotten any news on , the headlines in the newspapers of LC?

[Asif]

Not upto now, any previewers haven't said anything on it.

[FG]

Not upto now, any previewers haven't said anything on it.

Those papers w'ere funny , at first.

Wondering if R* will have Easter-eggs in the game hidden about.

[swallowed]

Those papers w'ere funny , at first.

Wondering if R* will have Easter-eggs in the game hidden about.

I think there will be a ton of Easter Eggs in IV. All the GTA's had Easter Eggs in them (I don't know about GTA I or II, haven't played them for awhile.), so I doubt that they would leave out Easter Eggs this time around.

Personally, I would like to see a homage to the "You Weren't Supposed to Get Here" sign from GTA III and Liberty City Stories. Have another one hidden somewhere in the city and you might find it somewhere along the line.

[CaveManta]

Hmm... I'm really wondering about the picture with the boat. See the fenders around it? What if the fenders behave as real fenders do? Like if you don't have them on your boat, the boat can get scratched to bits.

And the picture where he's shooting from the car.. I wonder how much drive-by shooting will be improved.

And last, I'm glad that they finally confirmed it was the Whiz Phone that he uses.


Is that a Rancher?
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1487/truckex3.p ng

Ooh.. Is that also a Cheetah?!
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/264/truckne0.pn g

Hmm.. SWAT Van!
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3439/truckab2.p ng

[Lettermaniac]

Hmm... I'm really wondering about the picture with the boat. See the fenders around it? What if the fenders behave as real fenders do? Like if you don't have them on your boat, the boat can get scratched to bits.

And the picture where he's shooting from the car.. I wonder how much drive-by shooting will be improved.

And last, I'm glad that they finally confirmed it was the Whiz Phone that he uses.


Is that a Rancher?
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1487/truckex3.p ng

Ooh.. Is that also a Cheetah?!
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/264/truckne0.pn g

Hmm.. SWAT Van!
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3439/truckab2.p ng

Looks a lot like a Rancher, or maybe a Landstalker. Either one.

Second car could be a Cheetah, but to me looks to be shaped like the Turismo (360 Modena) we've seen on a billboard.

And I think the SWAT Van was found not long after the second trailer.

[Doubla R]

I wonder if there still is car modifying in GTAIV because even though SA was very limited in terms of car modifying, I enjoyed it, and in GTAIV they could make it better, maybe it was confirmed, do any of you guys know?

[AndehW]

If you ask me modding won't be included, can you Niko wasting his very hard earned cash on that latest X-Flo bucket exhaust/muffler?

[Vortigern]

Not including modding would be a step back, I liked it a lot in SA!

[Asif]

Modding garage shouldn't be excluded.
I'd like see there some bulletproof stuffs (windshield, car windows, tires) to buy as it in Driver: Parallel Lines. These will be helpful while Police are on Niko's tail.

[AndehW]

I agree, maybe even oil slicks from GTA 2, Useful mods would far outweigh 'pimping' mods, imagine loosing some cops by dumping an oil slick, or watching cops fruitlessly bombard your bullet proof glass. Would make the game just that little bit easier.

[gta4crazy1]

car mods should let you do anything from hot rodding, souping, pimpin, or useful modding

[FG]

I think there will be a ton of Easter Eggs in IV. All the GTA's had Easter Eggs in them (I don't know about GTA I or II, haven't played them for awhile.), so I doubt that they would leave out Easter Eggs this time around.

Personally, I would like to see a homage to the "You Weren't Supposed to Get Here" sign from GTA III and Liberty City Stories. Have another one hidden somewhere in the city and you might find it somewhere along the line.

Yeah , great idea ..except this time they put in a few extras , to pay homage an create a new era, aswell.

[AvatarMike17]

Which one you are referring to? The blue arrow one or the red arrow one? (See the image)

http://www.isarapix.com/pix43/sm/1185833285.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix43/pre/11 85833285.jpg)

Well, its the blue one, I already figuerd out the red one, you can see that on my buildings thread. But I can't seem to find that building, yet I swore I saw it when I went to New York, that the building where the oil companys are.(snivaling bastards, deciding the price of oil.)

[Asif]

That looks somewhat like the Lipstick building (http://images.google.com.bd/images?q=lipstick+bui lding&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi), though that's not supposed to be at Battery park.
R* supposedly put it because they may be thinking of bringing all skyscrappers in one financial area.

[AvatarMike17]

That looks somewhat like the Lipstick building (http://images.google.com.bd/images?q=lipstick+bui lding&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi), though that's not supposed to be at Battery park.
R* supposedly put it because they may be thinking of bringing all skyscrappers in one financial area.

Yeah, thats probably it, but thats supposed to be up near the citigroup center, ohh, do you think that will be in IV. Thanks for that.

[Asif]

It should be there, it is one impressive structure.

My guess is the red or blue one in the image.
http://www.isarapix.com/pix13/sm/1185980701.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix13/pre/11 85980701.jpg)

[AvatarMike17]

Its hard to tell, because the red arrow building looks so much like it, but I can't tell if theres a build right behind it, or if the dark part above it is part of it. It could also be the blue arrow, but we can't tell both buildinding because of the angle, we will just have to wait for more pics and the last trailer. Thanks for pointing out the buildings asif.

[kloq]

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/340/copyofshot4 1uq9.th.jpg (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyofsh ot41uq9.jpg)

Anyone else that thinks this car looks like the Mitsubishi Lancer? :confused:

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/340/copyofshot4 1uq9.th.jpg (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyofsh ot41uq9.jpg)

And what about this, it looks kinda like a Plymouth Cuda from the 70's.

Oh! By the way, got a off-topic question. Has Rockstar confirmed how many cars that we will be able to use?

Kloq :finger:

[AvatarMike17]

I don't think so, i mean they didn't do that until SA actually came out

[Asif]

Oh! By the way, got a off-topic question. Has Rockstar confirmed how many cars that we will be able to use?


Well, they never talk about how many cars will be in the game.

San Andreas had around 180 vehicles (including all planes), around 70-80 different vehicles were spotted in the pre-release screenshots and trailers.

[AvatarMike17]

Ok, this has been a dead thread for more than a week, so let talk about the buildings. The Emire State building in the game lights up differently than the real ESB.

[Phil]

yeah.. they prolly dont want too much resemblance! I remember being in NYC the first time seeing ESB lighting up... wauh! was my only expression.. it looks soo awesome at night!

[Dan ™]

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/340/copyofshot4 1uq9.th.jpg (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyofsh ot41uq9.jpg)

Anyone else that thinks this car looks like the Mitsubishi Lancer? :confused:


Kind of, you've squashed up the zoom though. It looks more like a Bravura or something, 2-door, long front short back thingy, the B Pillars are too far back for it to be a 4-door which most Lancers/Evos of that style are. The lights look very similar although, my guess is a Cadrona maybe? Who knows.

[jamaican_pickle]

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/340/copyofshot4 1uq9.th.jpg (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyofsh ot41uq9.jpg)

Anyone else that thinks this car looks like the Mitsubishi Lancer? :confused:

cant tel need a closer zoom... i will try nd find out wot i can about cars in gtaiv though Kloq...

hey guys i dont know if any one else has ever noticed this before but has anyone evr noticed the main title/logo "GRAND THEFT AUTO" is spelt with small letters except for the "R" which is a capital, so the main title is actually this "gRand theft auto"........... it appears to happen with the "F" to although it looks like a small "F" as well...lol, no point saying that.......just sumthin i noticed......

http://www.hdgamenews.com/uploaded_images/grand-theft-auto-iv-725384.jpg
look at th "R"
JP

[EMT]

heh, your right! Good find man. lol nothing with the trailer but I never noticed that. Probably just part of the design :)

[FG]

@ J-pickle... interesting..it never dawned on me R* did that..hmm , it seems it may just be artistic fickle , I'd like to ask the artist , why tho !

[jamaican_pickle]

minor fickle, yes... but it is a logo in the gaming industry and has gone un-noticed for years now. in yrs to come we will remember the gta logo with that blunder in it...
JP

[HaK]

Perhaps it's not a blunder, but a "Secretive" design, added by R* for fun? Remember old Sierra? Back in the day, they too used to add alot of extra "Hardly Noticed" content. Mainly because of Law Suits... eg... Toys R us... their's was Droids R us... but after the law suit, it was changed to Droids B us...

Anyway besides the point, damn i have never noticed that... I consider myself to be a R* junkie, and that part of the logo never dawned on me. Good find.

[redddread]

i first noticed this when i was about 9 or 10. i asked my brothers what they thought it meant but they couldnt think of anything either and we just decided that it was just fancy design. but i'm older now and (my birthday is on wednesday :)) i've had a little think. maybe its a kind of backronym for Rockstar or Rockstar Games or something?? what do you guys think?

[Lazlo St. Cool]

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9506/grandtheft ab7.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grandthe ftab7.jpg)

[.LiLe.]

I was looking deeply at this pic, and I seen 2 birds on the angle. Does this mean we can shoot down birds with guns?

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/Lile-L23-Fresh/887558_fbf786b699_o.jpg

[Phil]

haha, its Angel.. it got me confused for a good 20 seconds before i realized what you meant! anyway, yeah i guess the pigeons will serve as the old'days' seagulls... :)

[.LiLe.]

Lol yeah my bad I was re-reading my post and I was like WTF I miss spelled Angel Lol, my fault. I hope we can shoot em down and then pick them up and throw them at the cops:-D!

[Old Timer]

I shot a bird while at the abandon airstrip in GTASA, didn't think much about it. But, THESE at least look like birds, and it's give you something to help upgrade your level with a weapon, while waiting for a date, or whatever:) Pigeons are trash-cans of the air:)

[.LiLe.]

Lol, but imagine shooting the pigon down and then picking it up, then throwing it at someone, I wonder what the reactions would be from that person getting hit.

[HaK]

That would be pretty funny. Im sure we can probably shoot them.

[gta4crazy1]

i think the fun part would be throwing it at someone. that would be great.

[.LiLe.]

Oh yeah would bird attacks be fun? Like say you're at the beach chilling maxin out relaxin lookin at the waves and the hot chicks and eating your sandwich or chips and outta nowhere a bird attacks you for the food. Lol that would be so amazing I'd love that feature.

[.LiLe.]

I was looking at the GTA IV pics on google then it hit me. I swaped this pic then I seen this:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/Lile-L23-Fresh/003.jpg

On the bottom left you can see some peds caging other peds lol or is it possible. Does this mean we can cage peds LOL or is it something on sale or some.

[.:nemesis:.]

Lile23, i posted this under 24 hours ago...now be a good boy and read it. :zero:
Lile23, please don't double post, use the http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/images/gta/buttons/ edit.gif feature in your last post.

You may like to review our forum rules (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/announcement.php? f=122), it will prevent you from making any more mistakes.
http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1 675698#post1675698

[AvatarMike17]

I was looking at the GTA IV pics on google then it hit me. I swaped this pic then I seen this:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/Lile-L23-Fresh/003.jpg

On the bottom left you can see some peds caging other peds lol or is it possible. Does this mean we can cage peds LOL or is it something on sale or some.

Wow, its been a while since I posted on this thread:zcab:

As a response to your finding, I think that that is a bus stop, they wouldn't have a cage in a street, they would have it in an alley. I believe it is just an out of shape bus stop.:smash:

[.LiLe.]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/Lile-L23-Fresh/3485_gta_iv_trailer.jpg

Wow is it me or its a kid putting his hands on the gate on the bottom left, what you think?

[Yam Trigger]

I dont know if anyone has noticed this before me, but I was just looking through some GTAIV screenshots when I noticed what appears to be the top of a stadium. Im not 100% sure but it doesnt seem to look like anything else so ive just assumed.
Screenshot Link
http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/screenshots/GTAIV_ 17.html
It might also be a train line but Im not sure. Make your own judgement.

[aRTee]

I dont know if anyone has noticed this before me, but I was just looking through some GTAIV screenshots when I noticed what appears to be the top of a stadium. Im not 100% sure but it doesnt seem to look like anything else so ive just assumed.
Screenshot Link
http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/screenshots/GTAIV_ 17.html
It might also be a train line but Im not sure. Make your own judgement.
I would say 99% sure that its a train track.

[.LiLe.]

Train tracks

[Yam Trigger]

Still 1% it could be something else.

[.LiLe.]

Lol, see the one I posted right above you about the kid? I think there will be a couple children tossed in that game.

[Yam Trigger]

Children would be great to have in the game. Im pretty sure they exist in NY.

[.LiLe.]

Not really because children are a waste of time, no one wants to kill children lol, to me I personally wouldn't like it but like seeing them run around and play that would be nice, it would put a set of realistic feeling in LC.

[Yam Trigger]

Now that I think about it, it was a shit idea.

[Phil]

Not really because children are a waste of time, no one wants to kill children lol, to me I personally wouldn't like it but like seeing them run around and play that would be nice, it would put a set of realistic feeling in LC.

except.. there's not a whole lot of kids in NYC... :) well.. at least not on Manhattan!

[Beniamino]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/spitfireccs/ pistolout.jpgSo we can shoot pistols as passenger now? sorry if already discussed

[.LiLe.]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/Lile-L23-Fresh/untitled.jpg

You realize how the jaw of the bum getting his ass kicked gets messed up.

[its_only_pain]

Notice in the comet niko has his head turnd and his arm on the passenger seat to reverse.

[redninja216]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 049.jpg

the news website.

www.weazelnews.com

nothing is there, doesn't even seem to be owned by Rockstar. maybe something to do with the in game interweb?

[Asif]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 049.jpg

the news website.

www.weazelnews.com

nothing is there, doesn't even seem to be owned by Rockstar. maybe something to do with the in game interweb?

Indeed high possibility that it's going to be one of the in-game websites, along with the sites already revealed as www.goldberglignerandshyster.com, www.love-meet.net.

[baleent]

It would be sweet, if they did include children, that if you kill one it will turn on the pedestrians hate you for all the people in the area.

But in that last trailer, when the guy falls from the sky onto a jeep or some vehicle, I thought I saw an airplane in the sky.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1089/ivplaneaa0 .jpg

And in the part where niko is running from the police boats, the two people in the back look identical, bodygaurds?

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/3109/ivbodygaur dscb4.jpg

[Asif]

It would be sweet, if they did include children, that if you kill one it will turn on the pedestrians hate you for all the people in the area.

But in that last trailer, when the guy falls from the sky onto a jeep or some vehicle, I thought I saw an airplane in the sky.

That's an AK-47 (I think so).

http://www.isarapix.com/pix99/1197224848.png


And in the part where niko is running from the police boats, the two people in the back look identical, bodygaurds?


Ya, both (I can't be sure if they are some bodyguards) do look identical, except one of them is wearing glasses.
http://www.isarapix.com/pix20/sm/1197224990.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix20/pre/11 97224990.jpg)

In another sequence, there are some other people boarding it.
http://www.isarapix.com/pix37/sm/1197224998.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix37/pre/11 97224998.jpg)

[baleent]

That's an AK-47 (I think so).

http://www.isarapix.com/pix99/1197224848.png



Ya, both (I can't be sure if they are some bodyguards) do look identical, except one of them is wearing glasses.
http://www.isarapix.com/pix20/sm/1197224990.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix20/pre/11 97224990.jpg)

In another sequence, there are some other people boarding it.
http://www.isarapix.com/pix37/sm/1197224998.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix37/pre/11 97224998.jpg)

That guy kind of looks like either the one yelling at you to get out of his sight or the one that says "So you're the man that got jacked for a million dollars."

[RockForLight]

The guy saying"So you're the man that got jacked for a million dollars." looks like Mcreary or whatever his name is .

[Mousey]

No repeat characters in gta4 ^^

[RockForLight]

what?

I thought Mcreary was a new one.

[dizzleman]

hey did anyone see one the gametrailers website when u click over the gta pop-block at the top u see a sneaker store behind Niko named JIM sneakers...maybe its a new store or somethin....but i kno that theres a store like that in NYC but i 4get wat its actually called...i tried using print screen but havin a hard time gettin it on photobucket

[Leeham]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 049.jpg

the news website.

www.weazelnews.com

nothing is there, doesn't even seem to be owned by Rockstar. maybe something to do with the in game interweb?

It hasn't been registered by anyone, it's a default landing page.

http://whois.net/search.cgi2?str=weazelnews.com

[Asif]

hey did anyone see one the gametrailers website when u click over the gta pop-block at the top u see a sneaker store behind Niko named JIM sneakers...maybe its a new store or somethin....but i kno that theres a store like that in NYC but i 4get wat its actually called...i tried using print screen but havin a hard time gettin it on photobucket

JIM sneakers, along with Dr. Jays were confirmed in an early screenshot (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 021.jpg).

[dizzleman]

ohh ok yea i didnt see that pic but thts gud that they used real life counter parts

[Retromoe]

Jim Sneakers - the store colors resembles VIM (from jamaica avenue for those who are from NY)
Jr Rays - Dr Jays, Sweet

Jamaica ave must probably be in the game (i dont live to far from jamaica ave) :):):):):)

[Asif]

Jamaica ave must probably be in the game (i dont live to far from jamaica ave) :):):):):)

Jamaica queens got a big Bangladeshi community residing there, I'd be happy if it somehow gets mentioned in the game. :)

[AvatarMike17]

I noticed this a few weeks back, but I forgot about it

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 049.jpg

Badger News, Weazle Comunacations, very funny

Plus, the have the LCPD booth in Star Junction, just like the NYPD one in Times Square.

[The Shy Child.]

I noticed this a few weeks back, but I forgot about it

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 049.jpg

Badger News, Weazle Comunacations, very funny

Plus, the have the LCPD booth in Star Junction, just like the NYPD one in Times Square.
There is actually a little moped in that screenshot.

[Yam Trigger]

The shot looks primative from the 'blockishness' of the cabs.

[Cutts]

I noticed this a few weeks back, but I forgot about it

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 049.jpg

Badger News, Weazle Comunacations, very funny

Plus, the have the LCPD booth in Star Junction, just like the NYPD one in Times Square.

Might have been noticed before but Logger Beer is advertised in that screenshot.

[Yam Trigger]

Yeah, its already been noticed.

[Retromoe]

Jamaica queens got a big Bangladeshi community residing there, I'd be happy if it somehow gets mentioned in the game. :)

Your're right, they are plenty of Bangladeshi(people and businesses), Blacks, Not much white, Spanish, Guyanese (which i am :) )

[AvatarMike17]

Your're right, they are plenty of Bangladeshi(people and businesses), Blacks, Not much white, Spanish, Guyanese (which i am :) )

I doubt It will be mentioned

I BET IT WILL BE FEATURED!:smash:

[WiM]

Sorry, to big to post normal (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 082.jpg)

Seems like a Mitsubishi Galant to me...

Found another thing: most licenceplates say "Liberty City"
This one (http://www.isarapix.com/pix42/1201110786.jpg)
If you look closely; this one (http://www.isarapix.com/pix84/1201110746.jpg)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/626/nicecu1.th. jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nicecu1. jpg)
Never mind, he's not the guy I though he was.

[Phil]

http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nicecu1.j pg

Meh, thats not an automatic im affraid! :P It has a slot shift pattern, mostly seen on italian sportscars.

[WiM]

http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nicecu1.j pg

Meh, thats not an automatic im affraid! :P It has a slot shift pattern, mostly seen on italian sportscars.

Hmm, yes, but it's a rather old, american car, so it most likely is an automatic transmission. I could be wrong though.

[SA BMX 64]

Cars with Automatic transmission will gonna be cool!!!!!!!!!!

[AvatarMike17]

If you look closely; this one (http://www.isarapix.com/pix84/1201110746.jpg)




It looks like the Plaza Hotel is in this shot, as is Central Park, and the very close proximity of the Crysler Building(in real life, its much to far away, not even seeable from that location)

[SA BMX 64]

And in that picture is a Wolkswagen!

[WiM]

In every GTA there was automatic transmission. That's clearly visible in GTA:SA;
-cars with auto-trans.: CJ holds the steeringwheel with both hands
-cars with man.-trans.: CJ puts his right hand on the gear lever.

And in that picture is a Wolkswagen!

EDIT: It's not a Wolkswagen, it seems more like a Lexus.

[optik]

EDIT: It's not a Wolkswagen, it seems more like a Lexus.

It's like this Lexus
http://z.about.com/d/suvs/1/7/K/H/-/-/Rear3q.JPG

[Yam Trigger]

I notced this while viewing the third trailer yesterday.
If you look closely at the picture you can see some droplets of water on the screen. From what I can see it looks like greater detail with the droplets since Vice City. I hope this effect appears in the final product.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2038/waterdropl etstx3.png

[optik]

also, I think that the screenshots here (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 080.jpg) and here (http://www.gtagaming.com/viewshot.php?i=/images/g taiv/screenshots/020.jpg) are from the same mission. In the older one (second) it shows what looks like Niko walking away from a bank heist or something similar with a bag probably full of loot, and the newer one (first) shows Niko with 2 men, with the same bags as Niko, with a Securicar. Seems to be from the same mission, unless there are bank robbery mini-games

EDIT: also, the car that Niko is driving in this (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 082.jpg) pic looks like the Mitsubishi Gallant (http://www.car-buying-strategies.com/2002-photos/2002-mitsubishi-gallant.jpg), and the emblem on the front of the car vaguely resembles the Mitsubishi one. (http://images.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_ 0502_Ordinary_39s_2005_Mitsubishi_Lancer_Ralliart_ Mitsubishi_Emblem.jpg)

[Cutts]

Ok, i've noticed two things in the 3rd Trailer that may already have been noticed. When you see Roman just coming out of possibly a garage or something just after he says "That is the dream" it looks like a passer-by is using his cellphone as either an MP3 Player or he is texting someone. Then, on the next scene where they are driving beside the Mercedes-like sports car, if you pause it and look in the background after there tail ends are roughly in-line (The cars that is) you can see someone wearing something that looks like a naval cap. Might be a police officer wearing a coat, might be a sailor.

[Yam Trigger]

Both good finds PRF. These are the kind of details we should expect to be included for next generation games.

[C-Bullets]

Sorry, to big to post normal (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 082.jpg)

Seems like a Mitsubishi Galant to me...

Found another thing: most licenceplates say "Liberty City"
This one (http://www.isarapix.com/pix42/1201110786.jpg)
If you look closely; this one (http://www.isarapix.com/pix84/1201110746.jpg)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/626/nicecu1.th. jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nicecu1. jpg)
Never mind, he's not the guy I though he was.


Hmm I made about if it was a good idea for Automatic/Standard cars, maybe we'll get to at least drive automatic cars ourselves?

[WiM]

@ smokeandbooze: The lexus: exactly what was thinking. The Galant: I already pointed that out. I'm pretty excited a Galant look-a-like will be in the game. But thanks for adding pictures.
Sorry, to big to post normal (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 082.jpg)

Seems like a Mitsubishi Galant to me....

@Yam: Well spotted!

[Yam Trigger]

If you watch the trailer in HD you can see the droplets sliding down the screen.

[Phil]

http://xs223.xs.to/xs223/08053/gtaivscreenanalsys8 99.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs223&d=08053&f=gtaivscreenanalsys899.jpg)

Noticed some stuff in the background, see pic for more!

[WiM]

@Phil: It's not a sabre, it's a stallion. The same car Niko drives, only this one's gray. It seems like it's a convertable.
And about the "red shadow" underneath the cop car, I think that's because of the light on top of the car. Still a bit odd, though.

[Asif]

I was under the impression that it was neon lighting beneath the police car...

[Yam Trigger]

What's the deal?
The Stallion in GTAIV looks so much like a Sabre from previous titles. Are Rockstar giving the Sabre a completely new design or is it getting scratched all together?

[Phil]

@Phil: It's not a sabre, it's a stallion. The same car Niko drives, only this one's gray. It seems like it's a convertable.
And about the "red shadow" underneath the cop car, I think that's because of the light on top of the car. Still a bit odd, though.

The convertible idea struck me.. but to me it seems the windshield should've been visible then! :)

[WiM]

The convertible idea struck me.. but to me it seems the windshield should've been visible then! :)

That's true. Thought of that aswel. It does look like it dove into a wall, but there's no sign of damage.

[Phil]

when i first noticed it, it seemed like a huge concrete block had hit the car, thus crushing the roof, and it was now resting on where the A,B,C columns were.

[WiM]

I have no idea: I've been studying that picture for minutes now, but just can't see it.

[Dawlish]

also, I think that the screenshots here (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 080.jpg) and here (http://www.gtagaming.com/viewshot.php?i=/images/g taiv/screenshots/020.jpg) are from the same mission. In the older one (second) it shows what looks like Niko walking away from a bank heist or something similar with a bag probably full of loot, and the newer one (first) shows Niko with 2 men, with the same bags as Niko, with a Securicar. Seems to be from the same mission, unless there are bank robbery mini-games

EDIT: also, the car that Niko is driving in this (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 082.jpg) pic looks like the Mitsubishi Gallant (http://www.car-buying-strategies.com/2002-photos/2002-mitsubishi-gallant.jpg), and the emblem on the front of the car vaguely resembles the Mitsubishi one. (http://images.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_ 0502_Ordinary_39s_2005_Mitsubishi_Lancer_Ralliart_ Mitsubishi_Emblem.jpg)


i think you could be right about those pics being the same mission. however in the second picture it doesnt look like Niko is standing outside the van. I bet they have locked him inside it or something, lol betrayal

[Asif]

It is kinda obvious that the guy with molotov in hand is Niko, the van might hold some evidence against them, so he is setting fire on it. (reminds of the first heist sequence at the beginning of 'Heat')

[scott]

I notced this while viewing the third trailer yesterday.
If you look closely at the picture you can see some droplets of water on the screen. From what I can see it looks like greater detail with the droplets since Vice City. I hope this effect appears in the final product.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2038/waterdropl etstx3.png

oooh, all four wheels have camber when it's jumping.

independant suspension, you have made me a happy man.

[Asif]

http://www.isarapix.com/pix72/sm/1202352529.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix72/pre/12 02352529.jpg)

The place in the ^screenshot is revisited. (below the red arrow)

http://www.isarapix.com/pix93/sm/1202352513.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix93/pre/12 02352513.jpg)

[AvatarMike17]

http://www.isarapix.com/pix72/sm/1202352529.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix72/pre/12 02352529.jpg)

The place in the ^screenshot is revisited. (below the red arrow)

http://www.isarapix.com/pix93/sm/1202352513.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix93/pre/12 02352513.jpg)

Nice find Asif, I would Have never even notice anything in the first pic:eli:

Oh yeah, can you check over my findings
http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9 9108

[Asif]

Oh yeah, I left some assignment for you in that thread. ;)

About this screenshot,

http://www.isarapix.com/pix56/pre/1202306552.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/pix56/1202306552.jpg)

You can see Harlem lift bridge (I think) far in the background.
http://www.isarapix.com/pix98/sm/1202389995.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix98/pre/12 02389995.jpg)http://www.isarapix.com/pix64/sm/1202 390969.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix64/pre/12 02390969.jpg)

What are the two bridges that the boats are about to pass by?

[AvatarMike17]

Yeah, it the Harlem Lift bridge.

I found the first one, except there are like 7 bridges that all look the same.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Hamilton_Br idge

As for the second one, well, I belive they just created it, because these are the closest things to it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Avenue_Bridge_% 28Manhattan%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/145th_Street_Bridge

Im not sure, sorry.

[Asif]

1st one definitely looks like the one you linked to. 2nd one appears to be some railroad bridge, don't you think so?

[AvatarMike17]

It does, more like a random bridge that they threw in the game as filler.

[Phil]

It does, more like a random bridge that they threw in the game as filler.

They should've thrown in a few tunnels!!! WTF, new york as two super huge of them!

[Cutts]

In this (http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/#?page=screens&content=60) pic, the two men standing to behind and to niko's left are the guys we see him talking to at the end of the 3rd trailer "Move up, Ladies".

[AvatarMike17]

They should've thrown in a few tunnels!!! WTF, new york as two super huge of them!

Two?

There are 4 major tunnels connecting mahattan
Lincoln
Holland
Brooklyn-Battery
Qweens-Midtown

Plus, a few under the hardvard river

Besides, how do you know they arn't in the game, we haven't seen any tunnel shot have we? I think that there will be a few tunnels, besides, didn't one sign from the second trailer show directions to the Holland tunnel?

[AC87]

Anyone notice there hasnt be any identical NPC's, i know most likely there's going to a be a couple that look-alike, but hopefully it happens rarely.

[Yam Trigger]

To reduce or even eliminate identical NPC's has been one of Rockstar's main targets when developing GTA IV and from all the screens I've seen it looks like they have succeeded.

[Jimmy_86]

I think I remember reading something about that, although some similar NPC's may appear they will have randomised clothing and accessories (like holding a paper/phone/shopping bag) so it will be much better than before without requiring loads of completely different character models.

[Phil]

http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08066/awesomescreen_copy1 14.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08066/lcmap312.jpg (http://xs.to)

http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08066/reallcmap913.jpg (http://xs.to)

I believe you get the idea....

Its either Roosevelt island or Wards island, or a combination of both, for simplistic reasons.


// also on a note, its now been confirmed that only one tunnel is present in the game, "Booth Tunnel" connecting AL-AD

- Confirmed bridges/tunnel: Broker Bridge (AL-BR), Algonquin Bridge (AL-BR), Dukes Bay Bridge (BO-DU), East Borough Bridge (connects AL, DU, BO altogether), North Wood Heights Bridge (BO-AL), Hickey Bridge (AL-AD) and Booth Tunnel (AL-AD) [Note: BR- Broker, AL- Algonquin, BO- Bohan, DU- Dukes, AD- Alderney]

[FG]

There is a tiny bit of land around the middle of that Z shaped bridge road, you've circled, I think. Good find Phil:)

[Phil]

updated my post http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=173 5012&postcount=459

[WiM]

Nicely done, Phil ;) But on the GTA IV map, there's nothing that looks like the Roosevelt Island. Maybe they left that out?

[Asif]

Nicely done, Phil ;) But on the GTA IV map, there's nothing that looks like the Roosevelt Island. Maybe they left that out?

PSM3 (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t= 99553) (page-30) sketched a map that has an island with almost the same shape as Roosevelt island, that is connected with three of the boroughs.

[Yam Trigger]

I noticed in that preview that they were using the PS3 version when they previewed the game.

[Asif]

I noticed in that preview that they were using the PS3 version when they previewed the game.

Yeah, first ever the media saw a PS3 playing the GTA IV. In the early months, it was Xbox 360 all along.

[WiM]

Thanks ASIF, did not see that one (was asleep at that time :))

[Asif]

You're welcome.

Anyway, what do you make up of the name for this car? (read the grill)

http://www.isarapix.com/pix10/pre/1202495320.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/pix10/1202495320.jpg)

[Phil]

You're welcome.

Anyway, what do you make up of the name for this car? (read the grill)

Took the liberty to post the HD version..

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2494/054xd7.th. jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=054xd7.j pg)

The grill says "Reclassic"

[Yam Trigger]

I noticed on the licence plate of that car that it still says Liberty City.
I hope that is not the case in the game.

[Phil]

Naa, im sure they'll add individual plates to at least 100 vehicles, so we wont just see duplicated all over the screen! :)

Even a, now, old game, such as Saints Row had individual plates on vehicles.. to some extent atleast.

[Asif]

I did upload the HD version (clicking the preview image will lead to that) ;)

Anyway, thanks for spotting, I couldn't read the texts before 'Classic'.

[Phil]

I did upload the HD version (clicking the preview image will lead to that) ;)

Anyway, thanks for spotting, I couldn't read the texts before 'Classic'.


stupid me... someone tell me, why the wheel is on fire!

its one hell of a burnout Niko did...

[Yam Trigger]

Naa, im sure they'll add individual plates to at least 100 vehicles, so we wont just see duplicated all over the screen! :)

Even a, now, old game, such as Saints Row had individual plates on vehicles.. to some extent atleast.

What if you reseached a licence plate on a police computer in order to locate someone.

[Phil]

What if you reseached a licence plate on a police computer in order to locate someone.

Another very good point, suggesting that these present plates are only placeholders, to be replaced before the game is shipped!

Of cause there'll be a DMV database

[Phil]

http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08066/lcpanoramview364.jp g (http://xs.to)

I did a bit of analyzing on the panorama view from the main page.. hope someone finds it interesting...

[Yam Trigger]

Excellent anaylisis.

I noticed in the first page of the PSM3 article that the pressure sensitive R2 button was being used as the accelerator.
This will make keeping a steady speed easy than constantly tapping the X button.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9189/writingaa5 .png

[Asif]

There were speculation about the presence of blinkers/indicators on the cars (driven by NPCs) since the 2nd trailer. I can now say ,for fact, that it actually exists.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix97/1202570849.jpg

[Cutts]

Great find! I was looking for something interesting with the cars, but it seems you beat me to it.

[AvatarMike17]

http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08066/awesomescreen_copy1 14.jpg (http://xs.to)


Intresting fact here, In real life, The Crysler Building is on 42nd Street, While the MetLife Building is on 44th.
Here, it shows the GetaLIfe Building is south of the Crysler Building.wtf

[WiM]

@Asif: You've got a keen eye, my friend
@Phil: That counts for you aswel
@Yam: I expected that: R2= accelerating L2= Braking. Seems logic, actually, since it's very useful.
@Tony: maybe they did that on purpose? I mean, it's not an EXACT replica of NY now, is it? Or maybe you are wrong?

Now to me it seems like the satelitedish on top of that building (whatever building that might be) is not finished. It's not as round is it should be. But then again, we've got to wait for the final version.

EDIT: about the car... Or it says something like "Rigassi' or something, ir it says "CLASSIC" but with maybe an ornament before it? look closely:

Pic1:
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2059/71941766qn 4.png
Pic2:
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6319/19085662nn 8.png
Pic3:
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9589/59313955di 1.png

I'm sorry for the crappy pictures, did everything in a hurry.

[Asif]

Now to me it seems like the satelitedish on top of that building (whatever building that might be) is not finished. It's not as round is it should be. But then again, we've got to wait for the final version..



With given altitude and position on the map, I believe we're viewing down from the Empire State building in that pic.


http://www.isarapix.com/pix42/sm/1202575794.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix42/pre/12 02575794.jpg)

About, the car 'RECLASSIC' perhaps, as Phil said in the previous page.

[WiM]

Possible, but reclassic does not make any sense.

[AvatarMike17]

With given altitude and position on the map, I believe we're viewing down from the Empire State building in that pic.


http://www.isarapix.com/pix42/sm/1202575794.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix42/pre/12 02575794.jpg)

About, the car 'RECLASSIC' perhaps, as Phil said in the previous page.

Thats kind of obvious:zero:

But heres what it looks like in real life
http://andrewprokos.com/d/wide-angle-view-from-empire-state-building?g2_itemId=4748&g2_serialNumber=3

Look at the reletiveaty between Crysler and Metlife

As for the car, it could be "R*CLASSIC"

[Asif]

I know it's obvious, but I was responding to Wim's post. ;)
Can you spot the building immediately behind Chryster building? (from Whiz caps) Looks like they have changed the in-game alignment of the buildings at 90* angle comparing real-life.

[AvatarMike17]

http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08066/lcpanoramview364.jp g (http://xs.to)

I did a bit of analyzing on the panorama view from the main page.. hope someone finds it interesting...

Im not sure, but in the background of this pic, it looks like the citicorp building over in Dukes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicorp_Building

[WiM]

R*CLASSIC Of course! Tony, you genious!!

[Phil]

Here's some more.. didn't really have anything to do today besides having hangovers... so..

Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis/Lincoln TownCar type of car
Also, car advertisement on the building.. looks like some 80's old, chevy, or cadillac.
Funny thing, is one of the adds says: "Pirate Music" suggestion from R*?
http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08066/ivscreen591.png (http://xs.to)

Police Station... 2 visible squad cars parked
http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08066/ivscreen2905.png (http://xs.to)

"J 3 Algonquin N and FI Airport" suggest a bit more complex subway system, such as Algonquin S?
Note: FI = Francis International.
http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08066/ivscreen3832.png (http://xs.to)

[AvatarMike17]

R*CLASSIC Of course! Tony, you genious!!

Why thank you.

@Phil, great finds dude, good work

[Xboxlover2]

I noticed that sign in the subway station as well... hopefully there will be a more in-depth subway system.

[Asif]

1) More examples on the car blinkers/indicators.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasif/ Untitled-16.gif (1.36 mb)

(0:11-0:14, Vlad movie)

2) Vlad's office is right in front of the 'Broker Navy Yard'.

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasif/ th_untitled2-2.jpg (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasi f/untitled2-2.jpg)

3) Return of the waving traffic signal (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15 53825&postcount=185). :D

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasif/ Untitled1.gif (1.59 mb)

4) Return of Faggio, I am not sure if it was seen before.

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasif/ th_untitled2-3.png (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasi f/untitled2-3.png)

from Manny trailer (22nd second)

[AvatarMike17]

Oo, I just figuerd something out, oh, but its much more fitted for the buildings thread, anyone wana posty there so I can post:D

Good work guys, you've all been working great over this week:D

[Yam Trigger]

@Asif
Hopefully wind plays a strong part in the game.

[Phil]

@Asif
Hopefully wind plays a strong part in the game.

Ever driven down a freeway at 70mph, and then having a strong gust coming at you 90* to your direction of travel.. now try keeping it within the lane! :D

Hope this will be in IV.... just you know, cause it can..

[WiM]

You're absolutely right, Phil.

@Asif: I tried to open those pages and it says "This Domain (isarapix.com) Has Been Disabled"

[Asif]

You're absolutely right, Phil.

@Asif: I tried to open those pages and it says "This Domain (isarapix.com) Has Been Disabled"

Its sister site isaraurl.com was spammed by a hacker yesterday and that resulted in disabling both sites (isarapix and isaraurl) by the host. It should come online in few hours as I contacted the webmaster.

I'll re-upload the gifs on imageshack/photobucket in a moment.

[WiM]

Great, thanks Asif.

[Asif]

No problem, links fixed! :)

1) More examples on the car blinkers/indicators.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasif/ Untitled-16.gif (1.36 mb)

(0:11-0:14, Vlad movie)

2) Vlad's office is right in front of the 'Broker Navy Yard'.

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasif/ th_untitled2-2.jpg (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasi f/untitled2-2.jpg)

3) Return of the waving traffic signal (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15 53825&postcount=185). :D

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasif/ Untitled1.gif (1.59 mb)

4) Return of Faggio, I am not sure if it was seen before.

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasif/ th_untitled2-3.png (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasi f/untitled2-3.png)

from Manny trailer (22nd second)

[FG]

omg... new an improved Faggio, the world is ok now;) thanks Asif.

You know, at times looking at the video's , it seemed as if it w'ere a real life event, hit me whilst veiwing the blinkers.

[Phil]

http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08060/ivscreen924.png.xs. jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs124&d=08060&f=ivscreen924.png)
Spotted this thing with the taxi... there's a spot that has another color, see image for details!

[Asif]

The image got tempered on that portion or is it some unusual reflection on the car?

[WiM]

Maybe, just maybe, it's the orange light of a trafficlight that reflects on the car?

[zim]

The tires look too big.

[Phil]

Maybe, just maybe, it's the orange light of a trafficlight that reflects on the car?

Not very likely.. you wouldn't be able to see the reflection from a signal in midday sunlight!

[WiM]

Was just a thought, though. I said maybe twice, that means it's unlikely, yet possible.

[Phil]

Was just a thought, though. I said maybe twice, that means it's unlikely, yet possible.

Dont ever think that again... !


;) we're cool.. :D

[AvatarMike17]

I've been doing some careful concentration, and I found something odd with the relitiveity of the Conde Nast Building and the Flatiron Building. Can someone please post in that thread, I can post all of the info there;)
Pleaseeee:D

[baleent]

On the new site, the picture of Vlad Glebov at the bar has a couple of pictures from Vice City on the wall behind the bar.

[Yam Trigger]

On the new site, the picture of Vlad Glebov at the bar has a couple of pictures from Vice City on the wall behind the bar.

I noticed them too. I can't wait to discover all the references to previous gta titles.
It should be hilarious.

[Asif]

I guess we haven't seen the Freeway or similar chopper yet. (Manny, 0:18)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4728/81760004es 2.th.png (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=81760004 es2.png)


No idea what's going on here - Manny chasing Niko or they are having a race or they are running scared from somebody.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7056/61629330bb 0.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=61629330 bb0.jpg)

[Phil]

I guess we haven't seen the Freeway or similar chopper yet. (Manny, 0:18)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4728/81760004es 2.th.png (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=81760004 es2.png)


No idea what's going on here - Manny chasing Niko or they are having a race or they are running scared from somebody.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7056/61629330bb 0.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=61629330 bb0.jpg)

If im not wrong, i believe we saw the freeway in trailer three..

http://xs224.xs.to/xs224/08071/freewayiv454.png (http://xs.to)

its at about 1:10 (+ a few secs) in #3

[Asif]

Oh yes, I totally forgot about this snap. :)

[FG]

Now the world is truly right, thanks Phil..an Asif a great relief. not the best bike maybe, but I like it when I explore;)

[LordLeverette]

I just realised something.. in the whiz video, there is someone on the phone driving-- and driving into a driveway. That tells you that people going home returns from SA (people park in homes) and now people talk on the phone while driving! I wonder if it will affect how people yell at you from their cars?

[Phil]

I just realised something.. in the whiz video, there is someone on the phone driving-- and driving into a driveway. That tells you that people going home returns from SA (people park in homes) and now people talk on the phone while driving! I wonder if it will affect how people yell at you from their cars?

Futher more, lets for the sake of... well..anyone, hope that people actually enter there homes, even if its just a generic entrance hall in every house, instead of just wandering off like in SA.

[WiM]

Hah, yeah, I hated that in SA. They park their car at random and wander of.
Or, they just go inside the house, sit down and watch tv. (You can see them through the window)

[LordLeverette]

Speaking of entering the homes, I hope robbing houses return as a way to make money.

[smoking12]

I never figured out how to rob homes in sa i only did it in the mission.

[Phil]

I was studying the screenshot thread, and noticed that there's two different versions of the Taxi and Police car.

Old Ford Crown Victoria style Taxi (My absolute favorite, I hope this stays in the final game along with a Civilian version of it!
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8480/pdvd017ux5 .th.png (http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pdvd017u x5.png)
New Chevrolet Impala style Taxi
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8729/majestic21 280x720qo1.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=majestic 21280x720qo1.jpg)

Old Ford Crown Victoria style Police
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/961/pdvd043pj5. th.png (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pdvd043p j5.png)
New Chevrolet Impala style police
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8729/majestic21 280x720qo1.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=majestic 21280x720qo1.jpg)

Either its just different builds of the game. or.. as i hope it is, its just as in real life, the Taxi and Police vehicle fleet hasn't been entirely replaced with the new Chevrolet Impala, so there's still quite a few Crown Vics in service..

And as i bolded... I WANT A CIVILIAN VERSION OF BOTH THE NEW AND OLD TAXI/POLICE! PLEASE!

[Asif]

These Chev. Impala styled police/taxis have been appearing in the recent screenshots, they were never seen before. I am beginning to suspect about the replacement.

[.:nemesis:.]

Just noticed in a screenshot about a reference to " BLDG 127 ", it's a reference to Microsoft...

It's just above the car roof...

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8917/pdvd009mo5 .th.png (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pdvd009m o5.png)

http://wikimapia.org/22348/

[Asif]

Awesome find! Can't surely say whether it was intentionally done by R*. :p

[Yam Trigger]

Good spot.
I think it might be intentionally done.

[Phil]

These Chev. Impala styled police/taxis have been appearing in the recent screenshots, they were never seen before. I am beginning to suspect about the replacement.

Aww... :( im afraid so.. I really hope rockstar read these boards.. and this thread... this post actually would be optimal!

[Asif]

Oh, how anyone could miss this black taxi!

http://www.isarapix.com/pix33/sm/1202884965.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix33/pre/12 02884965.jpg)

[Yam Trigger]

It was noticed first by Geddes in the vehicles thread.

Anybody else notice in the Vlad video that there's a different coloured taxi? I'm not sure if it's a new model though or just the colour,

[Asif]

Oh right, I did a search for 'Black taxi', thought of posting it because the search returned nothing.

[FG]

Yellow taxi, black taxi, anymore colors thats known.

[Yam Trigger]

Some people seem to think that the black taxi actually looks brown.

[FG]

I never heard that, but they are correct, it does look like a really dark brown,thats the main reason I posted on it.

[Yam Trigger]

I posted in the vehicles thread that it could possibly one of Roman's taxis. Maybe his taxis are a different color for easy identification or some other reason.

[Cutts]

Oh, how anyone could miss this black taxi!

http://www.isarapix.com/pix33/sm/1202884965.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix33/pre/12 02884965.jpg)


Johnson's Hot Dog Shop in the background? :dy:

[Yam Trigger]

Don't forget the advertisment on top of the taxi.

[Asif]

Johnson's Hot Dog Shop in the background? :dy:

Yeah, a returned reference from the 2nd trailer.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix87/sm/1202891293.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix87/pre/12 02891293.jpg)

[Yam Trigger]

Johnson's Hot Dog Shop in the background? :dy:

Possibly a reference to Carl Johnson.

[WiM]

Possible, Yam, but that's not sure, since a lot of people are called Johnson.

[Jimmy_86]

Reminds me of before SA was released the website mentioned "Alex's Hotdogs" which we know is just the "Hotdog" van from the game but people thought it may have been Alex Shrub, who's career had taken a turn for the worse.

[Cutts]

Ok, all this might have been noticed before, but I just watched the 2nd trailer again and I think i've got some ideas on the storyline.
"Your looking for some people" - First line in the trailer and we believe it is directed at Niko. This means Niko..... well.... hes looking for some people.
"Its been years... i've been searching..." This is Niko talking. It seems something must have happened back in the old country. Personally, I don't think the blur is speaking the truth. I think Niko came to Liberty City because he heard his "rival" had come here, and he is using the "visiting his cousin" excuse.
"..... I guarantee that you will find this man" I believe Niko is speaking to Roman here, the spotty shirt caught my eye. It seems Niko is anxious to find this person before "things get of out of hand".
"Please, no more killing." I can't decipher whether she is meaning to say "Why go on with this rivalry" or "Please don't kill me like you did to my friends a second ago". If its the former, she could be secretary or such. Note: She has an eastern european accent.
"We have to find him" Once again Niko is getting anxious.
"Fine, you got it! You want my word? You got my word." New York Accent. Niko must be asking people to help him find this "person". Either the man speaking is promising he won't let a secret out or he is promising that he will help Niko.
"I'm the one.. who survived." And yet we come back to suspicion of something bad happening back in the Old Country. A tradegy? Is this how his family was murdered? How did he survive?
"Get this done, and we'll talk." Niko must be accepting a mission. This man could possibly have information about the person, or could help Niko find the person. Who is this man?

So, there is my analysis of the Second trailer. It may all have been found before but I just wanted to share it with you. All roads point to what people have been saying. Something bad happened in the Old country and Niko is coming to Liberty City to find the person who did it.

[FG]

Johnson's Hot Dog Shop in the background? :dy:

Maybe wishful thinking on my part, but it seemed to me there was an implied connection between hotdogs stands an CJ, as he was the only character that had the ability to buy a dog.

Maybe CJ needed a quieter life, like a move back to Liberty City, selling Dogs, the American dream, have your own business. Un-likely, but an interesting twist, if its a small cameo type reference to him, remember, he'd be an older guy, heavier, remember, he had weight ( hehe) issues in SA ? what you think ?

EDIT : @ ^ Cutts...I really like your theory on the story-plot - line thing, its kinda what I've been thinking. I've had a few more ideas on how this might play out, its interesting and fun to try an find one that could fit in, with what we know, keep the ideas coming Phil, great stuff.

[Yam Trigger]

@Cutts
You've put some real thought into this storyline and I think you may be on the right track with your thinking.

[Phil]

http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08086/francisintl.559.png (http://xs.to)
I found this screen on the weazel news site.. i've called Asif up to extract it, so that'll be done once he gets on! Its most likely Francis Intl. airport

Car in background reminds me alot of the (new) Dodge Charger: I believe this was already pointed out!
http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08086/charger522.jpg (http://xs.to)

However!

This car here (in the background) is definetly a Lincoln Town Car!!! Not a lexus as someone mentioned!
http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08086/lincolntowncar613.j pg (http://xs.to)
Real life comparison!
http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08086/rltowncar243.jpg (http://xs.to)

[Cutts]

Phil, that Lincoln Town Car is so close in comparison its scary. Keep up the good work!

[WiM]

Wow, Phil, keen eye! Cars used to look alike, but now it seems like they just copied the cars.

[Asif]

Nice job Phil, that's definitely the car you have compared. By the way, I've replied your PM, Phil.
In case anyone else is wondering, as of now there's no such link available for larger version of the airport screen. Here's the straight link to the largest and only version available.

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/wet/weazelNews/thu mb_airport.jpg

[Phil]

Just saw this SUV...
http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08086/ivrangie621.jpg (http://xs.to)
Range Rover Sport, anyone?? the roof and body lines up just like the real thing!

real life comparison (even the rims seem to match up)
http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08086/realrangie867.jpg (http://xs.to)

--

also

The Ford Bronco strikes again...
http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08086/broncojoe300.jpg (http://xs.to)

real life comparison (matches even to the front grill)
http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08086/jim_ne_80fordbronco _rr361.jpg (http://xs.to)

[Asif]

Wish I had such knowledge in vehicles like yourself! :p

Can you spot these three? Also post them in the vehicles page thread (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t= 97374) if you feel to.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix68/sm/1203819579.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix68/pre/12 03819579.jpg) http://www.isarapix.com/pix55/sm/1203819589.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix55/pre/12 03819589.jpg) http://www.isarapix.com/pix8/sm/1203819793.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix8/pre/120 3819793.jpg)

[rappo]

lmao, asif... wtf is that last one? it looks like a blob :p
and yeah phil, you're very good at this. i think you should make one huge compilation of all your findings! (so its easier on me to add it to the vehicles page! heheh)

also the thing about different taxi sytles: im guessing the impala-style is a cabbie and the crown vic is just a regular taxi. not sure how to explain the police cars though

[Asif]

That looks like a Sabre from previous games to me, but I never knew about its real-life counterpart. :s

[iKlipse]

Wish I had such knowledge in vehicles like yourself! :p

Can you spot these three? Also post them in the vehicles page thread (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t= 97374) if you feel to.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix68/sm/1203819579.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix68/pre/12 03819579.jpg)

The blue SUV looks like a Cadillac Escalade. Landstalker maybe?


blood splatter on vehicles when you hit pedestrians with the vehicle. Can be seen in the Dilletante Teaser.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1579/bloodoe7.j pg

[victim]

Wish I had such knowledge in vehicles like yourself! :p

Can you spot these three? Also post them in the vehicles page thread (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t= 97374) if you feel to.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix68/sm/1203819579.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix68/pre/12 03819579.jpg) http://www.isarapix.com/pix55/sm/1203819589.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix55/pre/12 03819589.jpg) http://www.isarapix.com/pix8/sm/1203819793.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix8/pre/120 3819793.jpg)

I think the last one is actually a car with some short of sheet over it. This would avoid damage from weather, etc.

I've seen it done before and it would be cool to see it in the game.

[Phil]

I think the last one is actually a car with some short of sheet over it. This would avoid damage from weather, etc.

I've seen it done before and it would be cool to see it in the game.

its the sabre... from SA and VC... :) Also, i see that i kinda looks like it has a car cover over it.. but in the dillante teaser you can see its just two tone colored!

@Rappo... i made a collection of all my posts.. so call me up!

[rappo]

not sure if its been mentioned before, but i just noticed a cluckin bell in the back of this shot: http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 132.jpg

looks like burger shot isnt the only one returning. i also love the detail, there are even one way and Do Not Enter signs!

[Phil]

yeah a few of the latest screens has been very impressive details-wise...

oh and i noticed driverless-cars is hottest tendency in LC right now

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its some weird smoke theres going on under the front wheels of that garbage truck..

[The Shy Child.]

not sure if its been mentioned before, but i just noticed a cluckin bell in the back of this shot: http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 132.jpg

looks like burger shot isnt the only one returning. i also love the detail, there are even one way and Do Not Enter signs!

There is also a pro laps sign there.

[Jimmy_86]

There is also a pro laps sign there.
I just noticed that too :P I hadn't seen this one before.

Cluckin' Bell was confirmed in the first trailer Rappo. :ash:

[Yam Trigger]

I think that the guy dressed as the Cluckin' Bell chicken actually looks a bit like Niko.

[Phil]

I think that the guy dressed as the Cluckin' Bell chicken actually looks a bit like Niko.

:retardo2: he does look ALOT like niko.. same Five-O-Clock mustache

[Jimmy_86]

I think that the guy dressed as the Cluckin' Bell chicken actually looks a bit like Niko.
He does appear a bit similar.

Modeling side mission anyone? :smash:

[Phil]

Karin Dilletante.... anyone noticed that this is actually the first vehicle in a GTA that has a Maker, and a Model name? This suggests a whole lot IMO! Cars now actually have a manufacturer, and that manufacturer has different models.

[Yam Trigger]

Karin Dilletante.... anyone noticed that this is actually the first vehicle in a GTA that has a Maker, and a Model name? This suggests a whole lot IMO! Cars now actually have a manufacturer, and that manufacturer has different models.

It's good that Rockstar decided to have little details like this included in GTA IV. It going to really help to give the city life.

[Asif]

I think this was suggested in the trailer-2, the Stallion had 'Classique' in the front grill, and 'Stallion' on the rear bumper. May be 'Classique' here itself is the manufacturer?

http://www.isarapix.com/pix78/1204097049.png

[CB]

http://media.gtanet.com/images/4091_gta4_dont_litt er.jpg

Don't know if this is new or not but Pro Laps is back. Maybe we can play sports?

[Phil]

Image removed for quoting -Phil

Don't know if this is new or not but Pro Laps is back. Maybe we can play sports?

http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=174 1259&postcount=553 unfortunately.. but good find nonetheless

[BamBooUK]

The clocks change time in the Phil Bell video
3:00 O'clock
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8320/philbellcl ock1gtaivgz4.png

7:06 O'clock
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4553/philbellcl ock2gtaivaf2.png

notice the shadow change on the chair below the clock too

[Asif]

That's actually a great spotting, nice job. :)

[WiM]

Maybe that's 'before the mission' and 'after the mission' or something.

[5tatic]

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4233/71032546sd 1tf8.png

In this image, I noticed some weird things. The red boxed part of the image looks to be some kind of bandage. This makes me think that first aid kits or (health icons known in previous games) will lead to some kind of physical difference on the character, like the bandage showing.

As for the blue box, it looks like a bulletproof vest. It's not an icon here like previous GTAs. So i'm guessing that there's no more icons in this game. Money, guns, and miscellaneous will be presented by actual physical objects and not icons this time I guess.

Also, in this image; http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 146.jpg

People are carrying umbrellas. Firs time we've seen that in a GTA. Not only that, but the road has a sign posted 'Do not Enter' and apparently the cops are a bit more strict when it comes t road rules, so Niko may not be able to enter this road by car from this side.

[Phil]

Driving to Little Jacob's place is a painless and far smoother experience than it would've been in GTA III. Analogue acceleration on the triggers makes cruising around the streets a breeze. Halle-fucking-luja!!!

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Im back again..

The Sentinel: http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/vehicles/lux ury.jpg
is most likely a '07/'08 Lincoln MKZ http://www.dragtimes.com/images/10715-2007-Lincoln-MKZ.jpg

and, then, the car listed as "sedan" http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/vehicles/bla cksedan.jpg is just the Lincoln Town Car lookalike from the front.. though now when i see it against the towncar lookalike, it seems abit alike, with the front facia.. meh.. life really IS complicated!
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also, the car to the left (our left, niko's right) looks like a Merc S class.
http://xs124.xs.to/xs124/08094/060ag4722.png (http://xs.to)
comparison: http://images.getauto.com/vehicles/WDBN/WDBNG75J84 A428540-1.jpg the light really have the same shape.

[Yam Trigger]

Nice work, Phil.
I can't wait to drive those cars in IV.

[Phil]

this new screen.. http://www.isarapix.com/pix17/1204311939.jpg shows the elevated freeway... it does seem kinda high huh?

[Asif]

You can also see that strip club in the background, I bet it's at the southern tip (http://www.isarapix.com/pix90/1204315026.jpg) of Alderney, after all it has "Strip malls and condos."

[Phil]

You can also see that strip club in the background, I bet it's at the southern tip (http://www.isarapix.com/pix90/1204315026.jpg) of Alderney, after all it has "Strip malls and condos."

thats very likely.. theres a few stacks (smoke stacks... sigh! :D) that line up pretty good with your prediction.

[NikoteenBellic]

You can also see that strip club in the background, I bet it's at the southern tip (http://www.isarapix.com/pix90/1204315026.jpg) of Alderney, after all it has "Strip malls and condos."

Strip malls and strip clubs are two different things..

[Asif]

Strip malls and strip clubs are two different things..

Oh yes, my mistake on that one.

[Phil]

Heres another one i spotted in one of the new screens..

Its a quick PS mockup, so detail has not been put on first row, but you get the idea.. Its thumbnails, so CLICK!;)
http://xs225.xs.to/xs225/08096/ivpickupjpeg234.jpg .xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs225&d=08096&f=ivpickupjpeg234.jpg)
Real life comparison:
http://xs225.xs.to/xs225/08096/1953.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs225&d=08096&f=1953.jpg)

Cadillac Escalade SUT

Original picture: http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 150.jpg

[Asif]

Looks like the police (third one from viewer's left) is calling in for more reinforcement. Definitely looks cool. :)

http://www.isarapix.com/pix59/sm/1204401630.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix59/pre/12 04401630.jpg)

[gta4crazy1]

Heres another one i spotted in one of the new screens..

Its a quick PS mockup, so detail has not been put on first row, but you get the idea.. Its thumbnails, so CLICK!;)
http://xs225.xs.to/xs225/08096/ivpickupjpeg234.jpg .xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs225&d=08096&f=ivpickupjpeg234.jpg)
Real life comparison:
http://xs225.xs.to/xs225/08096/1953.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs225&d=08096&f=1953.jpg)

Cadillac Escalade SUT

Original picture: http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 150.jpg

I hope that in-game pic is just a horrible quality of the pickup, because if it isn't, that is sad

[DiscoBombs]

I hope that in-game pic is just a horrible quality of the pickup, because if it isn't, that is sad

He said it was a mock-up. It's shopped, don't worry about it.

[gta4crazy1]

Thats my bad then, didn't know what that word meant exactly.

[Asif]

Heres another one i spotted in one of the new screens..

Its a quick PS mockup, so detail has not been put on first row, but you get the idea.. Its thumbnails, so CLICK!;)
http://xs225.xs.to/xs225/08096/ivpickupjpeg234.jpg .xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs225&d=08096&f=ivpickupjpeg234.jpg)
Real life comparison:
http://xs225.xs.to/xs225/08096/1953.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs225&d=08096&f=1953.jpg)

Cadillac Escalade SUT

Original picture: http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 150.jpg

Is there some spoiler on the back of the Police car? That thing* looks somehow a little detached though. (in the original pic)

[Phil]

yeah theres a spoiler on the police car.. weird.. guess they have alot of high speed chases in LC nowadays.. :)

[Asif]

yeah theres a spoiler on the police car.. weird.. guess they have alot of high speed chases in LC nowadays.. :)

Ah, I'll now go through the screenshot archive, if I can find some rather particular police car as this. :)

[Phil]

none of the Crown Vic cop cars have spoilers either... weird...

[Asif]

Just found out it's the Chevrolet Impala type, you pointed out few days ago. :) Even the taxi of this type has the spoiler.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix60/sm/1204483359.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix60/pre/12 04483359.jpg)

[BamBooUK]

People get their umbrellas out when it rains.
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 146.jpg

[Phil]

People get their umbrellas out when it rains.
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 146.jpg

noticed before.. :)

[Asif]

Credits of finding this one goes to a user (LosSanVenturas) at GTAForums.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix25/1204494137.jpg

^The uniform of these cops resembles the New Jersey State Police uniforum. Making it obvious that the crime scene is at the NJ counterpart, Alderney. (Check the EGM preview topic (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t= 100117) for the full screenshot)

http://www.isarapix.com/pix21/1204494136.jpg

[Phil]

i guess that screen was taken on IV new jersey counterpart..

yo i need glasses! :D you already said that, exactly!

[Asif]

Yeah I edited already ;) Obviously it's from Alderney. I think those Impala type cop cars would only spawn around Alderney and partly in Algonquin (with the reference of the Majestic hotel pic). And, the Victoria type in Broker/Duke, Bohan and Algonquin. Just an assumption. :)

[Phil]

seems logical.. since those are the somewhat richer parts of the city.. compared to Bohan and Broker.. so their police precinct will have the older cop cars! (crown vic style cars)

taxis'll prolly be spread about randomly..

Here's an interesting read on NYC and its taxis.. as i pointed out earlier, the current Crown Vic fleet is being replaced, slowly, as we are seeing with the different taxis in LC. (impala, and crown vic)

isn't it just a beautiful american car.. http://www.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/77755/ca b_qjpreviewth.jpg ?

[Asif]

Yeah, it definitely is. Is the other type of (Blista look-alike) taxi in any competition with the crown vic?

http://www.isarapix.com/pix99/sm/1204533991.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix99/pre/12 04533991.jpg)

[Phil]

Dont know if its a competition.. I think its there to serve people in larger groups wanting to
travel together.. a regular nyc taxi can fit 2 adults, 3 if they squeeze, so the larger minivan like taxis provide space for 4-6 people excl. driver
http://jscms.jrn.columbia.edu/cns/2006-05-02/white-crownvic

[Mooby]

So I was thinking, you know how R* wants to have this game be pretty realistic, well in real life if you commit a crime and then you cross the border into another state the cops from the first state can't follow you across the border. Do you think that could happen in the game? I'm talking strictly about crossing from Alderney into Algonquin, since technically Alderney represents New Jersey. I could be wrong though since they aren't gonna be defining state lines in the game, Alderney may be representing New Jersey but since it counts as a part of the city they prob. won't bother with that.

[smoking12]

You could do that on the godfather but i doubt they have it because the previews said you escape the cops by getting aways from the square or triangle thing.

[Asif]

So I was thinking, you know how R* wants to have this game be pretty realistic, well in real life if you commit a crime and then you cross the border into another state the cops from the first state can't follow you across the border. Do you think that could happen in the game? I'm talking strictly about crossing from Alderney into Algonquin, since technically Alderney represents New Jersey. I could be wrong though since they aren't gonna be defining state lines in the game, Alderney may be representing New Jersey but since it counts as a part of the city they prob. won't bother with that.

All liberty city police cars carry the 'Liberty City State' plate, so I guess the whole city is opened for them to intercept the runaway criminals.

[FG]

Yeah I edited already ;) Obviously it's from Alderney. I think those Impala type cop cars would only spawn around Alderney and partly in Algonquin (with the reference of the Majestic hotel pic). And, the Victoria type in Broker/Duke, Bohan and Algonquin. Just an assumption. :)

A good assumption Asif, as R* had certain police vehicles in certain area's before, it looks as if they will continue this. An I'm also glad they're using the Impala, a great car. I think Phil got it right about the taxi's.

[Asif]

http://www.isarapix.com/pix54/sm/1204933565.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix54/pre/12 04933565.jpg)

"Mayor offers Manuel Escuella key to the city" (from the Packie trailer)

[Phil]

I spotted a bunch of new vehicles, i'll upload in a moment...
Mini Van thingy, seen in an earlier screenshot aswell, the one in my previous sig.
http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08106/ivscreen1586.jpg (http://xs.to)

Stretch Limo
http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08106/ivscreen2523.jpg (http://xs.to)

Motorcycle of some sort, and two modern pick up trucks
http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08106/ivscreen3479.jpg (http://xs.to)

Big ass parking space they got going on, lets hope its filled this time, unlike in SA
http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08106/ivscreen4656.jpg (http://xs.to)

[gta4crazy1]

don't know if anyone spotted it but the red car in Packie's vid is a feltzer, maybe a relation to the one in SA, except modernized. I don't have a pic though

[phexitol]

Two things to notice in this image:
http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix49/pre/120 4916322.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix49/pre/12 04916322.jpg)

(1) Upper right - thong-tha-thong thong thong...

(2) Between Nico's and the guy shooting at him's heads, slightly above there's a sign that reads "WTF".

Yes, there's also a Didier Sachs logo, but that's very obvious. There are also a few other signs, but they're impossible to read completely.

[Asif]

There's another view available of this WTF.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix60/sm/1205061179.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix60/pre/12 05061179.jpg)

[Cutts]

There's another view available of this WTF.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix60/sm/1205061179.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix60/pre/12 05061179.jpg)

"A Tale of Online Love".

[baleent]

Two things to notice in this image:
http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix49/pre/120 4916322.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix49/pre/12 04916322.jpg)

(1) Upper right - thong-tha-thong thong thong...

(2) Between Nico's and the guy shooting at him's heads, slightly above there's a sign that reads "WTF".

Yes, there's also a Didier Sachs logo, but that's very obvious. There are also a few other signs, but they're impossible to read completely.

And is that a police hummer or what behind him?

[Asif]

And it's in-game name would be "Police Mammoth"? (Some preview (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2 F%2Fwww.9lives.be%2Fgamepreview%2F107438%2Fgrand-theft-auto-iv&langpair=nl%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8) had suggested Hummer would be no longer known as 'Patriot', it's new name is Mammoth.) And, these will come after you when you're on 4 stars.

[FG]

Very appropriate name, really. The early Hummers w'ere smaller when GTAIII was made, now they do remind you of a * Mammoth*
I'm just happy they'er in, by any name. Thanks Asif.

[Uber_mike]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/vehicles/gre ylux.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/vehicles/gre enluxury.jpg
These look alot like the infernus from GTA:SA. (Honda/Acura NSX style body) thought i'd just give them a name for the vehicles section...

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i8/Uber_mike/bli stacom.png
also this looks like the blista compact (honda crx- even down to the writing on the side!) from VC and SA.

Both are from the hybrid car video (lol "chicks love electronic gadgets!")

[Phil]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/vehicles/gre ylux.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/vehicles/gre enluxury.jpg
These look alot like the infernus from GTA:SA. (Honda/Acura NSX style body) thought i'd just give them a name for the vehicles section...

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i8/Uber_mike/bli stacom.png
also this looks like the blista compact (honda crx- even down to the writing on the side!) from VC and SA.

Both are from the hybrid car video (lol "chicks love electronic gadgets!")

already been pointed out, and discussed

[Uber_mike]

already been pointed out, and discussed

Oh my bad... just saying neither are in the vehicles section...

[Yam Trigger]

Very appropriate name, really. The early Hummers w'ere smaller when GTAIII was made, now they do remind you of a * Mammoth*
I'm just happy they'er in, by any name. Thanks Asif.

I actually prefer the car being called a Patriot rather than a Mammoth.

[swallowed]

In the trailer for Packie McReary, there is a shot of Packie sitting down with a newspaper next to him. The headline is "Mayor Offers Manuel Escuella Key to the City"

[FG]

Yeah, thats true swallowed, he is an up an coming tough guy, community leader. An that fits his personna to be with a news story about city affairs. I don't know what to make of it...good job swallowed.

[Asif]

Noticed some sketches of people's faces in the LCPD recruitment video, the location is near the Star Junction (real-life Times Square). I don't if there really are sketch artists around the Times square in real life.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix33/sm/1205244882.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix33/pre/12 05244882.jpg)

[rappo]

Oh for sure, those people are all over popular walking places in America. Even more popular are "charicature" artists who will draw cartoony versions of you, with one part of you exagerrated (like if you have a slightly big nose they'll make it huge, or if you have a big smile it'll take up your entire face, etc). I doubt they will have much meaning in the game, but it's a nice touch to add to the detail of the city.

[washablemarker]

did you guys already discuss the helicopter off in the distance of this screen:

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/screens/076.jpg

that's some damn good draw distance, no?

[Yam Trigger]

did you guys already discuss the helicopter off in the distance of this screen:

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/screens/076.jpg

that's some damn good draw distance, no?

That is simply amazing. It looks like choppers in IV can go very high.

[Asif]

Can't be certain if that is a helicopter, but the height limit has been raised (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?p= 1738889#post1738889) much more than in SA.

[Luciphear]

If there is any type of free-roam co-op, I'm so going to do a fly-by with a friend or so. Hopefully he'll jump out of the helicopter when we're high up in the air just so that I can watch and laugh at his dead body afterwards. :smash:

[baleent]

If there is any type of free-roam co-op, I'm so going to do a fly-by with a friend or so. Hopefully he'll jump out of the helicopter when we're high up in the air just so that I can watch and laugh at his dead body afterwards. :smash:

Or get under him n chop 'em up.

[Asif]

Thought I'd share this one by k1x in the GTAForums, great find.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix40/1205391013.jpg

[LordLeverette]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 167.jpg

72: It's Back

24 Ripoff anybody?

[Asif]

I think it was quite obvious to notice the mock when this screen aired this Friday. :p

[LordLeverette]

Well.. lets just say I put it here for the people that didnt notice.
*runs away*

[piecake]

Something i noticed in the Dilletante Teaser at the start it seams that there is an oil refinery which looks very very eatern european akin to stalker call of duty etc. Rockstar would not build a total environment like that for a two second piece of a teaser. So my thought is that there will be ether flashback type missions or story cut seens set in Nicko's home country. But alot more likely DLC for 360 Houser said did he not that vice city was basicly an expansion to III so i think that all us 360 owners will be taking a trip too the eastern block! please message me with screen caps so i can add too this post or future ones!

[Phil]

Something i noticed in the Dilletante Teaser at the start it seams that there is an oil refinery which looks very very eatern european akin to stalker call of duty etc. Rockstar would not build a total environment like that for a two second piece of a teaser. So my thought is that there will be ether flashback type missions or story cut seens set in Nicko's home country

Ehm.. what would that Karin Dilletante then do in a flashback? Oil refineries look old, because they were first made more than 100years ago. With the first largest one opening in 1856.

[Asif]

I bet those refiners are same as these (http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/screens/076.jpg) seen in distant, these are at the southern tip of Alderney (http://www.isarapix.com/pix26/1205429600.jpg).

[Phil]

There's something i'd bet on! :)

[TomFratelli]

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6313/burger2128 01fac788gr7.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=burger21 2801fac788gr7.jpg)


It Appears That That Guy Is Opening a Trunk, dont know if im the first one to notice this but i will have fun pushing them into their car when they are opening it :)

[Jose]

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6313/burger2128 01fac788gr7.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=burger21 2801fac788gr7.jpg)


It Appears That That Guy Is Opening a Trunk, dont know if im the first one to notice this but i will have fun pushing them into their car when they are opening it :)

Saw that a while ago.

Anyways I doubt it's new but I was browsing through Grand Theft Auto's pages and I've seeing various things to notice...
All wall clocks I've seen in the videos and pictures have different hours, they might be useful.
Stumbled upon Packie McReary's video (http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/#?page=packieMcre ary&content=video0) and saw that after the car (which is by the way named Feltzer that seems to be new to GTA) hits the cop's car the car's bumper and headlights looked very similar to a real crash and not as the last GTA's. When Packie shoots at the patrol car the window tears into pieces.pic (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/CJ-Boy/gtamerge.jpg)
On the first picture of him it's clearly visible too that he just got splattered with blood, presumed to be from the broken crystal.

Then I went to Phil Bells video. There was a car explosion there and it looked very realistic. You can also see FBI are very classy, black cars, black rims, they use suits... while shooting what looked like an M4.pic (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/CJ-Boy/gtafbi.jpg)

On Roman Bellic's car shop you can read two phone numbers (555-2222 & 555-3333) and "24 HRS" this tells me that you can either call Roman for a car service or go there and that'll be something like a pay and spray. Seeing him drunk is fun, maybe people will laugh at you when you're drunk.

On Vlad Glebov's picture you can see several photos that appear to be from Vice City. And that seems to be his bar because you can see a picture of him on a wall... in an superman-like pose. They get a birdie from a taxi driver as they cross in front of him.

I have to go now but I'll be back in about an hour with more to say.

Edit: Can any mod make the pics a thumbnail, been away from here for a while, meanwhile I'll make them links.

More info:
Gillette Fusion parody? (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/CJ-Boy/GTAexcelsior9.jpg)
The bittersweet will seemingly have a game- "(...) or just when you are just about to get your highest score on our crappy wall-building game"
On the Love-Meet page, on featured profiles there's a profile(higherbeing25) whose location is Vice City, maybe another spoiler you can go there?

[Tendercrisp]

Then I went to Phil Bells video. There was a car explosion there and it looked very realistic. You can also see FBI are very classy, black cars, black rims, they use suits... while shooting what looked like an M4.pic (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/CJ-Boy/gtafbi.jpg)


Nice observation, buy judging by their vests, and the lack of coats on their suits, they look more like mafioso than FBI.

EDIT: I noticed that in Phil Bell's video, when he hit the guy with the bat, it was right by a cop car.

Nothing big. Just something I noticed. Nice blood effects though. :O

http://i29.tinypic.com/w8qo36.png

[Asif]

Hehe, may be the cops will turn a blind eye before for mafioso Phil.

[Cutts]

Or maybe... Phil works for the cops?

[Yam Trigger]

If you look in the top left corner of this screenshot you can see that FlyUS are offering deals to fly to Las Venturas.
It's very unlikely that Niko will go to Venturas, but it is still cool to see that reference.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2097/venturaste 9.jpg

[FG]

@ yam...is it so far fetched? NewYork (LC) bosses love to go to LV, to gamble an make deals, get contracts from gang bosses, could be just in a cutsecene a breif mission thing, maybe.

[Yam Trigger]

What I wouldn't give to have another mission like "Saint Mark's Bistro".

[FG]

What I wouldn't give to have another mission like "Saint Mark's Bistro".

Right on...it could be R* created a tradition with the bistro trip, an hoping they will think so, aswell.
remember how much fun that was ?

[dizzleman]

it seems like alot of the photos being release have Niko wit some sort of blood stain on his clothes....or is this juss me

[Asif]

FlyUS was seen earlier about advertising for flying to Vice City (http://www.isarapix.com/pix57/1204927006.jpg). I wouldn't wonder if you could find SF/LS being advertised by them in-game.

[claud3]

cool flyus to carecer city because i would love to go there and do a bank job like in the gta 3 intro with niko and cluade

[Jack_Daniels08]

omg, this is awsome, i wld have never noticed any of these..this is awsome, this is making me more impatient for release day!:dy:

[claud3]

me to all these images and trailers and the things we have noticed all this and we have to waite

April 29 come quick

[FG]

FlyUS was seen earlier about advertising for flying to Vice City (http://www.isarapix.com/pix57/1204927006.jpg). I wouldn't wonder if you could find SF/LS being advertised by them in-game.

Thanks Asif, for the link:) appears many GTA cities are in the adds.

[Asif]

You're welcome, FG!

cool flyus to carecer city because i would love to go there and do a bank job like in the gta 3 intro with niko and cluade

That bank job WAS in Liberty City, it just couldn't be a part of the original map during the gameplay.

[FG]

You're welcome, FG!



That bank job WAS in Liberty City, it just couldn't be a part of the original map during the gameplay.

I would love for Niko to re-rob that Bank, what say you?:)

[Asif]

Ah, there sure would be some bank robbery as I am getting the picture of it from several screenies. ;)

[FG]

That would sure be popular, an most likly be a big event, if Niko re-robbed that same bank...along with the others you mentioned.

[Asif]

You can leave behind the bank that GTA III used, :p it's completely new Liberty City. I think the bank most likely to get robbed in IV is 'Bank of Liberty'. (possible teaser/in-game website: http://www.libertycitybank.com/)

http://www.isarapix.com/pix35/sm/1205862115.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix35/pre/12 05862115.jpg)

[claud3]

Ok ok true true I was mistaken

[Jose]

Most likely this was truly confirmed, even by Rockstar but motorcycles are back: pic (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/CJ-Boy/gtachopper.jpg)

[piecake]

Noticed some sketches of people's faces in the LCPD recruitment video, the location is near the Star Junction (real-life Times Square). I don't if there really are sketch artists around the Times square in real life.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix33/sm/1205244882.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix33/pre/12 05244882.jpg)


I noticed in the stand as well that there is what appears too be a copy of vice city next too the fingers

[claud3]

nice spot of the vice city fingers

[FG]

You can leave behind the bank that GTA III used, :p it's completely new Liberty City. I think the bank most likely to get robbed in IV is 'Bank of Liberty'. (possible teaser/in-game website: http://www.libertycitybank.com/)

http://www.isarapix.com/pix35/sm/1205862115.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix35/pre/12 05862115.jpg)

Woah ! I've seen that link before... it really looks legit, I guess not even one, old GTAIII bldg. will make it in, even as an easter-egg or something, ohh well... time to move on. Its a whole new world out there.

edit: ohh, on a slim chance...look anyways, an +rep for anyone who spots even a close look alike;)

[Asif]

That link is under construction and registered (http://whois.domaintools.com/libertycitybank.com) to Take2 (parent of R* games), we can hope for its activation in very near future. ;)

[claud3]

Cool it is a R* webpage Maybe it will be their for the amount of money you have and you can spend your gta money their

to unlock secrets, cheats, cars etc...

[Jose]

On Niko's PDF(wanted paper) it says Niko is wanted for a shootout at a night club in Hove Beach, Broker. Maybe it's a small hint that one of the first missions will be like this. Also it says something about a Detective Moeller. Maybe will be killing him sometime during the game.

Couldn't find anything more interesting on those PDFs.

[Tendercrisp]

I was messing about on google earth, and I found a place called "The Stonewall Bar" in New York City, that just-so-happens to resemble the Steinway Beer Garden in terms of theme, but not location.

EDIT: Come to think of it, it doesn't really look that much like the Steinway Beer Garden.

[claud3]

google earth is a great way to map out the map for the game so give it a go and lets see what the map will look like i am going to give it a go

[FG]

That link is under construction and registered (http://whois.domaintools.com/libertycitybank.com) to Take2 (parent of R* games), we can hope for its activation in very near future. ;)

:Pdo this mean we can have a savings account in Liberty City? Woah ! that'd be cool.

edit: wonder about the interest rate,hehe.

[Phil]

:Pdo this mean we can have a savings account in Liberty City? Woah ! that'd be cool.

edit: wonder about the interest rate,hehe.

maybe not savings account, but ATMs were confirmed...

[FG]

maybe not savings account, but ATMs were confirmed...

o my, sorry I was not clear on this, I was looking for free checking, a real life account with savings passbook and all , with the Bank of Liberty City, :D

edit: for myself, not Niko.

[zeppelin]

Did yall see tha bruises on the new screenshot? That is wicked graphics right there.

[Yam Trigger]

I liked seeing those bruises. I can't wait to give someone a black eye.

[Cold]

I liked seeing those bruises. I can't wait to give someone a black eye.

I can't wait to give someone two. :D

[claud3]

same here it might just be the screenshots only but if it appers in the game then bring it on

[phlipp]

it cant be a chainsaw, because R* stated that weapons won't be rotating a few feet off the ground, they will be lying right on the ground.

[Yam Trigger]

same here it might just be the screenshots only but if it appers in the game then bring it on

Why would Rockstar put it in a screenshot if it isn't going to be in the game?

[Jose]

Why would Rockstar put it in a screenshot if it isn't going to be in the game?

Exactly, they wouldn't let us down.

[Asif]

same here it might just be the screenshots only but if it appers in the game then bring it on

According to an article (http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=170968 ) I came accross (via gta4.net), almost half of the screens are from gameplay.

[Phil]

According to an article (http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=170968 ) I came accross (via gta4.net), almost half of the screens are from gameplay.

Read it? it dosn't say that... they're purely speculating whether some of the screens released to far are in-game or not.. they're senior editor says the graphics in-game are beautiful, but thats not really any confirm

[Asif]

The newly released screens by way of the game's official website seemingly depict cut sequences only, as have other images released so far.

I don't know whether it's purely speculation, they indeed have played and seen the build, they should know the difference.

[Phil]

I don't know whether it's purely speculation, they indeed have played and seen the build, they should know the difference.

Yeah i guess... but looks can be deceiving :D

[smooth]

The latest OPM reveiled one of the collectables. When they shot down a pidgeon a message popped up: flying rats killed: 1 of 200

Rockstart replied: "You weren't supposed to find that out so soon."

[Phil]

http://www.isarapix.com/pix33/sm/1205244882.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix33/pre/12 05244882.jpg)

Also in this shot, some of the GTA3 characters seem to be some of the drawings on the stand in the background.

[Havok]

http://www.isarapix.com/pix33/sm/1205244882.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix33/pre/12 05244882.jpg)

Also in this shot, some of the GTA3 characters seem to be some of the drawings on the stand in the background.

Like who? I can't really make it out.
but damnit that guy with the long hair, middle top, looks like Anton Chirugh from No Country For Old Men

[Yam Trigger]

The latest OPM reveiled one of the collectables. When they shot down a pidgeon a message popped up: flying rats killed: 1 of 200

Rockstart replied: "You weren't supposed to find that out so soon."

I can't wait to start killing some flying rats.

[sb4ap]

has any1 noticed in the screenshot where you can see part of the HUD that in the far left there is a san andreas reference, vinewood laundromat

[FG]

I can't wait to start killing some flying rats.

Anyone confirmed this yet ?

200 collectibles, thats a large number, wonder if the animal rights people will raise hell, over dead birds.?

btw....@ yam, a nice sig. there.

[baleent]

I recall being able to shoot seagulls way back in MGS: Something or other, and several other games. I don't see why not. Maybe you can kill animals if they attack you like the dogs do in CoD 4.


Edit: Or maybe the hidden object is rats with wings that fly around specific areas.

[Yam Trigger]

It says that they shot a pigeon. Maybe they are rare in Liberty City (unlike New York), where as seagulls are more common.

[Phil]

It says that they shot a pigeon. Maybe they are rare in Liberty City (unlike New York), where as seagulls are more common.

I dont think they're rare, i just think they're a bitch to hit, like in previous GTA's

[claud3]

True but Seagull's were rare but now will can see them better now it will be easer to hit now so in the stats their will be the old school ( Seagull Sniped )

[Ash_735]

I recall being able to shoot seagulls way back in MGS: Something or other, and several other games. I don't see why not. Maybe you can kill animals if they attack you like the dogs do in CoD 4.


Edit: Or maybe the hidden object is rats with wings that fly around specific areas.

You could shoot Rats in MGS, Seagulls in MGS2, Any damn animal in MGS3, Guard Dogs in Hitman, the Attack Dogs in COD4, etc, etc. It's just because it's GTA it automatically attracts negative attention, if you could kill a dog in GTA, PETA would have a field day.

[AvatarMike17]

^True

Im sure they will bring back the Seagulls sniped abillity, but why would you spend a lot of time killing birds, this game offers more than that. My question is if we can kill fish.

[FG]

@ tony....from the screenshots, it appears the water may be to merky to see the fish, but prehaps Niko will have the * gone fishing * feature, you think?

[AvatarMike17]

Hmm, Im not sure what you mean, like what kinda fishing?

[FG]

Well ..I was thinking, since GTA games have pastime feature's, a new one would be fishing, like maybe deepsea fishing, Niko could go out aways an drop a line, an catch a big fish , an your acheivments would go up on how many fish you catch.

[Yam Trigger]

It probably wouldn't fit well into a GTA game, but I like the idea of fishing.

[AvatarMike17]

I like it FG. I also like the idea of Jimbo fishing

[FG]

I like it FG. I also like the idea of Jimbo fishing

Jimbo fishing ? uhh.. ok tony, I'm a bit dumb about fishing, but I'm curious as to what Jimbo fishing is ? plzz explain:)

edit : btw....just so you know, I would prefer pastimes not to count for 100% completion, tho. Just something to do, to relax...

get my mind off the missions, heal my soul from all the countless peds I've destroyed, you know it takes a toll on ones nerves, all that senseless slaughter an mayhem.:P

[AvatarMike17]

Stan then finds Jimbo, Ned, and Kenny fishing with grenades, and tells them that Cartman is missing, forcing them to cut their fishing short with a rocket.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcano_%28South_Park _episode%29

[FG]

Jimbo fishing ? uhh.. ok tony, I'm a bit dumb about fishing, but I'm curious as to what Jimbo fishing is ? plzz explain:)

edit : btw....just so you know, I would prefer pastimes not to count for 100% completion, tho. Just something to do, to relax...

get my mind off the missions, heal my soul from all the countless peds I've destroyed, you know it takes a toll on ones nerves, all that senseless slaughter an mayhem.:P

@ tony....ohhh ...k I love it ! ! grenade fishing, now thats one I've heard of:P cool.

[AvatarMike17]

edit : btw....just so you know, I would prefer pastimes not to count for 100% completion, tho. Just something to do, to relax...


Like the Beach Ball game in VC!

[FG]

Jimbo fishing ? uhh.. ok tony, I'm a bit dumb about fishing, but I'm curious as to what Jimbo fishing is ? plzz explain:)

edit : btw....just so you know, I would prefer pastimes not to count for 100% completion, tho. Just something to do, to relax...

get my mind off the missions, heal my soul from all the countless peds I've destroyed, you know it takes a toll on ones nerves, all that senseless slaughter an mayhem.:P

I've notice R* has tried to develop better pastimes, this time around, just as long as its not for 100%.
They should be reserved for relaxation, get your mind off the genocide...ya know? yeah beach ball, maybe;)

[RedAvery]

Be sure you notice me staring at your ride with an ak or a bat.

[Phil]

I just saw on one of the new IVmap screens, that a way of transportation is "By Car Service" now to those of you who dont know what that is.. its basically a private chauffeur in a big car driving you around... NICE!

[baleent]

Hell yeah, hopefully a limo. Mammoth Limo!

[AvatarMike17]

Wow, the actual map today, the IVth trailer tommorow, I wonder what R* has for us on Friday:D

[claud3]

maybe they will invite us all to have a drink a driving contest

[baleent]

Thats a really bad idea.

[claud3]

Thats a really bad idea.

ok sorry but not in real life but in the game

[baleent]

Yeah that would be hilarious but you know what would be even better?

A drunken brawl and/or gunfight. Imagine this group of drunks tryin to fight each other.

[claud3]

That would be awsome and then we try and run from the cops in a straight line while shooting a rocket launcher

[Phil]

Just wanted to catch up on the whole Alderney state subject..

If you look at the first of the subway maps, map4.jpeg for those of you who saved them, look at the top left corner, it does infact state Alderney to be situated next to Algonquin with only the west river seperating them... its not a state, its just one of the boroughs!

[FG]

A lot of states are seperated by a river an what is it with this Alderney state correction facilty? I dont get it. Actually I'm not totally sold on it being a state, its just there is so much pointing that way.

[Yam Trigger]

I thought Rockstar had moved past states in GTA games.

ohh well...

[Phil]

I thought Rockstar had moved past states in GTA games.

ohh well...

I just dont see where the so called 'state' should be situated.. the map leaked seems to be the real deal, so why wouldn't it be on that map..

[baleent]

Because it's not the whole state. Adlerney is in a different state, but its just one city.

Hell, it might just be one part of a city.

[claud3]

It is not a state like the ones in S.A it is the extented version of the gta 3 liberty city. Places we had not seen before like the staute of happeness etc... it is not the whole State of liberty city but maybe half of it

[NikoteenBellic]

Vladivostock- Vostock is a cheap russian vodka.
Just thought I'd point that out while waiting for trailer for to be realesed. tick.. tock... tick... tock...

[AvatarMike17]

New Trailer, Holes in Helies, and boats

Bunch of new views of Star Junction

[lufc1919]

How gorgeous was that fucking lambo :O

[Matthew]

Nice pic of the subway system behind the cops during the shootout in the subway.

[jascando]

How gorgeous was that fucking lambo :O

UMMMMMMM, i splooged myself thats how gorgeous

[claud3]

here is my find http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 231.jpg

[jascando]

here is my find http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 231.jpg


yeah i like that, i saw alot of his suits were alike just diff colors, do we just change outfits like in vice city, or tops, legs, etc. like SA?

[claud3]

I have read the reviews and they say you can walk into a clothes store like binco and pick the clothes up one by one so you pick up a coat and then you can go and pick up shoes etc...

[AvatarMike17]

Wow, in that pic we see alot more of the piers and the El Train.

[jascando]

I have read the reviews and they say you can walk into a clothes store like binco and pick the clothes up one by one so you pick up a coat and then you can go and pick up shoes etc...

so in a nutshell is it like VC or SA

[claud3]

ok yes but you do not have to always go into the changing room everytime you want to try something expect in vice city were you walk into the icon. But in this one like S.A you choose what you want to wear but in a easer way

[jascando]

ok yes but you do not have to always go into the changing room everytime you want to try something expect in vice city were you walk into the icon. But in this one like S.A you choose what you want to wear but in a easer way


mmk, ill just have to shop and see;)

[NikoteenBellic]

At the end of trailer 4, after the rewind of screens, You can see two ads behind Niko that look like they are for T.V. shows. One is Conjoined Twins and the other is Medicate Me.

Since in game t.v. has been confirmed with over 2 hours of footage, I wonder if these shows will be veiwable.

When the chopper is going down, I noticed another show called I'm Rich on a channel called CNT.

[Olin]

There's a TV inside of the limo Niko is riding in, along with a woman.

[Asif]

Yeah, the TV screen has a still image of big sea-waves probably.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix51/1206662497.jpg

[AvatarMike17]

Sweeeet, watching TV while doing a drive by, now if only we had a Rocket launcher:D

[THEnterprize]

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2365/gta1vvm3.j pg (http://imageshack.us)
Could this mean that you can ride as a passenger rather than just driving?

[claud3]

cool. I wonder if you do a crime and then go to your safe house put on the t.v possible and watch the news and it has reported what you did that would be cool

[Uber_mike]

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2365/gta1vvm3.j pg (http://imageshack.us)
Could this mean that you can ride as a passenger rather than just driving?

yeah, i think its been stated before...

i just noticed in the video how "un-detailed" the chick looks... her skin looks gta:sa-ish, and her arms are floating above her legs...

also i dont think its a tv as much as it looks... it appears stuck in the wall and it may just be to spice up the interior as a static image...

[randomhero]

yeah, i think its been stated before...

i just noticed in the video how "un-detailed" the chick looks... her skin looks gta:sa-ish, and her arms are floating above her legs...

also i dont think its a tv as much as it looks... it appears stuck in the wall and it may just be to spice up the interior as a static image...

its probably just the picture makes it look like that...

[TheProgrammer]

Seen the video. It's awesome. Pitty that R* never made a InGame Footage. Shame!

[Phil]

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2365/gta1vvm3.j pg (http://imageshack.us)
Could this mean that you can ride as a passenger rather than just driving?

Actually, on the leaked maps a 'way of transportation' was 'car service' which in NYC is a private driver, taking you whereever you want to go, and waiting for you untill you say where you want to go next.

[Asif]

Seen the video. It's awesome. Pitty that R* never made a InGame Footage. Shame!

70% of the trailer was gameplay footage.

During my visit with the Rockstar folks yesterday they told me that about 70 percent of the video was actual gameplay footage. Yes, that chase scene is actual footage. It took one of their guys hours to perfect that high-speed 180.

http://kotaku.com/373344/final-gta-iv-trailer-analysis

[THEnterprize]

Actually, on the leaked maps a 'way of transportation' was 'car service' which in NYC is a private driver, taking you whereever you want to go, and waiting for you untill you say where you want to go next.

thanks for tellin me, good to know, thats pretty cool

[Asif]

This AutoEroticar is definitely at Alderney, with the look of the police uniform (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17 44391&postcount=586).

http://www.isarapix.com/pix20/sm/1206727863.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix20/pre/12 06727863.jpg)

[claud3]

Very nice indeed dude

[Phil]

This AutoEroticar is definitely at Alderney, with the look of the police uniform (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17 44391&postcount=586).

http://www.isarapix.com/pix20/sm/1206727863.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix20/pre/12 06727863.jpg)

Its a bit weird name for an car dealer... but i guess, what ever floats your boat! :D

[DiscoBombs]

Vladivostock- Vostock is a cheap russian vodka.
Just thought I'd point that out while waiting for trailer for to be realesed. tick.. tock... tick... tock...

Vladivostok is also a city on Russia's eastern seaboard, click. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladivostok)

[ska]

Its a bit weird name for an car dealer... but i guess, what ever floats your boat! :D

I'm great at stating at the obvious so it's like Auto Erotica, hahaha ;)

[Tenk.z.price@gm]

You can see in the first seconds of the trailer (the train scene) that there is a placard (big printed images) that shows: Vice City 300$. That "maybe" means that you can visit Vice City(hopefully)

the second thing ive noticed is that we have a new mean of transport, between 30 and 35 seconds look to the transport moving on the other side of the bridge

Possibly having to do with the downloadable content? it's entirely possible that vice city or SA could be the downloadable content hitting the 360, although it would seem unfair to PS3 owners

[Havok]

Possibly having to do with the downloadable content? it's entirely possible that vice city or SA could be the downloadable content hitting the 360, although it would seem unfair to PS3 owners


No, it won't. The DLC will be extra missions and such.

[Phil]

Possibly having to do with the downloadable content? it's entirely possible that vice city or SA could be the downloadable content hitting the 360, although it would seem unfair to PS3 owners

Uhhh, just no..

[Asif]

Another glimpse of the Hummer police, wish it was nearer to the scene.

http://www.isarapix.com/pix78/sm/1207011172.jpg (http://www.isarapix.com/my.php?isara=pix78/pre/12 07011172.jpg)

[piecake]

Police hummer in the shot of all the police out side
PCJ 900f in the above shot!

[WiM]

Police hummer in the shot of all the police out side
PCJ 900f in the above shot!

You mean: NRG 900F

EDIT: I don't know if this has been pointed out (and sorry if it has), but the motorcycles have mirrors. In previous GTA's they didn't.
http://hataraku-kuruma.com/img/bike/pcj-600.jpg

[claud3]

nice point mate that is true

[AvatarMike17]

I think that that billboard says Escobar Sky.com

Can anyone tell what it is?

[swallowed]

http://www.isarapix.org/pix78/1207011172.jpg

^ In that shot?

If you mean that pic than the first world is Excel and something like slor on the end of it.

[AvatarMike17]

Oh, thanks Swallow, it says Excelsor

[Conjo]

Actually, it says Excelsior. You can clearly make out the i in it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excelsior

[Asif]

Haha, that looks to be some sanitary tools brand from that far.

[AvatarMike17]

well, that makes sense, New Yorks motto is Excelsior

[redninja216]

well, that makes sense, New Yorks motto is Excelsior

its the 9 bladed razor.

[dizzleman]

in the new gamespot video at 18 secs those guys are stealing the car from the eroticar dealer place...i would do a prnt screen but iunno how to sry

[Jose]

Yes, they smash it's window and get in. You can also see a body floating in the water and a pedestrian getting rammed, which looked amazing.

[Asif]

in the new gamespot video at 18 secs those guys are stealing the car from the eroticar dealer place...i would do a prnt screen but iunno how to sry

Just made a gif out of that.

http://www.isarapix.org/pix6/1207169577.gif (1.25 MB)

[claud3]

nice gif asif well done dude

[Cutts]

I wonder if that happens as we're walking by. That would be so cool.

[Asif]

Am I seeing a body (within red circle) falling down? :0

http://www.isarapix.org/pix43/sm/1207179397.jpg (http://www.isarapix.org/my.php?isara=pix43/pre/12 07179397.jpg)

[randomhero]

Am I seeing a body (within red circle) falling down? :0

http://www.isarapix.org/pix43/sm/1207179397.jpg (http://www.isarapix.org/my.php?isara=pix43/pre/12 07179397.jpg)

That is a body falling down!

[claud3]

well stopped asif you have great eyes

[dizzleman]

Just made a gif out of that.

http://www.isarapix.org/pix6/1207169577.gif (1.25 MB)

nice gif indeed asif

[MrXakaRebel]

http://gtaplanet.gamigo.de/content/images/screensh ots/gta4/ss//102_gtaplanet-de-exklusive.jpg

if you look close in this pic you can see its from a point of view thats in the backseat of the car... you can see thie little lines on the back windshield , thats crazy detail right there. Also notice the damage on the car and the convincingly limp corpse... pretty amazing, not to mention niko's bad ass suit

[claud3]

Am I seeing a body (within red circle) falling down? :0

http://www.isarapix.org/pix43/sm/1207179397.jpg (http://www.isarapix.org/my.php?isara=pix43/pre/12 07179397.jpg)

asif have you seen the secruity cameras beside the falling body maybe they work in this game

[Asif]

asif have you seen the secruity cameras beside the falling body maybe they work in this game

Yes, CC cameras will do work in the game, there's been mention of functioning cameras in the subway.

[claud3]

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/ 863/863435/grand-theft-auto-iv-20080331032333626_640w.jpg

if you look at niko's ass it shows he has being shot there that got to hurt

[Asif]

Haha, there's been couple of screenshots showing bullet wounds in that particular body part, such as this one...

http://www.isarapix.org/pix30/sm/1207279054.jpg (http://www.isarapix.org/my.php?isara=pix30/pre/12 07279054.jpg)

[FG]

ahhaha...I busted a gut seeing Niko shot in the bun, I never dreamed he'd ever get hit in that spot:P Thanks Asif.

[.LiLe.]

Am I seeing a body (within red circle) falling down? :0

http://www.isarapix.org/pix43/sm/1207179397.jpg (http://www.isarapix.org/my.php?isara=pix43/pre/12 07179397.jpg)

Good spot, probably a explosion was the cause of the flying body.

[Asif]

Could be the return of suicidal peds from SA, you never know! ;)

[claud3]

that would be cool to see the suicidal peds return

[LordLeverette]

Anyone notice, that whatever you think of Liberty City's size, it's going to feel bigger than SA. Think about it. You can finally climb up fire escapes, you can climb buildings. Places with interiors stretch all the way to the roof. The game is going to be amazing horizontally, but how about vertically?

[claud3]

i know it will be awsome

[baleent]

I was doing one of my Ethnic Studies packets about the Native Americans in school yesterday. I noticed a tribe it was talking about from the New York area known as the Algonquians. Thought that was interesting.

[claud3]

ok strange info dude

[jaybay20000]

no... if you look at why some cities and some places in the game are called what they are some of the names happen to be indian tribes just like in NY because alot of long island towns are named after indian tribes like Montauk, Massapequa, and theres alot more anyone from NY knows wha im talkin about

[bonesmccoy]

No, that's a fine point. The Algonquins were a huge tribe whose nomadic existence took them from modern day New York to Northeast Ontario. Manhattan of course is the name of a tribe of natives.

[claud3]

ok that is good info sorry for saying strange info

[piecake]

Do we know if there will be a parachute?

[Luciphear]

Do we know if there will be a parachute?

I think they confirmed there won't be any parachutes..

[FG]

Could be the return of suicidal peds from SA, you never know! ;)

NYC(LC) is well kown for bridge jumpers an such, so it is a good bet...R* loves to spoof these cultural odities.

[Blackninja]

flawed bungee jumps wuld b hilarious!!

[LordLeverette]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 260.jpg

MR. WONGS!!

-If it aint Wong, it ain't white.

[claud3]

that is a great image. it would be cool to steal a money van from a chopper by jumping on to the money van

[Lukeyy19]

thought i would mention, i think it fits this topic... notice the names in the multiplayer image... they dont look like anyone put much effort into it, for a game that is supposed to be beautiful, you think they could have used a nice smooth font and a nice glowing arrow or something rather than crappy coloured dots.

i hope that these images are not final, that the text and icons are just basic, and they have been updated for the full release...

[claud3]

i hope that these images are not final, that the text and icons are just basic, and they have been updated for the full release...

dude it is only icons above the head it is nothing important

[Cutts]

I don't see why people are so annoyed by the way the game looks. Its fucking beautiful.

[baleent]

I think the circles can be edited or change with your level, because some people have different ones in the screen.

[Phil]

I think the circles can be edited or change with your level, because some people have different ones in the screen.

If you're referring to the triangles.. then, they're just there to point out whether a person is above or below you... :)

[claud3]

I don't see why people are so annoyed by the way the game looks. Its fucking beautiful.

that is a great point dude it is amazing and we have to respect all the work that went into this amazing game

[piecake]

Why are people already complaining this is supposed too be a gta fansite is it not?

[Lukeyy19]

i know i'ts nothing important, and even if its not changed, im not complaining about it, what i meant was they don't seem to fit the beauty of the game. but come to think of it no online games have nice looking icons/nicknames.

I'im sorry guys, i didnt realise how i sounded

[claud3]

it is ok dude do not worry

[tornado of soul]

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/495/gta1111111l p7.jpg

has "WTF" been noticed?

[Blackninja]

thats interesting...i wonder wat other odd ads they r gona hav

[Lukeyy19]

i saw a billbard in the first trailer for the "HEART STOPPER! - the 6lb Burger!" and also one for a movie called "I Slept With Your Mom"

(my apologies if these are mentioned)

[Asif]

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/495/gta1111111l p7.jpg

has "WTF" been noticed?

"A Tale of Online Love (http://www.isarapix.org/pix71/1207737748.jpg)", <-- it's a screenshot from the month of February.

[claud3]

nicely pointed out ASIF

[thenotsogoodtrickster]

Sorry I don't have pics, but some things I noticed, I'll try update with more.

Trailer #1:

26 seconds, Americas Next Top Hooker on a billboard, also, Liberty Tree returns



Trailer #2:
25 seconds, B. Crane on the door Niko breaks through, also, the little chain lock swings as it's smashed.

29 seconds, Diablo guy from GTAIII graffiti on wall.

31 seconds, police/swat look nicely equipped.

39 seconds, guy behind Niko getting beat up on the basketball court

40 seconds, can see trash in trashcan

45 seconds, Binco can be seen, looks enterable

47 seconds, esperanto behind niko?



Trailer #3:

17 seconds, car that looks similar to the tahoma on the left, man checking cell phone on sidewalk on the right

42 seconds, dumpster with a "caution, do not park" sign

51 seconds, whilst getting chased and shot, pedestrians are running away in the background, also, a police car can be seen behind a wall on the left, but isn't doing anything :/

54 seconds, car that Niko and Roman are escaping with has "Albony" or "Albory" written on the grill, might be "Albany" after closer inspection

1 min 2 seconds, notice when Niko jumps he plants his first foot on the ledge to propell himself

1 min 12 seconds, photograph of the "no killing" girl on the wall, was she on trailer #2?



Trailer #4

31 seconds, the black cars on the airport chase are filled with people, hard to tell but look like they're in suits, FBI I think

1 min 6 seconds, The Daily Globe written down side of building



Generally:

Can see barrel on the gun, no just a black dot on the and of an AK like in previous games


Sorry if all this is old news, just thought I'd have a look for some things in the trailers, hope this has been interesting to some people :)

[Asif]

Trailer #2:
47 seconds, esperanto behind niko?


That is 'IMPONTE', you could also see it on 8th second.


Trailer #3:

1 min 12 seconds, photograph of the "no killing" girl on the wall, was she on trailer #2?

Yes, it's the same woman.

[LordLeverette]

that is a great image. it would be cool to steal a money van from a chopper by jumping on to the money van

Besides the fact that theres blood on the roof of the van, Mr. Wongs was in GTA 3
http://www.g-unleashed.com/files/GTA%203_mrwongs.jpg
:smash:

[claud3]

true true but it would be cool to steal a money van by jumping onto it from a chopper

[Jose]

Pic (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/CJ-Boy/GTAgun.jpg)
The detailing on this automatic rifle is impressive, you can see everything, even the manufacturer's name branded on it.

[claud3]

That is so nice cool detail

[hootie]

Pic (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/CJ-Boy/GTAgun.jpg)
The detailing on this automatic rifle is impressive, you can see everything, even the manufacturer's name branded on it.

Wow, that's pretty amazing!

[InCirclesAgain]

I was reading some post on another forum when I saw this. Does this mean that the leaked map only shows major streets and the game is actually more dense? I think so. The radar picture is from a magazine that I can't remember.
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa265/rasomaso/ radar-map-speculation-wtf-ftw.jpg

[harper]

yer i see the gameplay pics it looks like there will be alot of alley ways in between these main roads, its what i was hoping for !

[rean2]

im getting hyped again, my 2nd climax, Danm it, too much GTA IV info!!

[jascando]

im getting hyped again, my 2nd climax, Danm it, too much GTA IV info!!


DUDE!!!! you have no idea, this is the LONGEST month in the history of this planet....im lossin it people

[MrXakaRebel]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 267.jpg

is it just me or does the gun that niko's holding in this pic look like a revolver? hopefully its a magnum, it seems like it probably is since it sent that guy flying off the roof like that!

[claud3]

yes it does

[Weezy F Baby]

it looks like a dessert eagle 2 me, but u never know....man i cant wait 2 throw people off the roof like that =D

[InCirclesAgain]

Defiantly looks like a revolver of somesort but it also could be a luger. http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1499/germanluge r2pc5.jpg

[claud3]

it looks like a dessert eagle 2 me, but u never know....man i cant wait 2 throw people off the roof like that =D

your right it is a Dessert eagle

[harper]

it looks a bit thin to be a deagle imo, i'd probably go with some sort of magnum/ revolver

[.LiLe.]

The desert eagle has a much thicker pipe. You can compare this gun of the screen shot and the one on the artwork with the guy holding the desert eagle and see that they are different.

[Asif]

Closer view of that gun.

http://www.isarapix.org/pix11/sm/1207176560.jpg (http://www.isarapix.org/my.php?isara=pix11/pre/12 07176560.jpg)

[Jeffro!]

Looks like a .45 or something along those lines

[claud3]

it is the clock gun

[Phil]

it is the clock gun

Thats not a glock.. it looks like a beretta... but also like a deagle (desert eagle)

[snappy]

has anybody point out the maybe connection between the kill flying rats 1/200 thing as being the new hidden packages??

It that lastest review., they said the hidden packages make sound as you are near them... maybe the sound of pigeons??


Sorry if its been pointed out but i stopped at page 45 or something...

[Asif]

flying rats could be one of the achievements, it's not really revealed how the hidden package would be. But the OXM review left some hints on it.

http://www.isarapix.org/pix68/1208268098.jpg

[snappy]

Yeah thats the review i was talking bout.

Well here lets put some stuff together..

How many hidden pagkages are normally in a GTA series? 100/200 right? It was said that when they killed the "flying Rats" something popped up saying 1/200 found..

That OXM review also says:
They fit in with the city perfectly... pigeons are always seen in NYC... eh?
The packages make sound when near them.... Pigeons make sound.. that whooing or what ever it is.. Eh?

So im pretty damn positive that the hidden packages are pigeons now..

And when the game comes out on the 29th and we kill our first hidden package we can all look back at this thread and go "wow snappy was right" :) ;)


lol hopefully, but i mean the clues fit together perfectly..

[claud3]

In this image Niko is infront of a burnt car and there is a body inside it do you thank the bodies will stay longer this time
http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/screens/109.jpg

[harper]

im with the pigeon theory haha, the review said there more satisfing to collect , whats more satisfying then shooting desiese ridden birds ???

[Asif]

The helicopter crashing part from the Irish ad video, it literally split into halves.

http://www.isarapix.org/pix50/1208351010.gif

[claud3]

nice spot. It is going to be fun blowing up choppers
http://www.isarapix.org/pix50/1208351010.gif

[Asif]

Also, it fell on a car, the reaction is so real.

[claud3]

did you see the car flip backwards that is so cool

[Yellow_sentinel]

nice spot. It is going to be fun blowing up choppers
http://www.isarapix.org/pix50/1208351010.gif

It kinda looks like Battlefield's helicopter explosions.

[claud3]

i know an't it cool

[rean2]

did you see the car flip backwards that is so cool

oh yeah i c it, at first i was like theres a car in that pic?
and i looked closer and i saw it
looks awesome

[claud3]

can not wait to do that when i play the game

[Groundogg]

Heres a few things I noticed, not sure if they have been posted:

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/664/gtablindfir eej0.th.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtablind fireej0.jpg)
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6625/gtadeusche nw2.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtadeusc henw2.jpg)
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1680/gtaperseus ha2.th.jpg (http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtaperse usha2.jpg)
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/738/gtaprisoncw 3.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtapriso ncw3.jpg)
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2216/gtapublicc rimexl9.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtapubli ccrimexl9.jpg)
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7697/gtaumberel larh0.th.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtaumber ellarh0.jpg)
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/565/gtayogawc8. th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtayogaw c8.jpg)

I can't wait to kill those yoga people. :)

[rean2]

i wonder if we can use umbrellas as weapons...

[snappy]

Yeah thats the review i was talking bout.

Well here lets put some stuff together..

How many hidden pagkages are normally in a GTA series? 100/200 right? It was said that when they killed the "flying Rats" something popped up saying 1/200 found..

That OXM review also says:
They fit in with the city perfectly... pigeons are always seen in NYC... eh?
The packages make sound when near them.... Pigeons make sound.. that whooing or what ever it is.. Eh?

So im pretty damn positive that the hidden packages are pigeons now..

And when the game comes out on the 29th and we kill our first hidden package we can all look back at this thread and go "wow snappy was right" :) ;)


lol hopefully, but i mean the clues fit together perfectly..


Yes I quoted myself but now im 99.9 % sure pigeons are the actual Hidden Packages..
If you look on the achievement list, one of the achievements is for collecting all packages.. And the name of the achievement is Endangered Species.

50G Endangered Species
Collect every hidden package in the game.

[FG]

Yes I quoted myself but now im 99.9 % sure pigeons are the actual Hidden Packages..
If you look on the achievement list, one of the achievements is for collecting all packages.. And the name of the achievement is Endangered Species.

50G Endangered Species
Collect every hidden package in the game.

Dude ! your theory has flown the coup :P seriously tho you make a valid point there, well done...only time will tell..forsure.

[claud3]

cool collecting birds nice one

[NeikoownsLC]

Since when did collecting and shooting in the face mean the same thing?

"Go collect kids, Honey"

"Allright, Baby justt need to get my shotgun".

[snappy]

Since when did collecting and shooting in the face mean the same thing?

"Go collect kids, Honey"

"Allright, Baby justt need to get my shotgun".

Do you know how to hunt?? You shoot something and then you "Collect" your trophie...

I got 3 dollars paypal.. saying im right..;)

[NeikoownsLC]

I'll send you my dog if you're right.

[NeikoownsLC]

But if that's true doesn't it take away the whole fits in the city Who the hell goes hunting in a city?

[snappy]

WTF are you talking about.. They say the packages fit in with the city, not the way you get them.. Name a city that doesnt have birds flying around..

[NeikoownsLC]

I was watching the ultimate fighter when the gta iv commerical comes on and if you stop the commerical 8 seconds into it you can see jeremy standing infront of a sign that says something like "The m---t's room" It kind of look likes it says the misty's room or something I cant figure it out.

Could someone screen-shot it for me?I don't know how to do that.

Looks like it could be a hint at Misty from gta lll.

But I'm not sure.

[FG]

I was watching the ultimate fighter when the gta iv commerical comes on and if you stop the commerical 8 seconds into it you can see jeremy standing infront of a sign that says something like "The m---t's room" It kind of look likes it says the misty's room or something I cant figure it out.

Could someone screen-shot it for me?I don't know how to do that.

Looks like it could be a hint at Misty from gta lll.

But I'm not sure.

I aswell notice that :) I hope someone has a pic of it to study...very interesting, perhaps an easter egg .

[NeikoownsLC]

Kind of-topic I don't mean to be but am I the only who can't stop laughing when they see roman get hit by the car?It's not like I'm crazy it's just the voice and everything "YOU HIT HIM". And he just goes flying like fifty feet.

It almost looks like something from super mario.

[jaybay20000]

im pretty sure it says The Mens Room i remember reading about it somewhere i think its on the Official Website it was included with the update and hes in the bathroom note the urinals...

[dizzleman]

Kind of-topic I don't mean to be but am I the only who can't stop laughing when they see roman get hit by the car?It's not like I'm crazy it's just the voice and everything "YOU HIT HIM". And he just goes flying like fifty feet.

It almost looks like something from super mario.


thats not roman getting hit...its a random ped

[NeikoownsLC]

thats not roman getting hit...its a random ped

Is it?Cause I know it's in the trailer. It might be roman driving with niko but I'm not sure. It kind of looks like roman. Fat overweight. heh..

[bonesmccoy]

Roman is in the passenger seat. He yells out 'You hit him!' after Nico hits (and runs) a pedestrian. Considering that the trailer is *about* Roman, do you really think Rock* would show his death??

[dizzleman]

Roman is in the passenger seat. He yells out 'You hit him!' after Nico hits (and runs) a pedestrian. Considering that the trailer is *about* Roman, do you really think Rock* would show his death??

yea wat he said hahah


nice spot. It is going to be fun blowing up choppers
http://www.isarapix.org/pix50/1208351010.gif

DAMN!!! thats a big boom!! haha

[NeikoownsLC]

In my mind I thought thats why you killed the jack thompson like lawyer. Like Roman gets hit, Sues whoever hit him, Gets the money and then s screwed by thompson and niko has to kill him or something.

Because I mean how does niko get the millon dollars phill's talking about in his trailer?I thought he got that money from the lawsuit.

Hell I don't know.

[Asif]

I was watching the ultimate fighter when the gta iv commerical comes on and if you stop the commerical 8 seconds into it you can see jeremy standing infront of a sign that says something like "The m---t's room" It kind of look likes it says the misty's room or something I cant figure it out.

Could someone screen-shot it for me?I don't know how to do that.

Looks like it could be a hint at Misty from gta lll.

But I'm not sure.

It says 'The Men's Room'. ;)

A section is already up (launched on the last friday) on the official site dedicated to that.

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/#?page=mensRoom&content=interactive0

[Jacobs Supplier]

I don't see why people are so annoyed by the way the game looks. Its fucking beautiful.

because no matter what ppl will ALWAYS find something to complain about... it never enough for them to just be content with what they are getting... i think this game looks incredible and believe it will make up for any minor shortcomings it may or may not have... like the multiplayer text.. lol come on now...

[claud3]

the game is amazing and will alwayz be amazing

[JohnnyRodz]

Kind of-topic I don't mean to be but am I the only who can't stop laughing when they see roman get hit by the car?It's not like I'm crazy it's just the voice and everything "YOU HIT HIM". And he just goes flying like fifty feet.

It almost looks like something from super mario.

I can't stop laughing at Roman,period. Especially when he was hiding in the dumpster.

[claud3]

If you Notice on the Road there is a Small Black thing moving up the road has the chopper blows up anyone know what it is.


nice spot. It is going to be fun blowing up choppers
http://www.isarapix.org/pix50/1208351010.gif

[Asif]

The camera is moving towards forward with Niko, which may make you think that the object, on the road, is moving as well, which actually is not.

[claud3]

ok thankz man i spent an hour looking at it and thought it was R.C car sorry for the stupid post

[rikerd17]

the helicopter smashes into a car and sends it flyin. i like it :)

[claud3]

same here still loving it

[FG]

ok thankz man i spent an hour looking at it and thought it was R.C car sorry for the stupid post

No it wasnt a stupid question claud:) I was wondering what that thing was also...its not moving, but its a curious object.

[claud3]

Thankz dude. It was a curious object. There is always something to notice in the screenshots strange or not

[.LiLe.]

I was looking at the new screens and I found a pic where a taxi man flys out the window shield and bursts into the truck and gets pwned

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/Lile-L23-Fresh/untitled-3.jpg

[Asif]

Eww, the way it looks that fella got decapitated. :-s And, that taxi is probably one of the Blista cabs.

[.LiLe.]

Most likely, or the impala one.

[gta4crazy1]

I was looking at the new screens and I found a pic where a taxi man flys out the window shield and bursts into the truck and gets pwned

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/Lile-L23-Fresh/untitled-3.jpg

Asif might be right, but where is his head?. It looks like either the head is hanging down or the top quarter of his body is glitched through

[Mark T]

It looks as if his head is hitting the bonnet and he could be wearing a hood which is why it's a bit harder to make out the shape. Probably a hooded pedestrian in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[claud3]

And in this image you can see One guy smoking and another Drinking. And again the fair is in this Image
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 305.jpg

Do you see the way the wheel buckels it is awsome. And i think his head goes through the grill of the truck.
I was looking at the new screens and I found a pic where a taxi man flys out the window shield and bursts into the truck and gets pwned

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/Lile-L23-Fresh/untitled-3.jpg

[ska]

His heads probablys tucked against his chest.

[Matthew]

That looks like Niko taking a header in to the grill of the semi. I swear i have seen him in that leather jacket in some other screen shots. Also look behind the drivers seat you can see a blond haired person's head hitting the seat.

[claud3]

It could be Niko Doing a taxi Mission

[.LiLe.]

I don't think thats Niko, the guy looks fat. I think his head is bent to his chest or tucked in like Ska said.

[rean2]

And in this image you can see One guy smoking and another Drinking. And again the fair is in this Image
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 305.jpg



its Firefly island (GTAIV), or Coney Island in Real life
http://www.whowalkinbrooklyn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/coney1982wwib.jpg
and the Fair area is called Astroland
http://static.flickr.com/112/309230570_3dc64b8270_ o.jpg
the Liberty Eye or Wonder Wheel in realife

The parachute drop tower (red tower thing) has been closed for more than 20 years and the city still doesn't know wat to do with it :retardo2:

[Lukeyy19]

Big Wang Restaurant

http://www.isarapix.org/pix43/1208652787.jpg

[rean2]

Big Wang Restaurant

http://www.isarapix.org/pix43/1208652787.jpg

lol
thats the pic of the Banshee!!
i hope, or a the return of the stinger...

[ska]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 260.jpg

MR. WONGS!!

-If it aint Wong, it ain't white.

Read the chopper's tail

[Lukeyy19]

Read the chopper's tail

lol yeah i saw that

[ska]

It's pretty funny

[lilduffelbagboy]

that's what I wish I could change my PSN to BigWangJay07

[bennifer3000]

In the latest issue of the magazine "The Electric Playground" it makes a rather interesting information:

It is confirmed that Niko, when he was found near the toilet / urinal, the player can choose whether or not to use them. Apparently, when you drink a lot, the effect "stuffed" lasts a long time, if you are tired after two minutes and you have 4-6 minutes effect "alcoholic", you can use toilets, which will effectively return to a normal mode, and you can play without the blurred effect.

[rean2]

In the latest issue of the magazine "The Electric Playground" it makes a rather interesting information:

It is confirmed that Niko, when he was found near the toilet / urinal, the player can choose whether or not to use them. Apparently, when you drink a lot, the effect "stuffed" lasts a long time, if you are tired after two minutes and you have 4-6 minutes effect "alcoholic", you can use toilets, which will effectively return to a normal mode, and you can play without the blurred effect.

haha really? cool

[sirspy]

In the latest issue of the magazine "The Electric Playground" it makes a rather interesting information:

It is confirmed that Niko, when he was found near the toilet / urinal, the player can choose whether or not to use them. Apparently, when you drink a lot, the effect "stuffed" lasts a long time, if you are tired after two minutes and you have 4-6 minutes effect "alcoholic", you can use toilets, which will effectively return to a normal mode, and you can play without the blurred effect.

wow that's pretty neat, was wondering how all that worked... too bad the option to piss doesn't appear when you're next to a cop car :D

[Phil]

wow that's pretty neat, was wondering how all that worked... too bad the option to piss doesn't appear when you're next to a cop car :D

Haha... wonder what would happen if you did that in real life..

(obivously i know, dont try it.. )

[snappy]

Haha... wonder what would happen if you did that in real life..

(obivously i know, dont try it.. )

No no its fine, go ahead and try! Then let us know. ;)

[Zeshil]

Anyone know if Break and Enter will return like in San Andreas?
That was a neat feature the added

[Krayzie13]

^that would be a cool cuz that was one of my favorite things to do in SA

[owned_by_gta]

has anyone ever noticed in gta san andreas some times there would be a giant steatched out eagle in the desert and not flapping its wings and just floating thought the air? its a freakish sight

Read the chopper's tail

in that pic , the top of the truck has blood on it. so if you multiplayer do you have to take turns jumpimg and possibly missing and getting killed? it looks very possible

[B12ANDON 01]

ok so everyone including me is hyped about the Euphoria physics engine that IV is going to have, but how far is R* going take it...? my point is that R* has pointed out a goooogle amount of times about how we've only seen the "tip of the iceberg" in terms of features, etc. in the game..so that got me thinking after seeing one of the new screenshots --i think its like the fifth one from the top on the new screenshots part of the site-- today if the blood (and gore, if any) will also have life-like physics?? there would be very few things that would pleasure me more in the game than pumping a guy in the chest with a shotty and watching his blood run down the sloped sidewalk... mmmmm tasty

[redninja216]

ok so everyone including me is hyped about the Euphoria physics engine that IV is going to have, but how far is R* going take it...? my point is that R* has pointed out a goooogle amount of times about how we've only seen the "tip of the iceberg" in terms of features, etc. in the game..so that got me thinking after seeing one of the new screenshots --i think its like the fifth one from the top on the new screenshots part of the site-- today if the blood (and gore, if any) will also have life-like physics?? there would be very few things that would pleasure me more in the game than pumping a guy in the chest with a shotty and watching his blood run down the sloped sidewalk... mmmmm tasty


dude.... get help.

[B12ANDON 01]

haha dude, come on...you gonna get pissy and moany about some pixelated blood..? i just thought i saw it on the screenshot. but whatev, its no biggy

[WiM]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 327.jpg

In this picture it seems as if Niko is pointing a rocketlauncher in the wrong direction, so the explosion is behind him. (I know he isn't using a rocketlauncher)

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 326.jpg

Niko shoots someone in the back of the head in this picture. I love how deatailed eveything is. Look at the blood on the windshield.

[Lukeyy19]

is it just me, or has anyone else noticed how some of the images (mainly daytime ones) look like a watercolour painting...

(can see it more in the trees)

this one is a good example:

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 316.jpg

[Asif]

Much like the following one from History of LC page on the Official site.

http://www.isarapix.org/pix2/1208878541.jpg

[snappy]

is it just me, or has anyone else noticed how some of the images (mainly daytime ones) look like a watercolour painting...

(can see it more in the trees)

this one is a good example:

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 316.jpg

Its been stated plenty of times, its a filter they used to keep the FPS up, so it basically knocks the detail of things down a bit, in order to help keep the game smooth. kinda like how some games have "FOG" off in the distance that covers everything.

[Lukeyy19]

so it will only be things in the distance? when you up close to a tree it wont look like a painting?

[rean2]

so it will only be things in the distance? when you up close to a tree it wont look like a painting?

yup
i hope

[Crazy J]

i don't understand why the hell are those people being bitchy about graphic. Those guys who made this game did their best to make the game realistic as possible. And if they continue to complain about graphic then they should learn how to shut the fuck up and design their own games to fit their preference. Too hard? Thought so, just shut the fuck up and enjoy the gameplay.:zcab:

[Lukeyy19]

i don't understand why the hell are those people being bitchy about graphic. Those guys who made this game did their best to make the game realistic as possible. And if they continue to complain about graphic then they should learn how to shut the fuck up and design their own games to fit their preference. Too hard? Thought so, just shut the fuck up and enjoy the gameplay.:zcab:

erm... i dont recall saying it was a bad thing, was just a bit odd, calm down

[lilduffelbagboy]

lol I know the only problem that I think will be a real problem is the lil kink in the shooting mechanic when on the X 360 review talk about how the game would glitch up sometimes when u are still locked on a foe while u're tryin to find cover I don't think this will be a real big problem as long as the cover system isn't like Kane & Lynch everything is roses cuz now that I seen everything that this game will offer I realize that this is the paramount I mean it is some room for improvement it's just not goin to happen in a year or in two for that matter

[Crazy J]

no, i'm referring to other people that complusively being picky about graphic.

[lilduffelbagboy]

all I can say is the shyt looks good in motion

[retrac13]

I really like the painting-like quality. It reminds me of Ico. I prefer haziness over rough pixelation.

But more importatnly. on the topic of "things to notice" one of the new screenshots from today has a store called Krapea. A little dig at Ikea, i suppose. Possible furniture customization? haha, jk. But add it to the list of "parodies and references."

[sirspy]

There is an (what I'm guessing is) Ikea clone in the game called Krappea (for obvious reasons) on the left side in the background

...also if you look behind the tubby guy with the cappaccino you will notice Niko, and he appears to be dropping a duece on the sidewalk

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 350.jpg

[optik]

notice in this screenshot 2 things: 1.) there's actual news on the newspapers! The headline reads, "Flasher removed of his 'flash' by wanted [plastic?] surgeon" 2.)Also notice, in front of the line of cars on the right there is some guy lying on the ground...maybe he got hit?

EDIT: noticed something else...the secondary headline says: "Tourism slumps to all time low as crime soars to new heights"

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 343.jpg

[Qontrol]

Police, Firemans.

They walk away when it's done, As i've seen in one of the trailers, They're still as dumb as hell.



http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/screens/GTAIV_87.h tml

America's next top hood (Model), Lol.

[Lao Boy]

Police, Firemans.

They walk away when it's done, As i've seen in one of the trailers, They're still as dumb as hell.



http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/screens/GTAIV_87.h tml

America's next top hood (Model), Lol.

What are they meant to do? also, what trailer?

[JMR]

Police, Firemans.

They walk away when it's done, As i've seen in one of the trailers, They're still as dumb as hell.



http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/screens/GTAIV_87.h tml

America's next top hood (Model), Lol.

I think it's supposed to be "America's Next Top Hooker," a clever commentary on all of the shows of that nature.

[sirspy]

Police, Firemans.

They walk away when it's done, As i've seen in one of the trailers, They're still as dumb as hell.



http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/screens/GTAIV_87.h tml

America's next top hood (Model), Lol.

hehe, Niko has a Popeye look on his face

[NeikoownsLC]

Police, Firemans.

They walk away when it's done, As i've seen in one of the trailers, They're still as dumb as hell.



http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/screens/GTAIV_87.h tml

America's next top hood (Model), Lol.

because in real life the cops don't go to other calls...They stand and stare for hours.

[phexitol]

C'mon! Nobody noticed a returning (radio) character from San Andreas/Liberty City Stories/Vice City Stories - Crow:
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ thumbnails/349.jpg (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 349.jpg)

CROW
Reunion in IRAN
Don't miss one man reunite with himself!

[lilduffelbagboy]

all I know is I hope they really have emotion so after the cops had a long stand of wit me then when they finally get me they will shoot me out the window and a cop on the street walkin up and kicks my body it would really make me amazed if they spit on me lol

[Qontrol]

Don't remember which trailer, Let me search lol.

[lilduffelbagboy]

lol naw just improv I'm tryin to think of how real the damn game is and fuckin gameplay videos will not show me as much as I'll know when I play it I just feel they just put thing in the game they wished could do back when they were makin San Andreas.

[ska]

On Trailer #4, anyone notice the undercover policeman in the shirt with sleeve tatoos screaming "LCPD! FREEZE! I SAID FREEZE!" I think he stand out too much to just be a normal character, wha kind of role do you think he'll play? Like a rivalry or a grudge against Niko or something?

[lilduffelbagboy]

lol maybe he's the special someone

[ska]

I doubt that, he could be but I don't think he is

[Jeremy 360 NL]

caaaaaaant waaaaaaaaaaiiitt ffs!

[lilduffelbagboy]

just bein sarcastic ska I think that will be told during the game's intro

[ska]

I see

[iChaos]

just bein sarcastic ska I think that will be told during the game's intro I already saw the intro and has nothing to do with it

[Jamal]

They say that's not the real intro

[ska]

The real one got leaked, along with the game.

[Jamal]

The one that shows the gameplay after the intro of Niko coming into the country?

[ska]

No, the FULL game has leaked.

[Jamal]

Oh, thought you were talking about the lil video on youtube....u chip?

[optik]

Look at this (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 031.jpg) pic of the Empire State (in game), our first pic of the lights on it, then look at this most recent (http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 347.jpg) pic of it. There's a difference in the lights. The ones in the first pic are a lot more detailed.

[CB]

One is at night and close up, the other is in daytime and significantly farther away. You can understand the reasoning for this.

[Algonquin]

actually i think thats just a difference in the time of day so the radiance is limited

[Qontrol]

You will have to pay $ 5 to move to the other city, otherwise police will get you right away if you drive through the gates without paying.

By the way, The screenshot from the FIRST trailer. As some said in gtagaming is there an kind of 'icon' that says 'move to vice city for 300$' is this conformed?

[claud3]

Anyone see the Dead Body in this shot that is across the street on the road

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ 343.jpg

[Asif]

May be he's not dead, probably he was struck by that car during the moment this screenshot was taken.

[claud3]

Are these to the same image. But form different anagles

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ thumbnails/388.jpg

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ thumbnails/372.jpg

[Qontrol]

Yeah, Nice!

[claud3]

It does look like it is the same shot

[ska]

It looks too high up to be the same shot imo

[Qontrol]

Let me repeat this to get the answer. :P

The screenshot from the FIRST trailer. As some said on gtagaming is there an kind of 'icon' that says 'move to vice city for 300$' is this conformed? :O

[Lukeyy19]

Let me repeat this to get the answer. :P

The screenshot from the FIRST trailer. As some said on gtagaming is there an kind of 'icon' that says 'move to vice city for 300$' is this conformed? :O

you can't go to Vice City

[RyanEmerica13]

Any one like LRG? Look at the guy behind PBX
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s90/RyanEmerica 13/untitled1.jpg

[calumn]

you can't go to Vice City

...and you know this how exactly?

Are these to the same image. But form different anagles

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ thumbnails/388.jpg

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/screenshots/ thumbnails/372.jpg

the smoke following the rocket seems to differ, the over-the-shoulder angle doesnt seem to be as orange as it is in the other screen.

although im probably wrong, its more likely that theyre both from the same cutscene.

[claud3]

thankz i am still puzzeled by this image. I am not complaining about it but is is cool to notice it

[Lukeyy19]

...and you know this how exactly?

because don't you think it may have been mentioned, you think they can fit a whole seperate High Def City on the disk...

[Jay]

You can't go to Vice City =p

[Sonikdude750]

the smoke following the rocket seems to differ, the over-the-shoulder angle doesnt seem to be as orange as it is in the other screen.

although im probably wrong, its more likely that theyre both from the same cutscene.

It's because the smoke is more orange closer to the rocket itself, which is easier to see at the side angle.

[dizzleman]

Any one like LRG? Look at the guy behind PBX
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s90/RyanEmerica 13/untitled1.jpg

i noticed that too in the game..but iunno if its juss me or does X's jacket look like a coogi one

[adrieono]

yeah thats a coogi one

[CB]

You can't go to Vice City =p

....yet. ;)

[cheesychese]

heh, i found bigfoot by the statue of Liberty. He was selling big bright red, white and blue balloons for 10 dollars!

[Lukeyy19]

anyone know where the tixE is?

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8517/0305200827 9zu5.jpg


Damn... that's alot of Taxis...

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2571/0205200827 5is9.jpg

[CB]

On the East Borough Bridge, there's a stationary Patrol Car and the cop occasionally pulls random motorists over for checks. Walks up to the window and everything. Haven't seen him find anything suspicious or arrest anyone yet but keep an eye out guys.

[AUAnonymous]

On the East Borough Bridge, there's a stationary Patrol Car and the cop occasionally pulls random motorists over for checks. Walks up to the window and everything. Haven't seen him find anything suspicious or arrest anyone yet but keep an eye out guys.

I've noticed that a few times as well, it's the one with the cones around it, right?

[CB]

It is indeed. I've even seen them do vehicle checks on a main road.

[phexitol]

If you are standing next to a mirror and pull out the phone, the mirror not only reflects the phone, but the little screen itself. It's not very detailed, but you can see it change when you move around the phone menus.

An excellent spot to do this is: PlayboyX's apartment after you kill him (if you kill him).

[atdray]

Not sure if anybody's mentioned this yet or not, but after you complete the storyline, the various tickers around Algonquin read:
Mob boss dies in hospital before he can go to trial. What will this mean for organized crime? And another says: Bum finds Diamonds in.. some shit. Can't remember, but it's obviously the Diamonds that were tossed down into the Garbage truck during the exchange mission you do with Packie.

Thought that was coooool.

[Jose]

Yes that is also on the sites Liberty Tree, Weazel News, and I think Our-Own-Reality has it too.

[atdray]

But it's much more convenient seeing it on the tickers throughout Star Junction. ;)

[jwrebholz]

I like how your passengers will comment on your driving.

Your dates (at least from what I've seen) will only comment if you drive recklessly and hit stuff--and none of it is positive.

Your buddies, if you drive fast and skilfully, will make comments like "If we're going somewhere we may as well do it at pace.." Brucie gets quite animated the faster you drive and the more risks you take (splitting lanes, running lights etc.). If you hit something or something hits you, they'll curse out the other guy.

[Lukeyy19]

If you are standing next to a mirror and pull out the phone, the mirror not only reflects the phone, but the little screen itself. It's not very detailed, but you can see it change when you move around the phone menus.

An excellent spot to do this is: PlayboyX's apartment after you kill him (if you kill him).

or just move the camera above Niko and you can see it.

[atdray]

Anybody notice or mention this yet? Well, I was playing earlier today and shot some red exploding barrels. I wasn't too far from the barrels at all, in fact, pretty close, but not close enough to take some damage. Anyway, after the explosion, I heard this ringing. I stopped and asked myself what the fuck it was, and then I realized it was NIKO'S EARS ringing. I swear it. I didn't do it a second time to confirm, but I will. Not sure if it happens every time something explodes near you.

[cyril]

Yeah, this does happen each time you are close to an explosion.

[EyeVee]

if you go boating with Brucie, he calls it the Statue of Freedom instead of the Statue of Happiness

[phipfwe76]

Tuesday and Friday mornings are trash days. Usually between the hours of midnight and 6 AM on those days trash trucks are everywhere with workers on the back.

[wwecruz]

Anybody notice or mention this yet? Well, I was playing earlier today and shot some red exploding barrels. I wasn't too far from the barrels at all, in fact, pretty close, but not close enough to take some damage. Anyway, after the explosion, I heard this ringing. I stopped and asked myself what the fuck it was, and then I realized it was NIKO'S EARS ringing. I swear it. I didn't do it a second time to confirm, but I will. Not sure if it happens every time something explodes near you.

Same with rockets. Everything sounds muffled after that.