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Ash_735
03-23-2007, 07:55 PM
Hey, just checked my inbox, got e-mails from Rockstar advertising the GTA IV Trailer with an exact time, 6:00 PM EST on the 29th, and I noticed it has a tagline under the big IV in quotes saying "Things Will be Different", could this be the games tagline?

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.:nemesis:.
03-23-2007, 07:57 PM
Things will definetly be exciting. :)

Can't you screenshot the pic ?

Lettermaniac
03-23-2007, 08:01 PM
How exciting.

Wow, Rockstar are really doing a lot of marketing. The half - hour FX trailer countdown, this tagline and the big trailer countdown itself. I'm eager to see more.

.:nemesis:.
03-23-2007, 08:03 PM
Imagine what the GTA sites will be like in a weeks time....wowee.

Ash_735
03-23-2007, 08:04 PM
Edited into first post.

Antonio Montana
03-23-2007, 08:14 PM
cool information.. I'm very excited about this one!

.:nemesis:.
03-23-2007, 08:17 PM
You can't even imagine what they mean by " Things will be different ".

Thanks for posting the pic Ash. :)

CaliMex
03-23-2007, 08:20 PM
Foiled yet again! I just looked at my inbox and there it was. I jumped back here to post but I'm too late, oh well.

Now I'm sure that it's going to be at 3:00 pm where I live. Before DST it was 3:00 pm too and I thought it would change to 4 but it didn't. I guess they still wanted it to show up at 6 pm EST.

I hope the trailer really kicks our asses with visual pleasure (as well as audio with a great song) and that things really will be different.

Slim Trashman
03-23-2007, 08:55 PM
Nice, thanks for posting! :)

Definitely something to add to discussions, "Things will be different". It could mean too many things..

phreak
03-23-2007, 09:29 PM
This could be bad...I don't want the GTA I know and love to change too much :(

Lettermaniac
03-23-2007, 09:33 PM
I know what you mean Phreak. It's got a feel, a something. I really hope they stick with that style, but at the same time show vast next - gen improvements.

"Things Will be Different" is so general.

Slim Trashman
03-23-2007, 09:34 PM
No need to worry. I'm sure "different" in this case only means positive changes and additions. Here's my longer post on GTAForums regarding this (towards the bottom) (http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=2703 87&st=20)

phreak
03-23-2007, 10:14 PM
Okay I've had some time to think about this, here goes:

GTA IV will become the Saints Row knockoff, Maybe not as far as the ghetto gangster theme, but character customization. You will be able to change body type, skin color, eye color, hair color/style, all the facials, etc. The main character will be a mute, like the last game to use Roman numerals in the title, GTA III. This will open the door for the MMO that Rockstar seems to so badly want. Mix in the new physics engine, up to date grahics, and there is your "difference".

If that's not it, then we are in for a HUGE surprise. :D

Slim Trashman
03-23-2007, 10:42 PM
I'd side with the "HUGE surprise" here. The game can still include an actual story with a fixed character and have online multiplayer with character customizations.

Rylo
03-23-2007, 10:45 PM
Ok if the character is mute and used in alot of cutscenes, ugg I will take the shit back.

I like what your long post on gtaf, Slim, agreed.

Lettermaniac
03-23-2007, 10:53 PM
I'd side with the "HUGE surprise" here. The game can still include an actual story with a fixed character and have online multiplayer with character customizations.

That's really what I want. I don't like what Phreak said :(

But really, 5 days until we find out!

Jimmy_86
03-23-2007, 11:04 PM
Did everyone on the GTA mailing list get this? 'cause I don't think I did.

phreak
03-23-2007, 11:14 PM
Hey I didn't say that's what I wanted, that's just what I think the "surprise" is. I would be disappointed if it ended up like that. But I'm really wanting to know what it is.

@ Jimmy: Mine hasn't come in yet.

RubberDuck
03-23-2007, 11:52 PM
Does this mean once the trailers been and gone and all the screens and scraps of storyline are released, gtagaming will be getting a GTA IV section?

HOPEFULLY!

Asif
03-24-2007, 12:05 AM
Wow, they seem to be emphasizing on 'different'. :D

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasif/ th_untitled-8.png (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasi f/untitled-8.png)

Mine came in almost 4 hours ago.

Slim Trashman
03-24-2007, 12:07 AM
What exactly do the quotes around it mean?

Asif
03-24-2007, 12:19 AM
What exactly do the quotes around it mean?

The quote is hyperlinked with http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/31/0/ .
It actually redirects to the GTA IV main page.

Slim Trashman
03-24-2007, 12:32 AM
Didn't quite mean it like that :P

Asif
03-24-2007, 12:50 AM
Didn't quite mean it like that :P

Ah :P What I feel is, locations, characters - all will be made whole new. No one/no location from past GTAs will be iterated.

Jimmy_86
03-24-2007, 01:37 AM
I wonder if that hyperlink you posted Asif, could be a link to part of what will be the GTAIV website or maybe the trailer, which will have the redirect removed and replaced with the actual content.

nOs jOn
03-24-2007, 02:20 AM
I'm kinda nervous for it, like someone else said, I dont want GTA to change so much that it doesnt feel like GTA anymore...

I am dead against a mute character who is fully custom built... The stories have to coincide/reference each other.

Asif
03-24-2007, 02:43 AM
I wonder if that hyperlink you posted Asif, could be a link to part of what will be the GTAIV website or maybe the trailer, which will have the redirect removed and replaced with the actual content.

Just thought of messing around a bit with the hyperlink. :P

The actual hyperlink: http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/31/0/ ; redirects to GTA IV main page.

Randomly replace 31, in the hyperlink, with other numbers like 30, 29, 32...it redirects you to more websites.

Such as...
http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/30/0/ --> redirected to BBFC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bbfc) official website.
http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/29/0/ --> redirected to Canis Canem Edit contest
http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/28/0/ --> redirects to 2K forums
http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/32/0/ --> redirects to R* main page.
http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/6/0 --> Manhunt 2 page
http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/8/0 --> The Warriors page.
http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/10/0 --> VCS page
http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/11/0 --> VCS "mobile" page
http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/12/0 --> Bully official page
http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/20/0 --> R* mailing list sign-up page
etc. etc.

Jimmy_86
03-24-2007, 02:50 AM
Interesting, so it could well redirect to the GTAIV website/trailer once that's up...

Asif
03-24-2007, 02:57 AM
Oh, the redirecting goes till 33. [You are redirected to ESRB through http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/33/0].

Then you get "Sorry, but that click-through URL is invalid" for 34 (http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/34/ 0), 35 (http://lists.rockstargames.com/t/8151/3972780/35/ 0) and so on. (Contents are yet to be assigned to these, I believe)

the punisher
03-24-2007, 03:28 AM
Wow! They're really hyping it up!
But, really I think this means the inclusion of Multiplayer, and is a quote from the game.
It'll be 12:00 AM here when the trailer hits :D

Pivac
03-24-2007, 04:13 AM
I like all this mystery. Gets me even more excited. :D

FG
03-24-2007, 09:07 AM
Wow, they seem to be emphasizing on 'different'. :D

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasif/ th_untitled-8.png (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/buetforasi f/untitled-8.png)

Mine came in almost 4 hours ago.
Think " Revolutionary " so what would be differant , but still GTA ?

Every one has a differant game , in mind , some think similar , but still everyone is differant.

MMO , RPG , 3rd person , 4th deminson , everthing has been mentioned.

What if its something " differant " a revolution in games again.

UnleadedPenguin
03-24-2007, 11:12 AM
We're taking this all too literally - we're thinking that R* are telling us that the game will be different. It's in quotes - it could be a quote from a character, a tagline from an in-game radio station, it could refer to the fact that the game is on a next-gen console, it could refer to the episodic content, it could be some story aspect of the game that we can't comprehend yet.

Think of the tagline for Matrix Revolutions: "everything that has a beginning, has an end" - it didn't mean that the Matrix franchise ended, it didn't mean that the Matrix universe stopped, it was just a character quote.

Let's do what R* do - think outside the box.

Slim Trashman
03-24-2007, 11:37 AM
3rd person

The game already is in 3rd person :P Did you mean 1st person? (Which would only be good as an optional camera, and definitely not automatically set to)

Pablo Escobar Jr.
03-24-2007, 11:55 AM
Ahh god, I really hope the trailer will show where GTAIV will take place. Or the places the game will be based on. And what kinda theme there will be, just an allround feeling.

But then again, it should not show too much. I don't want to spoil my excitement before its release date.

Something that did happen with GTA:SA.

Rurouni
03-24-2007, 12:25 PM
how this is gonna be really exciting!
But the Trailer will come out on the last day of my spring break!

Pablo Escobar Jr.
03-24-2007, 12:36 PM
I'm in the middle of my exams when the Trailer comes out.:(

Macey
03-24-2007, 01:53 PM
How exciting.

Wow, Rockstar are really doing a lot of marketing. The half - hour FX trailer countdown, this tagline and the big trailer countdown itself. I'm eager to see more.

I saw something on Wiki about this, no idea what it is about though, can someone care to explain?

Slim Trashman
03-24-2007, 02:23 PM
What exactly was it you saw on Wiki?

Macey
03-24-2007, 02:54 PM
It just mentioned that Rockstar are using FX for something. I've no idea what FX is :confused:

Havok
03-24-2007, 04:11 PM
i think it will go back to being topdown.

nOs jOn
03-24-2007, 04:23 PM
i think it will go back to being topdown.


haha man imagine how pissed everyone would be!

"yes, we call this GTA: Regression..."

FG
03-24-2007, 04:23 PM
The game already is in 3rd person :P Did you mean 1st person? (Which would only be good as an optional camera, and definitely not automatically set to)

@ ST , I was listing ..that some wanted it to be in 3rd person (which is what I want)
yes , your right it is in 3rd person ,altho they might give you other ones to pick from aswell :)

Slim Trashman
03-24-2007, 04:27 PM
Ah, sorry my bad. Wasn't clear on what you meant.

FG
03-24-2007, 04:32 PM
@ ST , do you think that it could be , that every gamers game will develope differant from others :)

@ Macey..I think FX refers to Fox.

Ash_735
03-24-2007, 04:54 PM
FX is a channel from Fox that shows Fox Based action/crime/drama shows with some comedy in between. At least that what the channel does here in the UK.

Rurouni
03-24-2007, 05:25 PM
FX is a channel from Fox that shows Fox Based action/crime/drama shows with some comedy in between. At least that what the channel does here in the UK.

same thing over here.....

BigMike
03-24-2007, 08:09 PM
Things will be different just means that once the trailer is released....gaming as we know it will change...

IE: GTA 4 is supposedly going to redefine next gen gaming..just as it did for PS2

fuckin a

Slim Trashman
03-24-2007, 08:15 PM
GTAIV was never on PS2, GTAIII redefined gaming, and GTAIII was on PS2 :P

the punisher
03-24-2007, 08:26 PM
I still don't think it will be THAT revolutionary

Antonio Montana
03-24-2007, 08:33 PM
I still don't think it will be THAT revolutionary
Oh, I think you're wrong :evil3:

nOs jOn
03-25-2007, 02:39 PM
@ nOs jOn ...I think FX refers to Fox.


wasn't me that asked you that bro...

FG
03-25-2007, 03:45 PM
wasn't me that asked you that bro...

Your so right...sorry , it was Macey :)

Macey
03-25-2007, 03:51 PM
I wondered what was going on :D

BigMike
03-25-2007, 04:32 PM
Ugh you know what I mean..GTA 4 will redefine gaming as GTA 3 did on PS2..

you guys are so pushy!!

stenyak
03-25-2007, 04:39 PM
Looks to me like they mean things WILL be different. As in, well, in the future. Ahem cough cough gta 2! cough ahem :laugh:

Hell Inferno X2
03-25-2007, 04:59 PM
Looks to me like they mean things WILL be different. As in, well, in the future. Ahem cough cough gta 2! cough ahem :laugh:


I have a feeling they are going to use more influences from GTA 2 such as the gang respect meter...or even the return of Claude Speed, or even time and city settings. But anyways, "Things Will Be Different." To be honest I dunt think GTA IV can actually redefine gaming as it did on the PS2. The major transition was taking a game with excellent gameplay but a lack of realism due to 2D graphics, and taking it to 3D. After that there had been sooo many different GTA copy cats and version of 3D GTA's it all feels the same. I think its just going to the next step with more realism. But the transition from Last Gen to current gen was not that great. However, GTA IV will be an excellent game and a must have for any gamers nonetheless.

TwiztidDragonX
03-25-2007, 05:43 PM
Hey cool my first post.....anyway I read earlier people talking about mmo being the "different" I have nothing against mmo games but just not in my GTA, just wouldn't seem right

X-reS
03-26-2007, 01:41 AM
I just have to say that it better be the best game I played since GTA3 or I'll be pissed.

SoReal
03-27-2007, 10:38 PM
i think it being a character quote is more possible....or maybe that 'fake image' of the revamped GTA:LC is actually what they plan to do and there referring to liberty city being different ???