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Ash_735
02-17-2007, 03:02 PM
Ok, seen a few threads around, thought it would be good to compact them all into one thread and a little birdy told me to start this, hehe, So come on, what will you be hoping for in GTA IV, anything you think would appear or just any crazy ideas you'd like to see in the game.

Some quick ones that I'd like to see...
1) Ragdoll Physics
2) Dolby 5.1 or DTS 5.1 sound
3) High Res textures and models for most things
4) More realistic time
5) Bigger Cities, still include countryside or desert but the cities should definetly be bigger and not like San Fiero or Las Venturas!

Asif
02-17-2007, 03:10 PM
Thanks for the thread man, at the right time it was needed. I'll post my own list in a while. :)

Ash_735
02-17-2007, 03:14 PM
Other little additions...
Realistic Weather is a must, I know rcguy would approve of this, but the weather in GTA games seems to be quickly done, the only one that has had effort put into it is VCS, I want rain that's actually water, and the parting clouds for a few hours, not Bright sunny one min then pissing down the next.
Realistic Water, again, something that isn't done well in GTA, VCS has ok water but still not enough to match more modern games.
Trees, I always notice trees in games, dunno why, it would be nice if GTA had better trees.

Looking at my points, I just seem to want effects to make you feel like you are in the game more, want the enviroment to be soo good that you would notice little details whilst doing a gang war or something, haha.

CaliMex
02-17-2007, 03:33 PM
I'll just list some quick ones that come to mind...

I want better interaction with the environment such as:
- being able to throw or be thrown on top of tables (and other similar objects) and see them crash down under you
- being able to pick up random objects off the ground and use them as weapons
- crashing into walls when you fall down near a wall, instead of being halfway in the wall on the floor
- jumping from one car to the next, why can Cesar do it and I can't, show us too, I thought we were carnales, holmes
- jumping on top of cars and actually hang off of them by holding on with your hands, imagine if you scare the person inside, you will be swinging wildy, it should sort of like that one mission in SA where the cop is on the car


Some others include:
- better car physics, I want to be able to powerslide, and if the game is set in Japan, drifiting anyone?
- the ability to sit or lay down, I just want to shoot people while sitting or laying down, I'm lazy
- strong winds that can push you or even your vehicle around, I think that happened when you flew something in SA when it was raining
- more chicken nuggets
- more (or better) vehicles that can carry or transport other vehicles, you can use the Packer to transport a few cars but I always had problems when I drove it, the cars would always fall out.
- if we are able to recruit members, I really hope that they don't suck at shooting, the Scarface game was better in that aspect, and they weren't that bad at shooting, they'll also shoot at any enemy (that is attacking us) within range
- while I liked the GTA way of shooting, we should also have freeform shooting like in Scarface or the cheat in SA that lets you do that, of course we should be able to use auto target by pushing a button to make it a little easier

That's all I can think of, I know I had more in previous wishlists for other games but lazy.

-Il Duce

Ix Elit3 xI
02-17-2007, 03:52 PM
I said in a previous post,
-more/better weather, I think it would be awesome your driving down the highway or backroad and all of a sudden on the radio *a tornado has touched down in the red county area* something like that would make e get off track and just go watch the destruction of the tornado rampage and maybe get sucked in myself hahaha.

- a plane that you are a passenger of , you get in sit down and you can see the scenery out your window or something like that, or even the possibility of hijacking ( or would that be to 9/11?).

-and last but not least, wider range of loading space or whatever its called where you park a car walk away come back and its gone, I would like to keep cars where I leave them no matter where i go regardless of loading times.

Lettermaniac
02-17-2007, 04:03 PM
Definatley want a huge environment. One that makes VC/LC tiny.
More realistic weapon sounds, never really liked San Andreas'.
The option to use indicators (turn signals).
Ragdoll.
Cars that get rusty and dirty over time. I know we saw a bit of it in San An but I think it can be done better.
Near non - existant loading times when going in and out of buildings, or no loading times at all for that.
Everything should have it's own physics. From a discarded trash can to a person.

Also, in early San Andreas screens I remember a lot more trees than what was in the final game. I think more dense areas of trees would be cool.

I'll probably post a lot more :)

5tatic
02-18-2007, 05:50 AM
http://www.gtagaming.com/gtagaming/wishlist

GTAGaming has its very own wishlist here. I don't know if Zidane's still updating it or whatever but check it out. Some of my ideas are there :)

Don
02-18-2007, 07:03 AM
Bloody and gory like GTA3, ragdoll physics.. Meh, not sure.

elyit
02-18-2007, 07:13 AM
Dunno your thoughts on this but in my opinion ragdoll is a lazy mans physics engine. anyone ever play spider man 2?? then youll know what im on about, when you got punched youll fall in to a heap on the floor like a damp sack of leeks, wtf ?? from memory in real life that dont happen, even in the most exteme cases limbs dont move like that. the only time when ragdoll works in game is on a dead body and then it works well. the rest of time it just makes the game character looks like he's gone a bit wrong. who agrees ?

T-Virus
02-18-2007, 07:41 AM
What would be important to me is the "Open ended missions"

Ya'll remember the mission in GTA3 where you must kill salvatore? Didn't you try that numerous times just to get a different kill on him? I know I did.
I'd like to see more of those.

For example; if a gang leader you need to take down has a daily habit. At 12 he goes to the restaurant, at 15 he is taken back home, 18 he visits someone, and so on.
Then you could have several ways of taking him down. You could place C4 by his car, you could snipe him while he enters the restaurant etc. BUT, if you kill him while someone notices, the gang will hate you, and try to kill you later on in-game too. Then again, if you kill him while noone notices, you are free to go. Gang won't touch you.

elyit
02-18-2007, 09:50 AM
you mean more of a "mercenairies PoD" game approach, man that game rocked, it was like ahead of its time.

but yeah back to the wishlist,
1)more detail when it comes to weapons, faces, hands (have you seen the hands in gta sa!!)

2)more purchasable items like mp3 players so you can listen to music whilst on foot

3)improve the stealth element i know this WAS in gta sa but who even used it apart from in the missions where you had to and where it was made blatantly obvious

********** i have far too many ideas **********
read on if you want


4)crash physics like burnout, with the power of the ps3 theyll be better than burnout

5)fully creatable characters like the sims then the character you make will decide which pre set storyline you will play through

6)in gta sa there were bustops yeah ? well where was the public busses? (not coaches) this could also be made a part of the game using public transport (hahaha could be shit but anyway)

7)cool terrain to discover i really like wandering around "back o beyond" in gta sa why not have like secrect islands that are purposely left off the map for you to find

8)whats with the car washes?? theyre there so why dont they work.......

9)we need more natural things for eample you may think there were rivers in gta sa but did they actually flow? we need stuff like rapids, currents, eddies etc where you can just get in a dhingie and chill out and let the current take you (or row) :)

Slim Trashman
02-18-2007, 10:55 AM
There are too many things to hope for I can't even name them all. I'll list a few though.

- Ragdoll
- New, better, weapon SFX
- More realistic graphically
- Massive gameplay area with variety such as San Andreas'
- New vehicles, especially adding a variety of planes and boats (cruise ships/submarines anyone?)
- More realistic and new weather system (tornadoes, etc)
- Amazingly accurate and realistic water physics

ETC.

Don
02-18-2007, 05:28 PM
Dunno your thoughts on this but in my opinion ragdoll is a lazy mans physics engine. anyone ever play spider man 2?? then youll know what im on about, when you got punched youll fall in to a heap on the floor like a damp sack of leeks, wtf ?? from memory in real life that dont happen, even in the most exteme cases limbs dont move like that. the only time when ragdoll works in game is on a dead body and then it works well. the rest of time it just makes the game character looks like he's gone a bit wrong. who agrees ?

True but, even then it would look better than how it looks now.

A possible addition would be limbs detaching from the body, flying everywhere. (due to explosions or something).

Or when you hit someone really hard with a car, heh.

Slim Trashman
02-18-2007, 05:31 PM
^Exactly, I love that gore stuff in GTA. The gore cheat in GTAIII = <3

Pale2hall
02-18-2007, 06:37 PM
i think it would be cool if you could access your music form your ps3 or xb36 and have a station of MP3s while playing.

i would lovve that!

Jimmy_86
02-18-2007, 07:33 PM
I hope they don't make it too easy as I've seen a lot of compaining about how hard previous GTA's were. Compared to other games I think GTA is just right. Maybe it will have the dynamic difficulty adjustment of SA, although I don't know how that worked or how to recognise it happening.

Although a large map area is nice, there is such thing as too large which I hope it isn't. I like to feel that I can learn my way around.

-The "random" (dynamic) radio system from SA, or somethig similar/improved, would be excellent.
-A map feature that shows "packages" etc that have been collected as in VCS.
-Even more things to spend money on.
-A Skycrane that you can use anytime, not just in a mission.
-Increase the variety of vehicles, like in VC you had a faggio up to a skimmer or hunter, in SA you had things from a BMX up to Hydra/AT400. Extend the ends of the vehicle spectrum.
- a plane that you are a passenger of , you get in sit down and you can see the scenery out your window or something like that, or even the possibility of hijacking ( or would that be to 9/11?).

SA had this (without hijacking). Would be nice though.

6)in gta sa there were bustops yeah ? well where was the public busses? (not coaches) this could also be made a part of the game using public transport (hahaha could be shit but anyway)
VC had bus stops where coaches would go round the route picking up/dropping off passengers and you could take a coach and do the same for tiny amounts of cash. An improved public transport system would add to the life of a city. That said, driving somewhere and listening to the radio is usually more fun in game.

victim
02-18-2007, 11:56 PM
Gameplay:

- Ragdoll: you get bored of the San Andreas animations, ragdoll would spice it up. It's important it's not overdone, or underdone at the same time.
- Better blood: It should spray everywhere and if your enemy is standing in front of a wall, with Ragdoll, they should fall back against the wall and leave blood stains.
- Discarded rubbish, think cans of drink on the side of the road that would roll down hills, not just the simple newspaper.
- Wind: Using the RAGE wind could become a prominent feature. Think about running along with hair blowing in the wind. Also wind would affect the rubbish stated above.
- Sweat: When you run out of stamina and youv'e been running quickly or for a long period of time.
- Darker at night: San Andreas never took full advantage of shadows. I want a truly eerie feeling.
- Melee Stealth kills: They were touched upon in San Andreas, but using shadows so enemies can't see you like stated above.
- Less people out about in the early stages of morning, obviously a few exceptions can be made.

When it comes down to it, I don't care what kind of storyline we get, as long as the way Rockstar deliver the story is the same, I will be happy. San Andreas and Vice City had completely different stories, yet I found both amazing.

Vehicle:

- Over 500 vehicles (How many did San An have?)
- Better vehicle customization: More paint jobs, more spoilers.

City:

- A map probably 3 times the size of San Andreas with fully rendered buildings.
- Two huge cities: One city approximately the size of San Andreas.
- Country in between. 1/5th country.

All I can really think of now. Eh.

Lettermaniac
02-19-2007, 12:01 AM
I like your idea on blood. If you've played Scarface: The World is Yours you'll know how awesome the right blood effects can looks. It should spray on the walls behind the victim, etc.

The top Don
02-19-2007, 01:22 AM
- natural disasters
- realistic water and boat, car and plane/heli physics
-3 times the size Of SA
-being able to go to vice, liberty and San Andreas
-NOT SET IN A REAL PLACE
-better blood physics (better then scarfaces)

m_richy66
02-19-2007, 05:48 AM
It should spray on the walls behind the victim, etc.


I think what Manhunt used was perfect, mabey this could be used?

Son606
02-19-2007, 06:59 AM
The things I'd wish for in GTA IV are better graphics and character models, bigger cities, harder missions, multiple playable characters, a NO POLICE cheat, helicopter asset missions, skateboarding, hitch hikers, less carjacking and more ownership of vehicles, better AI and wild animals which can attack!

Apart from those, my main wish is that it gets released for the PC !!!

Don
02-19-2007, 09:54 AM
I hope they don't make it too easy as I've seen a lot of compaining about how hard previous GTA's were.

To be honest, all the GTA games so far were easy as hell. GTA3 was kinda difficult at the beginning but I guess that was mainly because the game was 'new' and stuff.

gtachuggy
02-19-2007, 11:06 AM
I like all the ideas mentioned so far, but Ive had an online idea, basically, you spawn in the map with thousands of others (MMO), but the players have effects on the map, eg gang a is a mafia type, so their turf becomes mafia styled etc. I also think it would be good if you could buy property online from money you earn in single player mode, and customise it. You could use it as a base of operations, and keep your cars, weapons etc here. Mind you, you could go it alone and become a hired killer, wasting people online for cash......:)

elyit
02-19-2007, 02:18 PM
even if we arent intending it we certainly are steering our GTA IV game there!!
I think with the power of the PS3 and the size of a Blu ray disk you could go bezerk with conten for GTA IV. Let me put things in perspective here (i sound like such a know it all, lol, sorry). yeah GTA SA was roughly 4.7 GB needed for a full install (see the back of your case today !!!!yay!!!!) lets say 5 GB for simplicity the Blu ray disk has a maximum capacity of 50 GB..................remember to breathe now.................so 10x the size of GTA SA is easilly possible (remember we rounded up) in the great scheme of things you could have a game world 4/5x the size of gta sa and at the same time manage some top end graphics :eek:

:) just somthin for you to mull upon:)

m_richy66
02-19-2007, 06:14 PM
even if we arent intending it we certainly are steering our GTA IV game there!!
I think with the power of the PS3 and the size of a Blu ray disk you could go bezerk with conten for GTA IV. Let me put things in perspective here (i sound like such a know it all, lol, sorry). yeah GTA SA was roughly 4.7 GB needed for a full install (see the back of your case today !!!!yay!!!!) lets say 5 GB for simplicity the Blu ray disk has a maximum capacity of 50 GB..................remember to breathe now.................so 10x the size of GTA SA is easilly possible (remember we rounded up) in the great scheme of things you could have a game world 4/5x the size of gta sa and at the same time manage some top end graphics :eek:

:) just somthin for you to mull upon:)


This game is going onto the xbox360 as well so sadly it wont be using the full power of the ps3. But mabey Rockstar will add extra stuff to keep ps3 owners happy?

Lynk
02-20-2007, 08:04 AM
- The Weapons: For god's sake, the grand theft auto series has a tendency to reuse a lot of the weapons.
In San Andreas the weapons were horrible with terrible sound effects. A bigger amount of Assault rifles are needed.

- Ragdolls: It's a given, I'd really like to see them use that new Euro physics engine rather than Havoc. I never really found Havoc accurate.

- Online: GTA online is excellent, it's been proven with SA:MP and MTA:VC but Rockstar have yet to make an official online mode for any of their games, this being the first game in a new chapter should include a feature that is revolutionising the way people play games.

elyit
02-20-2007, 12:44 PM
- The Weapons: For god's sake, the grand theft auto series has a tendency to reuse a lot of the weapons.
In San Andreas the weapons were horrible with terrible sound effects. A bigger amount of Assault rifles are needed.

Well instead of them giving us hundreds of weapons why not have a suitable amount and allow us to "mod" them as in adding surpressors, scopes, sights, larger clips, change the colour. the amount of weapons would be truly endless. i also favour the idea of having a favourite weapon, a feature should be introduced allowing you to set a favourite wepon (can be changed but only one is allowed) this means that youd start the game with a set amount of ammo of that weapon each time you realod your game ( only if your ammo was lower than the set amount) it would aslo unlock futher cunstomization abilities unlocking new ammo to be used with it (eg exploding rounds...on a deagle ooohhh). kind of like (and i hate myslef for saying it) but a true crime approach when it comes to a standard weapon you keep throughout the game.

CaliMex
02-20-2007, 12:56 PM
I like your idea on blood. If you've played Scarface: The World is Yours you'll know how awesome the right blood effects can looks. It should spray on the walls behind the victim, etc.

Going the same way as my previous post, here are some new actions with the environment:
- Blood should spray all around like onto vehicles, buildings, people and chicken nuggets. (in response to the quote above)
- In scarface, you could shootout windows on all the buildings (I think) and missed shots would leave a mark on walls when you miss. It should be like the blood where it leaves a mark on anything, even my nuggets.
- Including the top 2, bruises should form on the main character's face when getting in a fist fight. Bruises, bullet holes and blood stains is somthing I'd like to wear.
- We should be able to enter more buildings without the need to begin a mission, ie the burglar mission. Opening doors, windows and walls (with explosives) in order to gain entry should be good.
- Overall, the game doesn't need a bigger area than San Andreas, what I want is more content in the world that we can interact with

Weapons:
- I always like choice, especially if there are some differences between the guns and melee weapons
- We should be able to buy the ammo while looking at it and not the gun. Why do we have to pay more for the same ammo when we want to use a better weapon. Of course you could buy the cheaper weapon then the better one after accumulating ammo but then I also never bought weapons, I searched for them. It just never made any sense.
- We should be able to modify any weapon by buying silencers, bigger clip attachments for double the ammo before reloading, etc. In Scarface, you could add a shotgun attachment on the AK and a grenade flinger on the M4. I want a grenade flinger on my M4.
Looks like someone above me mentioned the weapon customization while I took like 13 minutes to post. Me likey.

Vehicles:
- Vehicles need better models for their "after explosion look", why can't they just be in pieces?
- Better variety of vehicles wouldn't hurt
- Bigger selection of paint jobs and parts that you can modify your car with.

So many things, so little time and very little chance Rockstar may hear me. *cries* Oooo, chicken nuggets!

Is someone going to compile a list of all our wishes or not? Or should I, or you or someone?

Lettermaniac
02-20-2007, 08:17 PM
I like most of the ideas in this thread. I'd like to see most of the stuff you guys have mentioned new in the game, but I don't want it to be too different. I mean, GTA has a real feeling to it, I don't want the next games to loose that style I love. But I think Rockstar can only do better than they already have with this game.

Terminator-UK
02-21-2007, 11:28 AM
Controled Law Enforcers.
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High Speed Car Chase - Police
Rampage In The Street - SWAT
Large Bank Robbery - FBI
City Evacuated Because Of You Too Dangerous - Army

Cool?

Don
02-21-2007, 01:04 PM
I like all the ideas mentioned so far, but Ive had an online idea, basically, you spawn in the map with thousands of others (MMO), but the players have effects on the map, eg gang a is a mafia type, so their turf becomes mafia styled etc. I also think it would be good if you could buy property online from money you earn in single player mode, and customise it. You could use it as a base of operations, and keep your cars, weapons etc here. Mind you, you could go it alone and become a hired killer, wasting people online for cash......:)

Cool ideas but, I don't think it would really 'suit' GTA to become one of those huge online games. Online multiplayer is cool, but not with thousands of people :P

5tatic
02-21-2007, 01:36 PM
mmorpg ftl

Stick to action. I want some good firm death match games. Maybe a CTF match. I could imagine it right now.
Player01 has stolen your flag
*Static hunts the person down in a hunter*
The flag as been returned

ivar87
02-21-2007, 03:29 PM
mmorpg ftl

Stick to action. I want some good firm death match games. Maybe a CTF match. I could imagine it right now.
Player01 has stolen your flag
*Static hunts the person down in a hunter*
The flag as been returned
That ain't gta man. Something similar to SA-MP would be cool and fitting to the theme of the game (GTA in general).

- Usable trunk. Different size for every car. Every item (dead bodies, rocks, crates whatever) has a fixed size, and then it can be put into a trunk that can fit it. Take a truck and you can put your bike there with ease and transport it. Put a dead body or dead bodies in the trunk, dump the load. Awesome. Weapons too.
- PLEASE normal steering. GTASA's steering was crazy.
- Stronger cars. It's really REALLY hard to drive one single car without sprayshop from one end of the map to the other (without dents).
- Ability to kidnap people. Like with a minivan. But you have to have a friend recruited, who's in the back and pulls the person in. You're the driver.
- The same aiming method that was used in SA's PC version. That rocked.
- Bulletholes, in people, cars and walls/trees/etc
- Better sprites for gunfire
There's more things, but they're either mentioned already or for some reason I don't think about them right now.

I know these will definately not be in it ever, but still, worth a try :D
- Wildlife. All kinds of different animals. Land and sea.
- Different ages for people. From infant to almost dead.

Don
02-21-2007, 03:38 PM
mmorpg ftl

Stick to action. I want some good firm death match games. Maybe a CTF match. I could imagine it right now.
Player01 has stolen your flag
*Static hunts the person down in a hunter*
The flag as been returned

Hell no :(

I would hate that.

elyit
02-21-2007, 04:57 PM
By Ivar87 "- Ability to kidnap people. Like with a minivan. But you have to have a friend recruited, who's in the back and pulls the person in. You're the driver."

one question...........Why?, itd be fun like once then itd just get odd and tedious. the other ideas were simple yet effective though

so back to having a favourite weapon then! whats ppls thoughts on this True crime appraoch i reckon it could really take off, cos doesnt everyone find it frustrating when you get to a point where youre getting beaten up by a civillian with a spade only cos youve run out weapons, but you know youre really good at the game WHHYY ??

ivar87
02-21-2007, 06:29 PM
one question...........Why?, itd be fun like once then itd just get odd and tedious. the other ideas were simple yet effective though


Get money and have fun. YOu can do lots of things with kidnapped people. You can sell their organs on the black market, slavery, prostitution and even just ransom. FUn new way to collect some monies.
I'd like it anyways :D

.:nemesis:.
02-21-2007, 06:36 PM
Dont know if this idea has been posted, what about a side mission of being a bounty hunter, to obviously make money, there would be clues to the offenders whereabouts and when captured, you take them to a cop shop.

ivar87
02-21-2007, 06:45 PM
Dont know if this idea has been posted, what about a side mission of being a bounty hunter, to obviously make money, there would be clues to the offenders whereabouts and when captured, you take them to a cop shop.
"Extended Vigilante Mode"
:)

Fry
02-22-2007, 06:28 AM
ManHunt's stealth system, Make it so you can flex from the cops and hide in someones backyard and if the cop doesn't see you jump the fence he will continue to run down the street. But if he see's you jump it he will jump it too, Because i hated how i would hide from the cops in SA only to be spotted quicker then a topless women at the beach.

I want to be able to climb building by using window ledges and anything that stick out from wall to climb, Simlar to SA but more like Crackdown.

Blood Spray

A Navy Seals team that comes after you if the army cant catch you when you have 6 stars.

A small Navy boat (with cannons) that you can steal (but it would be hard) or if you have 6 stars and are in a boat it will come after you. Or if you are on land it will hang around off shore and maybe drop off the SEALS.

More Vehicles.

More Weather conditions.

Peds that murder, rob, steal and sell you stuff on the streets.

ivar87
03-01-2007, 07:09 PM
One more thing that would ROCK so much is the DarknessTV. It's a system used in the awesome game called The Darkness. Basically it's like this: every TV that is seen in the game shows real movies, cartoons, tvshows etc. Now think how awesome it would be, if you try to rob someones home in GTA4 and see what they're watching behind the window. Real shows, kids watching toons (lol, i wish), groups of dudes watching sports together and having beers. All that in GTA. Rawr.

JMR
03-02-2007, 01:26 AM
I've thought about this a lot, and while this seems like a lot, this isn't the entire thought process of what I want in GTA IV.


Ragdoll physics. I was told they were going to be in SA, and they weren't. Now, there's no excuse for R* not putting them in.
Mafia theme. I hated the "OG/rapper/hood" theme of SA. Bring back what worked: black suits, mobsters, and hitmen.
Instead of a rediculously-enormous area to play in, quality over quantity. Keep it down to a single city, but make it very detailed. Also, add dynamic changes to the scenery over time, such as snow, avalanches (if mountains are present), etc. Hell, even have changes by missions, like in LCS, when the player bombed the building, except on a larger scale, and perhaps make it go insanely detailed.
Character creation. Saint's Row did it. Your turn, R*. Hell, I'll even take just a few different people to play as, ala Crackdown and The Getaway.
Improved fighting system. Nothing too major, just something that gives me a great feeling when I kick someone's ass, like in Dark Messiah: Might and Magic.
Online multiplayer. R*, everyone's begged for it, and if it could be tweaked to be applicable, MMO GTA would be simply amazing.

passage
03-02-2007, 06:17 AM
What I really want is for the cops to actually chase people committing crimes-but not the scripted shit that was in SA.

i.e someone jacks your car, he triggers a wanted level on himself, appropriate cops come.

T-Virus
03-02-2007, 06:39 AM
The most important thing to me is the surroundings in the city. I really hope they put effort into making it feel like a real life city. f.ex:

- Rush hours.
- People sitting on cafeterias, buying groceries, getting home from cinemas.
- A "living" Downtown, not practicly deserted like earlier GTA's

Open ended missions:
- Like Crackdown, I'd like to see enemy gangs get weaker if you take out their weapon supply.
- I'd like to see more missions a'la the killing Salvatore one in GTA3. You get a time to kill a dude, but you can do it however you wish.

and of course SNOW!!

Lettermaniac
03-02-2007, 03:05 PM
I'm hoping we'll get some great weather effects. Not seasons, just the odd huge thunderstorm or something.

Himuro
03-02-2007, 07:52 PM
One of the biggest things I want is better integration of npc's. I don't just want npc's that are doing nothing but walking to random places, and I can't tell one npc from another because they all have similar skins. I'd like to interact with them, and if I can't do that, I'd at least like to be able to have subtitles so I can here the what the fuck they say. Since I have a slight hearing problem I can't always get the jokes they say unless I turn my volume all the way up.

I want npc's to actually have lives. This was implemented in GTASA, but it could be done better. I've kinda been ruined by Shenmue. In that game every single npc had a name, they had a daily routine and place to stay. They all had their own daily routine (such as buy groceries, go to work, fish;etc.) and it was fun interacting with them. Shit like that, is what helps create the most amazing atmosphere, and I really hope Rockstar does something to implement that. It would be hard work, but oh man, would the benefits rock.

One of my biggest problems with the other 3d GTA's was that the npc's were totally lifeless and boring. I don't know. I never gave them a second thought, and while I'm probably wishing for something that's more rpg-ish, I think GTA would benefit. It would be cool if you could kill these people you just happened to meet on the street that you formed a connection with, and see the effects of your actions, rather than killing with no consequences whatsoever other than a statistics screen increase, and the fuzz hot on your tail. I wouldn't want something like this with every npc in the game, because that'd be overkill, but to be able to interact with just a few would be nice.

kent_paul
03-02-2007, 09:16 PM
may be a Career such as I want to join the marines and so you go to boot camp.:) :violent: :Peace:

Cutts
03-03-2007, 05:43 AM
My Wishlist? I dont really have one. I just want the game to be amazing and set somewhere in America. They are always good. But really I want:
- Ragdoll, not really dramatic ragdoll, just lifelike.
- The Ability to buy shops, we had this option in SA but I dont feel it was looked upon enough. So maybe you could buy a diner, then go around the town finding waitresses and Barmen etc.

phreak
03-03-2007, 09:06 AM
Normally I don't bother with wishlists, but here goes:

Physics: I want Euphoria, 'nuff said.

Graphics: Doesn't have to be GoW type stuff, but make them at least better than Saints Row. Make them up to 360 and PS3 standards, no more nasty textures and crappy looking cars, gives the cars SOME KIND of interior. Engines should be 3-D as well, and the guns should reflect light.

Character: I don't want a fully customizable character like Saints Row, lets have an established, main central character like Tommy Vercetti or even Claude, someone EVERYBODY will get to know.

Cars: Lots of them. Cars that look more like their real life counterparts. If this is an American based game, I want to see more Vipers, Corvettes, Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Porsches etc, and MAKE THEM VERY RARE. Not so rare to where you will never see one, but also not to the point where you will see five "Vipers" in a row. Make the cars fasters, and, implement a speedometer if at all possible. BUT, only put a speedo in if there are set speed limits in the city and the cops will pursue you for going too much over. I want to see a lot better crash physics too. Crumpling, scratching, pieces dragging and creating sparks. And when cars blow up, it's not just a few panels flying off and they turn all black (see Crackdown for the 'improved version' I'm talking about). Handling? I like the way GTA has it, cars are easy to drive and don't have a hard time turning/braking, so don't change that much.

Weapons: Don't really care, as long as they don't suck. The only thing I need to say here is I really want the REAL weapon names back, that's how I started to learn a little bit about guns.

Clothes: Anything like SA would be fine with me honestly, I don't like the "old" style like in VC, the Stories etc.

That's really about it, but more than anything, lets get some info and screens rolling :)

iKlipse
03-03-2007, 09:35 AM
Heres my wishlist:

Gore
Ever since the first GTA in '97 there has been gore. Gore has improved alot since then. Time to put it up quite a notch with much much more realistic gore to keep the players entertained. If you shoot someone and they have there back pointing at a wall, youd see a bloodsplatter on the wall just like Counter Strike. I say R* puts this in. I want to blow a pedestrians head off with a snier rifle and see the blood splattered all over the wall topped with peices of the skull and brain. A little bit sick but realism adds fun.

I want to see bullet holes. GTA has never, ever ever ever ever ever had bullet holes in any object in the game. Time to make a change. If you shoot a building there should be a nice hole in it, if you shoot a car there should be a nice hole in it, if you shoot a window there should be a nice hole in it and if you shoot a pedestrian... there should be a nice hole in it. If you shoot a pedestrian, I want to see a clean hole at the front and a big hole at the back. I want to see the skin get penetrated as the bullet goes through and I want to see a faint spray of blood on its exit. Bullet holes is one thing needed in GTA.

In GTA III, if you shot someone in the leg or arm the limb would come off. Time to put that back in. If you shoot someone say... In the shoulder, I want to see their arm almost or atleast rip off, followed by strips of meat and blood. If you shoot someone with a minigun, id like the see them get ripped apart or close to it. With explosions and rockets, there should be hardly anything left of the pedestrian or atleast a mangled body.

Thats enough of gore

Physics
In previous GTA's no one and I mean no one what so ever has gone through the windsheild in a car accident or been killed in a mass accident. If your speeding down the street and happen to hit a pedestrian which flew up in between the wheel and the mud guard of the car and stuffed up your steering, you should beable to hit a pole or a wall and fly out the winsheild. Thats not all I'd like to see in an accident, I'd like to see the car mangle up and see the pole make its way through the car and seeing the engine get forced into the dashboard and winsheild of the car. All this should be able to put your and your passengers life at a huge risk.

Ragdoll physics on pedestrians would've always been fun. If you hit a person while driving your car, watching them spin and flip would be good fun.
I've jumped of the big building in LS and always try to smack CJ's face and shins on the freeway or buildings below. If you happen to hit something on the way down, it should make you spin out of control and lead you to your death.

If someone is dead on the ground I want them to be all floppy and funny.

Driving physics need to be put up a notch aswell. The driving in GTA has been very easy and I think it would be nice to make it way more realistic with speed, steering, breaking and having your tires popped. if there is a sharp object on the road and you happen to hit it, I'd like to see the tire get ripped apart or slowly go down after htting the object.

Features
Eating in San Andreas got very annoying but it adds realism. What they needed were a hunger bar in stats and a quicker way to order food in San Andreas or have a drive thru.

Weapons in GTA have been good so far. It could be better if you were able to modify the gun for e.g. you buy a 303. then buy a scope, you add the scope, then buy a laser for it, add the laser. I think that would be a really good feature in GTA.

Characters have been really nice so far. I'm sure with GTA IV being next gen, the characters are going to be 50X or more better. If they are, I want to see realistic eye balls, tongues, teeth, hair... Everything. If a ped says "Your an idiot", the ped should shoe his emotions towards the way it was said. If they said it like "YOURE AN IDIOT!" with a mad expression, I want to see the characters face turn from normal to pissed off or just look as through they might be thinking "WTF?". If the pedestrian said it as a joke I would to see that character chuckle or put on a faint grin.

Artificial Intelligence
The driving in San Andreas totally sucked when it came to driving on the freeways. I want to see indicators that change 3 seconds before they switch lanes just so you have a bit of time to slow down and avoid smashing up your vehicle. Smoother drivers would be good aswell, they take to sharp turns even when theyre going at like 100 kph. A good example of that is that windy road north east of LS next to the freeway.

Pedestrians in GTA are reletively dumb. San Andreas improved that by letting them have conversations and compliments. Seeing a much improved version of that would be better. I'd like them to make actions as they compliment you like if they compliment you about your shoes, they should make a little point and look at them and say "Nice shoes, whereyou get them at?" and your character should say "Thanks, theyre nice shoes, got them from Victim". More detailed questions and answers would be a nice touch to AI.

Pedestrians ducking and searching for cover is really needed. I want to beable to fire in the air and pedestrians freak out and jump over a wall/fence and hide or atleast duck against one. If you point a gun at ones head, I want to see the fear in their face like someone would make if a gun was pointed at them.

Pedestrians needs lives. In gta pedestrians have had no lives and just strolled the streets like zombies. I think every pedestrian should have a life. It'd be hard to do but it would make GTA alot more interesting to stalk them on their daily duties and them kill them. I'd like to beable to steal their car at 5:00 before they leave at 6:00 for work and fit it with a bomb and place it back the way I stole it then watch them make their way inside and watch it explode.

If pedestrians see another get killed or see a car accident or explosion. They should get shocked for a few seconds like scream and look around while a few others run up to the scene and say stuff like "oh my god!" "shit" and try to save lifes of people if they are alive.

I'd like to see drug deals not only on the street but in a secluded area between men with black luxury cars, helicopters and suit cases. Of course the character GTA cant be to only one making deals in the place. I think they should take place and you can watch it happen but if your seen, you get chased down until you or they are dead, you can steal the drugs and money afterwards.

Cops in GTA were pretty damn stupid in ways, I want them to search for you, not just know where you are in an instant. If you run away unseen and hide in a backyard in the shadows, I want to see the helicopter fly around with its search light. I want to see cops walk around with flashlights and reporting their status on the radio. You all know the rest so.. not really any point in saying the rest of it.

Yeah theres mine.

phreak
03-03-2007, 09:57 AM
"I'd like to beable to steal their car at 5:00 before they leave at 6:00 for work and fit it with a bomb and place it back the way I stole it then watch them make their way inside and watch it explode."

THAT would be awesome. Like Lips Forelli in GTA III.

Sleepernaut
03-03-2007, 11:04 AM
Working pinball machine.

Bitch.

I'm a Robot
03-03-2007, 11:48 AM
-How about purchaseable console machines and we have to go to stores like a gamestop and we got to purchase games for it.

-Also Better character models and better graphical textures.

-Maybe Hurricanes,Tornados,Flood,Thunderstorms,Icestorms, Snowstorms,etc.

-A purchaseable MP3 player that we can take on Jogs,Walks,Killing sprees,etc.

-A purchaseable computer that we can plug our MP3 player to and download music.

-More Myths that are in the game i just love myths it was kinda dissappointing that some of the most interesting myths like Bigfoot or Leatherface turned out to be fake.

-Murder and robberies with peds on the streets.

-Bank robberies like the 44 minutes robbery (fox based movie

5tatic
03-03-2007, 11:52 AM
I so want robberies like the Warrior too. Breaking in, smashing up the place,and stealing stuff. Maybe, this time, you could keep the stuff and sell it to a pwn shop or keep it in your house.

Himuro
03-03-2007, 02:06 PM
I want the fighting system to be Warriors esque. That game had the best R* fighting system.

I'm a Robot
03-03-2007, 02:57 PM
I want the fighting system to be Warriors esque. That game had the best R* fighting system. What about Bully.

Anyways...

-Ragdoll physics

-A better fighting system

-No one will look the same in IV everyone has their own id and they don't look the same. They could look similar to someone but not the same.

-Maybe more stars than just 6 cause sometimes the army just can't get the job done so then it's up to a stronger military power like the Marines or the Navy.

-Maybe a clothing system similar to Bully's cause Bully's seemed to me to have the best clothing system from any of Rockstar's games.

-Gruesome executions like Manhunt.

-Lets say you get busted by the fuzz and you are sent to prison well lets say it's for murder well this mean your in prison for life prison will be your home/save place... Unless you break out or for a simple crime like car jacking like 3 or 4 weeks in prison. So the worst the crime the worst the punishment. So wat ever u do don't drop the soap.

Thats all I can think of for right now.

Himuro
03-03-2007, 03:12 PM
Bully's fight system is based around The Warriors' fighting system.

Cutts
03-03-2007, 03:14 PM
Good Points GaF. With the gore, maybe they could take it to the next level. When you shoot a guy in the stomach, I dont want him to do instantly, I want him laying on the floor screaming in agony. He should put his hand over the wound but blood will seep out. Also, when you shoot a guy point blank with a shotgun part of his body is obviously going to come off. It should be like GoW, but not so dramatic.

BritishGangSta
03-03-2007, 03:15 PM
I'd like to see...
A pickpocket minigame.
Working elevators.
A lot of various buildings having interiors that aren't seperate from the map and don't have to load.
Working escalators.
A shoplifting minigame
A very diverse and realistic city. (little touches like the porn theater and Misty's apartment in GTAIII that had music you could hear from outside to set a realistic mood.)
Unpredictable story with dynamic characters.
They could definitely add more vehicles and modes of transportation.
and..a well crafted and unhurried game with very few glitches and bugs.

rcguy150
03-03-2007, 03:15 PM
I just wants a living, breathing, CROWDED city with very realistic weather + lighting, and more ways of public transportation..like, i want to be able to actually use the taxis and buses, and even perhaps a subway/muni system would be nice.

Cutts
03-03-2007, 03:17 PM
With weather they could say like on the Radio with warnings about Tornados etc.

Lettermaniac
03-03-2007, 03:35 PM
After playing a lot of Saints Row you realise how important the little things in the game are.

- If a car drives past you, you should be able to hear their radio. I thought this was a great little feature.
- Some crappy cars shouldn't have a radio at all. You could fit them with one though.
- An MP3 player you could use, say if you went to the gym to work out, so you could listen to music.
- Like GaF said, a drive thru so that buying food wouldn't be so tedious.

DBD
03-03-2007, 05:59 PM
I've thought about this a lot, and while this seems like a lot, this isn't the entire thought process of what I want in GTA IV.


Ragdoll physics. I was told they were going to be in SA, and they weren't. Now, there's no excuse for R* not putting them in.
Mafia theme. I hated the "OG/rapper/hood" theme of SA. Bring back what worked: black suits, mobsters, and hitmen.
Instead of a rediculously-enormous area to play in, quality over quantity. Keep it down to a single city, but make it very detailed. Also, add dynamic changes to the scenery over time, such as snow, avalanches (if mountains are present), etc. Hell, even have changes by missions, like in LCS, when the player bombed the building, except on a larger scale, and perhaps make it go insanely detailed.
Character creation. Saint's Row did it. Your turn, R*. Hell, I'll even take just a few different people to play as, ala Crackdown and The Getaway.
Improved fighting system. Nothing too major, just something that gives me a great feeling when I kick someone's ass, like in Dark Messiah: Might and Magic.
Online multiplayer. R*, everyone's begged for it, and if it could be tweaked to be applicable, MMO GTA would be simply amazing.

I couldn't agree more with everything, except the one city idea.


I also think it would be a good idea to have tornadoes, and hurricanes.
Also, as PastorRichardsFanatic said, like, on the radio it comes on, "Tornado warning, "city", stay inside!" etc etc, and you can actually be affected by the tornado and everything.

Also, a bigfoot or something would own. Sorry, I had to say it :D

walter
03-03-2007, 06:06 PM
Yeah, that would be amazing. The city being destroyed etc., and over time it slowly rebuilds itself. Also, I would like to see more than one city, a bit bigger than san andreas imo. The only thing though is that R* better be pretty creative if they want to make a huge enviroment. For example, if they had the whole enviroment as urban, it would get pretty boring over time. They should make it close to SA, ghetto in some parts, countryside, and some urban areas also.

victim
03-03-2007, 06:28 PM
Here's my two cents towards character customization.

Overall Customization: A main character, not somebody you make yourself at the beginning of the game. With just more options than CJ had so you can customize him to your likings.

Clothes: Similar to San Andreas. More options, not everything should be preset. Try putting a different jacket over a different shirt. For example the jackets you buy don't automatically come with a shirt underneath.

Hair: A lot more variety. It should be better done to. You choose your hairstyle, you can choose your facial hair too, so you can mix and match. Instead of having Cesar with Beard.

Food: Eating is not a necessity. However you can still build muscle and eat to get fat if you really want to.

walter
03-03-2007, 06:34 PM
For changing clothes, I personally think that it should be similar, if not, the same as bully's slothing system. Clicking on different clothing stores that you bought from when changing outfits can be very tedious and time consuming.

Lettermaniac
03-03-2007, 06:39 PM
I'm not too fussed on changing the character customization system.

I like what Victim said about different combinations. As long as the way we didn't wasn't tedious and didn't take as long as San Andreas' I'd be fine with it.

FG
03-03-2007, 07:10 PM
Real life interiors , that when you take your guy into the save house he actually cooks dinner,takes a shower ,watches a real tv show .. really ..the tv will have a great show on it , or the news ,etc; a news story about your guy , involved in the latest event. With a real news anchor giving the details. He is actually in bed ,not for hours ,but like in a movie ,you see him getting out of bed an putting his shoes on , just breifly ,you could cut it short if your in a hurry . I got more ,ideas.....later. :)

Lettermaniac
03-03-2007, 07:25 PM
I doubt that'd be included. I mean, it's very realistic but really isn't what the game is about.

Olin
03-03-2007, 07:31 PM
The most I can expect is the main character getting into bed, a fade to black and back six hours later and him getting out. POSSIBLY some varying animations based on the location.

passage
03-03-2007, 07:32 PM
Sounds too much like an RPG to me. Too many FPS are starting to implement too much RPG shit, I don't really want GTA to go down that path.

FG
03-03-2007, 07:36 PM
Well...back to the real game , it do`nt hurt to wish a little....Yeah , do it in away as not to be nothing like RPG.....that would suck. Id like our guy to hijack the space shuttle an go into orbit....I know that will not get into the game either , you think.

Olin
03-03-2007, 07:38 PM
Uhhh.. let's be a little more rational here.

FG
03-03-2007, 07:45 PM
ok , how about harleys you can customize. :)

Lettermaniac
03-03-2007, 07:45 PM
Actually motorbike customization would be cool. Should have been included in San An imo.

FG
03-03-2007, 07:51 PM
@ LM...yeah , I wondered about that .Such a big part of that whole scene. :)

Olin
03-03-2007, 07:54 PM
Customization is nice and all, but I don't want it to be too extensive. I really enjoyed Vice City's clothing setup over San Andreas'.

victim
03-03-2007, 07:55 PM
Customization in general needs to be improved. Snazzy paint jobs for every car. The ability to turn the crappest car into a swinging convertible would be alright too. Although I doubt it.

Lettermaniac
03-03-2007, 07:56 PM
I really liked Saints Row's car customization. Pretty similar style to SA's, but the cars looked very good done up. Big range of ways to cusomize them too.

FG
03-03-2007, 07:58 PM
I like that idea , an a faster way of changing cloths an styling the rides with out all those cuts to B&W.....the loading thing , you have doors you walk thru an no loading , most doors you have ..go into loading :)

victim
03-03-2007, 08:29 PM
A lot of GTA games will focus being on either pro-drugs or anti-drugs. I for one hope GTA IV is pro-drugs. There is just so much more possibilities storyline wise. Like friends becoming addicts etc.

gtaperson
03-04-2007, 10:42 AM
(1) Auto-Aim to target people in vehicles
(2) Be able to pop tires while doing a drive-by.
(3) Don't have burned-out car bodies disappear. (Maybe have a garbage truck to collect them).
(4) Don't treat people bodies as the rest of the vehicle. (Especially in lowriders, you shoot there chest and sparks come out).

This is really it.

ScoobyDoo82
03-04-2007, 10:54 AM
I think in the beginning of the game, you automaticly get 4 cars. And no matter how far you go away from them they never disappear, only if it blows up. Also, instead of cars blowing up just because of crashing damage, i think once the car gets really bad, airbags should just deploy and my the car undrivable.

Fudgster
03-04-2007, 11:28 AM
I think they should make it realistic. Like if you get shot in the leg you limp until you get healed. And if you're shot in the head you die. And if you get shot in the head with a shotgun or rifle it flies off.

ivar87
03-04-2007, 12:06 PM
I think they should make it realistic. Like if you get shot in the leg you limp until you get healed. And if you're shot in the head you die. And if you get shot in the head with a shotgun or rifle it flies off.
Not too realistic, they want to keep the game FUN, but not like tactical shooter fun where one hit is death or smth. The limping would be nice though.

DY
03-04-2007, 09:22 PM
I want there to be different weather eg: rain, sleet, snow.

Pick between different races a la Saints Row.

Cars where your wheels will fall off.

GTA Mike
03-04-2007, 11:46 PM
Better clothing, a faster clothe changing system, longer story, changeable story, more peds, more destroyable environments, larger map, more vehicles

orgesgashi
03-05-2007, 01:13 AM
- natural disasters
- realistic water and boat, car and plane/heli physics
-3 times the size Of SA
-being able to go to vice, liberty and San Andreas
-NOT SET IN A REAL PLACE
-better blood physics (better then scarfaces)
-Your Part Of Mafia
-You Have Grade like Gangsta, Mafia, Mob Boss
-You Can Become a cop
-Way Better Graphics
-Like San Andreas Type( like go gym, shops, eat, buy cloths)
-You Can Have Jobs
-Can have skate board,scooter etc
-Can die of heart attack
-Can pimp your car much better
-Can see people pimp your car
-Have tougher cops
-Have Lincinse plates
-Can get body guards
-Can have mafia/gangstas with you and if you have too many in your car they get a car and follow.
-More detailed house,guns,car etc

orgesgashi
03-05-2007, 01:18 AM
Have more sports
-Soccer
-Football
-Baseball
-Basketball
-Karate
-Street Fight
-Ufc
-Street Soccer, Basketball,Football
-Have Sport Clubs(you sign up for that club in the game and play with that club)
-Can have academy

FG
03-05-2007, 01:18 AM
I like the idea of body gaurds ...can you stash em in your save house till you need em ,lol. :) ^.....oh you might get a note on double posting , just a heads up .

.:nemesis:.
03-05-2007, 01:24 AM
orgesgashi please use the http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/images/gta/buttons/ edit.gif feature , double posting is not allowed in this forum.

Asif
03-05-2007, 01:29 AM
- First of all, a PC port - where modding wont be disabled.
- Bigger map than SA (of course).
- Talk radios, rich as VCPR.
- Expecting more varities in vehicles, specially among vehicles of flying type.
- Much better AI for Gang members so they could prove themselves worthy while in need.
- Bring back the spike strip please.

...will post more if I can remember of anything I've missed.

FG
03-05-2007, 01:33 AM
I like the idea of better AI for gang members , an how about more improved dialoge between them :)

.:nemesis:.
03-05-2007, 01:36 AM
PC port is a must.

Dont know if this idea has been posted, what about a side mission of being a bounty hunter, to obviously make money, there would be clues to the offenders whereabouts and when captured, you take them to a cop shop.
To get back to this...

How about if it was activated through wearing a special outfit from your wardrobe, then going to a marker at a cop shop, seems feasable since it was done in SA.

FG
03-05-2007, 01:39 AM
Yeah , that might be in this game it seems like a logical next step....@ CM :)

.:nemesis:.
03-05-2007, 01:53 AM
Some more...

Search and rescue with a helicopter.
Dogfights.
Bring back trucking missions.
Friends ( homies ) advising you of missions and the location of marker.

FG
03-05-2007, 01:55 AM
@ CM ...I defianatly like the last one , those homies or so boring in SA I just kept thinking I should just shoot em. :)

fluff
03-05-2007, 07:28 AM
I said it once and i will say it again climbing ladders its a simple thing to add and will help get to places

because when i was playing gta sa and i fell into the water near easter bay airport and had to swim the hole way around the airpot to get out of the water just because we cant climb ladders

phreak
03-05-2007, 07:45 AM
I said it once and i will say it again climbing ladders its a simple thing to add and will help get to places

because when i was playing gta sa and i fell into the water near easter bay airport and had to swim the hole way around the airpot to get out of the water just because we cant climb ladders

Yeah I HATED that. He could jump over walls, but couldn't climb a ladder? I forgot all about that. The ability to climb ladders MUST be put in.

Cpt_Chris
03-05-2007, 12:17 PM
euphoria is so much better than ragdoll

UKeTommyV
03-05-2007, 01:43 PM
ok heres what i think needs improvement

Vehicles:
- more real life cars and realistic car physics
- when i hit a pedestrian in SA , the car would almost stop dead WTF? bak in gta3 , running over pedestrian was fun as hell . in SA even if your driving a 4 TON vehicle , the pedestrians would almost stop you . what da hell
- realistic crashes i want to see my car split into 2 , i want to see my car top and such BEND in lots of ways
- make cars explotions more realistic
- hyper real physics when you shoot cars. bullets holes everywhere i want to see my car slowly destroy just by shooting at it , not just a copuple of bullets here and there and all i see is the car blow. take a look at the movie "heat" awesome job.
- if you travel at high speeds make the character go thru the windshield when you hit something heavy like a house.
-tires slowly fell off
-cars act more like lets say , need for speed ( under steer and such) dont go 2 gran tursimo . have a good balance.
- more planes how about a f18 superhornet. more realistic physics, ace of combat anyone? have realistic landing , take off that would be awsome

character:

-something more like socom , i think thats a great third person shooter , well balanced and realistic . everything from how guns sound, look and FEEL while shooting
- the shooting scheme in socom is great too , feels great while moving the crosshair if gta4 feels more like that it would kick butt.

i would put more but i have to bail. ill add more later :)

FG
03-05-2007, 01:44 PM
I said it once and i will say it again climbing ladders its a simple thing to add and will help get to places

because when i was playing gta sa and i fell into the water near easter bay airport and had to swim the hole way around the airpot to get out of the water just because we cant climb ladders
I agree , fluff I want climbing ladders...btw swim to one of the coast gaurd boats that are close by.:)

Japisee
03-05-2007, 01:59 PM
No eating. That was utterly pointless.

ivar87
03-05-2007, 02:00 PM
euphoria is so much better than ragdoll
Euphoria is ragdoll. Only it's advanced but still a ragdoll. It's like saying Ford Mustang ain't a car because the first car was Ford T or smth.

Wishlist addition:
- Pressing tab for instance will make the playable character put on his/her hood, hat, glasses or a mask that is chosen earlier from your closet/shop. I always hated in SA to see the drug dealer who wore a hoodie and had his hood on, I wanted to do it too :/
- Working mirrors on cars. I know they're small, but this adds valuable detail to the game and you can see something in it :) (Same thing goes to any reflective material in the game (puddles, windows etc))
- A part of the clothing system. You can choose the length and wideness of your pants, shirts, suits and sweatshirts (so you can go from skin-tight to rapperlike baggy and everything in between). (Via a slider perhaps)
- Colouring could work the same as the above mentioned wish.
- Working shades. I don't know if the game will have bright sunshine or even perhaps HDR in it, but if it has lets say bright lights during the day-time or in certain parts of the town and you put on your glasses then there's an overlay on the whole screen which dimmens the whole light. Same could be made if you put darkened windows on your pimped car :D (I know you can tone down the brightness in the menu but details are the things that make GTA awesome)
- No matter what time the game is in, PLEASE put in the regular sneakers seen in SA (I think it was called black hightops)

That's it for now :)

phreak
03-05-2007, 02:08 PM
In-car camera view (a la TDU/PGR3) would be cool too, even if there weren't working guages.

Rurouni
03-05-2007, 07:03 PM
Guys Remember the rumors for gta sa of the leater face and all that kind of stuff!
Well That would be cool!
-Phyic's
-Customize charecter
-customize clothes(Saint's Row)
-Dunno what else to say!
-Next Gen Grapics (DUH)
Im so glad I have a 360

billyboy_999
03-05-2007, 07:48 PM
I've always wanted some sort of free aim while driving. I know there was a mod for that in SA, but it was weird. It would be so sick to be able to shoot behind you.

Also, the ability to mod a car's performance beyond just putting NOS on it. As in, doing stuff that would make you want to keep the car, making cars less dispensable. And some way of ensuring it wouldn't dissapear if you walked away from it.

adub
03-05-2007, 08:04 PM
As in, doing stuff that would make you want to keep the car, making cars less dispensable. And some way of ensuring it wouldn't dissapear if you walked away from it.

that would be pretty sweet!!
maybe a remote start feature?
or have a personal driver pick your car up for you and bring it to the location you are at

dokujitsu
03-05-2007, 09:26 PM
I actually submitted all this to the original wishlist started by Zidane last year. Here's my massive list of ideas.

+ Appearance smooth and flawless, I’m sure, thanks too all the stuff making the next gens so great. No more stretched out textures, delayed loading of environment, limited sight. Characters, environment, vehicles.. everything is polished and runs smooth. Facial expressions galore.

+ Setting and storyline. A whole new city or state or even several cities and or states. The era should be current. Storyline should include every main character from every GTA so far. Claude, Tommy, Carl, and Toni are all big players in the story. You get to see where they’ve ended up. They should tie in with each other as well. Maybe team ups or enemies. Appearances from other big GTA characters.

+ Online play is a must. There has been MTA for Vice and San Andreas. Should be a hint to Rockstar. They DID make LCS for PSP multiplayer, maybe it’ll continue for future games.

+ More detail in customization. Cars, weapons, character, clothes, tattoos, and so on. All can be upgraded/updated/modded via internet connection. Could add more missions this way. No more waiting for PC versions of the game. Rockstar could have a huge database to access full of official and fan’s files.

+ Lots of stuff to do on the side. With online multiplayer and all kinds of extras, GTA 4 would borderline MMPORPG and rival most. I bet it could rank right up there with WoW. Just don’t enforce a manditory monthly fee, if possible. There could be a standard multiplayer with deathmatch and such, and the advanced would be one to pay for where it could be tons of people teaming up for missions or going nuts and turning the city into a giant riot.

+ As mentioned already, interactive environment. Exploding buildings, roads, sidewalks, you name it. If it’s in the city, it’ll be rebuilt in X amount of time. If it’s in a forest or something, it has to grow back. Not sure how, or if, it would be limited so it’s not turned into a giant crater.

+ Customizable characters. Head to toe. Instead of a main character, you make the character. Rip off of a famous skateboarding game? Nah. You can make your player. Choose race, sex, age, height, etc. A set of voices to match whether you are male or female. All these options effect gameplay in their own way. If the game is online capable, you can bring your character to the battlegrounds to show off. Even have multiple characters to play in one game.

+ Decent map size. If possible to make the game look great AND have a big map, bigger than San Andreas. BUT, no dead space. No more golf courses, deserts, or airports. Make everything count. If there are airports, not HUUUGE with 3 planes in it. Basically, make every area have something to do and not just take up room. Street names and addresses to help navigate.

+ Something to add to chases, when a news chopper or news crew gets involved, you can later see your chase on TV. You turn on the TV and there’s a news report about it with highlights of the action. It can go from chopper views, to on ground news crews, to cop’s dash cam. Imagine blowing the chopper out of the sky and you can see it from their POV when a rocket is barreling towards it and the cam just goes to static.

+ If you’re busted, your car is impounded and your weapons confiscated. You can recover after your release by paying a fee or trying to steal the items back. If you are wasted, you’re outta luck.

+ You have to change your appearance if your rep gets too high. People start noticing you in public and running, calling cops on you. Peds can go vigilante and try to stop you. More reason to change appearance than just losing stars. Your image and description is posted everywhere. Wanted posters, news reports, radio alerts.

+ To add on to responses to ped comments, you can do button combos for responses. Instead of just D Pad left or right, say L1 is “Give response.” You can press L1 + X for one answer. L1 + L2 + X for another. Endless possibilities.

+ More fun vehicles. The go kart and bicycles were fun. I know everyone wants skates and skateboards. How about that, motor scooters, pocket bikes… all kinds of goofy little stuff to play with.

+ More weapons. A couple ideas I had were stun guns/tasers and paintball guns. If San Andreas can have a jet pack in it, then another set of weapons that would be killer are lasers, tesla weapons, and some other futuristic type stuff.

+ Gore. Lots of gore. Body parts tearing off. Heads exploding. Blood all over the place.

+ Oh, did I mention RAGDOLL PHYSICS!?!?!!? :evil3:

I'm a Robot
03-05-2007, 09:51 PM
Like we can't have weapons out and waveing them around until we do pull it out by this i mean pistols machine guns and sawn offs we hide in our pockets. other than that their out in the open

Zii
03-06-2007, 05:15 AM
I'd go with nearly everything that's already been posted, haven't looked at it all, but my top ones would be:

More realistic enviroments. Better weather, better lighting effects, wind effects, more realistic water, etc.

Seasons. Every ... I dunno, say... 20 game days. Should see a change in the season. Or like how they did it in Canis Canem Edit. As the game timeline progresses so does the seasons. So we get to see snow. And I don't just mean white everywhere. I mean fucking realistic snow, with realistic effects. Missions during winter would focus on it being difficult to drive whilst it's snowing. Ponds would freeze over, you'd slip. You could snap off icicles and use them as weapons. You could buy gloves and while you're wearing them, it's easier to drive moterbikes. THAT KIND OF THING. After the storyline is finished, the seasons would alternate every 20 or so ingame days, like I previously suggested.

More vehicles that are genuinely different to each other. Many cars, I felt, felt the same whilst driving them.

More choices for modifying your car.

More realistic game textures and character models. Your clothes become sweaty on a hot day and you have to shower (it would just be a cutscene where you see the outside of the bathroom or something, no potential Hot Coffee fiasco) - and then change into something new. Clothes are more realistic (and laundry may be a possibility? Maybe too far? Not if it was in the kitchen, go up to the washer and press triangle. That kind of thing).

Better AI. Too many times have I been driving and police would just spawn in front of me and then hit the gas when I go past. I want it to be a genuine challenge to escape from the police. No more stupid spawning in the middle of the desert (or on a mountain, cough cough).

Bigger range of weapons. Weapon lockers. More gore during the shoot-em-up moments.

Bigger map with a huge variety of places to visit. Dense forest. Loads of collectibles.

I could go on.

jwrebholz
03-06-2007, 10:28 AM
"The driving in San Andreas totally sucked when it came to driving on the freeways. I want to see indicators that change 3 seconds before they switch lanes just so you have a bit of time to slow down and avoid smashing up your vehicle."

See, I always thought that was the most realistic thing about SA--nobody EVER uses their &#*($@#$ turn signals!

I'm a Robot
03-06-2007, 12:20 PM
Like the clothes you buy you get to buy the size you want it and how you want to wear it.

Example: A Hat wore to the front-side on top of a do-rag,A 4XL White T with a black hooded jacket open with the hood up,Some 4XL,Sagging Black Jeans with a Round Diamond Belt Buckel(i cant spell) with a black belt, and one of the pants legs rolled up with a white bandana wrapped around it. So basically cloths customization.

Also lets say you have an Afro and your wearing a hat i want the Afro to come out the bottom(at the back cause it will look stupid if it's coming out the front) of the hat. Instead of it returning to a Ceasar(like in SA)

Also the size of your hair costomization.

Example:You have dreads what would you want the to be back length, Shoulder length , Neck length, or Ear length.

Oh and you'll need to get hair cuts it your hair becomes nappy or too long.

jwrebholz
03-06-2007, 12:46 PM
I think they should get rid of eating as a thing you have to do constantly. It's annoying. Option to eat to replenish health? That's one thing. Having to eat regularly so you don't lose health? I know it's realistic, but if I wanted that level of realism I'd play The Sims.

I'm a Robot
03-06-2007, 01:04 PM
I think they should get rid of eating as a thing you have to do constantly. It's annoying. Option to eat to replenish health? That's one thing. Having to eat regularly so you don't lose health? I know it's realistic, but if I wanted that level of realism I'd play The Sims.Eating kinda got on my nerves a little but i understood the point in us having to eat.

BTW I want to see a made up Taco Bell. Like Burger King=Burger Shot and more places where we can eat and more locations where places to eat are at. it kinda got on my nerves that i was doing something and i get hungry and i have to drop what i was doing.

Lets say we get our arm blown off from a shotgun blast and we survive. we get to play with one arm up until we get wasted or we go to the hospital to get a mechanical one.

ivar87
03-06-2007, 01:42 PM
I dunno, maybe there's a difference in eating between PS2 and the PC. I played the PC version and I can't remember a time where I was dying if I didn't eat. I sometimes went to cluckin' bell to eat to look real, but I never had no need (except when I got shot etc)

I'm a Robot
03-06-2007, 01:58 PM
Yeah. I dig the snow idea. I had thought of that, and I think that it is very possible, especially if the map size increases a lot.

I imagine also seeing some other features -- like waterfalls (!)

I have thought a lot about weather conditions and your health. I guess that it is possible that the new game might take advantage of the "third bar" under health and armor. This could be used in any number of ways, including

- Breath for underwater missions
- Water for desert missions
- Thermal conditions, like being in the snow

I have actually given a lot of thought to that last one. It seems to me as though CJ, in particular, has gotten a "free ride," being able to hang out in sub-zero temps on Chilead, and running marathons through 100 degree weather in the desert, without flinching. I think that the Rockstar folks are going to address that, although they might not. After all, CJ in particular is, literally, Superman.

:)

- JamesYeah we could do what cartman did freeze himself for 3 weeks so he could get a wii

Then we will be in the future

Also i want to ride a Trolley in IV i was mad we couldn't do it in SA

Asif
03-06-2007, 02:50 PM
BostonJames, please use http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/images/gta/buttons/ edit.gif feature if you need to add more message to your post, since multiple posting in a row is not allowed.

cyrix
03-06-2007, 03:39 PM
Random Mission Generator.

Just like they had in Spiderman 2.

You can go up to people with a blip above their head and they'll have you go steal a certain car, or kill someone, etc...etc... Never have this feature go away. I mean how hard could it be to program simple missions where there are interchangeable variables. Simple feature, lots of replay value.

.:nemesis:.
03-06-2007, 04:12 PM
Random Mission Generator.

Just like they had in Spiderman 2.

You can go up to people with a blip above their head and they'll have you go steal a certain car, or kill someone, etc...etc... Never have this feature go away. I mean how hard could it be to program simple missions where there are interchangeable variables. Simple feature, lots of replay value.
:P
Similair...
Dont know if this idea has been posted, what about a side mission of being a bounty hunter, to obviously make money, there would be clues to the offenders whereabouts and when captured, you take them to a cop shop, how about if it was activated through wearing a special outfit from your wardrobe, then going to a marker at a cop shop, seems feasable since it was done in SA.

James McCloud
03-06-2007, 06:58 PM
1) Wanted level for NPCs - If somebody steals my car, I want them to get rumbled. It's just dumb that they haven't fixed this by now.

2) More logical Stars system - The six stars make sense above and beyond 2 stars, but the things that will give you 1 star are just retarded. I mean KILLING someone and ACCIDENTALLY knocking a cop should NOT be given the same classification. There needs to be a half star. You know, like, the cops will stop you if you're like, right next to them, but other wise they won't really give much chase. I don't want to be busted for brushing a cop car.

3) AI is still a bit primitive - Pedestrians do dumb things, and drivers still don't really know how to drive.

4) Expanded Content - duh.

5) Seasons, full weather - I want to have snow fights. Snow fights with guns.

6) Relevant adverts - You know the system used in BF2142? Yeah? That should be used here.

BritishGangSta
03-06-2007, 07:31 PM
"The driving in San Andreas totally sucked when it came to driving on the freeways. I want to see indicators that change 3 seconds before they switch lanes just so you have a bit of time to slow down and avoid smashing up your vehicle."

See, I always thought that was the most realistic thing about SA--nobody EVER uses their &#*($@#$ turn signals!

Maybe depending on the personality of the person who's driving, they can make it so certain types of people use turn signals and others don't, or they could do it depending on the person's mood. I'm know that the people of past GTAs the NPCs could either be calm or mad, but I think they should find a way to add a more diverse range of emotions to the people of GTA IV, by generating them randomly or something.

billyboy_999
03-06-2007, 10:15 PM
Yeah, ped driving in SA was crap, they'll definitly fix that. Half a star, great idea.

Cell phones - everyone hates them becuase you can't do anything while you're talking on them. I would like to see you be able to at least drive/jack/run while using one. Even better if you could use a one-handed weapon or something.

Scott
03-06-2007, 10:45 PM
^aye

@cyrix: That's actually an awesome idea.

I had a great idea ages ago but I've now forgotten it, damn it.

Ah well a couple others.

- Petty crime. Stealing someone's car radio for cash e.t.c.

- The ability to rob stores again, like in VC. That was an awesome feature and I couldn't believe they didn't leave it in.

- Much, much, much, much, much more detail. I want to hit a lamppost, and have a dent the shape of the lamppost in my car. None of the bullshit from SA where someone rams you from behind and your front bumper hangs off.

- Longer days. Maybe not a huge amount longer, but a bit at least.

- If there is customization, at least include engine modifications so you can make your car faster.

- With the racing side-missions as there's always been, make it that you need so much driving experience to advance. That way you can't to the race before your good enough to win, which is always frustrating.

- This might seem small but it bugs me. When you hold accelerate and brake, the tyres smoke. But no matter whether the cars are front, rear or 4 wheel drive the back wheels always spin. Fix it, it annoys me.

- Eating shouldn't be necessary. Make it like VC's food parlours, you buy food to get health. No starvation in the middle of a shoot-out.

- Realistic weight to power ratios in cars. The more people the worse the performance.

- The map. Yeah I'd like it bigger and with huge graphics enhancements the countryside could look great. But I don't want the countryside, unless they have realistic mud to have fun off road. Someone said one motherfucking huge city. And I completely agree. Concrete jungle.

- As someone else said again, realistic traffic and pedestrian population. More in downtown less in the suburbs. Real rush hour, the clock hits 9 or 5 and the city is at a standstill.

- Please R* fix this. Now, I'm not sure what happens in Scotland when it rains. Maybe people go crazy. But the traffic lights don't just flash on orange/amber when it rains. The traffic control system doesn't say "hey, people can work it out, it's raining!". No. Traffic lights need to work raining or not.

- Wanted level needs a revamp. I'm driving along and a policeman jumps in front of my car, therefore killing himself. That is not my fault, I shouldn't get a damned wanted level for it.

- Last but not least, I want the most fucking awesome explosions ever. I want to blow up a car and see it fly at me in recognisable pieces. And I want the explosion to be holy shit realistic.

Lettermaniac
03-06-2007, 10:53 PM
I like almost all of those ideas. Especially the one about realisic explosions. Saints Row really outdid themselves and made them look pretty fantastic, with debris flying (some of it on fire) and great effects. I hope GTA top this.

Scott
03-06-2007, 11:02 PM
Hehehe yeah. One of the coolest things in SA was beating a car with a bat till the windscreen flew off, landed on you and knocked you down. Pure. Ownage.

Except in GTAIV you could get flattened by a car seat. Omg.

Anyway I remember my two things I wanted.

- Realistic movement. Aside from popular video games display of movement, we do not in fact stay upright all the time. If we're say, sprinting forward, and we have to sidestep to the left, we lean. We lean when we run, we lean when we walk. And the same should apply to GTAIV. Also, when side-stepping, legs cross over like an X. I want realistic movement, I really do feel it adds to the game.

- No I fucking didn't. BIKE DAMAGE. Bike damage is cool. You need it. Bikes are not invincible untill they set on fire. Make them fall apart when you crash too hard. And make falling off a bike realistic. Some of the coolest vids I've seen are the way people tumble off bikes and the way the bikes respond and flip like mad. Do that R* and I'll have your babies. (If they pay for the surgery)

Extremer
03-07-2007, 01:40 AM
6) Relevant adverts - You know the system used in BF2142? Yeah? That should be used here.

That won't work out. Some people won't have an internet connection, so they won't see the ads. Not to mention, this way of advertising is illegal in Australia (I think), so they'll have to do different versions of the game, which is just a pain in the ass.

victim
03-07-2007, 02:38 AM
2) More logical Stars system - The six stars make sense above and beyond 2 stars, but the things that will give you 1 star are just retarded. I mean KILLING someone and ACCIDENTALLY knocking a cop should NOT be given the same classification. There needs to be a half star. You know, like, the cops will stop you if you're like, right next to them, but other wise they won't really give much chase. I don't want to be busted for brushing a cop car.



Having half a star and police may warrant you a ticket if you pull over for them. However if you drive and they give chase it then turns to one star.

Fat Man Jim
03-07-2007, 03:28 AM
ok

1.the ability to mod up weapons (like able to add a grenade launcher and a scope to an assult rifle)
2. more copters and planes
3.muiltple cites (all the old ones included with better graphics)

T-Virus
03-07-2007, 08:23 AM
An other thing.

Money should be FAR MORE important. It shouldn't be easy to get your hands on a lot of cash early in the game.

Rylo
03-07-2007, 08:31 AM
Agreed man, I hated that the most in San Andreas.

I would love it to NOT HAVE EATING and skateboards. It's fucking gay. Also, no fgt ass mods like in Saints Row. Just Rims, Paint and Hydros.

A juicier storyline as well, like not just doing main missions, but little things for the people your work for. Whatever crib you get in the game, you should be able to buy shit for it to make it look good.

And for god sake, try to not make the cars as boxy R*.

billyboy_999
03-07-2007, 11:28 AM
Really? I was pretty poor in the beginning of SA unless I did stuff like ambulance missions.
I actually don't mind the eating as a cheap way of getting some health back, but not as a full blown energy/fat system.

Scott
03-07-2007, 11:58 AM
Hmm one more

- The ability to buy cars. I always wanted to be able to spend my hard earned cash on a car. Like in VCS you can I think. That should definately be in GTAIV.

Also, if R* put Liberty City, Vice City and SA into one game, how are they going to connect them? LC is east coast, SA is west coast and FL is south coast. The gap between them? Basically the whole US.

I'm a Robot
03-07-2007, 12:10 PM
Hmm one more

- The ability to buy cars. I always wanted to be able to spend my hard earned cash on a car. Like in VCS you can I think. That should definately be in GTAIV.

Also, if R* put Liberty City, Vice City and SA into one game, how are they going to connect them? LC is east coast, SA is west coast and FL is south coast. The gap between them? Basically the whole US.Yeah you could buy cars in VCS.

here is another idea

-If we use a USB headset we could talk to character in the game.

ivar87
03-07-2007, 03:02 PM
Hmm one more

- The ability to buy cars. I always wanted to be able to spend my hard earned cash on a car. Like in VCS you can I think. That should definately be in GTAIV.

Also, if R* put Liberty City, Vice City and SA into one game, how are they going to connect them? LC is east coast, SA is west coast and FL is south coast. The gap between them? Basically the whole US.
Why on earth should they do something pointless?
Rockstar is known for innovation, what is the innovation in remaking games that are still top notch? (PSP versions is something different, don't bring that up)

Buying cars would be sensible though.

Scott
03-07-2007, 03:17 PM
Exactly, I don't want them to. My point was that as all three cities are on completely different coasts, it's not gonna happen anyway.

Hell Inferno X2
03-07-2007, 06:17 PM
A game with a really big story line and fun missions that vary greatly. A Dubai/Tokyo setting preferably. Details....LOTS of details.

Nediar
03-07-2007, 07:17 PM
One thing I really want in this game is for every pedestrian to have different strengths.
For example, an old lady would be easy to kill as you punch her but a big muscled guy will take a lot to take down *if your fist fighting* and he could use different attacks than an old lady would.
And for god sake R*, DON'T make the old ladies stand there and swing hard punches at you. :zero: it looks pathetic.

And another thing, if your going to kill someone by punching them, make it take a lot of punches till they die, like in real life. But if you hit them in certain weak points, they would die easier as more health would be taken off. Just instead of punching and kicking them and they die after a few punches :zero:

blood
03-07-2007, 07:39 PM
a car wash

T-Virus
03-07-2007, 09:44 PM
I hope R* will "steal" the idea from True Crime NY, where you could go in a record store to buy tracks for your car stereo. That was an awesome little idea.

m_richy66
03-07-2007, 09:58 PM
Not sure if this got posted:

To be able to smoke or drink in the game. And maybe do drugs but it depends on the setting I guess.

Lettermaniac
03-07-2007, 10:16 PM
Yeah, I actually think being able to do drugs/drink would be cool. I liked how it turned out in Saints Row.

Though as you said, it kinda depends on the setting.

The top Don
03-08-2007, 12:40 AM
i like the idea of a car wash posted by 'Boold' and petral stations to fill up cars

I'm a Robot
03-08-2007, 10:55 AM
Not sure if this got posted:

To be able to smoke or drink in the game. And maybe do drugs but it depends on the setting I guess.I hope R* put that in the game

-Oh and online multiplayer. (i think some one has already posted this)

-Snow. Maybe even a Snowboard or skis how about a ski resort.

Antonio Montana
03-08-2007, 01:11 PM
In order to make it more real, they should implant shield/health damage system.. what am I talking about? well, frankly, if fire struck the protagonist, his health would be damaged (not shield), if he fell it would damage health (again, not shield), if he was punched or kicked it would damage him every 5 times by taking 5% health (realism is that shield is not damaged when someone punches you) and lets say if someone shoots you, then it takes damage from shield..

I'm a Robot
03-08-2007, 01:23 PM
In order to make it more real, they should implant shield/health damage system.. what am I talking about? well, frankly, if fire struck the protagonist, his health would be damaged (not shield), if he fell it would damage health (again, not shield), if he was punched or kicked it would damage him every 5 times by taking 5% health (realism is that shield is not damaged when someone punches you) and lets say if someone shoots you, then it takes damage from shield..Kinda like what it did if you fell a building?

Antonio Montana
03-08-2007, 01:38 PM
exactly!

Lettermaniac
03-08-2007, 08:59 PM
Couple of new ideas:

- Window wipers on cars. Not an important feature at all, it'd just be realisitic.
- Pretty sure someone has mentioned this, but anyway. Different people have different strengths. Meaning a huge man you see on the street will take you out in a few blows. A skinny woman will take forever to beat you down. A needed feature.

James McCloud
03-10-2007, 08:04 AM
That won't work out. Some people won't have an internet connection, so they won't see the ads. Not to mention, this way of advertising is illegal in Australia (I think), so they'll have to do different versions of the game, which is just a pain in the ass.

You wouldn't JUST have the updating ads. There'd be a pre-made set of ads, a la every other GTA game in existence. As for Australia, fine, they make a different version. So? Regional versions of games have been made since the beginning. It's only a pain in the ass if you MOVE TO AUSTRALIA.

Unpopularpizza
03-10-2007, 07:21 PM
-radoll
-more clothes, ALOT more
-better detail on characters
-better detail on cars, including interiors.
thats all i need. im just looking forward to the game so i can finally play a new storyline. man ive played gtasa storymode like 50 times already.

Olin
03-10-2007, 07:40 PM
In order to make it more real, they should implant shield/health damage system.. what am I talking about? well, frankly, if fire struck the protagonist, his health would be damaged (not shield), if he fell it would damage health (again, not shield), if he was punched or kicked it would damage him every 5 times by taking 5% health (realism is that shield is not damaged when someone punches you) and lets say if someone shoots you, then it takes damage from shield..They really need to weigh out the armor/health damage. When there's an explosion and my armor goes down but not my health, I get a little quirked. This was fine in III and Vice City, but for SA being as supposedly great as it is, they only bothered to change damage for one type of damage.. falling damage.

Different types of armor would be great. A light vest will generally give some slight health protection, heavy armor giving a much greater amount. Your health should go down with every hit except with the most expensive armor (impact and fighting related damage still applies a lot more towards health). Either that or health will begin to go down once the armor begins to wear down.

Examples. Light armor:
100% Armor, 100% Health + A direct hit from a shotgun = 28% Armor, 74% Health

Medium armor:
100% Armor, 100% Health + A direct hit from a shotgun = 47% Armor, 88% Health

Heavy armor:
100% Armor, 100% Health + A direct hit from a shotgun = 74% Armor, 100% Health

Something like that.

Lauwee
03-10-2007, 07:43 PM
^Very, very good idea(s).

I would like to have a visible armor vest as well.

Lettermaniac
03-10-2007, 09:48 PM
They really need to weigh out the armor/health damage. When there's an explosion and my armor goes down but not my health, I get a little quirked. This was fine in III and Vice City, but for SA being as supposedly great as it is, they only bothered to change damage for one type of damage.. falling damage.

Different types of armor would be great. A light vest will generally give some slight health protection, heavy armor giving a much greater amount. Your health should go down with every hit except with the most expensive armor (impact and fighting related damage still applies a lot more towards health). Either that or health will begin to go down once the armor begins to wear down.

Examples. Light armor:
100% Armor, 100% Health + A direct hit from a shotgun = 28% Armor, 74% Health

Medium armor:
100% Armor, 100% Health + A direct hit from a shotgun = 47% Armor, 88% Health

Heavy armor:
100% Armor, 100% Health + A direct hit from a shotgun = 74% Armor, 100% Health

Something like that.

Sounds great. I'd really like a system that realisitic.

Actually, that reminds me of an old idea. We NEED to see the armour vests.

EDIT: Hah, didn't see Lauwee's post, which basically said what I said.

juggalo_4_ever
03-11-2007, 01:31 AM
heres some features id like
-ragdoll physics
-realistic graphics
-can climb fences like in gta sa
-alot more cars
-alot bigger area than san andreas
-realistic gun sounds
-better stealth
-longer story
-character custimation like tony hawk games
-2 player
-online
-realistic weather
-realistic water
-allow custom tracks
-better blood
-better looking wrecks
-better looking fire
-better hands
-more detail in guns
-dont make cars dissapear when you go out of range for like 3 seconds
-and alot of hidden things lik in vice city
THATS ALOT

but thats all i have! that would be sweet if the game had all those things

fluff
03-11-2007, 08:37 AM
pick locks-i hate finding nice cars but they end up being locked
Harpoon gun- Shoot and swim

one thing that was crap was if i killed a cop and there was nobody around to hear or see it i still get cops after me

Havok
03-11-2007, 12:38 PM
make the slienced weapons have a purpose, as with the knife and things like that.
like what fluff was saying, if i shoot a cop with a silenced pistol in an alley and they're is no one around, i still get 2 wanted stars, but no one saw it and no one heard it.

better physics.
no more dead people floating back down to earth= ragdoll effects
better weapons.
better melee animations and better melee attacks.

I'm a Robot
03-11-2007, 01:52 PM
more than just 6 stars (i think i've said that once before)

Weapon customization

I would like to see Vice City,Liberty City,San Andreas,Carcer City,the New Orleans Based city(Manhunt 2),And the new city in the game and we can travel by plane or boat to the cities.

A very big area for the game's new city.

When you commit a crime i want it to where the cops won't know where you are unless they find you then you could lose them and then they gotta find you again.

duaragan
03-11-2007, 04:35 PM
Vehicles: they should have better vehicle physics so you can actually do a full motorcycle flip and thigs like that and just more vehicles and bigger transortation for more gang members.

Guns: they should have more guns instead of just 3 different types for each one and they should fix the sound gta vice city sounds were better and customization like a bayonet :evil3: . And there should be more fist moves like when you are not holding a weapon you should be able to beat some one up like in the warriors and pick up different things like pipes and stuff.And people shouldnt die just cause they get punched a few time they should make it just like the warriors sense they made that to anyways.


there should be like serial killers in the newspaper and everyonce in a while some random person trys to kill there should just be people that cops actually chase for a good reason. And better weather like a tsunami would be fun lol and some ragdoll physics and blood splatter.

Gangs:there should be more gang member models and things like that and they should be smarter and not shoot randomly at people and you should be able to give them certain weapons like in the warriors game.

Multiplayer: it would be cool if they had some type of multiplayer but it would be nice if they had it so you could make a gang which would be a online clan and you could make your own little map area and place down buildings and things like that so you could have clan wars with other people and your gang could have its own colors and all that.

fluff
03-11-2007, 06:30 PM
and another thing
a cop could be in a fire fight and i could punch someone and they would stop firing at who is shooting at them to chase me

i would like all these bugs fixed with the cop ai

Scott
03-11-2007, 09:19 PM
- Window wipers on cars. Not an important feature at all, it'd just be realisitic.

Haha I'm like that. And turn signals. Just for ultimate realism.

Also, reverse lights. Dunno what happened to them in SA, but they weren't there.

Real suggestion:

Suspension. Simple as that.

Realistic suspension set up with springs etc. Heavier the car tighter the suspension. That equals realistic car movement.

SA had a dynamic system, but my system is better. But I'm afraid, I have no idea how to explain it. :<

Havok
03-11-2007, 09:29 PM
it would be cool also if there were spots that you could go to and recruit gang members off the street.
like jump them in and then they are part of your gang.

Scott
03-11-2007, 09:32 PM
update on my wishlist:

no gangs whatsoever. no turf wars, no gangsta gangsta im 50 cent shit.

just fucking mafia. or pikeys, bareknucle boxing.

fluff
03-11-2007, 09:48 PM
*convertible cars gets sunny put down the roof starts to rain put it up again

Lettermaniac
03-11-2007, 10:15 PM
Good idea, working convertibles.

I always thought they'd have working roofs in San An, I was a little dissapointed.

Also, a big range of trucks. And huge vehicles like that. In SA there was only about 3 or 4 trucks, I'd like to see more.

FG
03-12-2007, 02:00 AM
Doors with yellow V`s ......EDIT : I never under stood why it goes to black screen..just want to walk thru :)

Ash_735
03-12-2007, 02:31 AM
Who has the best thoughts about those doors with yellow V`s ...to load ..I hope they do away with it.....I never under stood why :)

They aint V's they are meant to be Arrows pointing down to an enterable location. Speaking of which, I hope they continue to use the Interior System of VCS as it's the best one to date.

Havok
03-12-2007, 02:24 PM
They aint V's they are meant to be Arrows pointing down to an enterable location. Speaking of which, I hope they continue to use the Interior System of VCS as it's the best one to date.
Roger that.

drive bys with shotguns would be cool too.
and in car animations when characters are talking would be cool also

FG
03-12-2007, 03:01 PM
Good idea, working convertibles.

I always thought they'd have working roofs in San An, I was a little dissapointed.

Also, a big range of trucks. And huge vehicles like that. In SA there was only about 3 or 4 trucks, I'd like to see more.
Thats it....add that to my wish list , more customizing. Trucks an bikes as well. EDIT2 Also , I want ultra lite copters ...an planes ...with weapons :)

RJSzynal
03-13-2007, 04:01 PM
I think they should take a good look at 'Mafia', that was a fantastic game. if the police saw you speeding or going through a red light they would pull you over and give you a ticket. If you had a gun in plain sight then they would arrest you. Brilliant. Oh, yeah, and you could get in any door on a car and shoot people out the window while driving, you could aim and everything. There was also petrol, if the car was shot in the fuel tank then you slowly lost fuel untill your car gave up, you could refuel at petrol stations too.

It would be awsome if you could crash into a house and smash through the wall and end up in someones living room. realistic damage to cars would be ace, imagine sideswiping a lamp post and loosing your wing mirror, or wrapping your car around a post.

I think they should set it in the future, not ages in the future, just like 10 years or something, new cars nowadays would be the old cars there.

cars that get dirtier when you go through mud etc, I always found that the standard cars all looked dirty but cars added in a mod are crisp and ace looking.

The main thing though is to make the pc version less consoley, i.e. gta3 used the mouse for alot of options but sa was stupid, i.e. choosing clothes, instead of mouse clicking you had to use stupid generic console buttons (if you have run/drive forward as 'w' then you use 'w' to select through lists. The GTA games are always limited graphically because the ps2 was peaking (pc's could handle much higher res textures and model details). Also the gun sounds were rubbish on sa because they ran out of space on the dvd for ps2, PCs can have multiple discs so WHY THE RUBBISH SOUNDS!!!!

//end of rant

stanko
03-13-2007, 08:40 PM
- I hope somebody from Rockstar will read this 

- Non linear storyline
- First person as an option (for better aiming and shooting)
- Destructable terrain which recovers after some time (maybe even people working on buildings)
- When you get all six *, I'd like to see special forces sharpshooters with sniper rifles (on the roofs)
- As greater distance as possible (shooting from sniper, taking out photos ...)
- Much more interaction with environment and communication with people
- Teasing people around (for example, you can yell dirty words on somebody when he crashes into your car, showing middle finger around ...)
- Realistic animations of loading guns, pulling them out etc.
- How much your character can take weapons by himself depends on his clothes, car etc. (I didn't like when CJ pulls out his bazooka with 1000 rockets out of his nowhere, if you know what I mean  ). For example, I'd like to buy long leather jacket with many pockets where I can stash most of my weapons. If I want to carry more, I can buy some extra belts for my two sawed-off shotguns, katana, uzi etc. If I want to carry grenade launcher, bazooka and minigun, I can always stash them in my car trunk and take them when necessary...
- Being able to bribe a cop. For example, when he sees you killing somebody, you can give him some cash to forget about it, or maybe even to help you killing somebody.
- While driving, being able to throw grenades around. Imagine some irritating guy listening to the music loud while waiting for a green light. You just drive next to him and throw a grenade through an open window of his car.
- Stealing from people on a street
- Being able to lie down and shoot (better precision) and maybe even to pack your sniper rifle into a suitcase (like in Hitman), because people should be always frightened when they see you with a gun on a street. Climbing the ladders. Being able to sit down (faster stamina recovery), to lean sideways and behind the walls, jump in many directions and generally to move much better.
- Assassination missions
- After some missions (dirty jobs ) you can get heavy 0.50 sniper rifle ( over 1 kilometre, or 3000 feet range).
- I'd like to see something like Hells Angels in game. You can join them and they can teach you how to wave with a chain while riding a bike, how to drive and shoot in the same time (better aiming) ...
- Much more music ( +1 old radio - from 60's, 70's music ...)
- Good replay option + you can save it from different angles and make a great race or action replay movie for watching later.
- Faster cars and much faster airplanes
- Better camera for driving (which instantly follows your car)
- Being able to close all roads for race. (For example, you sit in your Formula 1 car and drive as fast as you want through a town, alone or against other racers.)
- Being able to customise any car and to put armor on it (maybe even machine gun turrets).
- Being able to save control keys for different types of vehicles, cars, airplanes, helicopters, boats etc.
- Faster controls with better response (for example, if I press enter, I want CJ to jump from burning airplane immediately!), I'm sure you know what I mean ...
- Martial arts. Being able to learn many strikes, choking, grappling etc. If you practice with a punch bag, your punches/kicks gets much stronger. You can knockout a person with one single blow and then do whatever you want.
- Much more cold steel weapons. Also being able to throw them, cut or simply pierce with them. For example, when you practice a lot with throwing knives, you gain some skill and you can kill somebody with single precise throw within 10 meters (30 feet).
- Carrying dead people (Manhunt style). You don't want to leave a dead body on a street in front of many people.
- Some subcultural groups and gangs in town (for example, you can see skinheads in town terrorising some people or gang robbing a market).
- I'd like to see some outlaws living in small communities in desert with their specific clothes, some unique weapons, clothes etc.
- Commandos training (hiding – less visibility in forest and urban areas and better sneaking, greater stamina, weapon handling etc.)
- Survival missions (you need to get alive from place A to place B by any cost.). For example, if you manage to finish all of them and commando training, you unlock some unique stuff. It can be some kind of ultimate high-tech combat suit (nothing to futuristic, but very nice.) I can see it this way – camouflage suit with night vision goggles, great zoom binoculars which shows distance in meters/feet, much better armor with slow health recovery and resistance to fire/cold air, much better strength and stamina, jumping and climbing, also climbing equipment for huge rocks, buildings and so, motion heat detector sight etc.

Some more ideas:
- The media (to hear news about upcoming tsunami and about some psycho robbing the bank, which might be you )
- Much more details on a map and maybe even a coordinates for much easier and more precise orientation (for example, your friend tells you that he found unique gun on 0.29, 2.47. You just open your map, type it in and you can see a dot on that place on a map). It's not complicated at all, but could be very useful.
- This is kinda funny to me, too, but who gives a .... To have some kind of organizer which tells you about your contacts, where do you have to go and what do you need to do. GTA IV should be a very huge world...
- Many sports, extreme sports, working amusement park, maybe even cable-car on a mountain...
- Unlocking cheats during progress in game
- After completing the whole game, being able to restart and play any mission

RatedArtist
03-14-2007, 09:26 AM
dude you in the house

1.Can stuff ppl or gang members in car meaning that it should not matter if the car only has four seats.I mean get in the freakin trunk or whatever

2.lets say that we recruit ten gang members,now how are we gonna roll? if five fit into one car then the others must jack a nearby car and follow us

3.Atleast 10 ppl must be able to fit in a stretch

4.threesomes with hookers anyone?not just in the car ;)

5. and and and just like in saint's row that you should be able to call your homies from your cell so that they arrive in a car,boat or plane or whatever

TheNamelessGuy
03-14-2007, 09:52 AM
My only wish is that it doesn't have any gangsta style. That made SA worse.

RatedArtist
03-14-2007, 02:32 PM
son ARE YOU DISSIN MY GANGSTA STYLE?i'll pop one in you fool


just kidding man

Q:have you ever had a feel of LA{compton+long Beach and others} in the 90s?
ans:if you had you would have undersood

fluff
03-14-2007, 04:19 PM
stanko the hiding bodies and "guns have to go some where" just isnt gta

some of my ideas
*slam heads in car doors
*throw people in front of moving cars
*throw tire traps
*mines
*not based in this decade(i hate the music)

Fry
03-15-2007, 12:14 AM
-Well i would like to see better animation, For example all NPC's could have a basic bone structure just in there legs and arms. Say if you ran over a pedestrian his leg and arm could brake, Or if you pulled out the old shotgun and shot someone in the arm. Their arm would brake and the bone would come through the skin, They would even drop their weapon and maybe try and pick it up with the other arm.

-Removable limbs, Say if you through a grenade their body could blow up into chunks or if the grenade lands a little distance away. The blast would still affect them but they might only lose one arm or a leg, If that happens they could like run away (if they lost an arm) or keep shooting at you untill his dead (if he lost an leg and cant run).

-Blood splatter against walls and alot more gor in general.

-First Person view option

jammsbro
03-15-2007, 06:44 AM
tons of modding for all vehicles, i hate it that you cant change certain vehicles in SA. be able to change the bike, bmx, planes, everything.

after a while you dont even bother to go into wheel arch angels or the other garages

jayuk2
03-15-2007, 08:12 AM
graphics and ragdoll! but theve already being said....

i know its alot of ask but in gta sometimes you would be on foot and a car would turn up for agessss, or you would be out in the countryside with nothing to do. Even being able to interact more with people would help that lonely feeling lol

jammsbro
03-15-2007, 09:05 AM
horses, they shoudl put horses in it, or is cowboy gta a bit gay?

are there any animals at all in the gta games?

RollingStones
03-15-2007, 09:29 AM
There's some ideas from GTA: Vice City Stories that are indeed very useable. The whole Assets thing is great in there.

Son606
03-15-2007, 09:48 AM
Something that I'd like there to be in GTAIV is air traffic such, as planes and helicopters landing and taking off at airports and being able to hijack them etc.

stenyak
03-15-2007, 11:10 AM
Something that I'd like there to be in GTAIV is air traffic such, as planes and helicopters landing and taking off at airports and being able to hijack them etc.
Hmm didn't that happen in gta vc? Can't recall if it hapened in gta3, and i dunno about sa, haven't played it enough to know.

Ian
03-15-2007, 11:54 AM
- Cars that get more expensive to fix then when more damaged, like in the original GTA. That way, you smash it up too bad, and if you're low on cash, you're better off finding another one than bring it to the garage. And at risk of getting caught by police. $100 for a paint spray, and maybe up to 50% of the car's cost when you bring it to the garage smoking and bits and pieces hanging off. This means that you'd actually have to take care of a modded vehicle you liked.

- Also, I liked the fuel tank idea. What happens is that in all GTA games you can get chased by the police for a whole game-week and you can still keep going (if you're good enough not to blow up the car). To avoid having to refuel the car everytime like eating, only have the fuel steadily leak out as the cops chase you, like they shot your fuel tank or something. This makes brushing with the cops even more dangerous and you'll generally try to avoid it. Or it makes a good challenge. This is about on par with spike strips.

- Have spike strips in (maybe set in difficulty mode) with the above for even better challenge!

- And I liked the airbag deployed idea as mentioned by someone here. The car gets slower as it gets damaged and grinds to a halt and airbags popup (or when you hit something on its last legs)

- Less stupid drivers. If they see you running up to them with a big gun, they should lock their doors or step on it to go off. (Maybe as a difficulty setting. I think my ideas will make the game hard)

- To steal a parked car, you'd first have to unlock and hotwire it. Done through some little challenge like keeping the mouse on the center of a pattern as it moves randomly around. If the cursor moves off the pattern then you'd have to start over. Make it not too tedious. About 5 seconds would do. (Anybody ever played Neighbors From Hell will understand this). Not all cars would be locked obviously, just that if you ever come across one you'd have to unlock and hotwire it, all by chance.

Zoolander
03-15-2007, 04:30 PM
Im An Avid Play Of GTA and I know what I like but somethings on my wishlist are silly so... forgive me lol:

This Time For the City I hope they just make up their own or use London/Tokyo/Hong Kong or Chicago but I mostly want them to create their own city. And Have the downtown area about the size of Los Santos or bigger! from SA and realli go into to detail cause with the Xbox 360 and PS3 they could really go all out

Map:
Better graphics on trees, buildings and what not, like when I shoot a rocket launcher at a building i wanna see some damage, ie. insides of offices, rubble on the ground, few bodies here and there and also the same with trees, ie. holes in the grounds where they use to be if you blow them up and realistic looking skyscrapers, the ones in SA were good like but LC was ridiculous and VC was a wee bit better. Animals? I know theres animals in the other games but the pratically dont exsist, and I liked in SA about the whole Big Foot thing if there was a mysterious animal or something like that if you kill gets you alot of money i think that would be cool. and also if its set somewhere exotic lol actual sharks attacks would be crazy lol.

Vechiles:
I dont know exactly how many cars there was in SA but i liked the whole i dea of only getting certain cars in certain areas, but what annoyed me was in some cars when u held down the X button to accelerate it felt as if the car wasnt doin its best, like it could just go that bit faster! ya know?
and more realistic based cars! like i actualli wanna see ferraris and aston martins lol and even crappy Fiats lol. and i wanna see crusie liners that you can sink but they dont sink in like 20 secs it take like 10 - 15 mins to sink and fire crews and police turn up trying to save people lol and passenger jets that can be hijacked with passengers, i know its like 9/11 but this is just a game lol and its the graphics that are being "killed" not real people

Weapons:
Again the same as the cars more variety and actually sound like guns lol and like True Crime (sorry) have a basic gun that you will always have or even a meele weapon but i'd prefer a gun lol.

Weather:
Hurricaines, SNOW! lol, thunderstorms and loads other things and seasons! i think seasons would be great!

Peds:
Ragdoll alot more but only when they're dead i dont wannah punch some1 and see them flying all ove rthe place. Also a veritey of peds aswell i hate seeing about 10 of the same guy walking around and the same goes for cars!

You: I like at the start of the game you customize everything about you like the sims or sumthing, skin tones, race, hair colour, and maybe if its like a mafia setting. I'd prefer a mafia setting like LC and VC again the ghetto thing didnt work for me!? that if it was a mafia thing that you could marry into the family have kids and what not and have the family house and you actually rise to the top properly like hitman, dons son in law then thru time the don!

Well people thats my wishlish, hopefully i'll get what i want! hehe,:laugh: Tell me what ya think!

Im out..

RatedArtist
03-16-2007, 01:51 AM
welcome zoolander


I really liked the idead of destruction,there should be holes and blood and gore and ahhhhhhhh

mtasa
03-16-2007, 04:15 AM
I want the character hurts a bit or a lot (depending on the speed and how the crashes happen) when crashing the cars just like in the Driv3r.. It'll be realistic and add some difficulty..
If a car explodes right beside the car we're driving, then we should've been hurt and the car become a bit dented and the windscreen cracks..
If the car lands on the roof while performing stunts or jumping from somewhere high, then games over.. I mean, mission failed or wasted (die to be exact)..
If the tyre of the car out of air, then if we still driving fast then the tyre should ripped off from the rim and the car becomes uncontrollable and sparks come out when it touches the road and a realistic sound should come out... shiiiing... haha
If the car crashes on the left front, then only that part should be dented... not suddenly the bumper behind falls off...
If we're driving so fast like 120Km/hour and hit something solid like trees or sumthin, yet again the character should lost his life (and don't forget that the trees or the thing we hit should have some visual effects like tearing, breaking or etc..)... with the steering squeezes the chest and blood spurts out from the mouth or eyes bulging out or etc..
The possibilities for the car to be cut into two or three or etc... i mean like if we're involved in a heavy accident and the car flew and hit other cars in fast movement like a pinball, then the car should've ripped apart from the dashboard to the front or some other way around... whew I hope you guys got what I mean...
If a nearby car explodes, the flying parts of the car should bring some damage when hit somethings.. eg. if the tyre flew straight to the character, then we should fall to the ground and hurt..
I want the in-cabin view where i can see the character's hand holding the steering, the dashboard, radio and etc...
The ability to wear seatbelt to prevent you fall to the roof incase the car turned upside-down...
I want the ability to steal cars by smashing the windows or etc if the doors locked..
Some cars got their windows tinted and therefor, when the windows is being smashed, the glass shouldn't just falls off by tiny pieces but instead, they all glued together to the tinted films...
The parked ped's car could randomly have a steering lock or pedal lock or etc..
When hijacking a parked or emptied car, it should take sometime to drive the car if the keys is nowhere to be seen and the players must using the wires inside to start the engines...
The ability to lock the door to provide extra time before the enemy gets in especially if the cars is in static positions... so, we got time to sped off to prevent being busted by the police...

WHEW... I just can think of this at this time... specifically on the car physics...

ivar87
03-16-2007, 06:09 AM
..
If the car lands on the roof while performing stunts or jumping from somewhere high, then games over.. I mean, mission failed or wasted (die to be exact)..
If we're driving so fast like 120Km/hour and hit something solid like trees or sumthin, yet again the character should lost his life ...

Please god NO!
Some things are meant to be left unrealistic.

jammsbro
03-16-2007, 06:40 AM
unlockable dj's and new music

when i first found the vynl (sp) countdown in SA i was sure you could unlock songs later on. i would love to have that in IV. having to unlock new songs and totally new dj's, not just segments but new altogether would really refresh the game once you had been playing it for ages.

Fry
03-16-2007, 06:53 AM
unlockable dj's and new music

when i first found the vynl (sp) countdown in SA i was sure you could unlock songs later on. i would love to have that in IV. having to unlock new songs and totally new dj's, not just segments but new altogether would really refresh the game once you had been playing it for ages.Great idea, Or even once you finish the whole game a few of the best radio stations will change their whole script, They could still play the same songs but in different orders, with different adverts and with the DJ saying different stuff.

m_richy66
03-16-2007, 07:02 AM
Not sure if it has been said but multiplayer? Like MTA.

jammsbro
03-16-2007, 09:04 AM
i just found out about MTA last night, sounds like the best thing ever.

for IV you should be able to spend your cash on lots of different things. going into a clothes store is okay but takes ages. buying new music or customised guns would be ace.

ivar87
03-16-2007, 10:53 AM
Sa-mp is cooler :rogier:

kelvintwt
03-16-2007, 03:32 PM
more designs of peds
more of highrise buildings/offices
more variety of railway systems and switchable tracks
more enterable buildings/shops
high res textures
pick up any objects as weapons
CJ wont slip of a vehicle while standing on it (eg. standing on the top of a car)
buildings gets damaged when rammed (eg. cracks depending on the impact)
able to buy a mobilephone and can use it to 'start' missions anywhere (eg. calls up a character and starts amission) or maybe the batteries may even run out and requires to recharge it
buildings gets destroyed when a rhino rams at it
rhino flattens a car rather than exploding it
some city areas will have traffic jams
peds die and gets flattened when wheels of vehicles goes over them :evil3: (maybe not that disgusting)
wheels of vehicles fall of when damaged (if its the front wheels, the vehicle loses steering ability)
peds runs away when they sees CJ holding a weapon
vehicles overturns and explodes randomly..some do some does not
vehicles overturns and have oil leaks and catches fire..vehicles that touches the oil catches fire too
some roofs of houses can be broken down
CJ can open a shop and make money :laugh:

fluff
03-16-2007, 04:33 PM
more designs of peds
more of highrise buildings/offices
more variety of railway systems and switchable tracks
more enterable buildings/shops
high res textures
pick up any objects as weapons
CJ wont slip of a vehicle while standing on it (eg. standing on the top of a car)
buildings gets damaged when rammed (eg. cracks depending on the impact)
able to buy a mobilephone and can use it to 'start' missions anywhere (eg. calls up a character and starts amission) or maybe the batteries may even run out and requires to recharge it
buildings gets destroyed when a rhino rams at it
rhino flattens a car rather than exploding it
some city areas will have traffic jams
peds die and gets flattened when wheels of vehicles goes over them :evil3: (maybe not that disgusting)
wheels of vehicles fall of when damaged (if its the front wheels, the vehicle loses steering ability)
peds runs away when they sees CJ holding a weapon
vehicles overturns and explodes randomly..some do some does not
vehicles overturns and have oil leaks and catches fire..vehicles that touches the oil catches fire too
some roofs of houses can be broken down
CJ can open a shop and make money :laugh:

by what your saying i guess you want cj back

Thoas
03-17-2007, 04:01 AM
Prison mission, kind of like manhunt style game play.

NamAim1991
03-18-2007, 12:48 PM
Okay here's some. Maybe I'll add...

-Smarter AI
-More Pedestrian variety
-Like Thoas said a few Prison Missions. Maybe they could it like if you didn't pay a bribe to the police you'd have to break out of prison or wait for a little bit.
-More realistic car dammage
-More fake companies
-Car Companies. I always like the Maibatsu Motors commercials... but i kept thinking to myself, WHERE ARE THESE CARS!? I think it would be awesome if every car were made by a car company. It's a small detail, but i think it could add a little more realism to the game.
-More Buildings that you can enter. Also less generic.
-Some ragdoll physics would be cool
-bigger variety of guns
-Empire Building. I loved the Idea of empire building in GTA:VCS. But maybe they could add and improve some stuff
-Skateboards haha
-Slightly more in depth character customization. Maybe just more things... oh and i hated that if you wanted to wear your hat backwards or in any different ways you had get an entirely new hat
-Bigger world to explore
-Street names maybe? haha another small detail that adds realism
-Maybe slightly more realistic dammage to characters
-More realistic side missions would be cool. Like maybe in firefighter you could actually go into burning buildings and help people out. Or in Police you could bust people in things like bank roberies. This could earn you some brownie points with cops, but have the gang that tried to carry out the robbery hate you more. Sort of like GTA2's point system.
-More realistic arrests. Like cops would drag you into a police car but you could escape if you really wanted to.
-Online Multiplayer

Um... That's all I can think of

billyboy_999
03-18-2007, 06:41 PM
The pedestrian variety is a good point. Perhaps not more ped vareity, but simply have the 'ped generating engine' combine a number of ped bodies, clothes, and accesories for each ped. Also, the probability a ped might wear something thick depends on weather, etc.
Also, a better aimer for the tank and other vehicles with weapons. SA was alot better than VC's tank, but still you had to guess. There should be a gunner view.

Jimmy_86
03-18-2007, 10:15 PM
That's a good idea about the gunner view. If there is multiplayer (or even just two player like in consoles SA) you could have one gunner and one driver in a tank, or even in a helicopter would be cool. Otherwise you could have an AI helper (like a recruited gang member) to gun/drive while you did the other.

Perhaps weather things like in a heavy storm there would be less pedestrians and more cars on the road. Or when it rains people could have umbrellas (which could also possibly be used a melee weapon).

Olin
03-18-2007, 11:48 PM
I had some ideas for those road blocks.

1.) Increase gang density and warfare in areas that have yet to be unlocked so that once you enter a "restricted" area you will likely die within 5 minutes unless you're pretty good at being evasive. Probably have news about the gangs getting out of control and maybe make some missions dedicated to putting a stop (not literally) to the wars, which would then allow you into the areas without being raped.
2.) Remove the road blocks and just have cops come after you in hoards if they see you in restricted areas.
3.) Some explosive strapped on the main character that will detonate if he goes off too far. Ehh.. bad idea.
4.) One of the gangs put assassins/snipers in areas leading into their territory and they don't like you for some reason. You can take them out, but then they'll come after you once they know where you are.

Fry
03-19-2007, 12:21 AM
In regards to the pedestrian thing, What if we had pedestrians that would spawn with different haircuts, beards, clothes, shoes, tattoos, weight and skin colour. That way we could turn one pedestrian model into 100 or more different pedestrians, But that depends on the amount of clothing ect combinations that R* would impliment. But if R* used that method i doubt we would ever see 2 of the same pedestrians.

jammsbro
03-19-2007, 06:55 AM
I'd like the look af the character to be able to change in game rather than clothing stores. if he gat body armour he should wear it. if he gets on a bike then he could steal the helmet from the rider to prevent damage from crashes. things like that.

you would be ablt to toggle the control on and off if you didnt like it though.

jammsbro
03-19-2007, 09:12 AM
target specific shots would be good. shoot an arm and it comes off at the elbow. blow someone up and pieces of bodies rain from the sky with a blood shower.

there should be a longer delay before stuff resets aswell. like if you use C4 and blow a hole in the ground it should stay there for a whuile

Asif
03-19-2007, 09:17 AM
jammsbro, from now on, click on http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/images/gta/buttons/ edit.gif, in case, you need to add more message to your original post, rather than making multiple posts in a row.

FG
03-19-2007, 03:00 PM
Larger cities with more detail, country side like SA , bit larger map than SA , cops gaurd the restricted areas , with no road blocks. More an improved air craft , add ultra lite to the list , aswell , under water craft , mini subs etc; sunken ships to salvage, a bounty hunter side mission , I have more latter :)

Nediar
03-19-2007, 03:22 PM
I had a think about the whole "I want more pedestrians so they don't look the same" thing, and a cool feature would be: Customizable Pedestrians tbh.

A little thing that *if you want* can edit the default peds and add more models that are user created, and see someone you made walking around, flying a plane or whatever.

You could use your imagination with this, create a huge guy with huge muscles and increase his strength to almost the max. Give him a knife as his weapon *if you piss him off, he will take it out to you*.

Would be good if you can even place where the ped roams around, or if it is just at random.

Would be fun tbh

Vampilehunter
03-20-2007, 01:39 AM
This has probably already been mentioned, but I'm not about to read through 14 pages of posts. I think it would be really cool to be able to fully create your own character at the beginning of the game. Somewhere along the lines of Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion in that the story can be deep and entertaining without restricting you to the role of a specific person (ie. Tommy Vercetti, Carl Johnson).

Also, this might be pushing expectations a bit, but IF there is an online mode (crossing fingers), we should definitely have the ability to form gangs with other online players. I don't know how that would really work since it would probably end up being way too chaotic, but it's something I've always wanted to do in a GTA game.

jammsbro
03-20-2007, 06:38 AM
My apologies Asif, i just got back onto the pc at work and wasn't aware that i was the last person to post. i'll edit next time.

Smokeydogg7
03-20-2007, 01:19 PM
spilt screen co op online co op

online multiplayer hopefully better then what they put in SR which is a gta clone so rockstar has to out do the clones

im hoping for a MMO feature but a storymode like we saw in SA is needed as well so both would be great

monkio
03-20-2007, 04:00 PM
I think it would be cool to include injuries,

where if you hit a pedestrian in your car they may have broken bones or if you pull a gun on an old person they could have a heart attack. Also I wish they would bring back the robberies.

maddmike
03-21-2007, 11:34 PM
hold on....gtaIII NYC MAfia.....Vice City Miami 80's even......San Andreas 90's cali THUG GANGSTA RAP thing....gtaIV could very well be Atlanta durty south thing couldent it...since the south took over the rap thing resently couldent it be....im not saying i want it to be but it could...ATL is by water like 3 vice and SAn An like there real places...and you could have racest rednecks in the mix too but still....just and idea....


and i support the mafia NYC style so everyone knows


one more thing....if every one with a PS3 wants to abuse there PS3 powers....why not multiple disks for 360 people...just another thought.

Lettermaniac
03-22-2007, 12:52 AM
There could be a mixture of cities this time around. Sure we've had cities based on one city, but I think there's a small chance we could play in a city with obvious influences from multiple cities.

...since the south took over the rap thing...

Since when?

jammsbro
03-22-2007, 06:54 AM
im hoping for a MMO feature but a storymode like we saw in SA is needed as well so both would be great

whats mmo?

.:nemesis:.
03-22-2007, 06:57 AM
whats mmo?
Google is your friend. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplaye r_online_game)

Olin
03-22-2007, 06:57 AM
whats mmo?Massively Multiplayer Online.

Jimmy_86
03-22-2007, 07:36 AM
I realised, of all the "wishes" for GTAIV, my biggest one must be:

No game breaking bugs, and ideally no other major bugs. The Purple Nines from GTAIII being the best (i.e. worst) example.

Goat
03-22-2007, 12:16 PM
Not sure if anyone here is old enough to remember the old D&D "Choose Your Own Adventure" books, but I would love to see that be available in a video game.

Think about it -- wouldn't it be cool if you could play the last several missions differently? Or play ANY mission differently, and get different results? Depending on how you play a mission, other missions will change, subtly or drasitcally.

You took out the police station? Now the "national guard" has moved in to part of the city. You didn't kill the mob boss? He is stronger now, and taking him out will require more strategy and a bigger gang.

There could be positive results, too. By NOT killing a rival gang leader, you might be able to join forces with him. Killing him might have made your gang more vulnerable to the cops or to other rival groups.

I don't imagine that this will happen -- but I like the idea of it. Who knows what they are planning anyway...?!

That sounds suspiciously like MMO to me unless leaping advances are made on the AI front. You might get your wish.

Lettermaniac
03-24-2007, 07:05 PM
Partly a wish, partly an idea.

I really like the idea of Chicago. Could provide a lot of opportunities, and it's obviously a city that hasn't been covered before.

I think they could use the lake (Michigan). Chicago (called, whatever, as Rockstar wouldn't call it Chicago) could be sprawling and take up one side of the lake, and the on the other side there could be a few country towns dotted around the place.

I dunno though. We've always had islands and I think it'll stay that way. I don't want 'invisible walls' keeping us in an area.

Vampilehunter
03-24-2007, 10:22 PM
another thing I think would be cool is if you can buy a portable radio/mp3 player in the game so you can listen to music even when you're not in a car.

FG
03-24-2007, 11:10 PM
Partly a wish, partly an idea.

I really like the idea of Chicago. Could provide a lot of opportunities, and it's obviously a city that hasn't been covered before.

I think they could use the lake (Michigan). Chicago (called, whatever, as Rockstar wouldn't call it Chicago) could be sprawling and take up one side of the lake, and the on the other side there could be a few country towns dotted around the place.

I dunno though. We've always had islands and I think it'll stay that way. I don't want 'invisible walls' keeping us in an area.

Same here LM , I have thought that since last year. Because the east an west coast have been covered. middle America remains , the size of the new map could fit in a much bigger area , from Great lakes ..to the Big Easy , can you just imagine Madigra in GTA IV ?...west to Texas , back up to Denver over to The Arch in St.louis , an Kansas City .Maybe up to Detroit where stories of angry out of work factory workers are. The Chicago area alone is bigger than LA. The surrounding areas ,like Branson , Nashville could be the games Las Venturras type vacation spot for the new guy to roam an play in.
And there is that largest of all water ...the Missisippi river , to make your new country an island (it should be a new name , not the real ones) like the State of New Madrid or you guys sart a thread on what you want to call the new country. Then someone let Rock* know . Hey ...maybe they would surprize us an pick the name we vote for , or a list of possible favorite names.

RollingStones
03-25-2007, 12:13 PM
These things are essential in my opinion:
- Make you own character.
- Choose his voice (Different voices to choose).
- Make your own gang logo.
- Choose clothes for your gang members (Or just colours). Also choose which types of men makes your gang (Black people, white people, Asian people etc. etc. etc.).
- Choose your gang car and choose your gang's weapons (Maybe first later in the game after you've built up your gang).
- Have the story mode develop from your character going from being alone to owning his own gang.
- Have territories.
- Have some territories that can't be taken over (Like if the Yakuza is in, it's better that they have a territory that can't be taken over because that's their home. I hated that some gangs almost disappeared in SA after you had taken all their territories). All gangs must stay.
- Online play.
- In your own territory you must have your own little "castle". Not frickin' Grove Street again (Although that fit in great in SA). Have your gang members living in all the houses leading up to your "castle" (or "fortress" if you will). Just make sure that you have your friends close, and your enemies in a territory far enough away, so that the territories doesn't overlap each other. Would be cool with some gang in one end of the town and your gang in the other end of town.
- Your home (The safe house you have when your a gang lord) must have a helicopter landing pad on top (Where you can save your helis), a "little" dock house out back (Room for a boat of your choice), a little aircraft hangar (Save a plane), a big garage for like 10 cars. Also, the house and the sorrounding garden (If that's what they choose to have around it, must be big. I don't care if the house is small for starters, but it must be big when the game ends).
- No saved vehicles disappearing or in other words: None of those bad bugs that we got with all the PS2 games.

jayuk2
03-25-2007, 01:57 PM
i dont want the gang territories back like they were in SA, the saints row one got annoying aswell.

and id rather the map be the size of previous games rather than sacrificing the quality and content on some stupidly big map.

Havok
03-25-2007, 02:11 PM
i want it to be Jewish Vs. Irish mobs

i think that would be awsome.

FG
03-25-2007, 02:19 PM
1) just 20% bigger map than SA , with more city scape

2)more details ,like non-invisable food , you see the items in the hand ,detailed interiors

3)More aircraft added to what SA had , like ultra lite helo`s an planes

4)mini subs , scuba gear , underwater dome to invade an take over ,sunken ships etc;

comics22
03-25-2007, 04:12 PM
more useful vhelchles.(less specialized ones) less if not no taxis outside the citys. Smarter AI drivers. Less police helicopters, (no city has an ifinite ammount oif police choppers). less cops that spawn all over the damn place when your wanted. customize every car (or lat least paint). free design with paint, not just choose a color.

possibly somehting like, you can have the option of when the cops come after you you have a choice to try to run or you can just pull over and get a fine or somehitng.(money taken out) or if you dont have any money you get arrested.

possibly have cars that run outa gas and get damaged (ie. go off a cliff car kinda grinds to a halt)

i would liek to see GTA be a tad bit more realistic. just enough to make it a little bit more life like but not too much so it doesnt stray too far from its roots.

id love to see the whole food eating muscle fat stammina stuff go away. its realistic sure but it gets downright annoying sometimes...


AND SNOW! i want to be able to go slidin around on snow! then they could add snomobiles!

RollingStones
03-26-2007, 07:02 AM
Btw: Blinker Lights On The Frickin' Cars Is A Must!!!

tmac9wr
03-26-2007, 01:11 PM
I don't like the idea of having a fully customizable character....I understand why people would want it, but I like GTA to feel like a movie almost. There needs to be a main character who Rockstar makes solely for a specific storyline so everything can fit.

If there was going to be a "create a character" type of mode, I think the best way to do it would be to have it in online play for a "create an empire" style of play which I'm sure has been mentioned on here earlier.

I definitely agree with getting to choose your clothes, colors of clothing, cars, etc. One thing that frustrated me in SA was that there was a decent amount of clothing, but you couldn't change the colors of it most of the time. There definitely needs to be a much larger selection of clothes in IV and also a larger selection of car customization, and also cooler safehouses. There wasn't really a place in SA that could be bought that was equal the Scarface Mansion in Vice City....Madd Dogg's place was cool, but it technically was still his place, not yours. I think it'd be a lot cooler to have 5-6 different mansions that you could choose from so everyone could find their own style.

Something that I think would also make the gameplay a bit more challenging would be to change the driving...if you're going the top speed of your car and then you hit a tree, you shouldn't just bounce off the tree and be able to keep driving, I wanna see cars get completely mangled if you get into a serious accident...and when this happens your character shouldn't be able to get out with 100% health, they should most likely die depending on the seriousness of the accident.

Along the same lines of that would be showing wear and tear on your character. If you've been shot like 10 times and you're about to die, you shouldn't look the same way as you did with full health. There's more that I'd like but this will get way too long if I decided to type out everything.

Vortigern
03-26-2007, 03:35 PM
Some thoughts about weaponry.
-custom weapons (scopes, lasers, silencers etc.)
-ability to buy ammo instead of the same gun all over again
-a new system of managing your weapons: the ability to stack weapons and ammo you aren't currently using in safehouses and cars, so you don't lose them if you should choose to take another weapon of the same type. Maybe make all weapons available in all safehouses.
-restricted free aim in cars (I mean blind spots behind and on the right side of the car)
-a huuuge variety of weapons of all eras, melee and other (imagine, how cool would it be to shoot someone with a musket or something :) ). Really, everything from Napoleon to modern day would be awesome (for melee from Antiquity).
Some other ideas:
-not so many fools on the roads who do stupid things without reason
-animals! Horses, cows, dogs, wild pigs, bears, dinosaurs...
-more cars, maybe implement older types of cars from Vice City or so...
-ability to play various instruments, a bit like the dancing in SA, just messing around with the arrow keys. i.e. trumpet with 3 keys you'ld have to push according to instructions on the screen, trombone (just up and down), maybe saxophone, piano, guitar in a simplified way...that'd be great fun!

-and, of course, a PC version ;)

comics22
03-26-2007, 05:33 PM
not that i care or anything but im sure the damn animal rights groups would throw a hissy fit about people killing non real/alive animals...its not my fault squirrels are so dumb they run under my tires after they would have been just fine where they were....

about the driving damaged cars: Yes id love to see that. maybe not super realistic but if youve ever played driver parallel lines id love to have it like that.

i dont think i mentioned this before but i really dont care what my guy looks like. i changed him once and hes been liek that for a long long time...its not the sims...

but maybe instead of having the cars fully paintable with your own designs (like have a spray paint can and go to town) only unlock that after you beat the game or somehitng. cuz once the missions are beat, the only things left to do are driving around and hitting stuff...

FG
03-26-2007, 06:58 PM
Yeah. Of course, you know that the El train is in mega-disrepair. I just read about it somewhere, I think on CNN earlier today. Anyhow, the idea is a good one. I guess that "Carcer City" isn't out-of-bounds for a northern city. I guess also that the name "carcer" means "prison." Not sure how that figures into Chicago (NO snarky comments, please) but I suppose that any metropolitan has a bit of an incarcerated feel... depending on where you are in the city.

- James
Yeah , Chicago could give it a run for 1st place for most prisons , Federal ,state, etc;

Also , Transportation to an from other places..well Rock* would have plenty to work with :)

navin00
03-27-2007, 03:01 AM
As GTA Will release in october,some frend of mine is working in Rockstar north as a security labourers they have confirmed me that some part of the GTA 4 is taken from INDIA Something PUNJAB.And they also mentioned that the game is based on NYC Gang Bangers and mafia,there are many new things included in this edition like modifying ur own house ,villas etc..i m hungrily looking for this game to release.

Lettermaniac
03-27-2007, 03:37 AM
Ooh yeah that really makes sense, NYC gangs in India! :roll:

victim
03-27-2007, 05:05 AM
What I want from the map.

- An American metropolis. (Based on: Philadelphia, Boston, New Jersey, Chicago or Detroit)
- Bellow, to the east, a large body of water which consists of the Caribbean (Based on: Cuba, Dominican Republic or Haiti.)
- Bellow to the west a border that takes you into South America, then expands later into full on South America (Based on: Columbia, Mexico or Bolivia)

I did a quick version of the map in paint to explain things:

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/5629/untitledaz 3.png (http://imageshack.us)

jammsbro
03-27-2007, 05:46 AM
some better mini games would be good. no-one really wanted to play the console or arcade games.

ffVII was full of really good mini games, lots of them you had to hunt out.

Vortigern
03-27-2007, 06:06 AM
GTA IV in India?? Your friend must be a very good security guy, leaking information to you. But I think you don't have a friend at R*, and India based GTA sounds very unrealistic.

navin00
03-27-2007, 08:05 AM
GTA IV in India?? Your friend must be a very good security guy, leaking information to you. But I think you don't have a friend at R*, and India based GTA sounds very unrealistic.

by the way for ur info 10% of the whole R* team r Indian...
go check it out..on the credit side of gta sanandreas....

.:nemesis:.
03-27-2007, 08:10 AM
Would you guys mind keeping ON TOPIC.

ivar87
03-27-2007, 08:36 AM
About the animals.
I've seen and killed animals in these games: FarCry, STALKER, Boiling Point, Hitman Blood Money, Call of Juarez. And I know there are more games with animals in them which you can kill (In some cases maybe not).
But I haven't heard any bullshit from PETA or whatnot, so basically it might be ok to put animals in the next GTA.

Only thing worrying me about this is that GTA is the only one that would get the blame for these things cause of it's history with controversial features. Hoping for the best tho'.

ReLLo
03-27-2007, 09:11 AM
There are games out there where all ya do is kill animals, so I see no reason as to why GTA IV shouldn't have dogs, or cats, or cows, bulls, chickens, pigs, monkeys, horses, whatever.

It's not like killing a cow is worse than killing a person, besides, wehn you kill an animal you could get health, so you're eating what you kill, lol.

Gupi
03-27-2007, 09:19 AM
Yeah they should definetly add animals into the next GTA. Nothing more realistic than driving full speed across the highway being chased by a dozen cop cars and an overhead chopper, when a [insert animal here] steps into the road. Roadkill anyone? :lick:

UnleadedPenguin
03-27-2007, 01:14 PM
If they have freeways/motorways/autobahns/whatever in IV, I hope they update the NPC car AI. When you were going at top speed (even with NOS) every car around you accelerated to match your speed, as if the hardware couldn't keep up with generating cars ahead for you to overtake. Completely unrealistic.

SoReal
03-27-2007, 05:19 PM
first post here :smoke:


im shocked no one has mentioned children and teenagers running around playing football.Could also be a mission to maybe protect the mafias daughter etc etc

also i agree about adding animal.Dogs peeing up the wall,birds shitting on your car,police riding horse back.Also police dogs to chase ya down.also would be nice to have a pet shop to buy yourself a dog etc etc.The dog could act as a bodyguard and chase down anyone at your request.

they gotta do summit with the aim system too,like ill be getting shot by a bad guy.I aim and th eplayer shoots a inocent ped all while im getting y ass kicked.

also the fight combat has GOTTA be improved.Im sorry but it was so very basic in the gta series.

i also like the idea of the missions having different outcomes.More realistic and makes you wanna complete again and again.

also make more use of the multiplayer option,the restricted distance in GTA:SA was freakin annoyin.

FG
03-27-2007, 05:44 PM
CNN would have a big story on how someone modded the game to slaughter the inocents .

Its been talked about here , VCS has a baby in a cut scene :)

SoReal
03-27-2007, 05:53 PM
CNN would have a big story on how someone modded the game to slaughter the inocents .

Its been talked about here , VCS has a baby in a cut scene :)

yer but as long as your buyin a game which is 18+ and your actually 18+ who cares ? lol

max payne had a cut scene of a baby dead bloody in its cot??? is that anyworse.Not to mention
movies these days.I cant see how having children and animals within the game could be so controversial.

also controversy never did no harm to r* anyway.Manhunt shifted thousands of copies just from being in the papers :evil3:

ivar87
03-27-2007, 05:53 PM
SoReal, the aiming system on all the PC versions has been just superb.
I've tried playing on PS2 and I know why you want something new ;D
I can't imagine how ppl actually finish the game on the consoles. It's crazy.
Teenagers and kids have been mentioned already. Unfortunately I seriously doubt it will be seen in the game, ever. Too many ppl against it. Too bad, would make the game all the more fun.
I really like the idea about pets, especially guard dogs. Other pets would be rather useless, but maybe fun for some people, but guard dogs would make great use.

-Working turnsignals. Other cars will use them, but not all of them. Randomly some cars won't - like in real life.
And this could add a little "minigame" in the game too. Lets say you're being chased by the police, you wanna turn to the right, but instead you push a button that makes the left turnsignal light up. The police will think you're going to the left, but in reality you're going to the right. Thusly you gain a little more time to escape.
(I dunno how this could be achieved on the console though. The lack of buttons might make it impossible.)

- Since VC we've had crouch, how about prone? You could even be able to hide under higher cars etc.

- IF flying out the car's window when having a huge crash is in the game, I'd want to be able to (optionally) use a seatbelt. You wanna do tricks and die awesomely - go ahead do it, but some of us sometimes want to drive safely.

- Return of the TAB burp/fart. Just to insult people on the streets^__^

SoReal
03-27-2007, 06:00 PM
SoReal, the aiming system on all the PC versions has been just superb.
I've tried playing on PS2 and I know why you want something new ;D
I can't imagine how ppl actually finish the game on the consoles. It's crazy.
Teenagers and kids have been mentioned already. Unfortunately I seriously doubt it will be seen in the game, ever. Too many ppl against it. Too bad, would make the game all the more fun.
I really like the idea about pets, especially guard dogs. Other pets would be rather useless, but maybe fun for some people, but guard dogs would make great use.

yes lmao

ive only ever played gta via console (although i do have pc versions of gta) but i have to admit the aiming system is pathetic.

And yer guard dogs,police dogs,police horses would be brilliant im glad you agree.Animals like piegons and seagulls would simply be a graphic feature but the lil details would be great.

another idea i forgot to add earlier:


in GTA:VCS the taking over/buying/building and then expanding a buisness was brilliant addition to the series.They should take this futher.Like include the choice of more buisness' and skyscrappers.Oh and r* when you own buissness' dont make oposing gangs attack my buisness' every five minutes.It gets really annoying lol.

Gupi
03-27-2007, 06:06 PM
Oh and r* when you own buissness' dont make oposing gangs attack my buisness' every five minutes.It gets really annoying lol.
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Hell yes, same goes for the gang territories under our control. There should be a little timer that starts after you've successfully taken over a business/gang territory so you can atleast do other things for awhile before you have to get back into the frantic action, 'tis the little things. :)

Vortigern
03-27-2007, 06:08 PM
Children in GTA would surely be a bad idea. Running over children would not be what I expect from a video game either. R* wouldn't risk burning itself on such a hot issue, even though they are used to some controversy.

SoReal
03-27-2007, 06:16 PM
Children in GTA would surely be a bad idea. Running over children would not be what I expect from a video game either. R* wouldn't risk burning itself on such a hot issue, even though they are used to some controversy.

but running over a old lady is acceptable??? :angel: lmao.I suppose they cant add children with all the 'Polictical correctness' these days but surely they can add them in missions??? like save the mafia bosses daughter etc etc

I dunno...also Gupi22 glad you agree :smoke: ,another idea:


i liked the way in GTA:VCS we had a guest apperance from Phil Collins.Lets have some more cameo apperances that would be awesome.Save borat from the bear??? lmao

Suapsycho
03-27-2007, 06:42 PM
I want to create my own character. ME!






@ FireGod: Thanks man. I'm finally 21!

SoReal
03-27-2007, 06:48 PM
I want to create my own character. ME!

yes i want to make my own character ME! to come and kick your ass via online multiplayer mode :evil3: lmao

Lettermaniac
03-27-2007, 10:13 PM
What I want from the map.

- An American metropolis. (Based on: Philadelphia, Boston, New Jersey, Chicago or Detroit)
- Bellow, to the east, a large body of water which consists of the Caribbean (Based on: Cuba, Dominican Republic or Haiti.)
- Bellow to the west a border that takes you into South America, then expands later into full on South America (Based on: Columbia, Mexico or Bolivia)

I did a quick version of the map in paint to explain things:

*crocodile eating dismembered penis* (http://imageshack.us)

I really like that idea. I'd be very happy with that, but if their was countryside in between South American and Metropolis (say, a desert and huge plains) that would be even better. Maybe a tropical rainforst on the Carribean Island as well as some towns.

FG
03-27-2007, 10:25 PM
@ LM , you an victim got a good idea.....include the mayan temples aswell.

BTW , how far along is IV in its developement ? I hope Rock* is looking at this

forum .
@ suapsycho...Happy Brithday :)

Lettermaniac
03-27-2007, 10:39 PM
They would be some way into production now, setting/character/all the stuff that we speculate would probably have been added already. It's never to late to make little additions though ;)

FG
03-27-2007, 10:41 PM
Thx LM , good to know...hope they are watching us. I want a really blockbuster GTAIV.
Edit : Rock* please give us more save places , with bigger storage.....an I still want a Bounty Hunter side mission.

SoReal
03-27-2007, 10:47 PM
i should imagine graphics are like 85% complete considering a trailer is about to be put out.Man i dont think ive anticipated a game so much :S

hey another point i think should be disscussed:

i hope r* take full advantage of the being able to download content via the ps3.They should give us the option to download new skins,vehicles,buisness buildings,clothes etc etc and also fan made content.Also for like a small fee at some point they should make mini expansion packs that add new missions and stories.I just really want them to use the internet options to its fullest.

also now you can download stuff onto your ps3 direct,if there is like bugs for the game,will it be possible to download patches that will fix these problems? or is that strictly pc only.

FG
03-27-2007, 10:55 PM
Well I have seen the skills of the folks at this site an they or excellant , rock* should take note. A lot of good ideas.....that will spell out $$$ for Rock*

Edit: I have thought that bunji jumping would be good pastime ,aswell.

SoReal
03-27-2007, 11:18 PM
few more ideas :smoke:


id also like to see the fight system upgraded.Kinda similar to 'true crimes' fight system.I just find GTA's fighting rather boring and repetetive.Headbuts,round house kicks,gut punches,uppercuts...all that good stuff.Bring the 'execution' system implemented in manhunt.Let us sneak up behind them and do a instant k'o.Make me wanna fight people rather then shoot all the time.

A little thing that annoyed me (maybe just me who noticed) but when you approach a mission like 'kill the gang' as soon as them red arrows appear within site they automatically attack you as if they know what car your in -_- they shouldnt instead shout out things like 'its him!' or 'get him lads' etc etc

i gotta say i loved the idea of different reactions to gun shots in the street,rather then everyone running -_-
they should duck and run for cover behind cars and in alley ways.Have some running but not everyone.

i think they should use a system similar to 'scarface' where a cop wont shoot you if you have one star.Instead will attempt to pull you over and approach you.You have a balance bar appear (maybe a chance to use ps3 controllers tilt sensor thing) and the better you get it the less the money fine.

better sound effects thruout is needed.Like at night down the alleys you hear cats and dogs...dustbins fallin over...

also like someone said,make night actually seem like night time.Less cars,less people and that dark atmosphere.Make me fear walking down a alleyway alone.Have street lamps flicker.

how about tramps/bums goin around...approaching people for money.Sleepin at night in doorways.

FG
03-27-2007, 11:22 PM
@ soReal ,I like the realizem of bums asking for hand out

Maybe someone out picking up cans an bottles ..for extra cash ,ha ha.
Thats a side mission :laugh:

Edit : hmm...dumpster diving if your low on fat :laugh:

Vortigern
03-28-2007, 05:37 AM
Another idea, about getting busted: before they just release you, they could let you do an attempt to escape and steal your weapons back, or buy your freedom with a mission for the cops!

jammsbro
03-28-2007, 05:44 AM
i think i'd like a european setting for GTA IV. germany, france and spain could be pretty cool but the "darker" side of europe, the eastern areas and russia could have some really cool stuff. dangerous too.

i'm also worried that the time period it is set in will define the music once again. i couldn't handle listening to the average monkeys and the view if it was set now.

navin00
03-28-2007, 07:51 AM
Is GTA4 later be coming on PS2...?

Gupi
03-28-2007, 08:43 AM
Is GTA4 later be coming on PS2...?

I highly doubt it.

Scott
03-28-2007, 10:17 AM
i should imagine graphics are like 85% complete considering a trailer is about to be put out.Man i dont think ive anticipated a game so much :S

hey another point i think should be disscussed:

i hope r* take full advantage of the being able to download content via the ps3.They should give us the option to download new skins,vehicles,buisness buildings,clothes etc etc and also fan made content.Also for like a small fee at some point they should make mini expansion packs that add new missions and stories.I just really want them to use the internet options to its fullest.

also now you can download stuff onto your ps3 direct,if there is like bugs for the game,will it be possible to download patches that will fix these problems? or is that strictly pc only.

They already are doing that, but it's exclusive to the 360.

Victim and LM, your ideas are awesome.

stephen_robinson
03-29-2007, 08:01 PM
Exclusive to 360? That is crap.

Scott
03-29-2007, 08:48 PM
You're late, it was announced at E3 2006. Been general knowledge for a long time now.

Ian
03-29-2007, 09:25 PM
I read in IGN that the bridge might be fenced out again to prevent the player from getting to the other side. I don't want another 'just block him from getting there' approach. Here's an idea of a more realistic approach:

Have police road block on the bridges. There'd be a long queue of cars, all turning back at that point. If the player reaches the roadblock the police will ask him to turn back due to danger (of something - terror plot maybe?). If ramming the roadblock was attempted, however, bullets will fly, and something will definitely blow up or a bullet will 100% kill the player.

C-Bullets
03-29-2007, 09:43 PM
I hope you can have access to all the buildings. Also being able to run business's like in Vice City and do mission's for them, I liked it best from the original Vice.

—Skeet Swayze—
03-30-2007, 02:47 AM
A gawd damn retrievable pet or side-kick would be a nice bonus.


Blackmarket Dealers: Weapons, drugs (buffers, etc.), blueprints (maps to be purchased)



Lasting body damage to player, e.g., damage should be visible well after character fully heals.

kin
03-30-2007, 06:49 AM
uhm ok.. maybe I'm a bit late but,

I hope the character must sleep in order to get some health/rest and if you don't sleep, you will fall into sleep in the car or street and get robbed or jailed by police with possetion of maybe weapons and stuff.

Amnesiac
03-30-2007, 10:22 AM
They already are doing that, but it's exclusive to the 360.

Yes and no, the ps3 is having its own seperate content to download. 360 just announced it first.

datballa
03-30-2007, 11:36 AM
What I want, is the whole state of NY. Im talking all of manhattan, bronx, yonkers, queens, brooklyn, long island and some upstate towns like syracuse, rochester and buffalo. Picture this: One mission has you flying out to buffalo to kill somebody. What better way to kill that person than to ram his car off into Niagra falls?? :smash: :smash: :smash: :evil3: :finger: :laugh:

jackaz195
03-30-2007, 02:39 PM
I Wanna See!:
-wildlife That Is Area Specific, Eg In The Woods Bears, Big Cats, Deer, Moose Etc.., Urban Can Have Cats Goin About, Dogs On Ped Leashes, The Odd Snake Just About Anywhere I Spose.
Underwater There Should Be Lots Of Fish, Dolphins, Sharks That Can Attck, Whales, Maybe A Humunghous Blue Whale That Can Form A Feature.

-underwater Features Such As A Shipwreck That Is Explorable, Treasure That Can Be Stolen(rival Treasure Hunter Fights Underwater Anyone?)- An Upgrade Or Qualification (schools Again Ala Sa?) At One Point In Game So That Rebreather Is Available At Save Point So U Can Swim Much Longer Underwater?

-customizable Weapon Sets That Can Be Set At Save Points. Like Having Brass Knuckles As Your Melee, Whilst Having A Mid Assault Weapon That Isn't Generally In That Specific Set?(i Know That Is Already Possible To A Certai Extent, Though More 'pre-battle/mission' Options Should Be Available.

-car Modifactions In My Opinion Should Be Left As They Were In Sa(maybe Even Less) As Cars And Vehicles In Gta Games Are So Disposable And Re-ocurring That Its Fairly Pointless And A Watse Of Code?

-soldier Of Fortune Style Sectioned Bodies So You Can Blow A Limb Or Head Off More Realisitcally?

The Trailer Has Quite Worried Me About Scale Etc, So Here Are A Few Things That I Would Like To See Kept That Make Gta What It Is-

-the New 'liberty City' Looks Very Very Realistic And Maybe Is Styled On Manhattan- R* Can't Forget Abput Gta Being An Escapist Game, And Is Not A Sim Of Real Life, The Same Charm And Humour Must Be Included So That People Don't Take It Too Seriously, Otherwise Whats The Point?

-countryside! Oh Lovely Countryside! There Must Be Areas Such As The Bad Lands Or The Desert In Sa So We Can Run Away And Create Havoc With Nature! Now That For Me And Lot Of People I Know Make Gta 'real'.

-if Gta Iv Is One City (ie. Lc), Then The City Must Be Massive, We Are Used To Being Able To Move Between At Leat 3 Now!(sa) And The Different Themes, Peds Cars Etc Are Split Up By The Great Bits In Between Such As Dense Woods, Ghost Towns, And Mountains(edit Mountain)

-aircraft Cant Possibly Be Dropped, As Once Again We Are Used To Them, R* Cant Backpeddle On Ideas Based On The Fact They 'want To Make A Realistic Living Breathing Metropolis', Meaning Idefo Believe There Must Be Much More Than 'manhattan'


Whewww, I'll Shut It Now, May Be Back For More! U Know Bored At Work The Last Few Weeks/month Or So, I Have Leant At My Till And Wrote All These Things Down!...sadddd

Macey
03-30-2007, 02:56 PM
What would make the game even better for me is the game to have a mountainous (or at least hilly) area to explore.

FG
03-30-2007, 02:58 PM
What would make the game even better for me is the game to have a mountainous (or at least hilly) area to explore.

Rock* doesnt have to stick with the actual real life scenery, they will have Mts. cheers :)

Le GoogelGuRu
03-30-2007, 05:52 PM
I read in IGN that the bridge might be fenced out again to prevent the player from getting to the other side. I don't want another 'just block him from getting there' approach. Here's an idea of a more realistic approach:

Have police road block on the bridges. There'd be a long queue of cars, all turning back at that point. If the player reaches the roadblock the police will ask him to turn back due to danger (of something - terror plot maybe?). If ramming the roadblock was attempted, however, bullets will fly, and something will definitely blow up or a bullet will 100% kill the player.
That's an interesting idea. :)

Mighty D.R.
03-30-2007, 06:41 PM
Have Liberty City the place you start out in, and be able to unlock and fly to other cities in the country.

Under_score
03-30-2007, 06:43 PM
Online play and vastly improved hand to hand combat.

SA
03-30-2007, 06:59 PM
I want my word to be loud and heard!

I hope that when you enter a train, it's not a cinematic view. BORING:

I hope you can actually walk around in the train and mess with passangers!

vermillion
03-30-2007, 08:43 PM
ok the thing i need absolutely is for it to be released on pc when they release it on ps3 and xbox or if not rockstar better not delay it 6+ months like sa and if it was on pc rockstar could make downloadable content packs just like ea do with battlefield that would keep me spending so long on the game instead of getting bored of it after completing it 3 times also i want online play i don't want to use a 3rd party program that does not have full game features on it and massive lag

swallowed
03-30-2007, 09:03 PM
I would like to see a variety of vehicles,boats,aircrafts,etc in IV.

If ragdoll physics are in the game I think it would be pretty awesome, this is something that most people have mentioned already..

Also, I would like to hear music coming from other people's cars as they drive past you (Something I mentioned in another thread)

And most of all, I would want a lot of missions and side missions to keep me occupied with the game, not that I would lost interest in it at all.

Under_score
03-30-2007, 09:38 PM
Oh yeah. Ragdoll physics and clothing stores.

Lettermaniac
03-30-2007, 09:57 PM
What I want, is the whole state of NY. Im talking all of manhattan, bronx, yonkers, queens, brooklyn, long island and some upstate towns like syracuse, rochester and buffalo. Picture this: One mission has you flying out to buffalo to kill somebody. What better way to kill that person than to ram his car off into Niagra falls?? *insane smileys*

Yeah that sounds quite cool. Being able to fly around the state of New York (or whatever Rockstar call it) would be great.

Maybe we could have Carcer City, possibly Vice City, and then a whole open countryside area, with many small towns.

FG
03-30-2007, 10:02 PM
Thats what Iam talkin bout all thos you said ...LM an SA aswell. Hey Rock* can tweak the map ...west coast is only 5min:s flying time from LC or (NYC) by GTA physics...right! :)

comics22
03-31-2007, 12:15 AM
I really liek ideas some ideas people have posted on here. theres just some things i would LOVE to see but probably will never happen, would be animals that you could kill, im sure the PITA bastards would have a HUGE hayday over it (even tho i know of several freeroam games where u can plow into a deer and other stuff) cuz belive me id love to go blasting thru the woods and hit a few deer...same priniple with having school busses and children in GTA, while its more realistic some dumbass parent would b*tch about it...

Id love to see the business owner role come back to GTA.

I wonder if there will be a russian part you fly to? because well the main carachter has a russian accent...and as most of you know there is a well made GTA criminal russa mod thats out..(cars missions, scenery buildings etc..) Im sure the game makers at R* have heard about that...

—Skeet Swayze—
03-31-2007, 03:50 AM
Air turbulence

kylea
03-31-2007, 08:43 AM
[are You Physho Come On Set Some More Vice City Like Gameplay!

Him
03-31-2007, 09:05 AM
I kinda liked the Empire building stuff in VCS, it took what they Started in vice City with all the property you could own and expanded it, hope fully R* goes all out on this feature and fleshes it out a lot more.

radagast
03-31-2007, 07:03 PM
I would like to see...

- Blood and gore( Limbs being able to blown/shot off, or even guts spilling out of victim:evil3: )

- Customizable weapons! For example, you go to "Ammunation" or what ever it will be called and you are able to buy attatchments for your weapons, like scopes, laser sights, flash lights, m203(grenade launcher), for grips and things like that,

- Destructable enviroment, like blowing up buildings and land marks etc..

- More weapons like paintball guns :rolleyes: and non leathal weapons like pepper spray or bean bag firing guns.

- Being able to use random objects as weapons ex. Sticks, Rocks etc..

Scott
03-31-2007, 08:09 PM
There was a beanbag gun in True Crime: NYC. It sucked.

Independant suspension. Ex;

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3396/gtaivloadr r6.png

(For paint, I'm proud)

Anyway. As you may or may not be able to see every axle is independent. So if you had two people sitting in the front, the load would be more, so the rear end would be lighter in corners and visibly higher (if not by much). Each car would have it's own independent suspension map, relating to force, feedback and strength (strong or weak, soft or hard etc.). A harder car wouldn't alter much visibly due to load, but would react more to bumps in the road at higher speeds. Whereas a car with softer suspension would visibly alter due to load and be a lot smoother, but roll more as a result, and become unresponsive at speed.

And also, tyre pressure would affect a cars handling. Much like with spike strips, with no air at all and running on rims the car is near impossible to control at speeds. In the same way, a car will have much more precise handling at higher speeds with a high or over pressured tyre, but it will be twitchy, and if you push too much the car won't be able to hold on and will lose control. In the same way, and under pressured tyre will give much slower handling at low speeds, and will get slightly better at higher speeds, but not by much. But you will be able to push the car much more before it goes out of control.

That's all for now, my post is detailed enough I believe.

Blowin'Dro
03-31-2007, 09:00 PM
more weapons. like not just a pistol, like a M9, Glock 17, USP, etc.

King Cobra
03-31-2007, 09:23 PM
Basically, I'd want it to be as realistic as possible.

-The ability to rob someone without killing them.
-Improved car physics
-Ragdoll physics
-Listen to music while walking. MP3's, anyone?
-Mafia theme, for the love of God. No more hoog gangsters, please!
-Tons and tons of radio stations.

I'll probably think of more later.

Lettermaniac
03-31-2007, 09:38 PM
I like nearly 100% of your ideas Scott, seems you want ridiculous realism like me. It already looks like the cars struts have been totally improved, the way it bounces over that metal sheet in the third scene is impressive.

Himuro
04-01-2007, 12:24 AM
I want to be able to choose WHAT gang I work for. If I'm starting a new life in America, I want to be make it feel as if I'm starting anew as this character. THis means, I want to be able to choose his future, not R*.

I really hope games like Oblivion give them inspiration to make it more open ended. If they take notice of their past history with the series, notably gta2, they can go far. It needs to feel more non linear in terms of story progression.

Finally, I'd like to be able to betray my gang whenever I want, and switch sides. Being set with one gang would be boring.

They did it in GTA2. Been waiting for them to bring that set up back but with an actual storyline.

nPatel689
04-01-2007, 12:28 AM
Whats your favorite side mission to do? What new side missions do you want in GTA IV. I want the insurance fraud mission like in Saints Row. Also can you imagine the unique stunt jumps in Liberty City. I can see myself jumping from building to building.

mmartin
04-01-2007, 05:26 AM
well i think the physics are most important.
* Improved car physics.
* Ragdoll physics
* Realistic explosions
* Big map
* And difficult money making, not like you have 1000000 in your pocket and you can buy everything.
* More realistic flying with planes. And by that i mean the planes have to be fast. not like Hydra in SA. And the target locking system has to be better, too.
* Better AI! So the cops can get you. Remember Mafia?

RubberDuck
04-01-2007, 05:38 AM
* Better AI! So the cops can get you. Remember Mafia?

I sure as hell do remember mafia, and how long ago was that game made? Some aspects of Mafia put even the latest GTAs to shame.

kin
04-01-2007, 05:46 AM
uhm here's another one..

Able to use a car or van to put items in the trunk. The player can drag and drop objects (even dead bodies).

Or player may find money, energy bars, dope, weapons, ammo etc. in the dashboard randomly

Vortigern
04-01-2007, 07:28 AM
It will probably have the usual stuff, maybe replace pizza deliveries with newspapers (not that it would make any difference). Maybe add a 'private detective' mission, taking photographs and shadowing people. And add something to the police missions: take criminals in instead of blasting them.

PicoDeath
04-01-2007, 07:30 AM
Insurance fruad was boring in saints row, sometimes funny but not really fun. I just want unique stunts, packages, rampages etc :p

FG
04-01-2007, 07:31 AM
It will have bounty hunter, I am hoping :)

fluff
04-01-2007, 07:32 AM
i have 2 ideas
Hitman missions-your givin a place and a time to kill a target
Pilot missions-Depends on if there are more then one city

Libertine
04-01-2007, 01:28 PM
probably one used before but, multiple cities, but larger, like Liberty City, Vice City and the San Andreas state in one game would be really good. In oblivion,i think the world size was 1.6km, anyone reckon that's possible to fit in all of the cities??

Spread Da Love
04-01-2007, 02:21 PM
Well, here goes my wishlist:

TRANSPORTATION:
-"Classic" cars from previous games. I want to ride a red convertible in a desert, the character dressed up as Raoul Duke :D

- Ability to mod bikes too. (And LOTS of bikes)

-Some variety in cars. Yeah, I know its based on 2000's but I own like 10 games where you can ride Escalades, Hummers and 300c's. Forget that bling bling-shit, give us ordinary cars!

-No skateboards or such. They would be too slow to do anything with anyway, and tricks would be that basic "Wheelie and jump". Get some early Tony Hawk-installments if you want to skate.

-Bicycles can be there, but more realistic. It was just odd that you could overtake cars in interstate with a bmx. Or bunnyhop over a house.

-NO CABBIE'S! They have always been there, and I have started to hate them.

-Possibility to use public transport (Train, Metro, Ferry, Cable car, Taxi....)

-Planes, helicopters and parachutes. Stop bitching about terrorism, its a fucking video-game. Its ok to make games where Americans kill terrorists and tons of civilians, but not a game where you could be on the side of "bad-boys"?

RADIO:

-A radio station that plays METAL! No alternative(Although it would be cool too), not that wannabe-metal like Fall out Boy, My chemichal Romance etc. bands that are just a bunch of emo fucks.

-Sage(Radio X host) now grown up and praising god and family values and american dream in some radio-show.

-LAZLOW (Confirmed to be on board :rogier: )

Possibility to "Host your own radio". A radio station with a host but without music, and you can put your own mp3's, and choose speaks and commercials. That way you can have at least one radio-station with variety, because in time, every radiostation in GTA starts to be annoyingly repetitive.

WEAPONS AND THEIR EFFECTS:

-MORE of them!!!! I want MOAR!:evil3: And possibility to mod them with scopes etc.

-Possibility to shoot off limbs but not like in Soldier of Fortune. It has to be quite rare (except with explosives).

-Possibility to watch your kills as instant replay. Slow-mo, turning camera etc. (BOOM, Headshot!)

-After shooting a long period with a high-velocity weapon, the character could start bitching how his arms hurt like hell because of recoil. Maybe a small effect on aiming too.

-You can choose what guns do you double wield, and what dont.

-You can holster your weapon in car/bike because it looks stupid when there is a uzi sticking in his hand.

-Sawed off shotgun.

SETTING:

-SA, VC, LC and CC (Carcer) with HUGE countryside and desert between them. I really want to feel like "Im fucked up now" when I blow up my car in the middle of desert. I want to feel guilty about driving like an ass. :D

NPC'S:

-When you walk into a Cluckin bell and start slaughter people one by one with a assault rifle, they wont just scream and run or duck. I want them to panic! Throwing other people into lane of fire to save their own asses, climbing out of windows, praying for mercy on their knees, crying, offering money... Maybe even shitting in their pants.

-Possibility to kidnap and execute. You force a NPC into your car and drive somewhere, force the sucker on its knees and shoot it into head.

-If you kill someone in the middle of desert (no witnesses) there shouldnt be cops on your ass.

-You should be able to bury the bodies.

-When you kill someone, the body will not just disappear, the ambulance will arrive and take it away or if you kill someone in forest, some wild animal will come and devour it.

CHARACTER:

-When you fall from you bike or hurt yourself in some other way, the main character would swear in Russian. (If the russian guy is the main protagonist)

-More clothes and possibility to choose the colors of them.

-Faster way to change you clothes. It would be so cool if you arrived in your safehouse and just took off your shirt and threw it in sofa, and it would stay there unless you put it on again or take it to closet. That way your house could be really messy if you are untidy like me. And the clothes would wrinkle too.

-More variety in tattoos.

-MP3 player and possibility to "download" tracks you have heard in the ingame radio into it illegally. Its a crime sandbox-game, so it would fit.

-If you leave your car in street it will stay there for like 7 in-game days and then it will be taken into this place where they tow cars that have been parked wrong (I cant remember the english word). If you specially like some car, you can then have it back either by paying the fine for it, or sneaking there in night and stealing it back.

I have tons of ideas, but im out of energy so these will do.:lick:

EDIT: Almost forgot, a trenchcoat!

jayuk2
04-01-2007, 04:05 PM
yeah bounty hunter would be dope, but your NOT allowed to use guns. just fists...depending on rockstar's increase in AI etc this could work v well.

and

a way of provoking people.i only found out the personal need for this whilst playing saints row. i wanted to some kind of taunt to make enemies(gang members) start attacking

DoomMunke13
04-01-2007, 05:34 PM
Well, here goes my wishlist:

TRANSPORTATION:
-"Classic" cars from previous games. I want to ride a red convertible in a desert, the character dressed up as Raoul Duke :D

- Ability to mod bikes too. (And LOTS of bikes)

-Some variety in cars. Yeah, I know its based on 2000's but I own like 10 games where you can ride Escalades, Hummers and 300c's. Forget that bling bling-shit, give us ordinary cars!

-No skateboards or such. They would be too slow to do anything with anyway, and tricks would be that basic "Wheelie and jump". Get some early Tony Hawk-installments if you want to skate.

-Bicycles can be there, but more realistic. It was just odd that you could overtake cars in interstate with a bmx. Or bunnyhop over a house.

-NO CABBIE'S! They have always been there, and I have started to hate them.

-Possibility to use public transport (Train, Metro, Ferry, Cable car, Taxi....)

-Planes, helicopters and parachutes. Stop bitching about terrorism, its a fucking video-game. Its ok to make games where Americans kill terrorists and tons of civilians, but not a game where you could be on the side of "bad-boys"?

RADIO:

-A radio station that plays METAL! No alternative(Although it would be cool too), not that wannabe-metal like Fall out Boy, My chemichal Romance etc. bands that are just a bunch of emo fucks.

-Sage(Radio X host) now grown up and praising god and family values and american dream in some radio-show.

-LAZLOW (Confirmed to be on board :rogier: )

Possibility to "Host your own radio". A radio station with a host but without music, and you can put your own mp3's, and choose speaks and commercials. That way you can have at least one radio-station with variety, because in time, every radiostation in GTA starts to be annoyingly repetitive.

WEAPONS AND THEIR EFFECTS:

-MORE of them!!!! I want MOAR!:evil3: And possibility to mod them with scopes etc.

-Possibility to shoot off limbs but not like in Soldier of Fortune. It has to be quite rare (except with explosives).

-Possibility to watch your kills as instant replay. Slow-mo, turning camera etc. (BOOM, Headshot!)

-After shooting a long period with a high-velocity weapon, the character could start bitching how his arms hurt like hell because of recoil. Maybe a small effect on aiming too.

-You can choose what guns do you double wield, and what dont.

-You can holster your weapon in car/bike because it looks stupid when there is a uzi sticking in his hand.

-Sawed off shotgun.

SETTING:

-SA, VC, LC and CC (Carcer) with HUGE countryside and desert between them. I really want to feel like "Im fucked up now" when I blow up my car in the middle of desert. I want to feel guilty about driving like an ass. :D

NPC'S:

-When you walk into a Cluckin bell and start slaughter people one by one with a assault rifle, they wont just scream and run or duck. I want them to panic! Throwing other people into lane of fire to save their own asses, climbing out of windows, praying for mercy on their knees, crying, offering money... Maybe even shitting in their pants.

-Possibility to kidnap and execute. You force a NPC into your car and drive somewhere, force the sucker on its knees and shoot it into head.

-If you kill someone in the middle of desert (no witnesses) there shouldnt be cops on your ass.

-You should be able to bury the bodies.

-When you kill someone, the body will not just disappear, the ambulance will arrive and take it away or if you kill someone in forest, some wild animal will come and devour it.

CHARACTER:

-When you fall from you bike or hurt yourself in some other way, the main character would swear in Russian. (If the russian guy is the main protagonist)

-More clothes and possibility to choose the colors of them.

-Faster way to change you clothes. It would be so cool if you arrived in your safehouse and just took off your shirt and threw it in sofa, and it would stay there unless you put it on again or take it to closet. That way your house could be really messy if you are untidy like me. And the clothes would wrinkle too.

-More variety in tattoos.

-MP3 player and possibility to "download" tracks you have heard in the ingame radio into it illegally. Its a crime sandbox-game, so it would fit.

-If you leave your car in street it will stay there for like 7 in-game days and then it will be taken into this place where they tow cars that have been parked wrong (I cant remember the english word). If you specially like some car, you can then have it back either by paying the fine for it, or sneaking there in night and stealing it back.

I have tons of ideas, but im out of energy so these will do.:lick:

EDIT: Almost forgot, a trenchcoat!kickass ideas man, you stole then out of my mouth. They should have radio stations that are dedicated to like 80's music, 70's, 90's. You get the point. Also you should be able to download new radio stations off of Xbox live marketplace. Oh and not just downloadable radio stations, like weapons and cars and all that good stuff. So basically DLC (Downloadable Content). That would be the shit.

Ian
04-02-2007, 04:33 AM
Great ideas all, but I wonder if people have already asked for this: CLIMBABLE LADDERS!! I thought I was able to do this in SA but eventually gave up on trying.

I'd also reeeaaally want the car-stays-where-you-parked-it permanently feature. This does happen in GTA3 to a certain extent. You can't imagine how many times I went round a corner and crashed into my own car which I left in the middle of the street carelessly in GTA3.


-If you leave your car in street it will stay there for like 7 in-game days and then it will be taken into this place where they tow cars that have been parked wrong (I cant remember the english word). If you specially like some car, you can then have it back either by paying the fine for it, or sneaking there in night and stealing it back.

i think what you're looking for is a car impound?

Martino
04-02-2007, 11:04 AM
Hi Everybody!
My first post in a looong time eh!

Should be more active here...LOVE GTA!!!

Anyway got some crazy ideas for GTA IV don´t know if you would like them but here goes:

1. You could hear radio from the outside of cars and you could turn up the radio in-game so for example the police would not hear guns.

2. CRAZY gunfights!

I would love if you could gather up some crew and just start blastin´and then the enemies bring backup like cars and lots of people and you do so too!
Then the police are coming and everyone is shooting at them instead and the following day in newspapers and radio it would be hot news!

One other idea: It could also be richoshets(am I spelling right?) when you shoot so if you have a gunfight on times square the bullets are coming from all over and crushing signs and hitting inoocent people on the street and in offices and the next day workers are constructing and cleaning up your mess.

Libertine
04-03-2007, 05:20 PM
just a little one but an ipod look-a-like would be pretty good,you could use the songs off of your hard drive as the library then.

FG
04-03-2007, 05:32 PM
- car impound sounds good
-Music you play while outside car
- car stays put ; if its parked in a certain spot
-car goes to impound; if its left in bad spot
-car can be gotten back if you pay a fine
- car can be gotten back if you brake into impound lot
-if you take car by breaking in; you get wanted level- unless you use stealth

jammsbro
04-04-2007, 05:37 AM
finding top notch cars that are a wreck and burnt out would be a decent mini game. finding the parts to fix them up into a total pimpmobile.

being actually able to lose stars would be ace. i hate it when you are clearly hiding in the desrt behind a rock, in a bush and at night and as soon as you move joe flatfoot bust you.

i also hate that bike cops are immune to damage while getting off their bikes.

Ian
04-04-2007, 10:34 AM
Some more:

- A racetrack (or something similar) but may not be in tune with New York here then. (they could always spice things up). None of the Hotring thing, a full-blown track. (Hotring challenges alongside would be still be ok)

- cars that crumple when collides with something. And to add to effect, old cars crumple badly including the cabin, and new cars crumple at the front or back but cabin stays in shape, but of course, car still runs as durable as previous titles. driving and crashing an old car hard enough wll take out more health than in a new car (much like motorbikes in VC & SA). 50/50 chance of fire or simply just grinding to a halt and dying. 100% catches fire on gunfire.

BiggerThanJesus
04-04-2007, 10:36 AM
I want to play as a homosexual, just to see what it'll be like.

Nirvana 4 Life
04-04-2007, 11:02 AM
I want to play as a homosexual, just to see what it'll be like.
:rappo: THAT would seriously piss off GTA fans.

BiggerThanJesus
04-04-2007, 11:04 AM
It would be a great twist in the series though.

Imagine, instead of nodding coldly at whoever you're working for, you could prance in going "cooo-eeee darling, you're looking just fabulous!" etc.

And maybe that big purple dildo could be used for more than just hitting the peds with.

Libertine
04-04-2007, 11:32 AM
errr...anyway,how about anything is interactive,and no loading times between going in a building and walking back out into the street..minimal loading times.

Sir Baralot
04-04-2007, 12:14 PM
Wouldn't it be great if you had the option of inviting friends into your game via multiplayer to helpy you out with missions or just get a chase from the police.

Lecom
04-04-2007, 05:55 PM
Lots more secret missions, similar to the ones in GTA3 like Bitch'n Dog Food. If you don't hear that phone ring, you won't even know those missions are there. And I'm not talking about just "drive around in circles collecting checkpoints" crap, I mean getting some wise guy to have you take care of some dirty business, just like regular missions go.

Also it would be great to have a truly branching storyline. For instance, in the middle of the mission for the Italians I get a phone call from the Yakuza to join them. If I accept, I get some Yakuza to give me new missions, leading to a whole new storyline with more guys to give me missions; if I reject, I stay with the Italians and get yet another set of missions, and never even be able to get to those Yakuza missions. This type of gameplay would greatly boost the game's replay value.

And having a mission where you have to break out of prison would be fun too. What were R* thinking when they didn't make an Alcatraz in SA, from which you should escape in some mission?Would've been a great way to get to the desert - the entire San Fierro police force is searching for you down every street, so you're forced to swim over to the Las Venturas side and stay on the lowdown in the desert for a few missions.

m_richy66
04-05-2007, 12:00 AM
Use phones in the game. Like to order pizza or somthing? Or do a prank to 911?

jc112587
04-05-2007, 12:07 AM
i wanna see...
1. ragdoll physics
2. realistic weather
3. more vehicles
4. huge play area
5. realistic seasons
6. realistic A.I.
7. free form aiming
8. more weapons
9. destructable environment
10. ability to go into buildings

Ian
04-05-2007, 03:35 AM
Wouldn't it be great if you had the option of inviting friends into your game via multiplayer to helpy you out with missions or just get a chase from the police.


This would be great. Hanging out in the same car, one drives and the other shoots. Whole new level of fun can be come up with.. just imagine you're out shooting at the police and your friend drives like an idiot - just like that mission in SA (I forgot the name).

Heck, a person could just join the Lan game at any one time and go anywhere he likes or completes his own mission without actually meeting up with the other player, unless he asks to meet up to do something.

jammsbro
04-05-2007, 05:45 AM
what about some underground areas? has any of the GTA series has underground missions?

ivar87
04-05-2007, 07:24 AM
They're doing it off of NYC, and I guess the metro system should be in too. Atleast part of it (San An had some, but it was pretty low quality stuff.) Underground traindepos and stuff like that. Filled with graffiti and some bums.

comics22
04-05-2007, 12:54 PM
yea if they accualy implement a train tracks i would hope they make realistic trains. biggest problem with SA is that aparently trains dont have horns... that and i wish you could switch the cars around, switch tracks, have other AI trains movign about while your driving one.

onearmdriver
04-05-2007, 05:01 PM
GTA IV map I assume wll be twice as big as san andreas, rockstar is just showing just nyc ala liberty city
but I think its the whole entire state of new york..plus I saw a ferry boat that goes to Hoboken, NJ
in the trailer..nyc city has burroughs to discover bronx,brooklyn they showed the brooklyn bridge
already, Queens,Harlem.. IN Gta III there was stauton island which in real life its staten Island NY,
im sure stauton island will be in gta IV... also Long island will be a huge trip if rockstar includes it in gta
IV. Long island is known for beaches yahts,boats,jet skis....

There should be no gun shops in GTa IV for realism, instead there are Gun dealers that hang out
around your safe house for anyone who watch the movie taxi driver a gun dealer sells him firearms
have the weopan ammo stash at where your safe house..

As for clothes keep it simple, The protaganist to me looks like a cold blooded killer...
leather car coats, silk suits,a duster coat etc...

weopens modify I agree, this where gun dealers come in... A different gun dealler you see
sells you lazer beam scope for your 9's...in later missions a task at hand you buy silencers for your uzi's.
c4's where you can set the timer to like 30 seconds or 10 seconds to explode... tazer's,cattle prods
later missions

BlackSilver65
04-05-2007, 11:12 PM
First thing's first, please dont "flame" me because of my opinoins, but i would appreciate your opinions as well

Hers some things i think GTA4 should contain and if some of these things were brougt back in LCS or VCS or have been confirmed im sorry since i havnt played either of the Stories games or read much about 4

Police-
For the love of god fix the police!!! Im sick of evading police so fast or being shot in the head for punching a hooker eh? There are a few forums about this that state my opinions perfectly so i'll just leave this one short

Gangs-
I think you should be able to create/join any gang you please and slowly work your way up from a little 4 member hood gang to a city wide huge gang controlling every movment. Every now and then a new random gang could rise and and start taking over, leaveing for some challange and what not :-) Maybe as you grow small gangs will join up with you as you go along! tell me that wouldnt be amazing?

Airplanes-
Im not sure if this returned in LCS or VCS, I miss the airplanes going in and out of the airport like in GTA 3, Maybe people getting on and off the planes. People should actually do things instead of just walking around aimlessly.

SKINS-
FIX THE DAMN FINGERS PLEASE

Cars-
Im looking forward to some new cars, bette crash modeling. It'd be great with better crashes.

Fire-
Better fire/smoke effects please

Physics-
Ragdoll physics wiith the abilty to transport bodies by draging/tunk of your car. That'd be great, Droping a dead NPC of a cliff like Mt Chilliad, try and tell me that wouldnt be great.

Guns-
More guns. better detail.

Real Clothes-
This isnt somthing i nessicarly WANT, but it'd be pretty cool to be sporting a Element Hoodie or some Ecko shoes wouldnt it?

Jobs-
More odd jobs! maybe some side stories?

Enviroment-
More real nature, birds, maybe deer like in oblivoin. More tree's n grass, make nature acutally intersting, althought im sure this wont run that well due to GTA 4's City based location. Make streets feel alive by adding people that acutally have real conversatoins instead of the screwed up ones from San An. Make the night feel somewhat scary.

Water-
Water is somthing i always judge a game by. and from screenshots i've seen their doing an amazing job with water.

Story-
Longer Story, More depth, more references to previous GTA games, perhaps bring CJ in to hang out for awile lol.

Improved AI-
Improve the AI, if you shoot someon in broad daylight, have people run/freak out. call the cops, like in The Warriors. If you were seen looting or attackign someone, people would run to a payphone and call the poilice

In Car View-
I want to see some dashboard!

View Distance-
Increase it, that would be pretty nice :-)

Weather Effets-
San An had horrible rain effects. I'd like to see some realstic looking rain, maybe getting your clothes wet.

Thats all for now, if i think of anything else ill add it. Sorry if its kinda lame. im tired/excited/bored

Add some of you own if you like. youse my style though so its clear that your adding and not just oppsoing or agreeing with an opinion

Main Idea-
Explain

vic-firth
04-06-2007, 06:16 AM
I think a living breathing city is a must! The previous games lacked that kinda buzz that cities generate. I'd also like more than one city to feature in the game. :D

dannybooy
04-06-2007, 09:38 PM
i'd like to see dustructab;e enviroment. for example, if you drive your car into a building the building will have some sort of damage and more realistic damges to the car. and when the crash is done construction crew comes in and fixes it. then you can kill them :smash: also ive wanting to have mother nature disasters ex: tonadoes, hurricanes etc. oh and one more thing. what would be cool if you can actually see the dashboard and speedometer and actually have gas for once.

Ian
04-06-2007, 09:55 PM
Well, destructible environment is one thing, but I don't want them too desctructive. Like those stupid trees in SA where they topple over at the slightest glance by your car. I think objects should be more realistic. You can't simply run over traffic lights, street lights, poles or fire hydrants (or trees). It should have an effect where you richochet your car off and bending the pole/lights/tree depending on how hard you hit it. Only the hardest of blows will bring the object down.

-- the funny thing is that you do the same with pedestrians they will slow you down more than a streetlight.

monkio
04-06-2007, 10:52 PM
I think objects should be more realistic. You can't simply run over traffic lights, street lights, poles or fire hydrants (or trees).

I understand that it adds to the authenticity, but personally I believe it slows down the game, I hate those driving games where you finally get going at a decent speed and when you hit a pole you stop dead to zero. It just slows down the game

Ian
04-06-2007, 10:55 PM
I understand that it adds to the authenticity, but personally I believe it slows down the game, I hate those driving games where you finally get going at a decent speed and when you hit a pole you stop dead to zero. It just slows down the game

Yeah, that's why there needs to be some authenticity to it. If you hit a fire hydrant at speed, you'll definitely break the fire hydrant, and it should also send you spinning or at least whack you off course and you should try to avoid it.

I too hate 'too solid' objects in driving games, that's why is has to break but not like it's made out of cardboard.

atmj6430
04-08-2007, 08:57 AM
i want all the panty waist do gooders to let my 41 year old ass ride what and when i want to.....im old enough to drink my coffee black,smoke cigarettes,and get drunk once in a while.....i want all the things i love about gta period..........R i mite Go on a rampage.....El peligroso.

Terminator-UK
04-08-2007, 09:47 AM
When buying guns, the shopkeeper will place an empty gun on the counter for you to pickup.
You can then pick the gun up and view the info on the gun in the menu. If you don't like the gun, you place it back on the table and the shopkeeper places it back under the counter. If you want the gun, you press a button to pay for it. But, if you move away from the counter while still holding the gun unpaid for, the shopkeeper will sound an alarm and start shooting at you.

Buying ammo will be another feature in the gun shop.

Scotty
04-11-2007, 09:36 AM
-More realistic robberies, in GTAVC you could point your gun at the dude at the till and money would keep appearing until the cops arrived or you shot him, but in SA they would just stand there with there hands up and not give any money. I want to see them empty the till on the counter for you, or grab a baseball bat under the table and have a go at you.
-Custom gangs, you could alter the appearance of the gang members, what guns they use etc.
-More gangs controlling different areas. Only about 5 gangs in the whole of SA?
-Better gun models and sounds. The pistol feels like a toy in SA imo.
-Better police, if you've just beat the crap out of a cop in front of another cop, they're not gonna jog after you and with their bat, stop and swing at you every time they catch up. They're going to sprint after you and smash you in the back and make you eat dirt while they handcuff you.
-I hate how your in your car driving down a very quiet road then all of a sudden cars appear out of nowhere causing you to crash. Only seems to happen in SA most of the time for me. Maybe because I only have SA on PS2 and its harder to see.
-Ragdoll physics like blacksilver said, hitting some guy on the pavement in your car and seeing him flip over your roof would be pretty cool, and the ability to put bodys in the boot of the car.
-Car damage, if I punch a car door once, it most likely will not smash the window and leave a huge dent in the metal. If I drive into another car head on at 100mph, the front of the car is not going to have a little dent in the front of it with at most the bonnet falling off. If I jump off a 10 story building and land on a taxi, its not going to be undamaged.
- If I burgle someones house, and I run inside, the cops are not going to know straight away and be there in 10 seconds, that person sleeping is going to have to pick up the phone and call for help first. XD

Thats all for now. :D

raider1986
04-12-2007, 12:12 AM
heres what i'd like to see in gta4 if you have already read it somewhere else here it is again

you know every free roam game that has came out after gta3 has copied the series and some havent done a pretty bad job at it (saints row) and others, now dont get me wrong gta rules this kind of genre but we could use some of there ideas why not they took a shit load from gta so for example.

Cops/Prison
everyones saying it yes better A.I. for the cops if you do a crime and thier after you and you lose them then there should be a system like in N.F.S. : most wanted where theres a cooling down period after that they cant find you and all you have to do to not get spotted agin is do stuff like i.e. change clothes,haircut or change your car if your in one, now if you caught then id think it would be tight if it went to a cutsence and you could skip it if you want , you see the cops putting the handcuffs on you and throwing you in the back of the car and almost eveytime would be different like maybe when your in the car your trying to kick the windows or something like that, or if the crime was really seruios you could see a brunch of swat vans and cop cars with roadblocks and news reporters all around you and your face is all blacked out like your on t.v. and then after that u get sent to jail again you would be able to skip this if you want but you wouldnt learn a skill and by that i mean like in the movie (BLOW) he went to jail with one skill came out with another skill after that in there you could learn and get contacts for drugs dealings or weapon sumggling or anything you might think of to do in orgizined crime.

Cars
id like the cars to be like the cars in mindnight club and need for speed the new ones in that i mean have varations to the cars speed, handling and more better driving like in the racing games but also be able to pimp your car out any car it shouldnt matter a hugh selections of everything from rims to body kits to different types of engines and headers all that good o stuff have stock cars you can make in to soup ars be able to make a car from the ground up like go in to a garage or maybe a junk yard and build your car from the ground up, and in your garages at your houes evey car you put in there it should be saved and when you want it you just go look for it but im also talking about lowriders too have brunch of selections for them to from suspentions to the batteries also be able to pimp the in side too from raidos to T.V.s ,Dvds Gameconsles,woofers and amps and it should make the car sound better in real life too, the design of the insides everything and you can have car show in the came and you could enter and have it jugded by people and if they like it u when money and u can enter lowriders to do the dances and all that stuff to win money but im talking about like lowrider the game but way better, bikes,suvs,vans,compacts,sports cars,exrotics,imports, everthing should be able to modd and soup up. now though when your driving i think you should be able to shoot all around the car not just on the sides come on its a game. make it realistic if you crash then where ever you got it thats the spot that should be messed up and if you shoot at a car you should leave bullet hole where you shot at the car. you should be able to buy a car at the dealerships like theres a cutsence where these a guy or girl trying to sell you a car. and you should be able to open the hood or the trunks to the cars and you could put stuff in there like a body after you killed them

Customization
maybe not this gta maybe the next one id like to be able to make the main guy the way i want him t look not all stupid lookin but the way id like him to look like rockstar could have different backgrounds like white, black,latino,asin,somoan etc. and when you pick whatever background you play that storyline so like if you pick latino you play his storyline and it works to our benefit so when were done with that storyline we could pick a different background and play his story and they all could be different. after so many gtas we should be able to customize our house sort of like the sims just to make you feel more in control i mean its our house we should choose how it looks like we should even be able to make a house just have a endless amount of selction to choose from then you could choose room from room make it like a mansion youd see in the game scarface.

Weapons
id love to see a hugh amonut of weapons from very old to furture lookin ones and being able to buy upgrades for them etc scopes lasersight extra mags colors of the gun gold,chrome,black

Story
i dont know if rockstar is going for the kingpin theme but i hope they are you could do a lot of things to make you feel like youre a boss for example hire body guards that follow you eveywhere you go if your in a car there behind you in black suvs. if someone starts shooting at you they attack them and if they die another one takes thier place. you colud get hire a guy to become your arms dealer like in scarface then there in your trunk in your car. you could become a kingpin in all underground crime Racing, drug dealer, underground club fighting like in Def Jam fight for NY. ok im just gonna list all the stuff that should be in it so i could go now
smoking and drinking the games already rated for adults so whats so wrong with it
the gym -id like to get the guy really buff and ripped i think that looks tight
clothes -hey he should be able to looke really tight etc shades,watches,chains,fitted suits , like icon

Unleaded808
04-12-2007, 12:46 AM
Ever wanted better control of your character (ex.) rather than just squat. for example you try to sit on a bench and you have to jump on the bench and squat to make like your sitting down. You know better physics to actually lay your ass on the bench, sit down , eat, cruise, call some homies while your sitting down, etc. etc. not just a squat like you taking a dump on the sidewalk. be able to interact with the enviroment.

Unleaded808
04-12-2007, 12:55 AM
ohh yeh and actually a autometer on the cars would be sweet. don't take out the ho's. More QUANTITY of land is good, but to actually have more QUALITY in being able to interact with the land more is better, rather than just a building on the side and look at it.
hope all the custom things you can do to your character wont be gone (ex. hair cut, tattoo's clothes)

other than that whatever all you guys said, IV would be perfect.

Phil
04-12-2007, 01:19 AM
One of the things im really really really hoping will be included in this version, is proper automatic transmissions!

With the torque converter and such simulated properly, not just the sounds. Im alot into crusing around in gta's and one thing that annoys me is that when im crusing along at 30mph, depending on the car, its sometimes stuck in 2gear at 6000rpm. IF, they had simulated proper auto's the car would change to a higher gear, just like it does IRL!

A kickdown would be great aswell!

Mighty D.R.
04-12-2007, 02:59 AM
Have it so you can lose the police. In past GTAs if you have say 2 stars and get far away from the cops they still know exactly where you are. It would be good if you could lose them, but they still are looking out for someone with your description.

.:nemesis:.
04-12-2007, 03:59 AM
Unleaded808 please dont double post, use the http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/images/gta/buttons/ edit.gif feature in your last post.

Scotty
04-12-2007, 08:39 AM
Hey I just had a cool idea...

Build your own hideout? :D

There could be small blocks of land somewhere in the game that are used for your own customized hideouts, you could have to pay for the parts to build it like $500 per meter of wall, $20,000 for another floor, furniture etc. $15000 for machine guns to run to when you have the SWAT storming your hideout. Cameras watching the outside. And people would try to rob you or kill you inside your hideout every now and then. And you could make traps for unwanted visitors (thinking of Saw :P).
That'd kick ass.

comics22
04-12-2007, 09:38 PM
lol i can see that getting old real fast...

but like mentione dnumerous times they need to desperately fix the cops...you cant out run them they keep spawning and spawning and spawning! same with the ever annoying helicopter!

Phil
04-18-2007, 01:22 PM
Cars
id like the cars to be like the cars in mindnight club and need for speed the new ones in that i mean have varations to the cars speed, handling and more better driving like in the racing games but also be able to pimp your car out any car it shouldnt matter a hugh selections of everything from rims to body kits to different types of engines and headers all that good o stuff have stock cars you can make in to soup ars be able to make a car from the ground up like go in to a garage or maybe a junk yard and build your car from the ground up, and in your garages at your houes evey car you put in there it should be saved and when you want it you just go look for it but im also talking about lowriders too have brunch of selections for them to from suspentions to the batteries also be able to pimp the in side too from raidos to T.V.s ,Dvds Gameconsles,woofers and amps and it should make the car sound better in real life too, the design of the insides everything and you can have car show in the came and you could enter and have it jugded by people and if they like it u when money and u can enter lowriders to do the dances and all that stuff to win money but im talking about like lowrider the game but way better, bikes,suvs,vans,compacts,sports cars,exrotics,imports, everthing should be able to modd and soup up. now though when your driving i think you should be able to shoot all around the car not just on the sides come on its a game. make it realistic if you crash then where ever you got it thats the spot that should be messed up and if you shoot at a car you should leave bullet hole where you shot at the car. you should be able to buy a car at the dealerships like theres a cutsence where these a guy or girl trying to sell you a car. and you should be able to open the hood or the trunks to the cars and you could put stuff in there like a body after you killed them

I couldn't disagree more.. if you want bodykits and new headers go play NFS... dont mix these two games together!


however.. the whole dealership buying idea is more than welcome! If your cars position is saved no matter what you do, i'd love to see "buying" my own car, and using it over and over again! Would add alot to the realism! If you even could lock the doors or have a remote lock installed, you'd just press (x) key combination and "woiip woiip" your car is lock/unlocked! :D

Blazer
04-19-2007, 07:51 PM
i want the car crusher from GTA2 back! That thing was awesome.

Lettermaniac
04-20-2007, 12:52 AM
'Twas in GTA III too. It'd be great if it returned, it was really fun.

Ian
04-20-2007, 02:08 AM
Don't know if anyone has posted this before, but :

- Impromptu car races.

If you're going around town and you spot a car you can race him on the spot by honking him or with the high lights and get money alá Need For Speed.

RubberDuck
04-20-2007, 05:57 AM
Don't know if anyone has posted this before, but :

- Impromptu car races.

If you're going around town and you spot a car you can race him on the spot by honking him or with the high lights and get money alá Need For Speed.


Or an area of the city where all the guys with riced cars hang out and you can drive in there and challange one to a race.

Also, better sounds. I'm sure plenty people have said this already, but it was one of the worst aspects of San An. Guns, cars, motorbike, even the voices of peds, sounded like shit. We need better sounds!

WiM
04-20-2007, 06:42 AM
Indeed, I agree with a lot of people here: the better automatic transmission, and the sounds...Those were horrible. Like in SA: when you were driving a sabre or a stallion, instead of the awesome 5 liter V8 sound, you had the sound of a 60yr old car. That's not realistic.

I just LOVE to sometimes just drive around in the city, even halfly following the rules...Then I also want to keep my car in this undamaged stage, but every 30 seconds there's this morron who drives insane, crashes into your car, etc... that is NOT good. I really would like some REALISTIC traffic.

Also, I think it should remain GTA, don't get games like NFS involved in it. I agree, the cop system now is lame, there should be a better AI, but they should not copy NFS in any way.
I think there should be skills, as in SA, but there shouldn't be a lot, it's still a GTA game, it's not an RPG, like I had the feeling in SA...

RubberDuck
04-20-2007, 06:47 AM
Also, I think it should remain GTA, don't get games like NFS involved in it. I agree, the cop system now is lame, there should be a better AI, but they should not copy NFS in any way.


I don't know how many times i've said this, but Rockstar should take a look at the cops AI in Mafia.

Also, there were levels of wanted-ness. If you were speeding, you may be given a speeding ticket.

If you chose not to pull over for your ticket, they would decide to arrest you instead.

If you pulled a gun on them, they would do the same.

But, heres the good part. You could literally fool the cops, by getting far enough ahead and getting out of your vehicle and into another. Somehow in GTA the cops know who you are, whatever car you're driving.

Phil
04-20-2007, 03:54 PM
im sure this and alot of other things will be changed, towards a more realistic GTA

will99
04-20-2007, 03:56 PM
Have any of you played "New Vice city 2004"? I gave a load of you guys the mod in the "GTA series" forum. Because you can get petrol. :shock: What do you guys think about havin' petrol in GTA IV?

Phil
04-20-2007, 04:16 PM
plain awesome! i'd love it! even though some go nuts when this is brought up, its not like you have to fill up every 2 miles (unless you're driving the maibatsui, ofcause) and it would just be plain cool to have this little guage on the side of the HUD when you enter a vehicle! :D

Blazer
04-20-2007, 05:14 PM
'Twas in GTA III too. It'd be great if it returned, it was really fun.

in GTA3 I dont think you got money (if you did it was like a couple dollars) for crushing the car... it wasnt really fun. You couldnt climb up and watch it get crushed, you couldnt do really anything with it tbh. It was booooring. GTA2 you could get money, guns, if it was a police car, a police bribe, and gun i think, and ambulance was ++ health, etc. It was funner to steal different types of cars and see what you could get out of them, besides a chunk of money

Lettermaniac
04-20-2007, 07:47 PM
It'd be fun if a small, square, compacted version of the vehicle came out the other end :P A good way to make small cash.

Ian
04-22-2007, 02:52 AM
Just thought of something. If they are going to make police trying to catch you for overspeeding or driving on the wrong lane or something like that, then there needs to be a toggle button between pursuit / speeding driving and cruising.

Reason being it's hard to 'just cruise' in GTA.

Also, I think it should remain GTA, don't get games like NFS involved in it.

Doesn't need to be 100% like NFS, just the racing system. After all, you do get racing in GTA in all series. I'd like to start races whenever I like instead of having to do them through missions or go to certain locations with predtermined courses.

will99
04-22-2007, 04:38 AM
yeah, I agree, the could have crazy burnout races. :D

Phil
04-22-2007, 04:46 AM
guys... go play Test Drive Unlimited!!! GTA is not a racing game, and should never be!

will99
04-22-2007, 04:48 AM
I know but races in GTA should be more than just driving through checkpoints.

Ian
04-24-2007, 01:41 AM
GTA is not a racing game, and should never be!

So why does all the GTA series have racing in them?

WiM
04-24-2007, 04:43 AM
I don't know how many times i've said this, but Rockstar should take a look at the cops AI in Mafia.

Also, there were levels of wanted-ness. If you were speeding, you may be given a speeding ticket.

If you chose not to pull over for your ticket, they would decide to arrest you instead.

If you pulled a gun on them, they would do the same.

But, heres the good part. You could literally fool the cops, by getting far enough ahead and getting out of your vehicle and into another. Somehow in GTA the cops know who you are, whatever car you're driving.

There, I agree with you. I always thought MAFIA was one of the best games I ever played. And, even for a game from 2002, the graphics were great!
About the gameplay, Indeed, you could escape from the cops if you've done something small, but if you shoot, they get angry.

To Ian: That's just a small part of GTA, it's not a race game. You can do other things than racing.

Ian
04-24-2007, 10:52 AM
I'm not trying to offend anyone here, but what's wrong with improving racing as a wishlist? I know it's a small part of the game, but nevertheless I would like some improvements there!

If I really wanted a racing game I really would go get a proper racing sim / game, but in this case why not go racing with stolen vehicles + the famous GTA carnage / joyride to go with it? I'm not saying to turn it into NFS - I'd just want GTA with some impromptu racing as something to do in game, that's all. The way you put it, it sounds like it's a bad thing.

WiM
04-24-2007, 01:01 PM
OOH, I see your point...But I think they should improve driving rather than trying to improve the racing? As in SA, I had the feeling the cars had...less grip. when you took a corner, almost every time you had oversteer. I'd rather have realistic driving.

scorged
04-24-2007, 01:16 PM
Does anyone think they will include a custom track radio station? because I'd love to see it. Also so far i haven't seen any PS3 titles that have custom tracks, are they not going to use it in any of their games?

will99
04-24-2007, 01:43 PM
I hope they do because it is great fun listening to your own music. ;) I only wish it was more radio station like with the host saying..."This is a new song that has just come in" then playing the song like it was made by the game. What do you think?

scorged
04-24-2007, 02:10 PM
I really don't that that would work out. hahaha but that would be pretty cool.

FG
04-24-2007, 08:10 PM
I wish, I hope , that in IV; The bldg's an tree's, rock's, cliff facing's, lite polls, all the known object's in the world, or not magnetized to your ride; knowing that you, clearly steered your vehicle away from it, without a doubt.

Any one ever notice this strange mystical feature of GTA game's ? :confused:

Ian
04-24-2007, 09:30 PM
Any one ever notice this strange mystical feature of GTA game's ?

Yeah. I recall in GTA1, if you drive in the park, which only has a few trees, you're bound to hit it, no matter what. :rolleyes:

WiM
04-25-2007, 02:37 AM
I would love to see the M-60 from Vice City again, only now, it would be cool if you were able to get on the grond and like snipe ^^

will99
04-28-2007, 03:54 PM
Oh and what about diferent looking cops, not all different but some with diferent faces and hair? what about that? :D Oh and cars with lockable doors. ;) has that already been wished?

scorged
04-28-2007, 04:12 PM
Oh and what about diferent looking cops, not all different but some with diferent faces and hair? what about that?
Its always bugged me that they were all the same...

will99
04-28-2007, 04:22 PM
yeah, and when you walk down a r'd with four of the same people in the same clothes, lol! :laugh:

FireFox2
04-28-2007, 04:35 PM
yeah, and when you walk down a r'd with four of the same people in the same clothes, lol! :laugh:

Yes an the talk with the cloned look a like's w'ere sucky; aswell:)

will99
04-28-2007, 04:37 PM
Yeah, but it is funny but makes it look annoy some times. PLUS over exagerated amounts of cops roam the streets.

Tendercrisp
04-28-2007, 06:00 PM
So, the recent OPM issue said that Niko was observed shoving peds out of his way.

There could be two levels of fighting, brawling and just bickering and harrasing people. Imagine how cool it would be if peds reacted in 10 different ways from just shoving them. They could fall back and trip if they're small, lean back a little if they're bulked out, etc. That's just their physical reaction too! Imagine how they would react to this in terms of AI. They could flip you off, curse at you, insult you, kick you in the nuts, spit on you, run away, punch you, slap you, scratch you, pull the cig out of their mouth and stick it in your eye, pull out a knife and stab you, take that bottle of booze they were drinking out of and break it over your head, the possibilities are endless!

And then, there's the things you could do to peds. You could get them in a chokehold and interrogate them, or use them as a human sheild, slit their throats, break their necks, lift them up and slam their backs down on the concrete. I'm getting hyped for this game just thinking about this stuff.

SmackThis86
04-28-2007, 08:50 PM
2 things I'd like this game to address.

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1. To actually include convertibles that convert rather then cars without roofs. They could incorporate the use of the right analog stick (like activating vigilante missions) making it retract the roof.

2. The ability to lock your doors. So when being chased by cops they would smash your window in and pull you out. It would make getting away a hell of a lot more fun if you drove off with the cop hanging halfway out of your window.

.:nemesis:.
04-28-2007, 08:56 PM
1. To actually include convertibles that convert rather then cars without roofs. They could incorporate the use of the right analog stick (like activating vigilante missions) making it retract the roof.

2. The ability to lock your doors. So when being chased by cops they would smash your window in and pull you out. It would make getting away a hell of a lot more fun if you drove off with the cop hanging halfway out of your window.
1 : Yeah that would be awesome in first person view to see the roof opening and closing.

2 : Or the cops jumping on the bonnet and hanging on to the wipers or hanging on to the back bumper.

;)

SmackThis86
04-28-2007, 09:38 PM
lol I can picture that second one vivdly. Dragging cops at the end of your car FTW!

Tendercrisp
04-28-2007, 09:44 PM
It'd be cool if you could use your cell phone to call up radio stations and request one of the songs on the playlist, so you won't have to wait through the whole cycle to here the song you want to hear.

Lettermaniac
04-28-2007, 09:48 PM
1. To actually include convertibles that convert rather then cars without roofs. They could incorporate the use of the right analog stick (like activating vigilante missions) making it retract the roof.

2. The ability to lock your doors. So when being chased by cops they would smash your window in and pull you out. It would make getting away a hell of a lot more fun if you drove off with the cop hanging halfway out of your window.

Yes, I've always wanted the convertible feature, and what you said about flailing cops hanging on to your door could well be included.

And TC, that's a great, realistic idea. Also being able to purchase songs to play on your phone/MP3 player.

Mighty D.R.
04-29-2007, 02:12 AM
Busy airports

FG
04-29-2007, 02:19 AM
Yes, I've always wanted the convertible feature, and what you said about flailing cops hanging on to your door could well be included.

And TC, that's a great, realistic idea. Also being able to purchase songs to play on your phone/MP3 player.

Now that's what I'm talking about myself; if we get this, it'll be awesome:)

@MDR , I hope you get your wish aswell.

will99
04-29-2007, 03:29 AM
Yeah, purchesing song is great. You could do that in "True Crime: NYC" and in GTA IV it will be awesome. ;)
I also like the cops hanging off your door thing to. ;) GREAT IDEAS!
Oh and If he can swim, I bet his is black. (Not being racist) I mean, Claud and Tommy where white and they can't swim, and so was Toni, he was white and he can't swim. CJ and Vic are black and they can swim. :confused: Anyone noticed that patern?

FG
04-29-2007, 04:26 AM
@ will... I think Niko is of European decent; however it don't matter anyway's, I think swiming could be in IV; maybe swiming pool's, or a flight to clean clear water's; cause people in NYC ( Liberty City ) don't swim much in the merky water's around there, except maybe at a time of a task, you w'ere requried to do so. Like I know diver's go into those water's; so maybe Niko could get a mission/or job/ or sideline activity as a professional diver; Russian's are well known for having great diving expertize...so who know's R*s calling the shot's...I hope there is a diver's actitvy in IV that would be shit:)

EDIT # 2 Does any one know if Niko; has Russian Military exprience, that would be cool,to enhance his bad ass persona:)

will99
04-29-2007, 05:01 AM
Yeah, and you can go to the military base and get milrtary soldiers to follow you around huh?

FG
04-29-2007, 05:08 AM
Well you got someting there will, Vic Vance staarted out in the Army; but he did not have soldier's follow him around all the time; Niko would probably not have a connection to US military; but who know's if he had known member's of other Armed service's. it's possible he may have contact's with other's from the military...good thougt, that could thicken the plot; for a cool story.:)

will99
04-29-2007, 05:27 AM
Thanx, 'cos in VC in heard at 100% you get body guards to follow you around. Plus in IV they could always get in the same tank as you a man the turret huh?

FG
04-29-2007, 05:32 AM
Damn Will... w'ere you get the good idea's; you got my punny brain beat. You need a job at R* writting the story line. Dang good plot idea,lol.:)

will99
04-29-2007, 05:36 AM
Thanx mate! :D I wish I could get a job at R* lol! But I am barely allowed GTA. :(

FG
04-29-2007, 05:39 AM
Look at this way; you got time to hone your skill, then write the plot/story line for GTA V or whatever they call the next one...haha maybe even GTA six.

I wish they will have sky diving in GTAIV, more improve over SA tho. wada you think?:)

will99
04-29-2007, 05:41 AM
Now your getting them. :D Yeah, sky diving like the game Just cause? and the ability to shoot in mid air when sky diving huh? :)

FG
04-29-2007, 05:51 AM
I wish if they have sky diving a gain it's like the ones that have the powered fan that make's the chute go like an ultra lite plane; then shoot the shit outa the bad guy's an land on top of the drug deall's high rise apt. an steal his million's :laugh:

will99
04-29-2007, 06:24 AM
ha ha, yeah! I hope they have sky diving. :)

.:nemesis:.
04-29-2007, 07:41 AM
Thanx, 'cos in VC in heard at 100% you get body guards to follow you around. Plus in IV they could always get in the same tank as you a man the turret huh?
I also hope the turret can be pointed in any direction, and not follow the way the tank is facing, hated that feature in SA.

FireFox2
04-29-2007, 07:51 AM
I also hope the turret can be pointed in any direction, and not follow the way the tank is facing, hated that feature in SA.
@will..that's funny.lol.

@ CM...Man you can say that again, I would like to hear what a tanker guy in real life would say about that turret:)

@CM ...omg I bet I know <who put you up to it. It is so damn cute; thank's a bunch. I only had a hint of this nice surprize. urn:angel:

Edit : My wish would be a co- protagonist, ( Niko's squezze) only I don't know how it would work. Maybe you expert's could figure it out for me...huh.Even if the poor thing just came along on mission's; but had a co-star place in the storyline. ...what do you think?

FG
04-29-2007, 09:54 AM
My true wish is Niko would be a bad ass an kick butt on, drug dealer's,crook's,corrupt offical's,an he show's respect for the man on the street. Once the storyline start's to get to the end; he would then be respected in Liberty City. All this done with a brand new storyline we have never wittnessed before. Something new, new player's; a few cameo's would be ok.

ZCAB
04-30-2007, 09:01 AM
- A car lock system. Car locks available at every auto shop, for different prices and strengths. Cars that have them will automatically lock when left and unlock when you get back in. Cars can be left at any place and returned to at any moment (without 'disappearing' like in earlier games), unless they're stolen. Cars that are cheap, in bad state or have good locks have less chance of being stolen, though only putting them in your safehouse garages can fully guarantee they're safe. Optional tracker for those who can't remember where they put their ride. Locks do not work when player is in car, so they can't keep the cops from dragging your criminal ass out of there.

- Customisable weapons. Functional changes like scopes, silencers, laser sights, enlarged magazines, alternative ammo types, etc. Also aesthetical changes, like painting your assault rifle's woodwork, goldplating your magnum, or covering your Desert Eagle's grip with tiger skin. Players should be able to mark any gun as 'owned' for its retail price, after which it is available in all safehouses at all times. Ammo should be bought seperately, since 'owned' weapons you pick up from your safehouses will not contain ammo.

will99
05-02-2007, 01:31 PM
I also hope the turret can be pointed in any direction, and not follow the way the tank is facing, hated that feature in SA.
Could the turret in SA only face forwards? I hope you can turn the turret up in IV and shoot down helicopters. ;) That would be cool. :D

Ian
05-02-2007, 09:16 PM
Don't you turn the turret with the mouse? (on PC at least)

Lettermaniac
05-03-2007, 12:49 AM
I think it's the numpad 4 & 6 keys on VC PC.

@ ZCab, I really like the idea of locking your own car. Realistic and helpful.

FG
05-03-2007, 03:10 AM
I think it's the numpad 4 & 6 keys on VC PC.

@ ZCab, I really like the idea of locking your own car. Realistic and helpful.

agree, would like to use the trunk aswell.

will99
05-03-2007, 10:24 AM
I think it's the numpad 4 & 6 keys on VC PC.

@ ZCab, I really like the idea of locking your own car. Realistic and helpful.
That's how you do it....oooohhhh...thnaks for that. :D

billyboy_999
05-03-2007, 03:11 PM
tbh I liked the SA tank, since it was so much easier to aim, but the view would pan forward again if you didn't move the mouse for a few seconds. And you could aim up and down, shoot helis down... I just hope they improve on that in IV.

will99
05-03-2007, 03:13 PM
The Mercinaries game for PS2 tank is the best at aiming, And parallel Lines (Driver 4) because it has a lock - on aim. ;)

The_Patient
05-04-2007, 09:25 AM
My GTAIV Wish listtt:
most of these are obvious onjes anyway. =/

- Customisable HQ/ Home.
- A wider array of cars/bikes etc.
- Animals, woop.
- Lots of pretty weather.
- More spoken word radio stations, along the lines of VCPR
- Next Gen Phsyics, obviously.
- Working televisions, computers, household appliances etc. Like in the PS3 'Home' thingy.

That'll Do.

will99
05-04-2007, 10:29 AM
Yeah, You can phone the Pizza Store and the come to your customized house and you eat it and regain health, If you do it toooooo much without sprinting you will get fat...How about that? :D

Lettermaniac
05-04-2007, 07:10 PM
Pizza Delivery service, yeah, actually sounds quite good. Seeing Pizza Boys riding the Pizza Boy bikes around would be nice.

maddmike
05-04-2007, 08:10 PM
and get the pizza dilivered in the IV box, saw a thread about them somwere.

Smokeydogg7
05-04-2007, 08:15 PM
hopefully we will be able to take someone hostage and them take them to the top of the empire state building and push them off

tangomango
05-04-2007, 10:50 PM
I just want more freedom to do whatever, like in Saints Row.

will99
05-05-2007, 02:21 AM
Saints Row was about the size of VC, I want it to bigger as big or bigger than SA if possblel. :D

Lettermaniac
05-05-2007, 02:33 AM
Huh? We already know Liberty City will be just a bit smaller than San Andreas.

will99
05-05-2007, 02:36 AM
Yeah, but alot bigger than LCS in III and LCS right? I hope you can sky dive...I just do, and there better be motorbikes.

Lettermaniac
05-05-2007, 02:39 AM
Yeah it's definatley gonna be bigger than the old LC :P We've got 4/5 boroughs now rather than just 3 small islands.

will99
05-05-2007, 02:42 AM
YAY! VC that wasn't small, I hate when people say "Vice City sucks because it is small". :( Hay, it was bigger than LC anyway. :) I can't wait for IV, but I don't have, or really want a PS3 or 360 at the moment :(

FG
05-05-2007, 02:49 AM
ahh not to worry, imagine SA minus say Bayside. Now imagine IV about that size, full of detailed cityscape:)

That is a mighty big sandbox to romp in,lol.

will99
05-05-2007, 02:53 AM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, I can imagine that. :)

FG
05-05-2007, 02:55 AM
Yeah, we lost a bit,some say...but it's a R* sandbox full of goody's;huh?:)

will99
05-05-2007, 02:58 AM
Yep, correct, GTA IV is ganna be as pack of features as SA, or if not, GTA VC, set in a LARGER city with better graphics. :)

FG
05-05-2007, 03:00 AM
I'm hoping an wishing all this new detail will include really good off duty fun for ole Niko...huh?:)

will99
05-05-2007, 03:02 AM
Yeah, I know it is gonna be great, Oh and NO loading between Islands, huh?

Tyler
05-05-2007, 10:34 AM
Thats what ive heard. :)

will99
05-05-2007, 12:49 PM
Well, I hope it is true, don't you? Oh and if you get military or gangs to follow you, it would be cool if you could chose what weapon to give them huh?

bullyfan101
05-06-2007, 09:49 PM
steak has to be in the game

Pale2hall
05-06-2007, 09:54 PM
steak has to be in the game



Yes Stake FTW!!

ivar87
05-07-2007, 11:02 AM
The Honda Civic 2006.
Looks so awesome, kinda futuristic but tame.
Niceness inadi box.
Clover and that are the only cars I truly want to see.

WiM
05-07-2007, 01:54 PM
I heard about the new and improved admiral...I really want to see that.

I really want the carlock and the trunk usage (like in MAFIA, man that was awesome) and useful weaponmodding things. Someone said something about getting pizza delivered. I would love that feature too, among with other more realistic real life things, but I'm afraid it will take to much time...

Also: I heard a lot of people say they're disappointed in GTA IV. HOW THE HELL CAN YOU BE DISAPPOINTED IN AN UNFINISHED GAME?? You haven't seen ANYTHING yet!
People are nagging about features, MINOR features left out, but I am 10000% SURE R* will compensate that loss into an AWESOME gamingexperience

The_Patient
05-08-2007, 12:35 PM
Looks like we are asking for the most lifelike based Role Playing Game ever. Just with lots of violence and controversial humor :laugh:

WiM
05-08-2007, 01:19 PM
Well, I would love Life-like, but as I said: it would take too much time. I know eating (and other stuff) in SA weren't realistic, but admit: it didn't take much time.

I just thought of something else...you know, there's this game that owns bacause you can use plracticly EVERYTHING as a weapon: Dead Rising.
I hope you have a few slots where you can stock weapons, but you can use flowerpots, chairs from cafés, etc... as a weapon (like I said: everything)

Lettermaniac
05-08-2007, 10:40 PM
Well we've already seen a ped holding a 2x4, so it's a possibility.

WiM
05-09-2007, 04:26 AM
Indeed, now that you mention it...But no one knows if it actually is a weapon.

MisterBlanco
05-09-2007, 04:42 PM
Numoruno uno: Cars.. Rims.. More specific > Spinner Rims. Would be so nice to have Spinner Rims on your car. Make Niko a playa rolling in on a mission in a black escalade with spinners blasting g-unit music from car stereo. The inner gangsta of niko :smoke:

Deux: Why is it that the only way to get money from peds is to kill them? .. I would like to see Niko being able to Rob / maybe Mug? peds and get money. If Niko can get mugged, then why cant he mug? Get yo blade out and get riiach!!

tre: You ppl all want Niko to get drunk and have your screen get blurry and crap. Not me chico, i want Niko being able to buy drugs and use them. Example of this. Ped walks up to Niko at night and says Want Drugs? Just like SA, Y will respond Yes and N, vice versa. And when Niko uses the drugs he bought the sky turns purple and green..and he sees flying elephants and shit. :evil3: and hears everything in slowmotion. Addictions.. OverDoses.. those too

Thats my four dollars.. or 3 quaters? 2cents?:rappo:

Tendercrisp
05-10-2007, 07:19 PM
I want weapon sets to be limited, so i Can get a challenge. Ever play MPO? 4 weapons at a time is enough, and they should bring back weapon skills from San Andreas. Except have more to it then "poor, gangster, hitman". Have different categories for each weapon, Accuracy, recoil amount, ability to dual-weild, reload speed, and melee (How hard you pistol whip them etc.).

FG
05-10-2007, 07:28 PM
I want weapon sets to be limited, so i Can get a challenge. Ever play MPO? 4 weapons at a time is enough, and they should bring back weapon skills from San Andreas. Except have more to it then "poor, gangster, hitman". Have different categories for each weapon, Accuracy, recoil amount, ability to dual-weild, reload speed, and melee (How hard you pistol whip them etc.).

@TenderCrisp...same here. The SA just need's an update,it was at least on the right track.I've offten thought that myself:)

Mighty D.R.
05-10-2007, 11:09 PM
Not having to duel weild weapons if you reach that skill level

will99
05-11-2007, 07:22 AM
I hope you can have 2 katanas, 1 in each hand, that would be great!

Tendercrisp
05-12-2007, 06:58 PM
I hope you can have 2 katanas, 1 in each hand, that would be great!

Maybe they could have a primary/secondary weapon system. Pistol in one hand, grenade in the other, so you don't have to switch back and forth between weapons. Pistol and knife, Dual wield dildos, etc. Of course this could only work for one-handed weapons.

And they should also incorporate this with the wish I had in that last post. After all, who the hell can carry a rocket launcher, 2 assault rifles, a deagle, a bunch of satchel charges, and an uzi all at once without even having so much as a bulging pocket.

Another wish, if you're carrying heavy weapons, they should slow you down, even if you don't have them equipped, like an AK could be strapped onto your back, and your pistols could have their own holsters. And maybe the kind of clothes you're wearing should dictate how many weapons you can carry. Maybe you could go to special clothing stores to by bookbags, trenchcoats, gun holsters/straps, deep-pocketed pants, and other things to increase the number of weapons you can carry.

ivar87
05-13-2007, 05:24 AM
Maybe they could have a primary/secondary weapon system. Pistol in one hand, grenade in the other, so you don't have to switch back and forth between weapons. Pistol and knife, Dual wield dildos, etc. Of course this could only work for one-handed weapons.
Yes!

And they should also incorporate this with the wish I had in that last post. After all, who the hell can carry a rocket launcher, 2 assault rifles, a deagle, a bunch of satchel charges, and an uzi all at once without even having so much as a bulging pocket.

Another wish, if you're carrying heavy weapons, they should slow you down, even if you don't have them equipped, like an AK could be strapped onto your back, and your pistols could have their own holsters. And maybe the kind of clothes you're wearing should dictate how many weapons you can carry. Maybe you could go to special clothing stores to by bookbags, trenchcoats, gun holsters/straps, deep-pocketed pants, and other things to increase the number of weapons you can carry.
Oh please no. This is GTA we're talking about man.

will99
05-13-2007, 08:55 AM
@tendercrisp: GREAT IDEA! You have sumin' there. ;)

Havok
05-13-2007, 10:02 AM
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And they should also incorporate this with the wish I had in that last post. After all, who the hell can carry a rocket launcher, 2 assault rifles, a deagle, a bunch of satchel charges, and an uzi all at once without even having so much as a bulging pocket.

Another wish, if you're carrying heavy weapons, they should slow you down, even if you don't have them equipped, like an AK could be strapped onto your back, and your pistols could have their own holsters. And maybe the kind of clothes you're wearing should dictate how many weapons you can carry. Maybe you could go to special clothing stores to by bookbags, trenchcoats, gun holsters/straps, deep-pocketed pants, and other things to increase the number of weapons you can carry.

thats a good idea for realistic games but one of the joys in GTA is shooting at cops with a m16 and then turning around sharply and whipping out a rocketlauncher and blowing some cars away.
i do think it would be cool if you could strap things on to you, like in Mercenaries, but don't have it limit what you do.

Tendercrisp
05-13-2007, 10:20 AM
thats a good idea for realistic games but one of the joys in GTA is shooting at cops with a m16 and then turning around sharply and whipping out a rocketlauncher and blowing some cars away.
i do think it would be cool if you could strap things on to you, like in Mercenaries, but don't have it limit what you do.

But think about it, man. It would look so badass having Niko walk down the street with a Katana on his back, and two pistols at his waist.

Havok
05-13-2007, 10:46 AM
ya and i'm all for that idea, but i think if he had Katanas and pistols and a Rocket Launcher and was moving slower than a WWI tank, then that would suck

Jerome-
05-14-2007, 04:46 AM
Since this game is modelled after the boroughs of NY, I wanna see a Queensbridge housing projects look alike. Also, the Brooklyn Bridge, Yankees Stadium. Some of the cool landmarks around NY.

I'd also like more buildings to enter, too.

InfernusAaron
05-14-2007, 05:17 PM
I'd like for there to be special Tracer ammunition. LAZER BULLET RAVE!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracer_ammunition It would be fun to use at night, the only downside would be that it would give away your location.

will99
05-15-2007, 10:34 AM
Since this game is modelled after the boroughs of NY, I wanna see a Queensbridge housing projects look alike. Also, the Brooklyn Bridge, Yankees Stadium. Some of the cool landmarks around NY.

I'd also like more buildings to enter, too.
Yeah, TR: NYC did a good job on the city lay - out and I hope R* have been inspired to make it very detailed to. :)

Jamal
05-15-2007, 06:33 PM
I really wanna see realism..... PLEASE READ!!!

For example...

U walk down the street and u see a gunfight erput u see two (or 4-9) people shooting at eachother...a real shootout like some real shit...while this is goin on ppl are runnin glass is shattering and cars are zooming away (maybe Suspects of the shooting stealing cars to get way) and old boris over here kan intervene and he kan run or just look on...then within 40 seconds of shooting (suspects are trying to run also) Police come....They actually respond and if they see suspects they shoot at em ....the suspects try to escape and police give chase...ppl gettin areested or shot...and if they all got away before police can get there...then police put up the yellow tape and look around



Sorry for so long posts


Two katanas in your hand...an ak and a katana strapped on your back

dis aint tenchu

.:nemesis:.
05-15-2007, 06:41 PM
Jamal please dont double post, use the http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/images/gta/buttons/ edit.gif feature in your last post.

Please read the rules (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/announcement.php? f=98) since you have not done so.

will99
05-16-2007, 12:46 PM
How about 2 katanas on your back and beingh about to go nside Dojos and grad tons and tons of melee weapons, good idea, si or no? - me spanish! :D

ZCAB
05-16-2007, 12:54 PM
Two katanas? Good luck waving those around. Probably better off using Wakizashis instead.

will99
05-16-2007, 12:56 PM
how about throwing knives? ;) That would be cool, And the knives stay in the dead bodies.

The_Patient
05-16-2007, 05:42 PM
I liked in VC the fact that completing missions would add items to your safe houses e.g

- The Candy Suxx poster's after doing The Film Studios
- All The Trophies from completing stadium missons.

Maybe they could work that into IV, I dont think it was there in SA, so i doubt they've even
thought about it.

Dawlish
05-16-2007, 07:53 PM
dunno if this has been posted already (there's shed loads to read)

you should be able to loads cars up onto lorries and drive them places. i really wished you could do that in sa and was pissed off when the leviathan lost its magnet after that mission.
also, maybe choose which weapons you wish to take out from your safehouses each time for weight carrying realism. also it would mean you night not lose your all your weapons when you die if you've been smart.
buying and selling should be prominent as well. maybe finding weapons and being able to sell them on. or even buying weapons from one shop and supplying to another in a different part of town for a higher price - ? and you should be able to steal cars and sell them for good prices (anyone played 'drug wars'?) but have to remove serials so the buyers will take them. lol. what if you could steal any car to sell but had to steal the relavent paperwork from the owners house via looking in police files n stuff. police cars have that sort of data on their computers so you could steal one, have like 2 days before its de-activated but you could find out number plate adresses from it and make some money. ? i love speculation.
also, have a damn music player when your walking. cant believe its not been done since gta2. its elementary.


hmm...
what else?

oh yeah, you should be albe to grab people mgs2 style. for shields etc..
and people should have limited ammo. a hobo with a gun might only have a clip (or maybe less, it would be pretty funny if you got him shooting at you but he only had 3 bullets and then ran away), policemen should have 3 clips, and mobsters should carry arsenals ou dont want to f*ck with. this should also correspond to how much ammo you pickup from them after the firefight. capische?

if your gonna have a mobile you could call an ambulance to pick you up if our wounded, but for the outrageous prices yanks pay for treatment, so it wouldnt be an easy way out all the time. an you obviously wouldnt be able to do it with a wanted level.

also, to get some idea of the dodginess and risk behind smuggling people (because its seems an element) anyone who's not done se should take the time to read Earnest Hemmingways
'To Have and Have Not'.


and there should be multiple vantage points for missions, not yellow markers to walk into. if your going into a mission where there's 10 people on a rooftop, normally you would have to walk into the marker for them to even be there. in this one they should be there from when you take the mission and approach it your way.
and i cant wait to see the damage models on cars.
and one more thing, accesible buildings. how many skyscrapers in new york do you think you'd be able to just walk into without actually having an appointent? let alone a scruffy looking russian. you'd have hardcore armed meatheads after you even in real life, handcuffs and all. i suppose there'll be imits to roaming in that respect. especially post 9/11. also, (lol) if rockstar want to break the city up into sections and not give you the full run around straight away, i bet police will be harsh to you when your in posh areas. they might say, attempt to question you and if you run then you'll get a star an stuff. so the areas wont be physically blocked off but will be such a blag they wont be worth it early on. an i bet the 'heat' will be much more intense in downtown areas, for abvious reasons.
just a few thoughts.

The_Patient
05-17-2007, 10:32 AM
As previously mentioned music players whilst walking would ruin new aspects of the game.

I read somewhere that ped's will be having conversations, reacting to each other etc. Missing out on this kind of realism with a unneccesary option would be a waste. But i guess if you could turn it off/on freely it wouldnt be that much of a problem. May even be implemented into missions seems as the radio's been revamped. Maybe more Upto-date news bulletins could hint towards missions and stuff.

The limited ammo and ped grabbing sounds good. Watching cop's reactions when they run out of ammo could be quite funny. >.<

comics22
05-17-2007, 05:07 PM
i just remembered somehting that pissed me off to no end. why do they even have the packer in SA if its totally useless? i mean sure u can load cars on it but they dont stay. you move 1/2 a block and theirt already falling off cuz you hit a pebble...or you will be loading them and just barely going and the car behind you rearends you maing all the cars on your packer flip off or hang off the edge...


oh and the friggin hoinking from the other cars cuz you passed them...

Jimmy_86
05-18-2007, 09:05 AM
If the cell phone has a working camera like the previews say it does, it'd be nice if you can save these photos onto the console hard drive, and then be able to transfer them on to PC so we can all be posting pics on day 1.

The_Patient
05-18-2007, 09:29 AM
Some of the pictures could be amazing, Views from all the monuments. Top of The Empire State etc If that is possible. Did it say anything about capturing video? I knew about the pictures but recording video, woop!. You could document a day in the life of a ped.

Oooo, Wishlist addition. Working elevators in the Empire State. [ Those things mess with your ears ]

Lettermaniac
05-18-2007, 09:32 AM
Yes, seeing the cellphone has a camera, it'll mean that we can take brilliant cityscape shots, with great draw distance too.

Flip
05-18-2007, 10:58 AM
If the cell phone has a working camera like the previews say it does, it'd be nice if you can save these photos onto the console hard drive, and then be able to transfer them on to PC so we can all be posting pics on day 1.

I like that, great idea.

Anyway, I don't know if these ideas have been posted before, but whatever...

I really hope the cops act more realistic. No more 'You're a criminal, which means I must kill you now.' Instead, knock the criminal (which should be more people than just Niko) on the ground, and use handcuffs. Or shoot him in the leg. Sure, it's more difficult to escape from the cops if they use such ways, but I don't see the army racing down the streets of NY because they need to chase only one man. Using handcuffs, using cars to suddenly come out of a corner to knock a criminal down, or shooting his leg is just to add realism. Just make sure you find some cover when the cops are trying to shoot you in your leg, arm, or, when really necessary, your head.
Also, use advanced strategies to kill or arrest a criminal. When he's home or hiding in a hideout, surround the place with 5 - 10 police cars, keep a gun aiming at the door and windows, and tell him to come out in 10 seconds. Of course, you're gonna need some way to escape. Get your car from your garage, and drive through the door. When you're not coming out in the given time, the cops (or SWAT, depends on your crimes) will kick in your door and search for you. Etc...

Also, I want better fighting styles. Like in The Warriors, you can use bottles, pipes, planks, boxes, whatever. And when you've kicked/smashed/thrown/hit the guy that hard that he's not able to walk, I want to see him crawling away. His face or body need to look ruined, too. And, be able to break his neck, those kind of things to take him out immediately. Although I'm sure we'll see some really nice effects with the new physics engine.

And some ways to clean up your 'mess'. When you've killed someone and you don't want the cops to see the body, put him in your trunk, take him to the water and dump him. Or take your car to the crusher (great feature from GTA III, I really hope it returns) and let both the car and body disappear. Or if you want the guy to talk, you want or need to interrogate him, take him to creepy spots, or your hideout, and torture him.
This would be nice for some missions. Like every previous GTA, you meet someone, and he/she tells you what to do. Usually, you're paid to take someone out. This time, instead of killing him, to make him shut up, hurt him, to make him talk.

I'm sure there's more, this is all I can think of right now.

The_Patient
05-18-2007, 11:54 AM
Interrogating sounds cool. There could be like a special target area at a hideout, like a chair in a room or something and it activates a kind of mini-game. Resembling that used in the 24 game, but you can do it at free-will rather than it being compulsory. You could get infromation on weapon whereabout's, target gang members etc

I hope the Faggio makes a return, i thought these were so cool in Vice City and i rarely see it in SA. It might be one of the 6 types of bike they have in the game. I hope it is. It could have a helmet on the back which Niko puts on when he hops on. x]

will99
05-18-2007, 12:59 PM
I liked in VC the fact that completing missions would add items to your safe houses e.g

- The Candy Suxx poster's after doing The Film Studios
- All The Trophies from completing stadium missons.

Maybe they could work that into IV, I dont think it was there in SA, so i doubt they've even
thought about it.
Yeah, and doing side missioms gave u trophies on top of your TV. So yeah, That should be involved in GTA IV.

manodemidas
05-27-2007, 08:35 PM
I would like to see (apart from all the things you've listed, of course) different rains, like, a few raindrops to a brutal storm, an I'd like that some streets would be filled with water after the storms, too... more "reality"

Goat
05-30-2007, 03:50 PM
In SA I liked being able to shoot pool in a bar. I hope that feature returns. Darts also? Realistic pasttimes are fun.

And while golf courses were part of the environments in SA and VCS it would be nice if we could actually play golf. But I somehow doubt that Niko will be joining any country clubs. A public course perhaps?

will99
05-30-2007, 03:53 PM
I think in this GTA peds should park, get in and out of cars, shake hands with other peds and be talking on the phone to bring the city to LIFE! In other games you never see peds parking and getting in and out of cars do u?

FG
05-30-2007, 04:01 PM
I think in this GTA peds should park, get in and out of cars, shake hands with other peds and be talking on the phone to bring the city to LIFE! In other games you never see peds parking and getting in and out of cars do u?

Interesting idea:) hmm, if they get out an just walk away(SA), but if instead they actually do something...like you say talk, wash the car, etc;that would be an improvement,aswell.

ohh... like you say will , just start playing Dart's, or play catch ...something to seem lively.

will99
05-30-2007, 04:05 PM
very good idea mate. ;) Lets hope they are all featured.

manodemidas
05-30-2007, 08:54 PM
One of the things I most hope is that tuning is still there, and improved... it was great in SA, in GTAIV it could be even greater

Dawlish
05-30-2007, 09:11 PM
as much as i hope i dont think car modding will turn up too much. might do, would be absolutely ace. i'd like it if you could choose what colour you wanted your car at the pay and spray. even better if you could 'improve' your cars from there. also i think its been said but it should be more damage more money at pay and sprays. it would be cool if your could buy import cars from pay and sprays or even from dealers. i'd love that. i'd love it if you had insurance to pay but in return you could have your car of choice parked outside safe houses. even if you totalled them. but if you dont pay insurance it wont happen. i'd quite like to see a more 'in depth' financial system happening so its harder to do things. i want it to feel like your on the rough side of liberty city .................................................. .................................................. ................................................ on a side note i think it would be cool if you could jump out of skyscraper windows n stuff. y'know, daft things.

The_Patient
05-30-2007, 09:30 PM
Throwing people off buildings is in there. Through windows would be awesome, the glass would be majorly realistic and with the new over the shoulder aim you should be able to watch them fall. Maybe take pictures with the camera.

Ophie
06-03-2007, 04:38 AM
Definitely more realistic ped AI and my most wanted is more realistic car crash as in when you crash your car and it would react to the environment like it would in real life:lick:

will99
06-03-2007, 04:44 AM
yeah...and maybe a more realistic Felony bar?

Ophie
06-03-2007, 05:24 AM
Yeah like nobody sees you killing a ped but you still get a star

will99
06-03-2007, 05:35 AM
yeah, and if u lose the cops and change car, they will investigate your old car and then u are safe in a new car.

Ophie
06-03-2007, 05:56 AM
I think it's designed to make the game harder. But still infinite police cars are either chasing you or are coming towards you front way. it's like never ending

Dawlish
06-03-2007, 12:00 PM
what do people think the traffics gonna be like in this one? i hope in some areas (namely the business districts) the trafic is jam packed and impossible, making it more sensible to try and lose the cops on foot if needs be. that would be cool cos before it was just the same old drill when the old bill came afetr you - quick, car time! - but if the traffics packed the popo's would have to chase you on foot too. i'd love that. also, is six-axis going to play much of a feature in the ps3 version? i hope so somehow.

Ophie
06-03-2007, 12:04 PM
I hope to see traffic jams like in ny

The_Patient
06-03-2007, 12:23 PM
Mass traffic is most likely included. It would be a part of the day cycle that has been talked about. More casual traffic midday, Early morning and evening jams etc

Randomly spawning cops would be suckish for such a realistic game. Hopefully a system where you hear the cops call for back-up to be implemented at certain streets and areas, and then when you enter these areas there are already roadblocks and cops there ready to stop/pursue you.

Tyler
06-03-2007, 12:44 PM
Hopefully a system where you hear the cops call for back-up to be implemented at certain streets and areas, and then when you enter these areas there are already roadblocks and cops there ready to stop/pursue you.


thats prob. why R* is adding street names. =]

and like Will99 said, about switching the cars and stuff, didnt they do that in Driver: PL in a certin mission?

that was pretty fun.
and i can see Niko running, jumping over cars during a busy trafficjam with cops right behind him. :)

Don
06-03-2007, 02:40 PM
GTA IV will have street names? Pretty cool.

A speedometer will be nice, too. Also more types of bikes, Vice City and San Andreas had like 5.

The_Patient
06-03-2007, 02:47 PM
I read somewhere that there will be 6 or 7 types of Bikes in IV, whether that was official im not sure. Hopefully one of these 6 will be a kind of bicycle.

will99
06-03-2007, 03:00 PM
How about an electric scooter?

The_Patient
06-03-2007, 03:03 PM
The return of the faggio?

Could suit the streets of Liberty City. Would deserve a ressurection.

Don
06-03-2007, 03:08 PM
I read somewhere that there will be 6 or 7 types of Bikes in IV, whether that was official im not sure. Hopefully one of these 6 will be a kind of bicycle.

As long as they're not as shitty as the wayfarer. Or the freeway for that matter.

Tyler
06-03-2007, 03:54 PM
As long as they're not as shitty as the wayfarer. Or the freeway for that matter.

haaa. so true.

but yeah, the faggio could work around LC, but Niko, the "hardass" riding a little scooter? lol

i really couldnt see that happening.

Nediar
06-03-2007, 04:51 PM
Tommy was such a hard ass to, he still managed to ride the scooter and keep pimpin'.

Lettermaniac
06-03-2007, 06:17 PM
haaa. so true.

but yeah, the faggio could work around LC, but Niko, the "hardass" riding a little scooter? lol

i really couldnt see that happening.

Hmmm... I can. I mean there would be a lot of Pizza Boys riding around NY, and lots of Faggios around Little Italy, so if Niko wants one he can have one imo. And Ned said, Tommy managed to stay cool whilst riding that thing :P

Also, someone mentioned traffic jams. We've already seen the amount of traffic in screens and the trailer, and it looks like jams are possible. I'd like to see them too, because that'd be very real.

Tendercrisp
06-03-2007, 08:51 PM
How about moving hidden packages? Hidden packages that are actually people who move around the city that you have to kill. Kind of like the "Timmy's" in Driv3r, but better.

Here it is, there are 100 people bearing a resemblance to Claude Speed who run around the city killing people and stealing cars, just like you. You'll see them walk in and out of mission areas, and you'll see them carrying out missions ranging from drug deals to driving around hookers, to epic things like huge gunfights or taking out enemies and helicopters on top of buildings. They don't have cell phones like you, so you'll see them on payphones alot of the time. They'll also participate in races. But due to the fact that there's 100 of these guys in the city at any given time, most of the time they'll be driving and/or walking around like regular peds.

They all have their own safehouses, which they'll retire to at random times. They'll spend exactly 6 game hours there before emerging outside and getting back on there streets to continue living their lives. This will be your oppurtunity to kill them. When you kill them, you'll get a message like "1 of 100 thugs wasted". They drop whatever they're equipped with at the time, and they usually carry between 1 and 5 grand.

They fight harder than most peds, and they have way more health. If their health gets low, they'll try to escape from you, making a beeline to their safehouse or the nearest hospital, so you'll have to hunt them down. If they run out of ammo, they'll either fight you with their fists and/or melee weapons, or they'll try to get to the nearest ammu-nation. Whichever would be the best strategy depending on the power of the weapons you're carrying. They'll attempt using nearby peds as human shields, and they'll take cover behind walls and cars.

They'll still respawn at the hospital after that, so you can still have fun killing them, but they'll cause a little less havoc, and they'll have a different colored jacket to signify that you already killed them.

I think this would add a whole new level of replay value to the series, and would totally beat the shit out of regular hidden packages.

Lettermaniac
06-03-2007, 09:25 PM
Now these are the posts I like. That's a fantastic idea.

Because we're in grimy, crime - ridden LC we should see more thugs going around doing what we do. And your idea is a) a way to work ourselves to the top of the crime ladder, b) a hidden package alternative and c) a way to make money (taking their profits), own houses (taking their houses for your own) and other assets (their chopper is now yours).

I'd love to see this implemented, along with hidden packages still.

Tendercrisp
06-03-2007, 10:00 PM
Or better yet, instead of just looking like claude, they can look like multiple past protagonists. In order to give different challenges.

The "claudes" are stronger and more ruthless when it comes to killing, and they drive really well. They carry shotguns, but they suck at fighting, and they carry a medium amount of money.

The "Tommys" are richer and have better weapons, they usually live in high rise apartments and own their own helis and boats. They specialize in commandeering boats, but they're pretty handy with motorcycles too.

The "CJ's" Carry simple pistols, bats, knives, and other gangland weapons. They don't have that much money, but they always seem to have a good group of friends protecting them, and they're much more effecient when it comes to carjacking, if they need to get away from you in a hurry. They are really good at hand-to-hand combat.

Lettermaniac
06-04-2007, 12:18 AM
That's awesome. I'd be overjoyed if I saw this level of creativity (in terms of the hidden packages, not overall :P) in the game.

jammsbro
06-04-2007, 04:08 PM
I'd like to be able to actually hide from the cops. Like in SA, no matter where you hide, or how well you do so the cops can find you instantly even if there were none around.

Sometimes your star level just won't go down.

YellowJacket
06-04-2007, 04:32 PM
A 1963 Corvette. Ohhhh how beautiful it would be.

Lettermaniac
06-04-2007, 11:31 PM
A 1963 Corvette. Ohhhh how beautiful it would be.

Well, if a similar car isn't in the game (don't think there has ever been a '63 Corvette knockoff in GTA anyway) there'll always be mods for the PC version ;)

wwhi2
06-05-2007, 06:32 AM
hello evryone, im wwhi2@yahoo.co.uk . how is everybody?

Ian
06-05-2007, 07:35 AM
How about moving hidden packages? Hidden packages that are actually people who move around the city that you have to kill. Kind of like the "Timmy's" in Driv3r, but better.

Here it is, there are 100 people bearing a resemblance to Claude Speed who run around the city killing people and stealing cars, just like you. You'll see them walk in and out of mission areas, and you'll see them carrying out missions ranging from drug deals to driving around hookers, to epic things like huge gunfights or taking out enemies and helicopters on top of buildings. They don't have cell phones like you, so you'll see them on payphones alot of the time. They'll also participate in races. But due to the fact that there's 100 of these guys in the city at any given time, most of the time they'll be driving and/or walking around like regular peds.


I like your idea. However, I'll bet lots of people will accidentally kill the 'package' when out driving recklessly into random peds as I'd do. Then the game would say "1 out of 100 packages" and they'd go "WTF did I just hit?" :P :lol:

Blazer
06-05-2007, 09:33 AM
Make it more than 100 thugs/peds. Make it 1000, and tack a 360 achievement on it. (Donno is PS3 has the achievement style thing or not) but that'd be cool. Make it where you have got to be ready for a fight or else you'll just die. Lots of bullets, lots of running and hidding. Having to hunt him down so you can finish him off, etc. Very good ideas from Tendercrisp. But what happened to the GTA2 Elvis lines? Those were cool to run over

Eagle ScopeUK
06-05-2007, 11:50 AM
One main thing I want is realism. I don't want to be able to walk around the city with a rocket launcher and be ignored. I don't want to be gunned down for hitting a pedestrian, I would like to see cops to disarm me and throw Niko to the floor when he hits pedestrians and speed or crash into cars. When he murders someone, of course there's gonna be heat. I should be able to lay low and when the heat has cooled off, pedestrians should be giving me dirty looks and screaming and running away, with the addition of seeing Niko's face over the TV and newspapers.

No one leaves there car around unlocked, I shouldn't be able to steal cars without being in trouble. I want full access to my car, being able to lay guns in my back seats and trunk. Maybe when in a mission, I could sneak up to a parked car at night and sit in the back of a vehicle and go into first person view.. I would definitely like to see something similar.

I would also like to see clever pedestrians, remember how mad the highways were in San Andreas? When you cut up pedestrians and just generally pi** them off, they could maybe smash into the back of my car, I would definitely like to see pedestrians carried away in a cop car.

Car damage should play a big role, if the car scratches along the wall the paint should get scratched. If I ram into a hard object, the front, back, sides and top of the car should sustain damage. Crashing into big trucks should possibly kill Niko. Head on collisions should see pedestrians fly through wind screens.

When Niko commits crimes, injures someone, kills someone or burns something emergency services should arrive. Then take the pedestrians away (shouldn't take up too much disk space??). But what I'd mainly like to see is, if I commit a cold blooded murder, it'd be a nice feature to see the area cornered off and an investigation going into the murder.

Banks, shops etc should be accessible and can be interacted with. Access to money (Bank) robbing (shops and banks) and purchasing new items.

will99
06-05-2007, 12:28 PM
Good Idea, people should run on site of a gun and especially a Chainsaw.

Tyler
06-05-2007, 02:19 PM
Yeah, because in VC, i would rev the Chainsaw and people wouldnt do anything.
then i would kill em. :laugh:

will99
06-05-2007, 02:23 PM
Well in VC when u used the chainsaw and still hit no one, people still ran.:wtf: What I would like to see if u walk around with a Katana, It would be cool if people shouted out "AAAGGGHHHH! He has a katana...RUN!!" u know?

The_Patient
06-06-2007, 05:55 PM
Weapon recognition. That would be awesome, I doubt they willl include the katana in this one, hopefully they will consider the chainsaw to be more realistic =D

Hmm I wonder if they will change the sprinting mechanics, rather than holding X you may just push the analog stick forward and his speed decreases when out of breath.It would certainly show progress in another minor detail of the franchise.

Tendercrisp
06-07-2007, 07:31 PM
Weapon recognition. That would be awesome, I doubt they willl include the katana in this one...


They better. I'm serious.

And besides, Houser already said that there'd still be "crazy ridiculous" weapons.

Grimmy
06-07-2007, 07:33 PM
crazy ridiculous? Katana-Rocket Launcher? That'd be totally out of this world. But also impossible :P

bigpimpin1
06-08-2007, 12:40 PM
i would like to see more random minigames like car salesman and stuff, stuff like gun salesman or clothes tryer onner guy

will99
06-08-2007, 01:07 PM
yeah, good thought there, that would be very realistic. :)

Jamal
06-12-2007, 06:13 PM
crazy ridiculous? Katana-Rocket Launcher? That'd be totally out of this world. But also impossible :P


not reallly attach a katana to a rocket launcher is eazy

Goat
06-13-2007, 01:27 PM
New York Sewer System! Hopefully recreated in Liberty City to some extent. Underground in the literal sense.

Ian
06-14-2007, 04:11 AM
Just a small minor detail thing:

I don't know if anyone's mentioned this before - car doors that can be rammed off. Hopefully this will be catergorised under 'car damage physhics'.

You're zooming along a narrow street and suddenly one of the cars in front park and open his doors - WHAM!

Or - if your own door is opened, you can just reverse beside a light pole or another car to crash it off.

WiM
06-14-2007, 04:40 AM
I hope so, that small detail always bugged me in the other gtas

icebreaker202
06-16-2007, 07:21 AM
What about train surfing? I think that would ROCK!

The_Patient
06-16-2007, 10:08 AM
Doubt it will be a part of the game, unless its done in a style like the at the end of Speed, but you might be able to do this anyway, especially if climbing has been redone.

icebreaker202
06-17-2007, 03:52 AM
I think train surfing could be a side mission like those taxi missions and stuff.

gta4crazy1
06-18-2007, 06:16 PM
like stated, real weather, like tornadoes(sp?) even though it wouldn't go well in just a city. also, car physics improved, like knocking off doors when you hit a pole. i would love to see an actual conversation with a pedestrian, not the short speech. able to make friends with some pedestrians, like gang related, and have like a hook up with the cops, like befriend like the sheriff, so you can get off on certain crimes ( actually take bribes, not just go through a star). actually be able to be driven somewhere.it would be really cool in my perspective if they brought back bicycles, that was just really cool for me. but have a possibility to get a 2 seater for like co op or your friends.as stated, be able to destroy buildings, and see a construction zone around the part you destroyed. actually see a crime scene, whether caused or not caused by you. have cars be brought to you, like scarface. be able to put basically anything in your trunk. I would also like to see better car modifications. like engine tune ups, actual lift kits to put on your blazer or pick up, or actually hot rod a car. if boats are in it( i dont remember if i saw it) but jet skis i think would be cool, since it is a harbor. house modifications like scarface, that would be really cool. i know this may sound absurd, but the " sex scene" in the car on previous gta's, was really lame. if they are going to put it in 4, then at least make it look like they move, maybe not necessarily in a sexual way, but maybe see them move to the back seat and you dont see them again until like 2 minutes later( game time). like i said, this may sound absurd, but i noticed that in gta 3, vc, and sa. i know some of this has been stated, but i thought i would bring it up again since, it is a "wishlist".

Tyler
06-18-2007, 07:45 PM
about the "sex scene" thing, i think they should see the players move to the back seat, and then the window's fog, you hear the moaning, the car rocking, then like 3 min's (game time) it ends, and you pay.

gta4crazy1
06-18-2007, 09:43 PM
yea, thats a better idea, because it will make you think something is going on, so it will be a mystery

Ix Elit3 xI
06-19-2007, 12:16 PM
yea, thats a better idea, because it will make you think something is going on, so it will be a mystery

Yeah, like a cop shows up and finds out theyre eating hot quiznos subs. rofl

gta4crazy1
06-19-2007, 01:52 PM
hahhahahah funny as hell. to me that bummed me, because you would look at them and they would be staring off into space while the car is rocking. i just want to see them move and like disappear into the back seat and NOT be able to see them, so you honestly wouldnt know.that would just make me happy. just to see SOME movement.

jammsbro
06-23-2007, 01:45 PM
I hate, hate, HATE other cars that change lane when you are hammering up mehind them like the devil. Bad AI, no-one on earth would do that. It not fun and its done just to spite you.

I hate invincible cops when they are getting off their bikes.

I hate when you check behind you during a chase and when you go to the front view there are three new cars, usually one right in front of you.

get rid of all of these things.

smooth
06-23-2007, 02:25 PM
I want proper pursuits, NFS: Most Wanted style. Cops trying to smash you against the wall, surrounding you,cops driving in front of you suddenly breaking to stop you, lot's of roadblocks and the ability to hide from them.

RobKellas
06-23-2007, 05:51 PM
1) Petrol in your car
2) Animals, from dogs on the street to whales in the sea to monkeys in the trees
3) More unusual modes of transport, like a hot air baloon, a shopping cart and a wheelchair
4) The tazer gun, like in GTA 2
5) Natural disasters
6) Not just grown up peds, children too.
7) Permenant damage. for example, you hit a lamp-post, you drive around, you save the game, you turn it off, you turn it back on, you load the game, you go back to the lamp-post and it is still broken. The same should go for windows.
8) More talk stations, like the one in LCS, listening to it was hilarious.
9) A customisable character, like on saints row
10) Realistic wanted levels.
11) 2 new camera views, one where you see the dashboard of the car, one similar to gta2, where the camera is overhead

I could go on...

jammsbro
06-23-2007, 07:13 PM
whales in the sea to monkeys in the trees

:smash: monkeys? in liberty??

The_Patient
06-23-2007, 07:51 PM
1) Petrol in your car
2) Animals, from dogs on the street to whales in the sea to monkeys in the trees
3) More unusual modes of transport, like a hot air baloon, a shopping cart and a wheelchair
4) The tazer gun, like in GTA 2
5) Natural disasters
6) Not just grown up peds, children too.
7) Permenant damage. for example, you hit a lamp-post, you drive around, you save the game, you turn it off, you turn it back on, you load the game, you go back to the lamp-post and it is still broken. The same should go for windows.
8) More talk stations, like the one in LCS, listening to it was hilarious.
9) A customisable character, like on saints row
10) Realistic wanted levels.
11) 2 new camera views, one where you see the dashboard of the car, one similar to gta2, where the camera is overhead

I could go on...

There was a small child in the trailer i think, i swear i saw a screen of one annnndd me thinks i read about a dashboard view somewhere too :)

Tyler
06-23-2007, 08:49 PM
2) Monkeys and whales? haa, no.
6) R* will never have childeren in their games. they said so.
7) that would be rediculous, and stupid, there would be no light posts after you finish the game. =P
10) explain "realistic wanted levels" like, real cop AI?
i agree on that, but the rest, just stupid. :)

gta4crazy1
06-24-2007, 08:58 AM
was anyone else mad/ disappointed with the fact of lack of diversity of trucks in the gta series? like the rancher, bobcat, and that dually, or any cars in general. like you would see 2 admirals right behind each other. i dont think there should be clumping of cars. does anyone else think there should be different kinds?

i would also like to see a lock pick system like splinter cell. be able to break in to locked areas, or do it all stealth like. i would also like to see being able to buy safe houses again. and be able to go in all of them, or most.

jammsbro
06-24-2007, 06:20 PM
What about train surfing? I think that would ROCK!

lol, that would be pretty good as a mission.

Lettermaniac
06-24-2007, 11:01 PM
was anyone else mad/ disappointed with the fact of lack of diversity of trucks in the gta series? like the rancher, bobcat, and that dually, or any cars in general. like you would see 2 admirals right behind each other. i dont think there should be clumping of cars. does anyone else think there should be different kinds?

i would also like to see a lock pick system like splinter cell. be able to break in to locked areas, or do it all stealth like. i would also like to see being able to buy safe houses again. and be able to go in all of them, or most.

I'd only like to see big amounts of the same cars when it came to taxis. Surely Times Square will be riddled with them! Otherwise there needs to be some way to make it more diverse. Although in a couple of recent screens I have seen many of the same old convertible piled up :(

Jamal
06-25-2007, 01:12 AM
I would be angry if rockstar put children in it.......U kno ull be gunnin down kidz

gta4crazy1
06-25-2007, 01:59 PM
thats probably why they have kept them out, lets hope it stays that way.

Jamal
06-25-2007, 06:13 PM
and to hte guy that said "whales in the ocean"

STOP

niko gon be goin for whale blubber 2?

waggy44
06-26-2007, 11:34 AM
this is just a small thing. Playing san andreas and doing a mission where iv got 2 white guys in the back seat with SF-UR on the radio. changing it to Radio Los Santos got me thinking.
Maybe A.I that makes them realise what station your listening to and giving there opinion. like i would imagine in that situation, the 2 guys in the back would say, "turn that shit off" or "put K-DST on".
just that kind of detail with the A.I i would like to see in GTA IV.

Vortigern
06-26-2007, 11:47 AM
this is just a small thing. Playing san andreas and doing a mission where iv got 2 white guys in the back seat with SF-UR on the radio. changing it to Radio Los Santos got me thinking.
Maybe A.I that makes them realise what station your listening to and giving there opinion. like i would imagine in that situation, the 2 guys in the back would say, "turn that shit off" or "put K-DST on".
just that kind of detail with the A.I i would like to see in GTA IV.

You would probobly know all possible reactions within a week, it would get really boring and even annoying if you ask me...

waggy44
06-26-2007, 12:00 PM
You would probobly know all possible reactions within a week, it would get really boring and even annoying if you ask me...

naaa cus it would only be mission invloved people that you would rarely take out n about.

Vortigern
06-26-2007, 12:14 PM
naaa cus it would only be mission invloved people that you would rarely take out n about.
If you get a stupid comment about the radio in half of the driving missions, they will still annoy in time. Unless they make like a thousand audio files for the event.

Flip
06-26-2007, 12:53 PM
You would probobly know all possible reactions within a week, it would get really boring and even annoying if you ask me...

I don't agree. When I found out about the GSF guys saying stuff like: I can't blast with you going that fast, CJ! while doing a drive-by, I was surprised, and I thought it was a really nice addition to their intelligence. I still don't think it's boring, and I'd love to hear stuff like: I can't blast with you listening to that crap, Niko!

But, random ideas:

Peds knowing about your crimes would be cool. Like hearing them saying: Hey, you were in last week's news/mentioned on the radio (or TV)! He killed [insert name]! After all, they're already reading newspapers, right? And to add to my last post in this thread (about you being able to get rid of witnesses), when a ped recognizes you, you can take him with you and kill him somewhere else.

What I really want to see are realistic foot chases. In SA, when you were walking around and you killed a ped while a cop was close, you'd get one star, and the cop would chase you for one minute. After that, he's gone. That's a bit unrealistic. The cop should ask for backup, or take a shortcut to surprise you. Or shoot you in your leg... Or maybe, being able to surprise the cop, or hide from him, while your in a telephone pole, or in some bushes, shadows, etc... Even better, for some real action, let Niko be able to grab someone, aim on his head with a gun and scream things like: Get away from me or I'll blow his brains out! I can already imagine him saying that with his pretty accent :D

gta4crazy1
06-26-2007, 02:10 PM
haha that would be cool. i hope to see what all he is capable to do in the game, or at least a little, like show him climbing a telephone pole to hide from the cops or a fire escape. that would be cool

Lettermaniac
06-26-2007, 05:11 PM
Seeing Niko's walking animations have been greatly improved, having cops shoot him in the leg would be a realistic touch. It would be nice to see him limp away slowly and (maybe) loose quite a bit of health due to exhaustion. That way cops could get you if you simply hit a ped, or they could just give up as normal if you're good :P

santos
06-26-2007, 10:34 PM
Seeing Niko's walking animations have been greatly improved, having cops shoot him in the leg would be a realistic touch. It would be nice to see him limp away slowly and (maybe) loose quite a bit of health due to exhaustion. That way cops could get you if you simply hit a ped, or they could just give up as normal if you're good :P

I was just thinking of that. It would greatly improve upon the previous games where your healthing could be at the very low, but you still seem to be healthy enough to move. Hopefully in this game, when the health meter is at the very low, Niko will feel as if he's nearly dead.

I'm a bit behind on the recent news of the game. Did they mention anything about weather changes? I would like to see the four seasons happen in the game. Give the city a more atmospheric feel.

I would also like to see more of like a stealth-like fearture of Niko. Make him creep up very slowly with the gun pointing out and make him hide behind walls while shooting at the same time.

santos
06-27-2007, 04:13 PM
I just thought of this idea last night when I was playing GTA: VCS. The drive-by mechanics didn't give much freedom in the previous games to use any weapon. The only weapon you could use was the sub-machine. Hopefully they can improve upon by using other weapons such as a handgun or a shotgun.

jwrebholz
06-28-2007, 11:13 PM
"I hate, hate, HATE other cars that change lane when you are hammering up mehind them like the devil. Bad AI, no-one on earth would do that. It not fun and its done just to spite you"

You obviously have never driven around here. People do that to me ALL THE TIME.

TheFunktipuss
07-01-2007, 03:24 PM
I wanna see better lighting/shadowing and just an overall better game, with a better story line, with more aspects of VC :lick:

Jamal
07-01-2007, 05:16 PM
Earlier mentioned....i wud love to se itlike in tha godfather where if u kill someone ppl on da street will talk about it

Gotadime
07-01-2007, 08:58 PM
Earlier mentioned....i wud love to se itlike in tha godfather where if u kill someone ppl on da street will talk about it

Thats a nice idea. It would make the game much more realistic. Maybe they could even include a newspaper article every now and then, like in Hitman. :)

FG
07-02-2007, 05:00 PM
I'm wishing for a smaller version of VCS's* Lil- Willy * helo( ultra-lite)since helo's are in.I,m wondering if R* will have a new *something* that they manage to keep secret , till you actually put the game into your console.

What will it be?? :zero:you think

Gotadime
07-02-2007, 06:39 PM
I'm wishing for a smaller version of VCS's* Lil- Willy * helo( ultra-lite)since helo's are in.I,m wondering if R* will have a new *something* that they manage to keep secret , till you actually put the game into your console.

What will it be?? :zero:you think


Haha. I'm sure that they will have plenty of small and large surprises waiting for us. =]

Lettermaniac
07-02-2007, 07:09 PM
I'm wishing for a smaller version of VCS's* Lil- Willy * helo( ultra-lite)since helo's are in.I,m wondering if R* will have a new *something* that they manage to keep secret , till you actually put the game into your console.

What will it be?? :zero:you think

There'll be heaps of things they don't let us know about until we play it. Remember, they said that 30% of the game was going to be given away, and then 70% would be left for us to find out. So expect constant surprises for a long time ;)

Gotadime
07-02-2007, 07:20 PM
There'll be heaps of things they don't let us know about until we play it. Remember, they said that 30% of the game was going to be given away, and then 70% would be left for us to find out. So expect constant surprises for a long time ;)

Yeah. With SA, I remember it took a year or more for some things to be found. There will be plenty of surprises - obvious and hidden. :)

waggy44
07-02-2007, 07:30 PM
i can see the thread in months time and cant wait to be involved in it. altho discovering stuff for yourself is thrilling, seeing what everyone else has discovered is also excicting.

The_Patient
07-02-2007, 08:14 PM
Yeah. With SA, I remember it took a year or more for some things to be found. There will be plenty of surprises - obvious and hidden. :)

Exactly, I didnt know about some of the ghost cars, the suicidal peds and all that stuff for a while. Well, until I came to GTAgaming. :)

I wont view the GTA IV page for a while when it comes out, just to find stuff myself. Or until i get stuck...

Gotadime
07-02-2007, 10:45 PM
Exactly, I didnt know about some of the ghost cars, the suicidal peds and all that stuff for a while. Well, until I came to GTAgaming. :)

I wont view the GTA IV page for a while when it comes out, just to find stuff myself. Or until i get stuck...


Haha. Yeah. The ghost car was pretty wild when it first got discovered. Then somebody came along with a Bigfoot mod, and it completely killed everything else. :p

And it is always fun to find stuff on your own, as long as you're capable of doing so. Some people are just to oblivious to see whats right in front of their eyes. :) I remember some people going nuts over finding a rocket launcher....lol.

AvatarMike17
07-05-2007, 09:44 AM
you know i think we should have a swat tank, and have a roit happen, not like in SA but like a bigg crowd of people go up against the police line, fun stuff

AvatarMike17
07-05-2007, 09:50 AM
There'll be heaps of things they don't let us know about until we play it. Remember, they said that 30% of the game was going to be given away, and then 70% would be left for us to find out. So expect constant surprises for a long time ;)

how will they sleep at night for another 100 days knowing we know less than a third of the game, intelligent bastards, we admire you to greatly, what would the world be like with out GTA

The Shy Child.
07-07-2007, 06:04 AM
i think that you can steal trucks and cars while they are moving. for example. in the trailer. niko is hanging on the back of the truck. he moves round to the side of it. and starts shimying across the side of the truck smashes the truck window. unlocks and opens the door. then you throw the driver out and start drving.

and with cars you run and jump onto the back of the car and smash the back window. you crawl in and shoot the driver. unlock and open the door. kick the driver out and then you start driving.

and with the helicopter. you are hanging on the skid. you start shimying across the skid and then climb up until you are at the door. then you smash the window and unlock and open the door you throw the driver out and he gets caught in the blades or he just falls to the ground or he may catch the skid of the helicopter. and if he does this you can shake him off or go low and drop him off.

gta4crazy1
07-07-2007, 11:16 AM
it didnt look like he was trying to steal the big truck in the video, it looked like he was just hanging on trying to not let a suspect get away

The Shy Child.
07-07-2007, 12:18 PM
i hope that they give you a good car customization because i want to be able to customize that stallion we all saw in the second trailer. i cant wait. i want to know about more gameplay features.

Dawlish
07-08-2007, 11:18 AM
i know. what are you on about shy child?? those scene's were blatantly mission based. there's no way thats going to happen. you think Niko just nonchalantly leaped 300 feet in the air to steal that helicopter? i mean he might be loosely russian but he's certainly not spiderman. my guess is that thats just after a cut scene as someone is trying to escape niko's russian clutches, lol. remember the yakuza mission in LCS? anyway, seen as this is a wishlist......... there's part of me that hopes that this game doesnt go too far. sort of hope this is the equivalent of gta3 on ps2. because there's an absolute chasm between gta3 and gta:sa. i hope this game sets the stage for something absolutely huge in a couple of years. meh!

The Shy Child.
07-08-2007, 11:26 AM
Well rockstar did say that you will be able to go more vertical than before. I dont mind about clothes but we do need some sort of car custmization. I meen this is next gen we are talking about here, not PS2s and xboxes.

Jimmy_86
07-09-2007, 06:05 AM
Just a smal thought, I hope there is a skycrane, similar to the Leviathan in the mission "Up Up & Away" in SA (but less glitchy), which can be used at anytime once availiable. Possibly there could even be some side mission related to it.

numba1kkilla_oj
07-09-2007, 10:53 AM
better melee weapons
u can throw people into things
more easter eggs
more side missions with their own little storylines

RobKellas
07-09-2007, 10:55 AM
To pick debris up from exploded cars and smack people with it.

Dawlish
07-09-2007, 03:59 PM
hmm.....if there's helicopters in the game do you think there'll be parachutes?

swallowed
07-10-2007, 03:32 AM
hmm.....if there's helicopters in the game do you think there'll be parachutes?

I also wonder if there will be parachutes in IV, for example if you were flying in a helicopter and you hit a building and it was about to explode, would you have to stay in the helicopter and blow up inside it or have to try to fly lower and jump out to barely survive? I think parachutes would be needed for this because I think that if that happened all the time it would be a bit annoying.

English
07-11-2007, 07:12 AM
i think it would be cool if you could access your music form your ps3 or xb36 and have a station of MP3s while playing.

i would lovve that! Co Sign

Ian
07-11-2007, 07:14 AM
For the helicopter thing - if the game is anymore realistic, you'd be hurling towards Earth in a fireball upon any impact with a building. :D

So, no parachute is needed..

Speaking of which... anyone mentioned heli rescue side missions?

:lol:

The Shy Child.
07-11-2007, 12:36 PM
I would like vehicles to feel as if they have a bit more weight to them and make you feel that if the are flying through the air towards you. That they will be able to kill you.

Being able to see the damage on Niko. Like scars or maybe if you jump froma great height you might break your leg and Niko will limp on one leg and you could break his arm too. Then he will not be able to use a gun with that arm or climb a telephone pole. If you break Nikos legs by falling off a roof or something. Then he wil have to be in a wheel chair for a while. That way if you want to go up on a roof then you fall off by mistake. Then you must accept the consequences.

If you buy a house in GTA IV then you could go out and buy furniture for the rooms like you would have to buy a bed to save the game and you would have to buy a fridge and cooker to replenish your health and that you could add things to your house like a side garage, another level of rooms, a fire escape. Ypu would be able to pick if you want the building to be a buisness or a house.

It would also be cool if you could customize other vehicles like helicopters, motorbikes, boats,

There may be jet skis in the game because people do go out on jet skis on the hudson and jet skis were in vice city stories. so rockstar may bring it back in GTA IV.

gta4crazy1
07-11-2007, 01:04 PM
i hope you can customize bikes that would totally kick ass. and jet skis would be amazing.

Flip
07-11-2007, 01:17 PM
Being able to see the damage on Niko. Like scars or maybe if you jump froma great height you might break your leg and Niko will limp on one leg and you could break his arm too. Then he will not be able to use a gun with that arm or climb a telephone pole. If you break Nikos legs by falling off a roof or something. Then he wil have to be in a wheel chair for a while. That way if you want to go up on a roof then you fall off by mistake. Then you must accept the consequences.

That sounds pretty good, but I can see myself getting annoyed when Niko will walk like Jack Sparrow all the time. Imagine you'd be in a mission where you have to chase someone on foot, and you can't run... Let Niko have wounds, walking problems, etc, for one (in-game) month or so, then they should be gone to prevent annoyance.

Gotadime
07-12-2007, 11:43 AM
If you buy a house in GTA IV then you could go out and buy furniture for the rooms like you would have to buy a bed to save the game and you would have to buy a fridge and cooker to replenish your health and that you could add things to your house like a side garage, another level of rooms, a fire escape. Ypu would be able to pick if you want the building to be a buisness or a house.

It would also be cool if you could customize other vehicles like helicopters, motorbikes, boats,

There may be jet skis in the game because people do go out on jet skis on the hudson and jet skis were in vice city stories. so rockstar may bring it back in GTA IV.

I really like the house customization idea, as well as the jet skis. Those would both be great additions.

AvatarMike17
07-12-2007, 12:54 PM
Jet skis would be fun, but can Niko swim? If not, does he get a life vest? water wings?lol

manodemidas
07-12-2007, 03:58 PM
I don't know if this was in one of the "stories" (never played them) but it would be cool to have somewhere to save your boats, a boat garage...

Jimmy_86
07-13-2007, 08:41 AM
That would be cool, but only worthwhile if IV involves a significant portion of water based gameplay (unlike III). Just letting you know, there were no boat garages in the stories.

I kind of doubt Jet-skis would be in simply because it doesn't seem like the sort of vehicle you see in NYC, although I wouldn't mind if they were, you never know...

Mighty D.R.
07-13-2007, 11:26 PM
I know there's no planes to fly, but I would be good if the airport was fully functional and had planes taking off instead of just a huge vacant runway.

RyanEmerica13
07-14-2007, 12:01 AM
More realistic in here so I wouldnt doubt having a fully functional airport

swallowed
07-14-2007, 12:19 AM
I know there's no planes to fly, but I would be good if the airport was fully functional and had planes taking off instead of just a huge vacant runway.

They can probably do what they did with all the other games, having the plane leave/land on the airstrip like they did with all the other games. But this time, maybe the plane doesn't land and just take off a minute later, this time the plane can probably stop and you will see people walking out of the plane and towards the airport and then you would see some people going onto a different plane and it would take off.

Just a thing I would like to see in the game.

jamaican_pickle
07-14-2007, 08:32 AM
How do people feel about the idea of animals in gta. u no like people walking their dogs down the street , stray cats hanging around alley ways. and they could be shot and run over like people

Dawlish
07-14-2007, 09:01 AM
in terms of how big the realm is going to be, i bet there is boats, but i also bet that you have to eat at least once a day (maybe every two) and so since you cant bring supplies with you when you go out on a boat you only get like a day or so's sailing in before having to turn back for shore (or you can just die). that way you wont be able to undertake the mammoth crossing of the atlantic. i think there'll be an emphasis on keeping Niko alive in other ways than just shooting your way around and finding a safe house. this sort of thing was touched upon in :sa but it wasnt very realistic and basically you didnt really need to eat. ................also do people think the time passing will stay 1 second = 1 minute?

udaman
07-14-2007, 02:38 PM
R* should put in convertibles where u can put the top down using the d-pad or put it up

.:nemesis:.
07-14-2007, 02:41 PM
R* should put in convertibles where u can put the top down using the d-pad or put it up
Welcome to the forums, but isn't that the exact same thing you already made a thread (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t= 90955) for.

GaMeR_123
07-14-2007, 03:17 PM
I would really like to see car customization and swimming. Also, I think they add actual building destruction. Like, if you shot at a building (for reasons unknown) there'd be bulletholes. Basically, they should have the destruction you can make in the game Black.

AvatarMike17
07-14-2007, 04:07 PM
I would also like to see heli pads on top of skyscrapers, the problem is, is that ney york doesn't have many helipads on their buildings, In fact i think that the helipads are on the docks of manhatten.

Lettermaniac
07-14-2007, 08:00 PM
Well there were helipads atop buildings in VC and San Andreas, so now with all the abundance of skyscrapers it will surely be included.

udaman
07-14-2007, 08:44 PM
car custimization to put performance parts in your car and sound system
and just so everybody knows performance parts and sound system in your car is not ghetto i have been hearing that a lot today

AvatarMike17
07-14-2007, 09:08 PM
Well that was ok in SA, but this is different, Things Will Be Different.

numba1kkilla_oj
07-14-2007, 11:44 PM
well thats not the first time we've heard that

Originally Posted by udaman
R* should put in convertibles where u can put the top down using the d-pad or put it up

yeah thats a good idea but it would more likely be with the right analog stick, like in san andreas with the tow truck and the tractor, maybe it would just cancel the right analog stick being for the camera

AvatarMike17
07-15-2007, 10:37 AM
I wonder if there will be cruise ships, like the hudson side of midtown.

udaman
07-15-2007, 03:00 PM
can someone tell why you think car customization is a bad thing to put in gta iv i have seen customized cars in newyork helllllooooo brooklyn people its not such a bad idea come on what if you had a car in gta iv and you went to go to do a mission that involved escaping from the police but your car was sloooowww wouldn't you want to make it faster before you start the mission

AvatarMike17
07-15-2007, 03:06 PM
Ok, udaman, stop this car costimization, stop constantly posting it, it's extremely anoying, and your gonna get neg rep if you don't stop, I hope that this is your last car post for the week ok.

udaman
07-15-2007, 03:10 PM
Ok, udaman, stop this car costimization, stop constantly posting it, it's extremely anoying, and your gonna get neg rep if you don't stop, I hope that this is your last car post for the week ok.
hell no its not this is a wishlist and i can put what ever i want about gta iv on it:evil3:

AvatarMike17
07-15-2007, 03:13 PM
You've put this topic on over half a dozen threads, one had to be closed by Asif, DON'T GO looking for trouble, OK.

udaman
07-15-2007, 03:26 PM
You've put this topic on over half a dozen threads, one had to be closed by Asif, DON'T GO looking for trouble, OK.
you'll see gta is realistic now so when it comes out and you play it and your driving a slow car and the police get you and you get pissed off dont say i didn't tell you ok:mad: :smash: :laugh:

AvatarMike17
07-15-2007, 03:31 PM
Dude, the cops in GTA are stupid, a slow car won't get you caught, not to mention you can fool them into driving into water, pure suicide, besides, SA was to much at its time, This game is close to perfect, and I say that because there is no such thing as perfection

udaman
07-15-2007, 03:38 PM
Dude, the cops in GTA are stupid, a slow car won't get you caught, not to mention you can fool them into driving into water, pure suicide, besides, SA was to much at its time, This game is close to perfect, and I say that because there is no such thing as perfection
but they said its realistic and the police AI is better so maybe there not so dumb this time you saw the second trailer the cops was following niko and then they chased him he only got away cause he ditched the car when he was out of their sight and his car was a muscle car so its fast thats why if it was slow he would have got caught:laugh:

AvatarMike17
07-15-2007, 03:40 PM
How the hell will they catch him in the first place, they can't bust him while he's driving, dididi

The Shy Child.
07-15-2007, 03:44 PM
Well I think that car customization would be good. ok. I dont know why people dont want car customization in the game. It would make gameplay so much better so if you are telling me that if car customization was in the game. you would be mad and angry and want it out.

udaman
07-15-2007, 03:48 PM
Well I think that car customization would be good. ok. I dont know why people dont want car customization in the game. It would make gameplay so much better so if you are telling me that if car customization was in the game. you would be mad and angry and want it out.
thank you someone who undestands:angel:

udaman
07-15-2007, 03:49 PM
How the hell will they catch him in the first place, they can't bust him while he's driving, dididi
they'll do a pit maneuver and then bust him

AvatarMike17
07-15-2007, 03:53 PM
ok, you can just shut up, and get back to the wish list, I think that you should get an M203 when you enter a barracks truck, or a patroit humvee.

udaman
07-15-2007, 03:54 PM
ok, you can just shut up, and get back to the wish list, I think that you should get an M203 when you enter a barracks truck, or a patroit humvee.
wait a damn minute you talking to me or him

udaman
07-15-2007, 04:02 PM
look at the official gta iv misc. wishlist

The Shy Child.
07-15-2007, 04:03 PM
I would like it if the had a civilian humvee. That would be the coolest car to customize in the game. It would awsome if you can hire a driver for about £250 a day. you could call him on your phone and he will pull up rigth next to you. you get in the back and then the map pops up and you pin point where you want to go. and it wont be the same as in saints row. he will automaticily go the shortest route and he will go the same speed as everybody else and stop at lights and stuff. that would be cool

AvatarMike17
07-15-2007, 04:05 PM
No double posting, didn't Asif tell you to edit posts, and hiring a driver would be kick @$$, awsome man, great idea.

udaman
07-15-2007, 04:07 PM
No double posting, didn't Asif tell you to edit posts, and hiring a driver would be kick @$$, awsome man, great idea.
JUST LOOK AT IT I TRIED TO EDIT DIDNT WORK

AvatarMike17
07-15-2007, 04:09 PM
Please don't caps lock all your words, thank you.

Rossoneri
07-15-2007, 04:17 PM
I put this in another wishlist that will probably be locked soon so I'll post it in this legit wishlist:

How about a search engine on the internet so, for example, you could type suites and you would get the links to all the stores that sell suites in the game and then download the location on your cell phone so a marker would show up on your map showing the stores location. The search engine would have links to all the site in game.

AvatarMike17
07-15-2007, 04:19 PM
Great idea, hope its included, did you post that in the internet one.

comics22
07-15-2007, 08:31 PM
great now we go shopping on our phones! lol when did everybody all of a sidden care about what the charachter is wearing? i hope you guys dont go changing his clothes every time u play...

lol i agree with what shy child said up there about the car customizing. i still dunno why people say " oh nikko wouldnt be the type of person to customize a car!" lol hes not even reaL! and youve seen what? a total of like 2 minutes of him? i laugh at you! lol i would at least want to be able to select a car color and maybe ad pinstripes or somehitng to it. maybe lower it some or raise it (not hydro or airbag every thing just static drop or raise it)

swallowed
07-15-2007, 08:37 PM
^I agree with that, Tommy Vercetti wasn't the type of guy that you saw driving around in a car with hydraulics, yet he was still able to drive the Voodoo which sometimes had hydraulics included with it.

Like you said, even if you could just change the car color would be alright for me. But if they did want to include something to add to your vehicle, I would like to see the return of Nitros. I loved nitros in San Andreas just because they would make me do some crazy jumps and stunts and I liked doing Insane Stunts in all the GTA's.

C-Bullets
07-15-2007, 08:46 PM
I would like to see most places interactive. I like how San Andreas had more indoor location's but I'd like to see more places available to go in.

AvatarMike17
07-15-2007, 09:18 PM
Yeah, your right there, nice to go in alot of the places in star junction.

Jimmy_86
07-16-2007, 07:09 AM
I was hoping they may include some playable arcade as they did in SA however since it's set in 2007 the games would have to be much more advanced, although you do still see old arcade games around.

Imagine some sort of arcade game which could be played online (real life online) with other players. This could be a way to include some interesting gameplay (on and offline) whch wouldn't normally fit in a GTA setting.

Dawlish
07-16-2007, 07:58 AM
thats a cool thing. anyone ever played astro lander on timesplitters 2? or geometry wars on pgr2? best games ever rockstar seem to have dropped the 'personalised charachteristics' of the game in favour of an absorbing story line.

AvatarMike17
07-16-2007, 09:32 AM
You were also able to play the home game system in SA. Mabey we might be able to play a more advanced home system.

smooth
07-16-2007, 11:03 AM
Why would you want crappy games in an awesome game?

Just close GTA and play flash games :|

AvatarMike17
07-16-2007, 11:30 AM
I thought that this was a wishlist, not a disslist.

lilduffelbagboy
07-16-2007, 12:35 PM
they probably put tha old GTAs in tha arcade since u can get them free on r*'s site

Zidane
07-16-2007, 12:58 PM
That would be pretty cool, actually. Imagine if they included GTA1 or 2 with online gameplay again :)

AvatarMike17
07-16-2007, 02:05 PM
Would be fun to play gta in gta

smooth
07-16-2007, 02:18 PM
Putting the whole game in it is a little too much, but they could make a couple of blocks where you run around with the old flamethrower burning peds.

AvatarMike17
07-16-2007, 02:21 PM
ok, like i did on another thread, lets gt on to a new topic

smooth
07-16-2007, 04:36 PM
ok, like i did on another thread, lets gt on to a new topic

Yeah...you're the boss. :rolleyes:

AvatarMike17
07-16-2007, 04:38 PM
Ahhh, no, im not, but staying on one topic to long gets really boring, if you havent notice.

lilduffelbagboy
07-16-2007, 09:11 PM
how about how tha bodily damage is goin to be since a reporter confirmed it after he seen tha demo

gta4crazy1
07-16-2007, 09:50 PM
i would like to see different types of cop cars for each level. like the original crown vic as 1. 2 like gto type (new style), 3 charger type( new style) 4 swat van and truck would be cool, 5 cia cop hummer anyone? and 6 would be cool like nsa or homeland security

edit: even though its way not likely, still i would like to see

AvatarMike17
07-16-2007, 10:07 PM
I would like to see the army actally use the cannon, on the tank.

Jimmy_86
07-16-2007, 10:08 PM
Why would you want crappy games in an awesome game?

Just close GTA and play flash games :|
This game isn't set in 1992 when games were a lot less complicated. I'm not talking about an arcade game like space invaders, I mean something that's current for a 2007 game.

That would be pretty cool, actually. Imagine if they included GTA1 or 2 with online gameplay again :)
Now THAT would be awesome! :D

lilduffelbagboy
07-16-2007, 10:58 PM
i hope u can go can rob stores a lil like Vice city except u can take everything clothes and jewelry

AvatarMike17
07-16-2007, 10:59 PM
NICE, I think it would be awsome if you could do that in Star Junction

lilduffelbagboy
07-16-2007, 11:07 PM
hell yea but u think somebody other than hobos will be out late

AvatarMike17
07-17-2007, 07:52 AM
hell yea but u think somebody other than hobos will be out late

Huh? I don't quite get it.

lilduffelbagboy
07-17-2007, 12:32 PM
tha developers said that u get stars only when peds spot u doin a bad deed

AvatarMike17
07-17-2007, 12:35 PM
What does that have to do with hobos?

lilduffelbagboy
07-17-2007, 08:46 PM
hobos are peds so they will see u do tha crime since they probably all ova LC

AvatarMike17
07-17-2007, 08:49 PM
Yeah, but why would hobos be in Star Junction?

Enemyinsurgent
07-17-2007, 09:08 PM
That would be funny if there was a "Naked Cowboy" type character around Star Junction. Maybe "Nude Cowboy". The guitar covering up his crotch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_Cowboy

AvatarMike17
07-17-2007, 09:10 PM
Be even better if we could kill him, and there should be other street performers in star junction.

swallowed
07-17-2007, 09:39 PM
Be even better if we could kill him, and there should be other street performers in star junction.

That would be nice, just walking down the street and seeing a man playing a guitar and you can give him a tip or two. I would like to see that in IV

lilduffelbagboy
07-17-2007, 09:40 PM
what if they made an underground fight club but that'll only be good if they revamp tha fighting system san andreas' was shallow

AvatarMike17
07-17-2007, 09:51 PM
Good ideas guys, keep um com'in

comics22
07-17-2007, 11:22 PM
wonder if they will have different types of cop cars... around me the state police has ford explorers, early 2000's crown vics, 94ish capreces, and the 2000 impallas. instead of all being the same type of car.

AvatarMike17
07-17-2007, 11:58 PM
hummm, very fun, i Would love to have impalas too!

numba1kkilla_oj
07-18-2007, 09:09 AM
what if the in-game arcades were more advanced, it would be cool to play GTA 1 and 2 in full or even a few missions on the playable arcade systems

m_richy66
07-18-2007, 09:10 AM
markets to shop in.

AvatarMike17
07-18-2007, 09:47 AM
Stores in star junction, very fun!

lilduffelbagboy
07-18-2007, 10:41 PM
u can rob stores too all i need now is me and my girlfriend robing stores hope u can rob banks

manodemidas
07-19-2007, 08:20 PM
I thought of this a few days ago, while on the street: Sitting. It would be really cool (and useful) to sit down in a park bench and "organize" your weapons and stuff, before going into a mission, for example. Then you would stand up and get to your objective and do the dirty work :D

AvatarMike17
07-19-2007, 08:30 PM
Nice idea, its good, weird though

Comeback209
07-19-2007, 09:34 PM
I still think it would fun to see some other guy walking down the street with a duffel bag, acting normal, then all of a sudden pulls out an AK and starts popping people in the street, then hops into a car and just takes off, running Peds over like I would. We shouldn't be the only psychos in the city.

BlackSilver65
07-19-2007, 10:01 PM
I havn't read any of this forum, so I'm bound to repeat things so just bear with me.

I want much better police A.I.
I want to have a lot missions where Niko wheres Ski Masks. I love them. they look super awesome
I want to have police in riot gear. that looks awesome too, with nightsticks and all that
I want to see people having ragdoll physics. Realistic ones to like the ones from Rainbow Six: Vegas
I want to see more effective police tactics, like flanking and ramming your vehicle.
More ski masks.
less weapons, How often do you find a Ak-47 in the middle of an ally? or a Tech 9 under a bridge?
Missions that involve more thinking
less money.
Maybe after you murder someone or something, and someone sees you, the give the police a drawing and
people would recognize you and run in fear/call the police.
Better damage, I would like to have the feel of like actually killing someone, so i dont have to go out and see if it
really takes 13 bullets to kill someone ( just a joke )
Even more ski masks
More types of pistols
Being able to kidnap anyone at anytime. Being able to call his family with your celly and ask for a randsom
Spider webs that come from your wrist (not really)
Being able to get a companion like in Oblivion. Roll out on some foo's
Less action, there was to much blowing up stuff and robbing casinos. i mean can you really rob a casino and
escape? or blow a apartment up without the FBI taking you down lol?
A few more ski masks
People who want to kill you, I'm sure not everyone is going to love Niko, it'd be awesome to have people who
hunt you down like in LCS when Ma cipriani orders the hit on you and they come after you every
now and, but no little box informing you. That'd be fun.
Perhaps other people who kill, like some gang that's not relative to you at all kills people sometime in ally
ways or somthing, and if you see them do it or piss them off they'll start hunting you down
This is quite long so i'll stop for now. Whatchya think?

BlackSilver65
07-19-2007, 10:03 PM
I still think it would fun to see some other guy walking down the street with a duffel bag, acting normal, then all of a sudden pulls out an AK and starts popping people in the street, then hops into a car and just takes off, running Peds over like I would. We shouldn't be the only psychos in the city.


Sorry for the double post, but i LOVE that idea
It'd be so amazing
it's not the first time i've seen it, but i totally agree
is there really only one guy who kills people in new york city?
I'd love that so much haha

comics22
07-20-2007, 12:11 AM
I still think it would fun to see some other guy walking down the street with a duffel bag, acting normal, then all of a sudden pulls out an AK and starts popping people in the street, then hops into a car and just takes off, running Peds over like I would. We shouldn't be the only psychos in the city.


lol i agree with this. lol then you could follow the cop chase and he will crash and prolly get yanked out of his car and handcuffed and put in the back of a cop car. now THAT would be sweet:evil3:

lilduffelbagboy
07-20-2007, 09:09 AM
lol i agree with this. lol then you could follow the cop chase and he will crash and prolly get yanked out of his car and handcuffed and put in the back of a cop car. now THAT would be sweet:evil3:
naw they probably shoot up his car and pump his ass full of lead that would be good if they had the drivin like Mafia only wit tha bodily damage like u can shoot through tha doors of a car to kill someone or if u hit a building or get flipped u get hurt and your character model shows it

swallowed
07-20-2007, 10:35 AM
naw they probably shoot up his car and pump his ass full of lead that would be good if they had the drivin like Mafia only wit tha bodily damage like u can shoot through tha doors of a car to kill someone or if u hit a building or get flipped u get hurt and your character model shows it

If Niko had low health, I would like to see his body show it. They did that with the Warriors, when you were nearly dead your body was always battered,bruised,bloodied,etc. Maybe they can do this with Niko. It could probably slow him down too. (For example, if you had about 20% health left, Niko probably won't be as swift or fast as he would normally be.)

lilduffelbagboy
07-20-2007, 08:20 PM
yea a reporter said that on tha part of tha demos when Niko was fightin his way out of Goldberg's office he came outside battered showin bodily damage so i hope the developers keep this in tha final game

m_richy66
07-21-2007, 01:29 AM
Niko was fightin his way out of Goldberg's office he came outside battered showin bodily damage so i hope the developers keep this in tha final game

They should. Manhunt had the same sort of thing as well as the Warriors. By the looks of this game R* is trying to make it as real as possible so expect the unexpected.

I want to do something in the safe houses. In SA all you could really do was stand there and play the odd video game. It would be cool to view T.V (Like in Max Payne 2 but way better) or use a computer. This is something GTA has lacked when you are in your safe houses.

Ian
07-21-2007, 01:53 AM
They should. Manhunt had the same sort of thing as well as the Warriors. By the looks of this game R* is trying to make it as real as possible so expect the unexpected.

I want to do something in the safe houses. In SA all you could really do was stand there and play the odd video game. It would be cool to view T.V (Like in Max Payne 2 but way better) or use a computer. This is something GTA has lacked when you are in your safe houses.

Great idea.

Then again, aside from GTA3, the rest are set in a time when you can't use a computer (well not to many people at least).

For GTA4, perhaps you can also use the computer to search for extra mission jobs on classifieds online, or such...

aside from the cellphone of course.

lilduffelbagboy
07-21-2007, 09:49 PM
yea most likely they will since computers are one of tha most important aspects of tha game next to tha cell phone and they said most of tha computers will have internet

Lettermaniac
07-22-2007, 01:41 AM
I'd quite like the use of bank accounts, and even ATMs.

You could set aside cash into an account simply for guns, or simply for car customization, or whatever. You could withdraw anything from an ATM, and only loose what cash you have on you when you die or get busted, unless it's large and they just take a small percent of it.

smooth
07-22-2007, 07:47 AM
I'd quite like the use of bank accounts, and even ATMs.

You could set aside cash into an account simply for guns, or simply for car customization, or whatever. You could withdraw anything from an ATM, and only loose what cash you have on you when you die or get busted, unless it's large and they just take a small percent of it.

I believe I read somewhere that while walking past an ATM machine it said: "Press X to Deposit" or something like that.

Lettermaniac
07-22-2007, 10:41 PM
Ahh yeah, I think I remember that now. Great news, that's an inventive feature.

udaman
07-25-2007, 05:32 PM
autotrader on tw@cafe to buy vehicles

AvatarMike17
07-25-2007, 07:31 PM
machine guns on tanks

Ian
07-25-2007, 09:45 PM
I'm thinking that ATMs will only get in the way of gameplay. The current cash system is good enough, though not that realistic.

What do others think?

swallowed
07-25-2007, 11:04 PM
I'm thinking that ATMs will only get in the way of gameplay. The current cash system is good enough, though not that realistic.

What do others think?

I think that there will be more things to buy now so it will keep the money system balanced.

There are clothes now, which one of the outfits is $1000 and a pair of shoes for $200, I think clothes will cost much more money than in San Andreas this time around.

It seems that the weapons system will be different as well, buy weapons for $100 a piece, not too different but you will have to buy ammo more because it seems that weapons are much more harder to find than in previous games.

Also, you can buy meals like in San Andreas, but it doesn't cost too much.

I think there will be a different variety of things to buy now than before.

Don't know if this has been mentioned before but if you die, I would like to see the icon where you get your weapons back for an amount of money like in Vice City Stories. But instead of it being $2000 all the time, I think it should cost the ammount of all the guns plus the ammo you bought to be summed up and you have to pay for it all.

udaman
07-25-2007, 11:37 PM
i hope vehicle customization in iv looks like this
http://www.gtagaming.com/viewshot.php?i=/images/gt aiv/fakes/fake15.jpg

Bfett21
07-25-2007, 11:43 PM
I hope there is no vehicle customization

udaman
07-25-2007, 11:44 PM
why and do you have a youtube account if you do click on my sig

Bfett21
07-26-2007, 12:00 AM
I find it to be tedious and boring, I'm not into car customization, i hate people who need dropped cars, and spinninf rims, and tail fins, and spoilers. This game isn't about living an urban lifestyle, this is a different breed of dog. You know? San Andreas was fine, it fit who CJ was, Nikolai isn't a thug, he's just a guy who is on a quest.

Ian
07-26-2007, 05:04 AM
Car customization is optional in SA if I recall? I like car customisation, especially the nitrous, helps in dealing with the police and some side race missions. I hope it's in there just for the fun of it, but not a necessity in missions. Chop shops should be around.. after all, it's called Grand Theft AUTO.

Bfett21
07-26-2007, 05:06 AM
Yes, which means stealing cars, not suping them up.

AvatarMike17
07-26-2007, 08:41 AM
I'm not one to speak on car costimization, but may we change the subject, its boring because its been talked about on 10 threads, so to change the subject, I would like to see the guginhiman museum, does anyone know if it will be included.

Bfett21
07-26-2007, 09:08 AM
I'm not one to speak on car costimization, but may we change the subject, its boring because its been talked about on 10 threads, so to change the subject, I would like to see the guginhiman museum, does anyone know if it will be included.

I don't know if the Guggenheim museum will be included or not. Would it be nice? Of course, maybe we will see it, unfortunatley I don't think an interior would be available. Just imagine Burgling that place.

AvatarMike17
07-26-2007, 01:57 PM
I don't know if the Guggenheim museum will be included or not. Would it be nice? Of course, maybe we will see it, unfortunatley I don't think an interior would be available. Just imagine Burgling that place.

OH man, that would be awsome, great idea.

Pea
07-27-2007, 12:44 PM
I would love their to be animals in it like dogs that you could set onto people or horses you could ride.

AvatarMike17
07-27-2007, 01:16 PM
I would love if we could go on top of the Empire State Building, Or the GE Building(rockefeller center), or even go inside the Winter Garden.

gta4crazy1
07-27-2007, 07:19 PM
even though i have stated it, i would like to see parachutes since the buildings are so tall. base jumping off of the empire state building, that would be awesome.

Ivanaj
07-27-2007, 08:02 PM
1. Better first person view when driving (i wanna see the steering wheel, dashboard, window like in the trailer)
2. Ability to climb ladders, trees, (hanging off of fire escapes and branches while waiting to jump someone)
3. Weapon customization (put on or take off silencer on pistol, laser sights, scopes)
3. Purchasing of vehicles if you wanna get a rare/hard to find one
4. If you purchase weapons legally you get background checked which takes a couple days (sucks to be a felon)
5. Police Issue tickets and search/arrest warrants (if your seen committing crimes)
6. Real world prices and payments (Driving someone 5 blocks down the street won't get you like $5000)

swallowed
07-27-2007, 09:41 PM
^2. I think it has been confirmed that Niko is able to climb latters and such, in a demo he is saw climbing a telephone pole to get a spectacular view, so I think the ability to climb is in..

Gui
07-27-2007, 10:16 PM
I want paintball guns... i know it's stupid but i always wanted to paint a cop's car and then shoot him in the ass :evil3:

abacacus
07-27-2007, 10:24 PM
just how good are the driving physics? will cars do wheelies? i have so much wanted to drag my bumper in front of a cop and see what he does! or, smoke some guy in a tuner in a race!

nataskapaus
07-27-2007, 10:28 PM
Why the hell would you want cars to do wheelie?

And this isint need for speed, i dont think there will be races ...

BlackSilver65
07-27-2007, 10:47 PM
Why the hell would you want cars to do wheelie?

And this isint need for speed, i dont think there will be races ...

You serouisily don't think there will be races lol? In the last three there have been MANY races. i don't know much about 1 or 2, but i kinow there were alot of racing. There's bound to some races. I'm sure there wont be tons, but there probably will be some underground races to scrap up some cash.
The game has a heavy basis on cars, they cant just drop racing. that'd be weird
I never cared for it, i never do the races, but why would they just bump em?

gta4crazy1
07-28-2007, 02:58 PM
i would like to see people actually react to rain. like bring an umbrella on a cloudy day, or see someone put on a rain jacket when it starts to rain. i would also like to see no motorcycles when raining. who honestly rides on a rainy day.and if we do see them, they should at least have like actual rain gear on.

abacacus
07-28-2007, 03:39 PM
Why the hell would you want cars to do wheelie?

And this isint need for speed, i dont think there will be races ...
set up an online race:eek:

also, the cool factor! peel away doing a wheelie and see the peds gasp at you!
watch the fat cop on the corner drop his doughnut!
watch the kid in the ricer try to rev on you!
also, what about stunts? wheelie off a ramp and land on the front wheels, try to wheelie over a car
land your wheelie on a guys head
wheelie into the ocean
wheelie into the depths of hell!
wheelie of a building!
its endless!

BlackSilver65
07-28-2007, 03:42 PM
Wheelie into the depths of hell lmfao, that's great man. Wheelies rock, and as i said, no way races will be dropped

abacacus
07-28-2007, 03:46 PM
Wheelie into the depths of hell lmfao, that's great man. Wheelies rock, and as i said, no way races will be dropped
i was grasping for straws at that point.

on topic:
any chance of being able to dropkick people, ideas come in my head for guys on buildings.

gta4crazy1
07-28-2007, 09:03 PM
i would like to see niko being able to still interact with the characters after the game is beaten. i dont really like how after you beat it, you dont see the characters any more. you should be able to call them up and like do drive bys or whatever you felt like doing. i would like to see that

abacacus
07-28-2007, 09:54 PM
the ability to use anything and everything as a weapon, like dead rising with about 20 times as many weapons.

AvatarMike17
07-30-2007, 04:19 PM
It would be awsome to buy an apartment in manhatten, like in times square, and financial. Even being able to purchase tall commercial offices(not the whole building, but a couple of floors).

FG
07-30-2007, 07:26 PM
Im gonna wish for Nikio to have an in-game Nick-name like all the rest of our beloved GTA protagonist.

Hmmm ..maybe it'll be , * N i c *

abacacus
07-30-2007, 07:54 PM
Im gonna wish for Nikio to have an in-game Nick-name like all the rest of our beloved GTA protagonist.

Hmmm ..maybe it'll be , * N i c *

Niko is a nickname, his real name is nikolai.
btw way, niko, not nikio.

Tyler
07-30-2007, 09:40 PM
i would like to see people actually react to rain. like bring an umbrella on a cloudy day, or see someone put on a rain jacket when it starts to rain. i would also like to see no motorcycles when raining. who honestly rides on a rainy day.and if we do see them, they should at least have like actual rain gear on.
IDIOTS ride on a rainy day.

im getting a Mo-Ped soon, but never riding it in the rain.

gta4crazy1
07-30-2007, 10:50 PM
yea but other than that, you never see anyone riding in the rain. it was retarded in SA, its pouring down rain and you pass like 10 motorcycles. very unrealistic

swallowed
07-31-2007, 12:16 AM
One thing that I would like to see is Bikes getting damaged. In the past GTA's, the bike would only smoke and then catch fire and blow up and you never saw any damage to the bike at all and it just smoked if you crashed a few times. In GTA IV, I would like to see the bikes get damaged (e.g. the front gets bashed in, seats tear up, etc.)

Just a thought...

abacacus
07-31-2007, 01:02 AM
sorry to curse, but i want to know if im the only one that wants to stick a gun into some poor motherfuckers mouth and pull the trigger?

Bfett21
07-31-2007, 02:05 AM
I believe you are.

Dawlish
08-01-2007, 08:10 AM
me too. -------------------- i want horrendous traffic jams, and car draw distance as far as the eye can see

AvatarMike17
08-01-2007, 10:42 AM
Any one want highways again.

gta4crazy1
08-01-2007, 11:45 PM
haha, yea highways and crazy ass drivers!!! haha

ivar87
08-02-2007, 04:14 AM
sorry to curse, but i want to know if im the only one that wants to stick a gun into some poor motherfuckers mouth and pull the trigger?
No you're not the only one.
And we are not the only two, there are a poopload of people who want to do just that.
^^

gta4crazy1
08-02-2007, 11:06 AM
haha, i think this has been mentioned, but i hope they bring back the break neck thing like on VCS, that was really cool.

AvatarMike17
08-02-2007, 12:45 PM
That was metioned, but im with you, I just love snaping peoples neck, the best part is when you check your stats, you see necks snaped on there LOL.

gta4crazy1
08-02-2007, 07:39 PM
there better be some intense shootouts now since it will be coming on in 08. this better be spectacular. everything better be glowing. lol...

Lisitza
08-02-2007, 07:45 PM
my wish is that it would come out in october as planned

abacacus
08-02-2007, 09:14 PM
who knows, this could a marketing ploy, imagine th rush if they anounced it was only a week delay so it would be out on the 23'rd come october 16'th? people would be buying pre orders left right and centre!

euromann
08-04-2007, 08:05 AM
What I want is:
- Airplanes
- Good Music.. especially Trance.

That's pretty much it. LOL

swallowed
08-05-2007, 01:53 PM
What I want is:
- Airplanes
- Good Music.. especially Trance.

That's pretty much it. LOL

Well, there are no airplanes in the game that you can fly but there are still helicopters in the game so not all means of air travel is gone.

Flasher
08-07-2007, 03:34 AM
Dunno did anybody allready wish for it, but i would like to see how Love Fist is doing ;)

swallowed
08-07-2007, 10:55 AM
Dunno did anybody allready wish for it, but i would like to see how Love Fist is doing ;)

Rockstar already said that characters from the other games weren't going to be seen in IV, but it would be nice if you could hear something about them on the radio or there is a little homage to them like there was in San Andreas and Liberty City Stories..

AvatarMike17
08-07-2007, 02:08 PM
I would like to see some famous places, like the plaza hotel, citigroup center, the UN, if possible.

Bfett21
08-10-2007, 04:46 AM
you know, i'm going to get shit for this, but i hope niko is actually a member of a russian agency and this is all his job to find and expose some ring in Liberty. Could be a fun depature for GTA

Jimmy_86
08-12-2007, 01:48 AM
With all the talk about how great the new gunplay/targeting system is I really hope this doesn't make GTA more shooting focused (gameplay wise) than previous GTA's.

euromann
08-12-2007, 10:35 AM
Highways with crazy fast drivers would be good.
- Highways that are very long
- Lots of routes through the highway

Gui
08-12-2007, 12:35 PM
Bring back the Casinos... I'm addicted to Blackjack in San Andreas :D

Reddyfire
08-12-2007, 01:11 PM
Lots of missions to keep me busy.
More side jobs that are fun or mission based not stuff like vigilante or Paramedic missions. Perhaps like a Hitman side job like the phone jobs in Vice City but make them more realistic.
Customizable weapons maybe the ability to customize weapons with silencers and different kinds of scopes.
More realistic none of the crap where if you kill someone in an alley way and no one else is around you get a wanted level.
If you have a wanted level have SWAT teams come into the building after you and have snipers around the perimeter. Maybe even have Hunters come after you when you get the army on you.
Have cops chase other people it wasn't as realistic in San Andreas. Like if a gang shoots at you and the cops are around have them go after them.
Have cops go after you if you run a red light or go too fast. Would be stupid in GTA but it would be fun if you got pulled over and got tickets and you could get out and fight with the cops.
The ability to be a passenger would also be a nice feature especially if you could get someone to fly a helicopter for you.
The Ability to destroy buildings is a must.

flupo1727
08-12-2007, 05:52 PM
dont know if ts been mentioned but if someone says dey want u dead someone actually from time to time comes after u

like in San Andreas after u rob caligulas palace salvatorie calls u and and says ur as good as dead but no one ever comes after u

Bfett21
08-12-2007, 09:37 PM
Bigfoot.

Dawlish
08-13-2007, 09:46 AM
missions to be more varied. not just drive, shoot, pick someone up, shoot, drop them off, chase someone on a bike, shoot, then cutscene. one of the reasons why saints row falls down in my eyes is that if you've done one mission you've pretty much done them all.also, all windows should be smashable. and there should be a wide selection of 'unfortunates' i.e. bums.

The_Patient
08-13-2007, 09:58 AM
Suicide from the Empire State Building. With realistic splatter animations.

gtamonster
08-13-2007, 07:25 PM
the biggest wish that i have for gta 4 is definatly better multiplayer. there should be splitscreen free roam and rampages, and the ability for both player 1 and 2 to drive different cars at the same time, with no distance limit bullshit.

also, i noticed that there isnt enough cars in the gta series. these are supposed to be big cities, and there are only a few cars scattered everywhere! that would deffinitly make the game seem more realistic.

AvatarMike17
08-13-2007, 07:57 PM
the biggest wish that i have for gta 4 is definatly better multiplayer. there should be splitscreen free roam and rampages, and the ability for both player 1 and 2 to drive different cars at the same time, with no distance limit bullshit.

also, i noticed that there isnt enough cars in the gta series. these are supposed to be big cities, and there are only a few cars scattered everywhere! that would deffinitly make the game seem more realistic.

Yeah, i would love to have a mltiplayer better than the past, good idea, and welcome to the forums:)

gta4crazy1
08-14-2007, 05:00 PM
i believe it was mentioned, but actually hear about your crime on the radio, or hear about a crime that happened from some one else. that would be cool

swallowed
08-14-2007, 10:10 PM
i believe it was mentioned, but actually hear about your crime on the radio, or hear about a crime that happened from some one else. that would be cool

I remember that they had similar things on the radios in GTA's like Liberty City Stories. After certain missions (e.g. the missions for Father Ned), when you completed them and got into a car, you would hear an announcement about the crime you just made. I liked that feature in Liberty City Stories and I found it quite interesting.

I would like to see that return in GTA IV, but this time around I would like to go on a crazy rampage and later jack a car and hear an announcement about what had just happened. I think that it would be a nice little addition to GTA IV..

ivar87
08-15-2007, 10:11 AM
The radio thing was in SanAn too (when you we're doing missions with Catalina)

gta4crazy1
08-15-2007, 01:18 PM
yes but i would like to hear about it more than just from missions..

AvatarMike17
08-15-2007, 01:29 PM
I remember that they had similar things on the radios in GTA's like Liberty City Stories. After certain missions (e.g. the missions for Father Ned), when you completed them and got into a car, you would hear an announcement about the crime you just made. I liked that feature in Liberty City Stories and I found it quite interesting.

I would like to see that return in GTA IV, but this time around I would like to go on a crazy rampage and later jack a car and hear an announcement about what had just happened. I think that it would be a nice little addition to GTA IV..

It started in VC with the hurricane warning, and then they modified it to SA, VCS, LCS. Hope it will be in IV also.

Alpha_Red
08-18-2007, 07:34 PM
I seriously miss the moped :(

And im also kind of iffy on the no airplanes beside the dodo. Hopefully the dodo will actually..fly this time.

Actually the dodo isnt going to be in there is it?.. well then i wish there would be a flyable dodo lol.

Jimmy_86
08-20-2007, 06:23 AM
I seriously miss the moped :(
Do you mean the Faggio?

Because I'm pretty sure that's been in every 3D GTA game since GTA:VC, you could only be missing it by not playing GTA :P.

Since it's been mentioned there's an in game internet, could there also be an in game phone system. Not just a contacts list, that has been confirmed on Niko's cellphone, but actually the ability to dial any number. Perhaps in a mission you would have to make a call from a payphone so they couldn't trace your call back to you. Plus you could see and so dial a phone number on a billboard say, for something like a pizza delivery service or to phone order some items for delivery to your safe house.

moparpower383
08-20-2007, 06:32 AM
Do you mean the Faggio?

Because I'm pretty sure that's been in every 3D GTA game since GTA:VC, you could only be missing it by not playing GTA :P.

Since it's been mentioned there's an in game internet, could there also be an in game phone system. Not just a contacts list, that has been confirmed on Niko's cellphone, but actually the ability to dial any number. Perhaps in a mission you would have to make a call from a payphone so they couldn't trace your call back to you. Plus you could see and so dial a phone number on a billboard say, for something like a pizza delivery service or to phone order some items for delivery to your safe house.
Yeah or you could use it to prank call people.
Niko: Hello? Is your refrigerator running??
^^^^Need I say more?

Jimmy_86
08-20-2007, 06:40 AM
You could even call 911 if there was some crime happening or as a distraction while some associates make their getaway on the other side of town (Don't do this in real life kids!).

It could work as long as you're not on the most wanted list. :P

AvatarMike17
08-20-2007, 06:52 AM
Hello, it is GTA. I wish you can go inside the GE building.

Alpha_Red
08-20-2007, 03:04 PM
Do you mean the Faggio?

Because I'm pretty sure that's been in every 3D GTA game since GTA:VC, you could only be missing it by not playing GTA :P.

Since it's been mentioned there's an in game internet, could there also be an in game phone system. Not just a contacts list, that has been confirmed on Niko's cellphone, but actually the ability to dial any number. Perhaps in a mission you would have to make a call from a payphone so they couldn't trace your call back to you. Plus you could see and so dial a phone number on a billboard say, for something like a pizza delivery service or to phone order some items for delivery to your safe house.

Seriously? Wow, i must not have playes SA for a long while. I dont remember it being in SA. :confused: Well then scratch that.

manodemidas
08-22-2007, 09:00 AM
Mmm... Pizza delivery...

I hope Zombotech building is back lol

I'd also like to see the ability to grab onto trucks (maybe tankers), strafing towards driver's door, taking him out of the cabin and then take control of the truck, while it's still moving

dsdesign
08-24-2007, 09:31 PM
PIMPIN'!!!!

Havok
08-24-2007, 09:36 PM
ooohh boy you fucked up there.
one word post, spam, and off topic.

but back on topic, i hope there is a Heat like shootout.

LordLeverette
08-24-2007, 09:53 PM
I hope you can jump from rooftop to rooftop or "acquire" a helicopter and snipe from a rooftop position

Or more basically, I hope rooftops play a good part in gameplay.

dsdesign
08-25-2007, 12:18 AM
ooohh boy you fucked up there.
one word post, spam, and off topic.

but back on topic, i hope there is a Heat like shootout.



i really fucked up? lol ok. i hope they keep the pimping missions. a little upgrade would be nice, but yeah....just my two cents.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Despirited
08-25-2007, 02:40 PM
I hope you can jump from rooftop to rooftop or "acquire" a helicopter and snipe from a rooftop position

Or more basically, I hope rooftops play a good part in gameplay.

Rooftop chase/shootout that would be tight.

Old Timer
08-25-2007, 05:23 PM
Better Weather - Yes
Better Water - Yes
Better Weapons sounds - Yes
Better Vehicle Handling - Yes
Better Stealth (which I used quite a bit in GTASA) - Yes
Homies, Partners, Buddies, whatever you call them, that will hang in there for you, and fight with you - Yes
Smoother flight of Aircraft - Yes
Ability to customize vehicles - Yes
More realistic weapons choices, 25cal, 32cal, 38cal, 9mm, 45cal, 50cal, some of the best weapons - Yes
Better Aircraft, Boats - Yes
Sitting, Standing, Laying - Yes
Picking things up - Yes
Not so much Cell Phone traffic - Yes
Water dropping Fire Helicopters - Yes
Just for starters:)
OT

gta4crazy1
09-02-2007, 12:28 PM
when you say aircraft i hope you mean just copters, because that is all we will probably see.

i totally agree on the mafia or homie deal. we actually need people who can actually shoot the broad side of a barn, and not be 50 feet off. haha. i would actually like to see a couple of new cars, if not more. what would be cool to me would be instead of having the dance thing like on SA. be able to like go into bars and like play music. that would be pretty cool to me. not a lot to comment. just waiting for march to roll around.

Vinnie Pulido
09-19-2007, 02:22 PM
This elements where inspired by The Sopranos:

When you complete a mission, you can report you success back to your contact. If you do it by cellphone you get 2 star wanted level. To do it without being detected you should do it by payphone.

Kills should have more "meaning" and consequence and be less arcade. You could, for example, kidnap a man in your truck. Drive him to the woods/docks/warehouse/any deserted place. Open the trunk and shoot him in the trunk Jackie Brown style then leave the car there, or kill him and dump him in the river, or chop him up in a pork store, then you would have to go to a place to clean yourself up and dispose of the gun. If for example you arent cautious in your kills you get 3 "sparkling" stars (the same when you exit pay n' spray. A forensics team should be on the site for a while and your hits should appear on television /internet/radio/newspaper. That would be ultra cool. The more professional you get the better tools you have. Silencers, garrotes, gloves, etc... Plus you could have side missions to do that just for fun.

Terminator-UK
09-19-2007, 04:41 PM
Realistic Explosions

It was a shame to see the AT-400 not make a huge explosion.
I wanna crash a helicopter and make a big mess in the street..

Fire, Billowing Smoke, Heat waves..

AvatarMike17
09-21-2007, 05:20 PM
Realistic Explosions

It was a shame to see the AT-400 not make a huge explosion.
I wanna crash a helicopter and make a big mess in the street..

Fire, Billowing Smoke, Heat waves..

Good idea, I would like that, and see like tires on fire, and a crew that has to clean it up.

Despirited
09-23-2007, 10:56 AM
I hope Niko can do combat moves like Vincent in Collateral.

Those were some cool fighting moves he had.

Havok
09-23-2007, 11:35 AM
yeah, i hope Niko knows Commando Krav Maga, like gun disarming and knife disarming and just general badassness.

Despirited
09-23-2007, 12:33 PM
I hope they have Jujutsu classes (like boxing in SA) that you can take to form yourself into a good fighter.

In VCS you were able to grab people and snap there necks and punch them while you have a hold of them.

jwrebholz
09-24-2007, 10:03 AM
I wish it was still being released on October 16.

HaM_^
09-26-2007, 04:16 AM
aslong as it dont have auto aim im happy :)

WiM
09-26-2007, 05:41 AM
Lol, jwrebholz!!! I agree with you.

jamaican_pickle
10-01-2007, 06:56 AM
since rockstar r scratching planes from gta 4 they shood hav a lot more different types copters or maybe ,bcoz they wanted to make the city seem big , they cood hav sum slow flying aircraft like a hot air balloon or a blimp, although doesnt sound very gta .....wot do you guys think?

Old Timer
10-02-2007, 01:32 PM
since rockstar r scratching planes from gta 4 they shood hav a lot more different types copters or maybe ,bcoz they wanted to make the city seem big , they cood hav sum slow flying aircraft like a hot air balloon or a blimp, although doesnt sound very gta .....wot do u guys think?
I'm with you, more and better Helicopters and - places to get them painted and/or repaired. Wouldn't it be cool to be able to get a custom paint job on a copter:) Oh, and maybe fix them so that if you have a passanger, they can shoot. I had some fun in GTASA using the Paint and Spray in San Fierro, flying the Maverick or Sparrow into it for a paint job and engine, nicked up the blades a little though:)
OT

jamaican_pickle
10-04-2007, 07:51 AM
i just had another idea about aircraft......
coz da planes r goin, the airports(if liberty city even has an airport) are probably gunna turn into wot it waz in vice city...right......
so i think rockstar shood put a bit more effort into making da airports really realistic... as in like luggage wagons zippin around (more realistic than in sa) people gettin on and off flights, annoucements on departures nd arrivals, lights dat shine on da runway at night nd speakin of runways i belive we need a lot more than just 2... in fact i think that rockstar need to totally revamp their airport system 4 da next game cumin after gtaiv coz i cant c it happening in gtaiv.......
i sure hope rockstar is reading this thread bcoz da lot of us r cumin up wit sum great ideas
keep it up guys

smoking12
10-07-2007, 08:28 PM
I really want to see if we can buy bigger apartments or maybe a house i sure we will start with one but i want to buy one or rent one would be better like for 30,000, 500 amonth that will be very realistic if it is like.

jamaican_pickle
10-08-2007, 02:33 AM
im hoping that it wont be like gtasa and safehouses have identical interiors..... in gtaiv i want no 2 interiors to b the same

smoking12
10-09-2007, 02:01 PM
I know that was really retarded all crappy house have the same furniture.

jamaican_pickle
10-12-2007, 08:01 AM
i am so tired of playin previous gta's and havin unrealistic car crashes....in gtaiv if a niko crases a car into a brick wall i want the whole front of the car smashed in, if the car rams into a lightpost i want that damn car to be ripped in two.... and im pretty sure that when a car crashes, presuming that their not wearing a seatbelt, a person would tumble about in the car, and if there is a head-on i want niko to go flying through the windscreen then lay there wasted on the ground. This is the type of realism gtaiv needs and if gtaiv doesnt have it then hopefully... someday.........
JP

gta4crazy1
10-13-2007, 01:34 AM
saint's row did the "fly through the window" theme, it would be nice to see it put to use in GTA

jamaican_pickle
10-13-2007, 02:11 AM
it would also be cool if a person gets shot and they are standing in front of a wall,they get thrown against the wall behind them and as they collapse against the wall it smears a trail of blooddown the side of the wall....adn if they get shot in front of a window they go flying throw the glass which shatters everywhere...and witnesses will point, scream and put their hands to their mouths as they see it unfold...and not just run over to have a look at the dead body and say stuff like, "Thats America for you."
JP

Jimmy_86
10-15-2007, 09:01 AM
I may have already mentined this but I was reminded just before when playing Vice City.

I hope the audio will be able to adjust different levels for the sound effects, music & cutscenes as I never liked in the previous 3D games that turning the sfx down meant the cutscenes had to be quiet too. I prefer to hear the radio over the sound of the vehicles engine which is why I keep it lower.

tdog07029
10-15-2007, 01:52 PM
heres a few ideas

- a lot more hidden/ rare cars in the game, keeps it interesting
- you shud be able to shoot down cables and telephone wires and if it touches any1 they shud get elctrocuted and die
- really fast vehicles like dragsters, f1 cars ect
- bigger unique jumps like a draw bridge
- tanks with tracks instead of wheels and dont blow up cars on contact, also when the army comes after you they fire the cannon, but if they run over your car, youre dead
- a more realistic 1st person view when youre driving so you can see the steering wheel and inside of the car
- more ways to make your car faster and handle better
- u shud be able to use your own music to listen to while playing
- bums on the street play instruments, beg and do stuff for money
- they shud hav loan sharks and if you dont pay them back they send hitmen after you
- a lot more ways to earn and spend money
- being able to rob people instead of having to kill them, but other people shud be able to rob you too
- maybe instead of dealing drugs you cud sell stolen cars but if you sell one to an undercover cop youll get ambushed by police
- being able to carry around multiple vehicles on the packer or in the back of a 18 wheeler
- being able to get drunk like in the phil cassidy mission in vice city
- adrenaline pill works while driving
- being able to take hostages and use them as sheilds but at which point cops will use snipers so you hav to keep moving
- traffic shud be more real for example in the middle of the night the streets shud be pretty much empty while during rush hour there shud many many cars on the road. this might help on missions where u get into long car chases.
- when you hear a cop on the police radio you shud be able to go to where they are and see whats happening
- able to save at hotels and motels but itd cost you money. maybe even being able to save in a rv, so u cud save anywhere in the game
- lock-up storage places that you can buy and store stuff in, such as cars and what not
- able to climb fences, ladders ect.
- open map from the start. broken bridges and roadblocks are getin really old. r* cud think of better things to reward us with than new parts of the map which shud just be accessible from the start anyways. instead of new cities being unlocked there shud be certain buildings like clubs, storage garages, apartments ect. then after u start doin missions, meetin people and acquiring new items like keys, outfits or w/e youll be able to access them. for instance you do a mission and get a key from someone which unlocks a storage garage that has a rare sports car in it. thatd be great.
- cheat menus instead of button combos
- possibly snow?
- a special james bond like car that releases an oil slick or tacs behind it to get rid of cops
- some way of showing and saving your last unique jump. maybe hav an online leaderboard to show who has the highest stats...
- better more useful eastereggs such as:
+ keys hidden around the city that unlock things like lock-up storages
that hav rare cars, safes which hav lots of money or, apartments that
u cud use as new save points
+ phone numbers scribbled on bathroom walls or wherever that u cud
call for hidden side missions, new weapons dealers or sum guy
selling a stolen rare car. maybe every now and then it will be a setup
by the cops, and after u make the deal, cops will ambush you
- NO MORE DATING/ TURF WARS/ASSETS. that stuff is crap
- dual weilding weapons


heres a map i made as well

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8522/gta4mapnew hx8.th.png (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gta4mapn ewhx8.png)

gta4crazy1
10-15-2007, 08:20 PM
sounds amazing, but R* would have to draw the line somewhere to still make it GTA. It would almost be like the Sims or something like that if they had all the things we want/ask for. Don't get me wrong, I believe they should have all that people ask, R* just has to call something the limit

They confirmed the climbing ladders and fences I believe

AvatarMike17
10-15-2007, 08:27 PM
I wish that something about GTAIV will be on the VGA's

gta4crazy1
10-16-2007, 12:02 AM
It would be cool if we got a map of what Liberty City is going to look like.

jamaican_pickle
10-16-2007, 02:08 AM
heres a few ideas

- a lot more hidden/ rare cars in the game, keeps it interesting
- you shud be able to shoot down cables and telephone wires and if it touches any1 they shud get elctrocuted and die
- really fast vehicles like dragsters, f1 cars ect
- bigger unique jumps like a draw bridge
- tanks with tracks instead of wheels and dont blow up cars on contact, also when the army comes after you they fire the cannon, but if they run over your car, youre dead
- a more realistic 1st person view when youre driving so you can see the steering wheel and inside of the car
- more ways to make your car faster and handle better
- u shud be able to use your own music to listen to while playing
- bums on the street play instruments, beg and do stuff for money
- they shud hav loan sharks and if you dont pay them back they send hitmen after you
- a lot more ways to earn and spend money
- being able to rob people instead of having to kill them, but other people shud be able to rob you too
- maybe instead of dealing drugs you cud sell stolen cars but if you sell one to an undercover cop youll get ambushed by police
- being able to carry around multiple vehicles on the packer or in the back of a 18 wheeler
- being able to get drunk like in the phil cassidy mission in vice city
- adrenaline pill works while driving
- being able to take hostages and use them as sheilds but at which point cops will use snipers so you hav to keep moving
- traffic shud be more real for example in the middle of the night the streets shud be pretty much empty while during rush hour there shud many many cars on the road. this might help on missions where u get into long car chases.
- when you hear a cop on the police radio you shud be able to go to where they are and see whats happening
- able to save at hotels and motels but itd cost you money. maybe even being able to save in a rv, so u cud save anywhere in the game
- lock-up storage places that you can buy and store stuff in, such as cars and what not
- able to climb fences, ladders ect.
- open map from the start. broken bridges and roadblocks are getin really old. r* cud think of better things to reward us with than new parts of the map which shud just be accessible from the start anyways. instead of new cities being unlocked there shud be certain buildings like clubs, storage garages, apartments ect. then after u start doin missions, meetin people and acquiring new items like keys, outfits or w/e youll be able to access them. for instance you do a mission and get a key from someone which unlocks a storage garage that has a rare sports car in it. thatd be great.
- cheat menus instead of button combos
- possibly snow?
- a special james bond like car that releases an oil slick or tacs behind it to get rid of cops
- some way of showing and saving your last unique jump. maybe hav an online leaderboard to show who has the highest stats...
- better more useful eastereggs such as:
+ keys hidden around the city that unlock things like lock-up storages
that hav rare cars, safes which hav lots of money or, apartments that
u cud use as new save points
+ phone numbers scribbled on bathroom walls or wherever that u cud
call for hidden side missions, new weapons dealers or sum guy
selling a stolen rare car. maybe every now and then it will be a setup
by the cops, and after u make the deal, cops will ambush you
- NO MORE DATING/ TURF WARS/ASSETS. that stuff is crap
- dual weilding weapons


heres a map i made as well

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8522/gta4mapnew hx8.th.png (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gta4mapn ewhx8.png)

plenty of good ideas....
i like the map design, with all the parks scattered around the city...
JP

tdog07029
10-16-2007, 03:35 PM
made a few modifications to my list...

- a lot more hidden/ rare cars in the game, keeps it interesting
- you shud be able to shoot down cables and telephone wires and if it touches any1 they shud get elctrocuted and die
- really fast vehicles like dragsters, f1 cars ect
- bigger unique jumps like a draw bridge
- tanks with tracks instead of wheels and dont blow up cars on contact, also when the army comes after you they fire the cannon, but if they run over your car, youre dead
- a more realistic 1st person view when youre driving so you can see the steering wheel and inside of the car
- being able to carry around multiple vehicles on the packer or in the back of a 18 wheeler
- traffic shud be more real for example in the middle of the night the streets shud be pretty much empty while during rush hour there shud many many cars on the road. this might help on missions where u get into long car chases.
- being able to get drunk like in the phil cassidy mission in vice city
- adrenaline pill works while driving
- more ways to make your car faster and handle better
- a special james bond like car that releases an oil slick or tacs behind it to get rid of cops
- some way of showing and saving your last unique jump. maybe hav an online leaderboard to show who has the highest stats...
- able to save at hotels and motels but itd cost you money. maybe even being able to save in a rv, so u cud save anywhere in the game
- lock-up storage places that you can buy and store stuff in, such as cars and what not
- u shud be able to use your own music to listen to while playing
- bums on the street play instruments, beg and do stuff for money
- dual weilding weapons
- cheat menus instead of button combos
- able to climb fences, ladders ect.
- they shud hav loan sharks and if you dont pay them back they send hitmen after you
- a lot more ways to earn and spend money
- being able to rob people instead of having to kill them, but other people shud be able to rob you too
- being able to take hostages and use them as sheilds but at which point cops will use snipers so you hav to keep moving
- in vigilante missions, you shudnt get a wanted level whenever u kill the target.
- when you hear a cop on the police radio you shud be able to go to where they are and see whats happening
- open map from the start. broken bridges and roadblocks are getin really old. r* cud think of better things to reward us with than new parts of the map which shud just be accessible from the start anyways. instead of new cities being unlocked there shud be certain buildings like clubs, storage garages, apartments ect. then after u start doin missions, meetin people and acquiring new items like keys, outfits or w/e youll be able to access them. for instance you do a mission and get a key from someone which unlocks a storage garage that has a rare sports car in it. thatd be great.
- possibly snow? maybe they cud use snow as a reward for when u beat the game. then like 120 in-game days later it melts and keeps goin thru the seasons.
- better more useful eastereggs such as:
+ keys hidden around the city that unlock things like lock-up storages
that hav rare cars, safes which hav lots of money or, apartments that
u cud use as new save points
+ phone numbers scribbled on bathroom walls or wherever that u cud
call for hidden side missions, new weapons dealers or sum guy
selling a stolen rare car. maybe every now and then it will be a setup
by the cops, and after u make the deal, cops will ambush you
- be able to park a car in a parking lot and it will still be there when u go back later. possibly even hav parking meters on the sides of some of the streets, so if you really dont want youre car to dissapear you can feed the meeter and as long as theres time left on it, it wont dissapear.
- grand theft auto side missions. at first ur working for the guy that sells them and make like 50% of the profits and u hav a time limit to do it in but once u reach like 500 cars, the guy gets busted and he gives u his connections so then u can sell the stolen cars by urself and make 100% of the profit and u hav a much longer time limit to get the cars(instead of hours, you cud hav several days to get the cars). and since stealing cars and escaping the police is going to be harder than in previous gtas, it would be more fun and more of a challenge. but then when youre selling the cars yourself, you hav the risk of selling one to an undercover cop and getting ambushed by the police.
- NO MORE DATING/ TURF WARS/ASSETS. that stuff is crap



ideas for online multiplayer modes for 16 players:

gone in 60 seconds- you and up to 15 other players find sum guy that needs like 50 cars stolen for him in one night and you can team up with other players or go solo. like one guy cud be a lookout for cops while the other guy hot wires it. then each of u get paid according to how many and what kinds of cars that you steal personally. if someone dies or gets busted they are respawned back where the cars are being delivered.

cops and robbers - 8 players are robbers and 8 are cops. all players on the same team can see eachother on the map. the robbers spawn outside a bank with 4 getaway cars and better weapons than the cops (machine guns, high powered rifles, rocket launchers ect). the cops are spawned about 3 miles away from the bank (i figure there will be a bank scattered around the city about every 2 sq miles so it shudnt be very obvious as to which one is being robbed). each cop player has their own car with fair weapons(smgs, pistols, shotguns). once the robbers leave the bank, the A.I. cops are alerted and the bank shows up on the cop players maps. also if a gun is fired while robbing the bank, (some ppl in the bank might try to be heroes) the A.I. will be alerted and the bank shows up on the map . the robbers then need to get the money back to their hideout which the cops cant see on their map. the robbers only show up on the cop players maps if they are in their view or the a.i cops view. if a robber is killed, they cant respawn, but cop players can respawn, since the robbers hav a headstart and can split up to confuse the cops as to which robber has the money. whenever a cop player is killed they respawn with their team. the cops win if they capture the money, and the robbers win if the money is returned to their hideout. then the money is split between the survivors. robbers can decide to kill eachother if they get greedy and want more money for themselves. the cops get a 10% reward if they win, but the person who captures the money gets a 25% reward.
also at the beggining of the game before the robbers leave the bank and show up on the map, players on the cop team can use the time to acquire a helicopter/ better weapons/ faster cars ect.

get the breifcase- a breifcase is put in the middle of the city and shows up on everyones map as a dot. nobody can see eachother on the map. players try to retreive it and bring it back to their base. whenever the case is picked up or dropped it can be seen as a dot on the map. nobody knows where eachothers base is, so there cant be any campers. when someone dies they are respawned not far from the case. the winner gets the cash reward that was in the case. police can be turned on or off

rat race - players race to a point on the map. there are no set routes or required vehicles. you can use boats, cars, helicopters, and motorcycles, but you cant use trains, cabs, subways or other kinds of automated transportation. if you die you respawn right where you died. police can be turned on or off.

team rat race - same as rat race but there are two teams and there is only one player on each team that is competing in the race. everyone else is either helping their "rat" or trying to sabotage the other teams "rat". only the players that are the "rats" show up on the map. everytime the rat dies, they respawn where they got killed, but are invincible for 5 seconds. so if the other team ambushes you and then you respawn right in the middle of them, they cant kill you again. everyone else that dies and respawns is still vulnerable to attack. police can be turned on and off.

street race - plain old street races. players can shoot at eachother and try to blow eachother up. if anyone dies or gets busted, they are disqualified. police can be turned on or off.

marked man - same as psp online mode, only with 15 players on 1 (instead of 5 on 1). this cud work one of two ways:

-------the guy has his screename above his head which wud let u know hes the marked man. if thats how it wud be then u shudnt be able to see him on the map, except for like 2 seconds when he respawns, so then u wud know his general location, and then everyone wud swarm that area on the map trying to find him. also he cudnt be able to use cabs, trains, subways, or any other automated form of transportation. everyone else cud use automated transportation and be able to use trip skips. police can be turned on or off.

-------or it cud work the other way around. the guy shows up as a dot on the map but he doesnt hav his screenname above his head, so u wudnt be able to tell who he was in a crowd of people. and he cud use automated transportaion along with everyone else. nobody cud do the trip skip thing tho.
police can be turned on or off.


capture the flag- teams try to capture the oppsitions flag and return it to home base. players on the same team can see eachother. players respawn where the rest of their team is. police can be turned on or off

deathmatch - everyone for themselves. the winner is determined by which one gets the most kills. everyone can see eachother on the map. if you get killed by police it doesnt count and you are respawned back into the action. police can be turned on or off

team deathmatch - 2 teams go at it. the winner is determined by which one gets the most kills. players on the same team can see eachother on the map. if u get killed by the police it doesnt counts and you respawn where youre team is. police can be turned on or off

then theres the online co-op for missions which wud also be pretty cool

let me know if u see any errors or loopholes in any of the modes. im pretty sure theyre airtight


heres a map i made and a pic to giv it sum comparison to san andreas. ive bee hearing that its supose to be either slightly bigger, about the same size or 75% of san andreas, so i just took the worst case scenario.

http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gta4mapnew jt5.png

http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gta4compa reuy6.jpg

LR.
10-22-2007, 03:05 PM
-Being able to save photos and videos and then upload them to the internet, where they'd you'd be able to download them onto your computer.

-User marketplace where you can sell custom cars and stuff like that (think Forza)

-Clan support online.

-More forms of motor-less transportation (hang glider, skateboard, etc.)

-More RPG elements (driving ability, shooting ability, cycling ability, flying ability...)

jamaican_pickle
10-23-2007, 02:38 AM
i always thought horse and bull riding would be cool, but that would mean R* would have to put all different types of animals into the game...
JP

Lettermaniac
10-23-2007, 02:40 AM
It's Grand Theft Auto, not Grand Theft Farm Animal. I don't think horse and bull riding would fit in to Liberty City for some reason.

jamaican_pickle
10-23-2007, 02:50 AM
it could have fitted into sa though... with all those farms around...
JP

Lettermaniac
10-23-2007, 02:53 AM
True, but... rideable? I can't imagine "CJ from the hood" doing gallops around a paddock or milking cows.

jamaican_pickle
10-23-2007, 03:06 AM
it would definately be fun though...
JP

Old Timer
10-23-2007, 10:09 AM
tdog07029:
You put a lot of thought in that post, Rockstar should have called you first. I agree with a lot of them.

tdog07029
10-23-2007, 11:52 AM
dam right! rockstar shud put me on their payroll lol

Son606
10-24-2007, 06:43 AM
I'd like there to be myths and legends etc in GTA 4 just like in SAn Andreas!!!

HaK
10-30-2007, 08:39 AM
I dunno if its possible to break through windows? But my wish would be... That if it is true that we can climb poles... That if you climb a pole, right next to a building... say running away from the cops... that you could then jump from the pole, and smash through the window, ending up inside a building, with a head start on the cops.... hmmm

gta4crazy1
10-30-2007, 12:05 PM
that would be pretty amazing. or climb to the very top, and jump on top of the building, then jump to another and go inside

tdog07029
10-30-2007, 04:29 PM
ya thatd be pretty fun outrunnin cops on foot if u cud do all that

HaK
11-02-2007, 05:50 AM
I wonder what types of motorbike will be in the game?

Im hoping for a DUCATI...

Here's a question.... Will you still be able to swim without dying in GTAIV like san andreas? hmmm

mokies
11-02-2007, 08:19 AM
Just don't be so high, maybe try to look up the game True Crime New York City (TRUE GRIME EY). Just add some Ragdoll Physics (I prefer that it is a Havok one), weather is possible to be changed, the use of pixel shader is on the glasses/mirrors/rims/lights/clothing/scopes/water/ road/vehicles/buildings, the use of HDR is definitely used for heaven-like glow of the game, blood would be intense and and bullet hits maybe included, scopes may have dirt when zoomed, sounds would be more enhanced (maybe in a 24-bit sound HD), car damage could be more intense and destructive... Oh wait, maybe when the impact of explosion would let the peds break into pieces. That's my only opinion with the game. :finger:

redddread
11-02-2007, 08:30 AM
that would be pretty amazing. or climb to the very top, and jump on top of the building, then jump to another and go inside

yeah that's a good one especially because the GTA games with helicopters, planes etc, when you fly the vehicle you can see roof doors on top of buildings but you can't actually enter the building. it would be cool if you could enter the buildin from the roof.

tdog07029
11-02-2007, 11:36 AM
yeah that's a good one especially because the GTA games with helicopters, planes etc, when you fly the vehicle you can see roof doors on top of buildings but you can't actually enter the building. it would be cool if you could enter the buildin from the roof.

ya thatd be cool cuz on missions where u hav to assassinate sum1 thats in a building there cud be dozens of different routes to get to him, by fire-escapes, windows, rooftop doors ect.

gta4crazy1
11-02-2007, 01:00 PM
another idea i thought of is from the movie point break. be able to use a gas pump, light the end of it and use it as a flame thrower, that would be totally kick ass

Phil
11-17-2007, 01:58 AM
Gas pumps should be in as they were in Mafia..

uhm, oh and, the tunnels!!! the Lincoln and Holland tunnel should be in, and i hope they charge you a fee if you drive through them! :)

.LiLe.
11-18-2007, 02:00 PM
This things I wish:

-Being able to teach your own self fighting techniches(using your analog sticks like in Fight Night Round 1,2,3)

-Being able to headbutt someone and hit him with a gun.

-Being able to tackle someone

-To have Impala's, and Mazda CX-7's

-Get into any builiding you want

-Work at a job such as GameStop, Burger Shot or some like that lol

-Ask random peds to help you with a mission

-And finally I wish they have Hollister, American Eagle, and Aeropostle Clothing Brands:)!!

gta4crazy1
11-18-2007, 03:12 PM
they should have a pistol whip button, they did on Saint's row. I'd like to see more advanced fighting styles, not just like a leg whip and that it. there should be more to fighting than simple moves. It would be cool to see cops shoot rival gangs, like the rival gangs shoots at the cops and its a little battle between the cops and the gang. that would be cool

.LiLe.
11-18-2007, 03:46 PM
Yeah that would be cool man. I wish the gangs are more realistic now. Like no clones and like they can go to liquor stores and jump, rob, beat up innocent people that would be fun!

Old Timer
11-18-2007, 06:12 PM
"-Ask random peds to help you with a mission"
I do this in GTASA using the "recruit anyone with a gun cheat." I had CJ go up against the Russian Mafia in the mission where he has to go inside the warehouse, and chase the one guy to the outside, well, I had him with four Women and one guy shooting at everyone, when finished, all but one of the Women in the short red skirt had gotten shot, so did the guy. It was fun.

This things I wish:

-Being able to teach your own self fighting techniches(using your analog sticks like in Fight Night Round 1,2,3)

-Being able to headbutt someone and hit him with a gun.

-Being able to tackle someone

-To have Impala's, and Mazda CX-7's

-Get into any builiding you want

-Work at a job such as GameStop, Burger Shot or some like that lol

-Ask random peds to help you with a mission

-And finally I wish they have Hollister, American Eagle, and Aeropostle Clothing Brands:)!!

scorged
11-18-2007, 06:17 PM
I want.... A grenade launcher, and more customizable vehicle options.

.LiLe.
11-18-2007, 06:42 PM
Yeah we will need help from ppl because the missions will probably hard because they are realistic. Plus rember how they said no more arrow heads so yeah.



"-Ask random peds to help you with a mission"
I do this in GTASA using the "recruit anyone with a gun cheat." I had CJ go up against the Russian Mafia in the mission where he has to go inside the warehouse, and chase the one guy to the outside, well, I had him with four Women and one guy shooting at everyone, when finished, all but one of the Women in the short red skirt had gotten shot, so did the guy. It was fun.

walter
11-18-2007, 08:31 PM
A couple of things I thought of:

- Have in game parades. Imagine stealing a mini clown bike or even a float.
- Car customization that is as deep or maybe even deeper than Saints Row.
- Able to wear anything. Say, if you see a ped wearing a coat you want, you are able to buy it somewhere.
- Different seasons. Maybe like in bully although I hope it's not in chapters.
- Buying cars from car dealerships. Not just like in San Andreas where you can buy cars from Easter Basin.
- The ability to buy your weapons back like in VCS.
- Instead of guns being glowing / floating objects when you see them, have them actually lying on the ground like in an FPS.

.LiLe.
11-18-2007, 09:33 PM
Walter thats some pretty sick ideas, I like them!

HaK
11-19-2007, 01:17 AM
NO MORE ARROW HEADS???? I have never heard that one before...

So that means we will have to learn the streets and their names etc.... to get around! (not using taxi or cab)

Phil
11-19-2007, 05:27 AM
that would be killer... and its not that hard anyway, naturally i know my way around my own town, but i also know my way around, III, VC, SA and Stillwater (saints row) im sure we can learn the new LC pretty fast.. :P atleast i'll just stay on the freeways! :P

.LiLe.
11-19-2007, 06:47 AM
I'll try finding the article again. Like you know in past GTA's when u wanna kill some one and like they got that arrow above them, like in IV u have to find him ur self.

B13
11-19-2007, 07:24 AM
hi all,

I wish it come for PC sonner than the others GTA

gta4crazy1
11-19-2007, 12:13 PM
A couple of things I thought of:

- Have in game parades. Imagine stealing a mini clown bike or even a float.
- Car customization that is as deep or maybe even deeper than Saints Row.
- Able to wear anything. Say, if you see a ped wearing a coat you want, you are able to buy it somewhere.
- Different seasons. Maybe like in bully although I hope it's not in chapters.
- Buying cars from car dealerships. Not just like in San Andreas where you can buy cars from Easter Basin.
- The ability to buy your weapons back like in VCS.
- Instead of guns being glowing / floating objects when you see them, have them actually lying on the ground like in an FPS.

if it had customization better than saints row, than i would never stop playing the game.
It would be cool if you could do stealth assassinations like on AC, go up behind some one, stab them, then keep there mouth closed, and walk away scott free(term), having no one know who killed the person. that would be amazing

Phil
11-19-2007, 02:26 PM
Just came across this idea in my mind...

we should have the streets littered with cars just like in the real new york city! and im not just talking driving, im also talking about the parked cars, along the streets. In Alququin or what ever its called (Manhattan) every street should basically be filled with cars parked on each side, just like in real life..

.LiLe.
11-19-2007, 08:17 PM
Phil thats a good idea, also I'd like to see more cars action as in Illegal street racing, car jacking, more realistic accidents and people having pimped out rides, oh and finally car shows which leads you to jack any car in the car show. That would kick ass.

Lettermaniac
11-19-2007, 08:53 PM
Phil thats a good idea, also I'd like to see more cars action as in Illegal street racing, car jacking, more realistic accidents and people having pimped out rides, oh and finally car shows which leads you to jack any car in the car show. That would kick ass.

Remember how Houser (?) said you won't see Niko riding around in things that his type of personality would hate? I can't see him going to a car show and stealing some "pimped" out ricer.

iKlipse
11-19-2007, 08:57 PM
I'm pretty sure if you tried to jack a car in a car show you'd be pulled out and have your ass kicked before you can even think of saying fuck.

Car shows, meh, adds realism but theres no point.

Pimped out vehicles around the streets would be nice though.

.LiLe.
11-19-2007, 10:04 PM
What about the music? I wish they have Ice Cube 2006 songs, Lil John, 30 secs to mars, 3 doors down, Drake Bell, Three Day Grace, Lil Wayne, Timbaland, Justin Timberlake, and Kanye West

Lettermaniac
11-19-2007, 10:07 PM
To me, every single one of those artists (bar Ice Cube, but not recently) are disgraceful. Rockstar said they would have more underground bands, that few people know of, rather than commercial bullshit like them.

Phil
11-20-2007, 05:12 AM
To me, every single one of those artists (bar Ice Cube, but not recently) are disgraceful. Rockstar said they would have more underground bands, that few people know of, rather than commercial bullshit like them.


And amen to rockstar on that decision!

.LiLe.
11-20-2007, 09:55 PM
I wish we can throw people In, and Out of stores like in The Godfather through the glass. And to take over businesses that would own!

.LiLe.
11-21-2007, 03:16 PM
I wish we can beat people up to unconciusness then drag em to a dark place and snag clothes off them(exp: beat up a cop drag him somewhere and grab his clothes and then u act like a cop) And I also wish when we hit cops I wish we don't have wanted stars right away unless the cop announces on his megaphone or w/e it is.

.:nemesis:.
11-22-2007, 12:47 AM
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You may like to review our forum rules (http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/announcement.php? f=122), it will prevent you from making any more mistakes.

Fry
11-26-2007, 01:35 AM
To me, every single one of those artists (bar Ice Cube, but not recently) are disgraceful. Rockstar said they would have more underground bands, that few people know of, rather than commercial bullshit like them.
I'd actually like the radio to be realistic and if they fill the radio with underground bands i will hate it. I mean i'd like to see radio as it is in real life, With Rock, Rap, Grunge, Classic and all other genres of mainstream music included plus a few channels for underground. I'm more into rap and rock more then anything and i wouldn't mind hearing underground artists from those genre because i listen to alot of underground. But i dont want the music to be filled with 25% good undeground and 75% shit underground, I want mainstream melded with great underground songs so everyone's music taste is catered for.

Example- Artist like Kanye, 50 Cent, and Jay Z would be good for mainstream rap, While Army of the Pharoes, Jedi Mind Tricks, Apathy and Esoteric would be good underground rap.

Note- These are just example, I dont even like Kanye or 50 but i dont mind the other artists. All i'm saying is we need music to cater for all tastes, Not just the underground and with R*'s previous unbiased excellent work on GTA3, VS and SA i just hope they dont go the "mainstream music is crap" route this time round.

victim
11-26-2007, 06:15 AM
At risk of this turning into a music thread I have this point to make. Current music costs a lot more to buy and put into a game; the soundtracks for Vice City and San Andreas were spectacular because Rockstar could put what music the want in, at a minimal price.

Notice how the more modern Grand Theft Auto games don't have a strong soundtrack, being both III and LCS, however, this isn't to say Rockstar cannot afford to put mainstream music into IV as it is already confirmed Run-DMC will feature in the game, as well as a rumored title by Gwen Stefani, quite a popular mainstream artist, said to feature in the games playlist.

Fry
11-27-2007, 01:20 AM
I want to see more in depth side missions...

Examples-

Police Missions- Instead of just having to kill someone i would like to see more varieties in the mission, Like maybe a stakeout. In which your given details of the suspect and his whereabouts with a timeframe for when he should arrive. The mission could mean you have to photograph him buying selling drug, Or even just being able to arrest people without killing them and you get a bonus for a citizens arrest.

Fire Brigade- Think of the mission Burning Desire in GTA: SA, Where you have to run in the house and put out fires with the fire extinglisher.

aRTee
11-28-2007, 09:54 AM
Fire Brigade- Think of the mission Burning Desire in GTA: SA, Where you have to run in the house and put out fires with the fire extinglisher.

That would be cool, also if there would be people trapped in you could save them to get medic missions in same time.

Yam Trigger
12-01-2007, 05:23 AM
ive heard how their is going to be train and bus scedules... would it be cool if you could get in a train or bus and shoot up the place...

.LiLe.
12-02-2007, 12:29 AM
I wish they have this gun in GTA IV don't you think so?

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.ind ividual&videoid=22791249

Yam Trigger
12-02-2007, 01:01 AM
me too!
was that a glock???

.LiLe.
12-02-2007, 02:38 PM
Yep

Yam Trigger
12-02-2007, 11:59 PM
Cool, It would really suit Niko.

RockForLight
12-07-2007, 05:09 PM
I would like to see a alcohol/drug use system implemented in the game ( ala Saints Row, but with the effects lasting longer.)

Also random police stops .

redninja216
12-08-2007, 09:32 PM
I've noticed speed limit signs. so if speed limits are implimented, simple tickets. You pull over, cop walks up, deducts X amount of money then gets back in the car. it would be annoying constantly having cops come after you for speeding though.

Havok
12-08-2007, 09:37 PM
I've noticed speed limit signs. so if speed limits are implimented, simple tickets. You pull over, cop walks up, deducts X amount of money then gets back in the car. it would be annoying constantly having cops come after you for speeding though.
ya but if they change the car physics, so it doesn't feel like you're crawling when you're going about 60, then following the speed limit won't be hard.

redninja216
12-08-2007, 09:48 PM
ya but if they change the car physics, so it doesn't feel like you're crawling when you're going about 60, then following the speed limit won't be hard.

There'd also have to be some kind of speedometer

Ryder77
12-09-2007, 11:28 AM
I wish they would have some Reggaeton stations.

AvatarMike17
12-09-2007, 01:03 PM
I wish we can Go top the Top of the Rock

Mousey
12-09-2007, 01:31 PM
I hope they get rid of the eating and fitness thing, fo real.

redninja216
12-09-2007, 01:43 PM
they are. the fitness would throw off Niko's psychics. and I just don't think the eating is making a return.

NickeezY
12-09-2007, 01:57 PM
I am really hoping that the clothes customization and everything that deals with appearances is as good or better than that of saints row

gta4crazy1
12-09-2007, 02:14 PM
it should be, but they are also coming out with saints row 2, and hopefully it will beat all sr 2 has to offer. i hope there is customization that any of us could think of. like, the best customization that any of us could think of

RockForLight
12-09-2007, 02:38 PM
and I just don't think the eating is making a return.
I think thats how you get your energy in this game.

redninja216
12-09-2007, 02:45 PM
personally, I'd want the eating to return, like the hunger meter and for health.

rockforlight, what is your sig from?

rah
12-09-2007, 02:53 PM
I dont think they should have eating!!!

RockForLight
12-09-2007, 03:01 PM
personally, I'd want the eating to return, like the hunger meter and for health.

rockforlight, what is your sig from?

yea I remember reading that eating will return for health , but the exercising will not .

and my sig is from the best band I have ever seen .
Bad Brains.

rah
12-09-2007, 03:04 PM
yea I remember reading that eating will return for health , but the exercising will not .

and my sig is from the best band I have ever seen .
Bad Brains.
u have 2 eat or is it just 4 health??:) :)

jascando
12-10-2007, 03:03 PM
i would LOVE a chop shop....meaning i could have employes find and steal cars from me and i would not have to search the whole city for a certain ride i want, and we could mod them and fix them up to sell for cash.

.LiLe.
12-10-2007, 03:16 PM
I'd love to see more street action, like fighting, aruging, stealing, singing, dancing, and having peds beat you up in some fights instead you winning every fist fight like the past GTA's.

gta4crazy1
12-10-2007, 04:58 PM
that would be cool if the peds didnt act like rag dolls when you fight them

.LiLe.
12-10-2007, 05:06 PM
Yeah, but im sick of GTA not having challanges in street fights