I thought VCS was bigger?

[PoRt_PoWeR]

I was looking at some pics of VCS from what i seen leaf links golf course is missing but not just the golf course but all the little islands it was on. I heard VCS was bigger then VC (much bigger they said) but if the golf course is missing where is all this extra land and how will this make any sence when 2 years later theres a bloody golf course where water used to be? in the words of johnny cochrane (south park) "THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE". Then i started thinking maybe R* left the land out of that pic to keep this new area secret if not i hope they have a good explanation in the story line for how land appears then disapears in only 2 years time.

[xXSoldierXx]

What they meant by twice the size of Vice City, then meant the storyline.
And a golf course could me made in Two years. Plus I think there is land there, I think that may be where the Trailer park is, (just an opinion).

[PoRt_PoWeR]

no there is no land there according to these pics and yes a golf course could be built in 2 years but if theres no land to put it on it would take alot longer and i realise its only a game but i just thought with all the effort R* has gone to connecting all these storyline they wouldn't put in things that dont make any sense.


VCS top/VC bottom
http://yuri.bakker.info/GTA%20VCS/COMBINED/12.JPG

[xXSoldierXx]

Oh my gosh, Wow they made a big mistake there.

[PoRt_PoWeR]

But if you look at the water where leaf links should be it looks like something is missing and look at the bridge it looks like it doesn't connect to anything maybe they took whatever is there out so it doesn't ruin the suprise.

[malman1080]

Thats a little odd, why would they get rid of the golf course? I doubt there is anything interesting there. I could be wrong.

Edit: I guess I took a long time posting? Oh well.

[xXSoldierXx]

Maybe, or maybe through out the Story Land is created over there, I don't know how but we'll just have to wait and see I guess.

[Despirited]

Guys rember, Its not the final product.

[PoRt_PoWeR]

Guys rember, Its not the final product.REALLY joking

but seriously im just speculating on pics that they've release and that bridge does look unfinished.

[xXSoldierXx]

Guys rember, Its not the final product.


That's true, all we can do like I say all the time is to just wait and see what happens.

[.:Trane-SFC:.]

They are making the city way better. I was just on a random GTA site and they said it will be twice as big!
:lick:

[xXSoldierXx]

Dude, what they mean by bigger is they mean a larger story not a larger city.

[Lauwee]

Draw distance. It's unfinished. Duh.

[.:Trane-SFC:.]

Thats what I meant, if they made the city bigger it would take to long.

[xXSoldierXx]

Thats what I meant, if they made the city bigger it would take to long.

Yeah, perciselly, this game's gunna be awesome.

[.:Trane-SFC:.]

But has anyone here got a PSP? Im going to wait for the PS2 Version, if there is going to be one

[xXSoldierXx]

I have a PSP, :P ...I can't wait for this game.

[.:Trane-SFC:.]

Lucky you. I am saving up my moolah to buy a car, Honda V-Tec!!:)

[xXSoldierXx]

Lucky you. I am saving up my moolah to buy a car, Honda V-Tec!!:)

Nice Man, I cruise around in my Convertable, well my wife's, I drive a Hummer, which you call a patriot in GTA.

Anyway, VCS looks awesome, don't know anything about th emissing land, but we will know sooner or later.

[.:Trane-SFC:.]

Missing land? Are you talking about that old map that people discovered at Sunshine Autos not long ago?
That looks like an okay map but its missing alot of stuff?

Man, I wish I could have a Patriot

[xXSoldierXx]

Missing land? Are you talking about that old map that people discovered at Sunshine Autos not long ago?
That looks like an okay map but its missing alot of stuff?

Man, I wish I could have a Patriot


haha, No where talking about the Golf Course missing in VCS.

[.:Trane-SFC:.]

Yeah, that is very strange. They might have moved it slightly?

[xXSoldierXx]

Yeah, that is very strange. They might have moved it slightly?


More like Completelly. The entire land mass holding the golf course is gone. So everyone is wondering how there could be land with a golf course two years later...confusing...

[.:Trane-SFC:.]

Well DJ Mr. Magic from Wildstyle might of used a "Magic" to make it appear! LOL:laugh:

Well, this is a earliy screenshot so they might of transformed the look of the coursebut it might not be finished yet. So when theytook the shot they may have not added the textures yet.

[Ash_735]

It is an early screenshot, The draw distance system is still in testing phase, who remembers the first LCS screenshots? Mainly the Staunton Island one, the draw Distance was rubbish so there were loads of buildings missing in the distance yet in the actual game they are all there.

[thenotsogoodtrickster]

or, what if they lengthened the bridge, and the golf course is behind the picture? Just a wild guess.

[Asif]

It is an early screenshot, The draw distance system is still in testing phase.

Come on Ash! At least I didnt expect that coming out from you. You can barely see those buildings in the behind. So if there really were the Leaf Links, that would have loaded nicely from that short distance. (Reference: #12 pic from Now and Then (http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=2532 09) topic.)
About being 'much bigger VCS' - they appearantly meant the whole game is bigger than Vice City in aspects of features and storylines.

[PoRt_PoWeR]

Draw distance. It's unfinished. Duh.
If it was because of the draw distance how come the building witch are oviously further away then the end of the bridge and the area where leaf links was are clearly visable?

[thenotsogoodtrickster]

But what if the buildings in the background are just bitmaps, pictures, to make the draw distance seem bigger.

[Asif]

But what if the buildings in the background are just bitmaps, pictures, to make the draw distance seem bigger.

They could have done this to Vice City also, but they didnt. Come on! How do you expect such big landmark to be not visible, which is just 100 yards or so away?!

[PoRt_PoWeR]

But what if the buildings in the background are just bitmaps, pictures, to make the draw distance seem bigger.
Why wouldn't they do the same to the bridge? Also you can clearly see the building behind it under the actual bridge where the off ramp should be. I think there maybe something the R* doesn't want us to see yet.

[Asif]

And Leaf links is an medium sized artificial island as it seemed when I played Vice City. I dont think that it is impossible to create such in just 2 years.

[victim]

who cares. Its gone. Its not coming back. Personally I thought the Leaf Links was a waste of space in Vice City. The only good it was used for was making a cool canal sort of thing between the east island and leaf links which now seems to be completely opened.

[Ash_735]

If It's not the DD (which I've noticed, yeah, the buildings furyher away seem more rendered) then I can only hope Rockstar can either A) Explain how it just apperas in 2 years, or, B) They removed from the beta shots just to show how improved the Draw Distance is?

[PoRt_PoWeR]

.....I can only hope Rockstar can either A) Explain how it just apperas in 2 years....
Thats all im saying

[Jimmy_86]

It is an early screenshot, The draw distance system is still in testing phase.Come on Ash! At least I didnt expect that coming out from you. You can barely see those buildings in the behind. So if there really were the Leaf Links, that would have loaded nicely from that short distance. (Reference: #12 pic from Now and Then (http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=2532 09) topic.)
Ash_735 could be right, perhaps in this build they just hadn't put the textures in for the golf course and its trees, the distant textures anyway, that way it would be "invisible" until you get closer and it draws the more detailed "close up" textures.

EDIT: I've just noticed in the VCS picture (the one with no Leaf links where there should be and the squallo) that the horizon on the very left is odd. Shouldn't there be prawn island or a bridge going between prawn island and either downtown or vice point?!!... this helps the draw distance argument unless you think they've removed Prawn island and/or it's bridge(s) aswell!

[PoRt_PoWeR]

EDIT: I've just noticed in the VCS picture (the one with no Leaf links where there should be and the squallo) that the horizon on the very left is odd. Shouldn't there be prawn island or a bridge going between prawn island and either downtown or vice point?!!... this helps the draw distance argument unless you think they've removed Prawn island and/or it's bridge(s) aswell!That almost proves my point because the land and bridge im talking about is in front of building that are visable the bridge you are talkin about is probally 2-3X further away to the left so id expect that not to be in draw distence BUT if that pic was a bitmap/pre rendered pic like he said wouldn't that bridge be visable in the pic? I'd think so.

[phreak]

no there is no land there according to these pics and yes a golf course could be built in 2 years but if theres no land to put it on it would take alot longer and i realise its only a game but i just thought with all the effort R* has gone to connecting all these storyline they wouldn't put in things that dont make any sense.


VCS top/VC bottom
http://yuri.bakker.info/GTA%20VCS/COMBINED/12.JPG

I always thought that was a little odd. Quite frankly, I wouldn't care if the golf course was in the game or not. The whole time in "Vice City", you went there 1) to kill come guy for Carrington and 2) to get a hidden package. It's not as if you were actually able play golf.

[PoRt_PoWeR]

I know the golf course wont be there (i hated it anyway it was just unused space) but instead of just getting rid of it all (including the land) it would have been nice if R* put maybe a mansion, suburb or atleast something there.

[Tendercrisp]

no there is no land there according to these pics and yes a golf course could be built in 2 years but if theres no land to put it on it would take alot longer and i realise its only a game but i just thought with all the effort R* has gone to connecting all these storyline they wouldn't put in things that dont make any sense.


VCS top/VC bottom
http://yuri.bakker.info/GTA%20VCS/COMBINED/12.JPG


Have you ever heard of "Still in development."?

[phreak]

Then explain this: Why would Rockstar release a picture like that then? If it's in development, why would they show a picture with a large piece of the map missing? They released that picture to show everyone Leaf Links is not in the game. Everything takes up space, something of which there isn't much of on a UMD. So, taking away some of the map leaves space for more music, better graphics, better physics, etc.

[xXSoldierXx]

Then explain this: Why would Rockstar release a picture like that then? If it's in development, why would they show a picture with a large piece of the map missing? They released that picture to show everyone Leaf Links is not in the game. Everything takes up space, something of which there isn't much of on a UMD. So, taking away some of the map leaves space for more music, better graphics, better physics, etc.


Nice Idea Phreak, that could be a reason.

[scarvice]

really screwed up I hope they put it in remeber guys that this game is still in early productions hopefully thell put it in or they will put like a water park there or something lol

[SA most wanted]

Draw distance. It's unfinished. Duh.


You hit the nail on the head.

[xXSoldierXx]

A water park would be cool, seeing as you can now swim, I would like a Pool at the mansion. :)