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Vic_Cotroni
12-02-2004, 11:46 AM
I just thought it would be fun to share your thoughts, ideas and comparasons on some of the older San Andreas pictures that were from the beta version compared to the final version of the game.

For instance :

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screens hots/food6.jpg
notice how there's a Vago's ( I think it's a Vago's guy, could be one of the other hispanic gangs though ) walking with Grove Street gang memebers? It's as if he's in the gang with CJ, following him around.

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screens hots/food8.jpg
when do you ever see your gang members walking out of the back room in a Burger Shot? Never.......

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screens hots/ballas.jpg
that's not what the Balla's look like in the final version.......

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screens hots/sweetsmoke.jpg
I don't remember Smoke looking like that, do you?

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screens hots/policebike.jpg
cops sure looked different than in the beta version....

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screens hots/gangs4.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screens hots/gangs2.jpg
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screens hots/gangs3.jpg
looks like the " hoody " grove street gangster didn't make it in the final cut

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screens hots/carwash.jpg
this was strickly for hype ( which is how Rockstar mostly sells their games )

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/sanandreas/screens hots/fansite_exclusive_3.jpg
notice how it says LSPD on the side instead of what it says in the final version, SAPD.

I'll let you guys find the rest.

Simmo
12-02-2004, 11:52 AM
I thought it did say LSPD, SFPD and LVPD? Well researched, they have changed alot!

AndyHogg
12-02-2004, 11:53 AM
it also said that cops on bikes would dive onto the back of your car, it only does it in that one mission

Vic_Cotroni
12-02-2004, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by Simmo
I thought it did say LSPD, SFPD and LVPD? Well researched, they have changed alot!

on the cop cars , yes, they say LSPD, SFPD, and LVPD. But on the cop bikes ( and ambulances ) it says SA instead of the seperate city initials. Wierd, I thought.

Gta Guy
12-02-2004, 11:56 AM
nice job vic,i never noticed the SAPD thing

qotsa rock
12-02-2004, 12:09 PM
what happened to female cops i heard a officer with a womans voice but it was a man thats all i have seen of them

Dan!
12-02-2004, 12:10 PM
thought the first one makes it looks like they are bullying you because you are fat!

OG_Henny_Loc
12-02-2004, 12:14 PM
lol ibet the ppl at rockstr play the beta version its prolly better lol

Vic_Cotroni
12-02-2004, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by G-Unit Soldja!
thought the first one makes it looks like they are bullying you because you are fat!

one problem though......the grove street gang members don't just walk along with other rival gang members, they shoot rival gang members.

qotsa rock
12-02-2004, 12:19 PM
why does every thread nowadays have to be about how san andreas is rubbish .... its ace how can you do this to such a great game

AndyHogg
12-02-2004, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by qotsa rock
why does every thread nowadays have to be about how san andreas is rubbish .... its ace how can you do this to such a great game
meh... ppl like to nit-pick, im pretty sure they all think its a really good game

Vic_Cotroni
12-02-2004, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by qotsa rock
why does every thread nowadays have to be about how san andreas is rubbish .... its ace how can you do this to such a great game

who's bashing the game? We're pointing out differences in the beta version compared to the final version , THAT'S IT.

.:Mouldy Punk:.
12-02-2004, 12:31 PM
It's a great game, but not that much of an improvement from Vice city. Alot of things that R* "promised" weren't in the game. Although most of this was based on speculation, some of it wasn't. It was a load of hype about nothing tbh imo.

AndyHogg
12-02-2004, 12:32 PM
yeah but its not really a positive pointing out the differences, theres a pretty negative theme to this thread

Vic_Cotroni
12-02-2004, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by .:Mouldy Punk:.
It's a great game, but not that much of an improvement from Vice city. Alot of things that R* "promised" weren't in the game. Although most of this was based on speculation, some of it wasn't. It was a load of hype about nothing tbh imo.

Hype is Rockstars main weapon when it comes to selling their games. It kind of pisses me off. That's why everyone should only judge a game when it's out and playable instead of judging it by what game magazines and websites think just by looking at beta pictures.

AndyHogg
12-02-2004, 12:37 PM
yeah but SA is a superb game, granted im not over the moon that theyve taken stuff out but theyve left everything to make it extremely cool

Vic_Cotroni
12-02-2004, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by AndyHogg
yeah but its not really a positive pointing out the differences, theres a pretty negative theme to this thread

Did you even read my original post?

It clearly says " I just thought it would be fun to share your thoughts, ideas and comparasons on some of the older San Andreas pictures that were from the beta version compared to the final version of the game. "

what the fuck is so negative about that? It's not my fault if people post in here with negative comments about the game......I usally agree with them anyway. YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE MAKING THIS POST NEGATIVE SON.

aNgeleQue
12-02-2004, 01:23 PM
I reckon these things were never even intended to be put in the game....
I mean, there are hundreds of places and things that arent seen in the game. Has anyone thought of the idea that R* have just made these special screenshots just to get people interested? I mean, on some screens you see interiors you are never able to get to.

Ice FuRy
12-02-2004, 01:52 PM
But that is misleading the consumers really. Shouldnt have to lie to sell a game, sad part of rockstar.
(Dont Worry AndyHOGG this is not negative)
Anyways someone said about the female cops that would be awesome to have just to see their rage when you piss them off lol, even though the cops dont really get angry.

travdog
12-02-2004, 02:12 PM
i liked how the beta had more types of grove members instead of only 3, in the beta they had like 5 or 6 i think.

the ballas looked retarded in the beta, they look more ghetto-ish in the final product

and a small thing but in one of the picture with the guy in the hoodie (grove) it looks like theres a garbage bag right by the street, havent seen that yet

oh and too bad sweet,ryder, and smoke didnt have casual clothes, they looked cool in those

Rebel_biscuit
12-02-2004, 02:55 PM
yeah the picture with the gang members leaning out of the car and shooting, i they think they are meant to be big smoke,ryder and sweet

they are wearing white and don't look anything like what they look like in the final version.
i reckon they look better though.

http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/screens/sc reen01.html

Born Acorn
12-02-2004, 03:27 PM
in that screen there is way more trees. WAY MORE.


Also, the Car wash in west LS does work.

ShortyUK
12-02-2004, 03:41 PM
I think SA is an amazing game! It outdoes Vice City by far, no challenge.

Alot of the "promises" were just speculation and rumors from magazines etc and people. Rockstar never actually "promised" that stuff, you know what media people are like, they make stuff up all the time.

The draw distance was improved ALOT in my opinion. I can see SF from the coast along the desert, which is further than VC.

The only things i dont like is the pop-ups, driver AI (again really bad drivers) and impact animations for all vehicles, but especially aerial ones. Also ragdoll physics would have ruled.

carl-johnson
12-02-2004, 03:57 PM
rockstar made an uh-oh!!!! look at the back of the SA box it shows the little pics and smoke is in white

Spike
12-02-2004, 04:01 PM
what type of car is it that is driving out of the car wash pic?

i havent seen it yet and i am about 6 or seven missions from the end of the game.

Ice FuRy
12-02-2004, 06:41 PM
I think that was just in the beta version because that is a nice car.

travdog
12-02-2004, 07:55 PM
oh and i have a question, in that pic that guy posted with guys leaning out of a car shooting, that guy in the seat behind CJ, i read somewhere he hangs around the grove and you can recruit him

is he in the real game? nobody mentioned him yet

SomeRandomGuy
12-03-2004, 01:42 AM
The statue of smoke in the last mission is him in his white,

I am a bad man
12-03-2004, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by Spike
what type of car is it that is driving out of the car wash pic?

i havent seen it yet and i am about 6 or seven missions from the end of the game.

I think that may have evolved into the jester as it's got a similar side view.

The car washes are funny, why make the game have dirty cars, put a load of car washes around and then don't make them work?

Oh and R* - you don't need to hype your game with misleading pics / quotes. any GTA game is gonna get our interest and sell well without it, just for next time, ok!!

Oh and for those Halo2 vs SA comparisons (even though they are different types of game!) I read that Halo 2 could be completed in 4 days (not sure how many hours per day) and I've just finished the story in SA at 78 hours (not including unsaved time). Bet that gets a reply!!!