View Full Version : GTA IV 2nd DLC: Luis Fernando Lopez
Jamezchidori
02-23-2009, 04:44 AM
****GTA IV 2nd Downloadable Content****
Who is going to be the protagonist for the 2nd DLC? nobody knows but it is speculated to be Luis Fernando Lopez and here is why.
****Supporting Evidence****
Reasons to support this theory are his mysterious appearances in Grand Theft Auto IV, and questionable background. This is also suspected due to Niko and Johnny, two protagonists, meet up in the museum, and Luis appears to ambush it. As well as the achievement you get after completing the Museum Piece mission is called "Impossible Trinity", which at first is cryptic, but makes speculative sense: 3 characters have been brought together by almost impossible events.Additionally,all of the GTA IV era protagonists have been arrested for highjacking,which is indeed a law Lopez has broken.
****Who Is This Guy?****
Luis Fernando Lopez is a Dominican-American street gangster associated with the Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers and also works as a bodyguard for club owner and Ancelotti associate Anthony "Gay Tony" Prince. He is also be rumored to be involved in underground fight clubs
****Appearances In GTA IV****
The first time he appears is when he visits the Bank of Liberty branch in Algonquin during the bank robbery pulled off by the McReary brothers and Niko Bellic in the mission Three Leaf Clover. Fellow hostage Eugene Reaper suggested that they stand up to the robbers. Luis stated it was a bad idea, which was proven when Eugene killed Keane and was then shot dead by Packie and Derrick. Luis escaped unharmed when the surviving robbers fled the scene.
The second time, he ambushes the diamond deal that Niko was making with Isaac Roth on behalf of the Pegorinos in the mission Museum Piece. It could be assumed, after the events in Lost & Damned, that Luis' employer has sent him to retrieve the diamonds after The Lost ambush the first exchange at The Platypus.
The third time he went to the diamond/Gracie Ancelotti exchange with Gay Tony in the mission Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend.
Furthermore, during the end credits of The Lost And Damned, one recap of the museum scenario shows Luis trying to escape via the roof as Johnny and Niko escape by bike and car respectively. Luis dashes to a skylight, then begins to open fire at someone below.
****Who are the Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers****
The Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers are led by Willy Valerio and Teddy Benavidez. Valerio's lieutenants are the Gomez brothers, Alonso and Oscar. The small crew isn't strong compared to its local competition, namely the North Holland Hustlers and Spanish Lords, but they are known to have recently begun working with Liberty City's Mafia families. Luis Lopez, the Dominican bodyguard of club owner and Ancelotti associate of "Gay" Tony Prince, is also from Northwood and is a known friend of Valerio and the Gomez brothers. Benavidez is known to do business with the Pegorino Family through Ray Boccino.
****Rockstar's Comments on Speculaton****
Gamer speculation holds that GTA's second DLC episode, following Lost and Damned, will feature Dominican dope dealer Luis Fernando Lopez. Given the chance to deny it to Gametrailers, Rockstar's Jeronimo Barrera didn't.
"Those are some interesting dots to connect, that's all I have to say," Barrera told Gametrailers TV's Geoff Keighley.
Ash_735
02-23-2009, 04:54 AM
Every Man and his Dog knows it's going to be Luis now, many people guessed it before TLAD came out but after TLAD it pretty much seals the deal with him!
devil chevelle
02-23-2009, 05:02 AM
dont mean to rain on your parade but everything you have said there has been made into a thread or has been talked a lot about in a thread.but since you have taken the time to at least post all this information up and try to inform some people who the second dlc character is( as you can tell i dont say maybe or might i say who now because i am 98% sure its gonna be him) you deserve a thanks.i wanna tell you my opinion on how it may start i have the feeling the second dlc will start with you watching the bank job cutscene on the floor and luis stating how its not a good idea to intervene. from there my thoughts on what will happen vary he might try to go and go and steal some money that was left over, he might just walk out and get in his car and go drive up and see willy and tell him what just happened as a conversation piece and then the rest of the cutscene will be luis and willy talking about stuff that will be future events to come, or maybe you get out of there go see gay tony and say he the bank that your money is in just got robbed so i didnt make the withdraw (you never know this could be the reason gay tony wants those diamonds because he gets broke when the bank gets robbed), or maybe you just wait tell the noose come in and take all the hostages outside and then let them go and you just drive to willys place or your place. anyways those are some of my thoughts on what will happen on the second dlc.
lillb
02-23-2009, 06:40 AM
The second time, he ambushes the diamond deal that Niko was making with Isaac Roth on behalf of the Pegorinos in the mission Museum Piece. It could be assumed, after the events in Lost & Damned, that Luis' employer has sent him to retrieve the diamonds after The Lost ambush the first exchange at The Platypus, killing Gay Tony in the process.
The third time he went to the diamond/Gracie Ancelotti exchange with Gay Tony in the mission Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend.
just pointing out a flaw in your post
Gay Tony doesnt die when the Lost steal the diamonds
you kill his friend Evan
you also proved contradicted yourself in the next statement when u said Luis shows up with Gay Tony so he can't be dead.
Jimmy_86
02-23-2009, 08:26 AM
Just to add, I think this is copy pasted from somewhere as I'm sure I read this exact wording somewhere a week or two back.
MurphySk8
02-23-2009, 11:55 AM
Yeah, it's from the IGN boards. Same guy.
zeeshan810
02-23-2009, 02:58 PM
Give us the link of IGN! Basically you Just copied from another Website (IGN) and its not yours so yeah give us the link with it. :)
phreak
02-23-2009, 03:15 PM
The game will start in northern Algonquin and that should complete GTA IV's story.
So Niko starts off in Broker, Luis starts off in the Algonquin and Johnny starts off in Alderney so that's all three major islands.
MurphySk8
02-23-2009, 03:30 PM
He posted it on IGN's forums under almost the exact same screen-name. I'm saying it's the same guy. He posted it here for the people who don't go to both sites.
lillb
02-23-2009, 03:42 PM
i wanna tell you my opinion on how it may start i have the feeling the second dlc will start with you watching the bank job cutscene on the floor and luis stating how its not a good idea to intervene. from there my thoughts on what will happen vary he might try to go and go and steal some money that was left over, he might just walk out and get in his car and go drive up and see willy and tell him what just happened as a conversation piece and then the rest of the cutscene will be luis and willy talking about stuff that will be future events to come, or maybe you get out of there go see gay tony and say he the bank that your money is in just got robbed so i didnt make the withdraw (you never know this could be the reason gay tony wants those diamonds because he gets broke when the bank gets robbed), or maybe you just wait tell the noose come in and take all the hostages outside and then let them go and you just drive to willys place or your place. anyways those are some of my thoughts on what will happen on the second dlc.
I'm gonna have to disagree with your thoughts here.
I doubt his story will start at that point, I'm sure the first mission would probably be some job for Gay Tony, sort of like how in TLAD you picked up Billy and got his bike back. They didn't start the game at the drug deal Johnny goes to with Niko and Playboy X which was the first time Johnny was seen in GTA IV so I doubt they'd start with the bank job although I'm sure it will be in there and I'm sure they'll have some reason for him to be there not just conducting a simple deposit. And even if Gay Tony's money was in the bank he shouldn't be "broke" because of it since technically a bank should have insurance and not lose everyone's money if they get robbed.
But I will agree that its like 98% chance that Luis is the next character.
Jamezchidori
02-23-2009, 04:14 PM
Give us the link of IGN! Basically you Just copied from another Website (IGN) and its not yours so yeah give us the link with it. :)
Sad Face :( . I posted it on the IGN forums and here because they are my favorite GTA community's
http://boards.ign.com/grand_theft_auto/b5257/17735 8631/p1/?13
zeeshan810
02-23-2009, 04:18 PM
Sad Face :( . I posted it on the IGN forums and here because they are my favorite GTA community's
http://boards.ign.com/grand_theft_auto/b5257/17735 8631/p1/?13
I thought you copied someone Else's work and posted on this website! It alright! :)
devil chevelle
02-23-2009, 04:43 PM
the reason i say it starts from the bank is soley on the way they ended the credits with the lost and the damned. i think its gonna start with the bank and then do some missions part of me thinks also that it wont start that way and that it will be a mission to go to the bank and do something and then it gets robbed(and hopefully they dont tell you to go pick up the leftover cash cus that would be just plain dumb) also i dont think we will even know gay tony until a later part of the game he seems to be a major character and i have the feeling that you may do a mission and gay tony hears about it then he hires you as a body guard and thats when you start getting into the diamond deal storyline or maybe a few missions to warm up to the diamon deal subplot. but also do i want it to start at the bank job, no not really because i think there can be a lot of things to put in before that happens, and yes i know about the insurance thing that banks have but im kind of on the fence if rockstar will even put that detail in there if he was depostiting gay tonys money at all.
also a little thing on gay tony, when i played gta 4 i thought they just called him gay as a nickname but he didnt seem gay to me cus of 1. i thought maybe he was doin the nasty nasty with gracie 2. they didnt really eloborate on his sexuality on the online news or in his voice acting, but then again you only hear him talk once and it was kind of in a despair voice. but after i played the lost and the damned theres no dought in my mind hes gay.
yimpat
02-27-2009, 08:23 PM
I figured it would be him but where did you find out his name?
.LiLe.
02-27-2009, 10:20 PM
Any one has a screen shot of this Luis guy?
swallowed
02-28-2009, 01:39 PM
Any one has a screen shot of this Luis guy?
Yeah, here you go:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawiki/images/9/ 9c/Luis_Lopez.png
BigKal
03-05-2009, 04:46 PM
aw man! I have a PS3.. and I can seriosuly say Im not jealous of the Lost and Damned DLC.. I dont wanna play as a racist bike gang.. <-- its lame. If i had a xbox i wouldnt care for it basically..
But if the second DLC is luis and gangs then im jealous :(
no fairz. why do only xboxers gets to play as gangster black guy. I wanna play as thug blackie too :(
MY NUKKA LUIS IS A G! Damn xboxers!!! :mad: ENJOY!
edit:
wait a minute, fernando lopez?? This dude is half spanish??
:facepalm:
oh well. Peurtoricans can still be G.
Maybe luis is gonna be like Immortal Technique (PERUVIAN/BLACK) COOL:cool:
Ash_735
03-05-2009, 04:53 PM
aw man! I have a PS3.. and I can seriosuly say Im not jealous of the Lost and Damned DLC.. I dont wanna play as a racist bike gang.. <-- its lame. If i had a xbox i wouldnt care for it basically..
The Lost MC arn't Racist, well, one member is, Billy Grey, but the rest are not, hell, even one of the main characters in Black. It's the Angels of Death who are the full out Racists ones. Playboy X simply doesn't know his Biker Gangs and think's they're all Racists.
either way bikers are badass
yimpat
03-05-2009, 05:57 PM
aw man! I have a PS3.. and I can seriosuly say Im not jealous of the Lost and Damned DLC.. I dont wanna play as a racist bike gang.. <-- its lame. If i had a xbox i wouldnt care for it basically..
But if the second DLC is luis and gangs then im jealous :(
no fairz. why do only xboxers gets to play as gangster black guy. I wanna play as thug blackie too :(
MY NUKKA LUIS IS A G! Damn xboxers!!! :mad: ENJOY!
edit:
wait a minute, fernando lopez?? This dude is half spanish??
:facepalm:
oh well. Peurtoricans can still be G.
Maybe luis is gonna be like Immortal Technique (PERUVIAN/BLACK) COOL:cool:
That sounded more racist than any line in the LAD.
lillb
03-05-2009, 07:35 PM
That sounded more racist than any line in the LAD.
thats what i was thinking
The Lost MC arn't Racist, well, one member is, Billy Grey, but the rest are not, hell, even one of the main characters in Black. It's the Angels of Death who are the full out Racists ones. Playboy X simply doesn't know his Biker Gangs and think's they're all Racists.
Yup isn't Clay black?
and Many times in the story they refer to the AOD as those racist fucks or something like that
so obviously they don't see eye to eye on the racial thing
and on AOD website they say no one who isnt white has passed their tests or whatever
And Johnny works with Malc and Elizabeta which a racist biker wouldn't.
devil chevelle
03-06-2009, 01:33 AM
thats what i was thinking
Yup isn't Clay black?
and Many times in the story they refer to the AOD as those racist fucks or something like that
so obviously they don't see eye to eye on the racial thing
and on AOD website they say no one who isnt white has passed their tests or whatever
And Johnny works with Malc and Elizabeta which a racist biker wouldn't.
that guys post was just plain dumb. he obviously is dumb out of the asshole and has never heard of the dominican ethnicity which some of them look black but have spainish last names. luis on the other hand doesent even look black or sound black so this guy is a special case of dumbass.
but for racist bikers not working with other races is not true some more racial hells angel chapters like the one down in tampa florida work with other races all the time they get past there hatred to make a profit selling drugs to one race isnt going to bring in the dough. as a matter of fact a lot of those rascist gangs out there work with other races for instance the aryan brotherhood nazi lowriders pe#1 and various other black gangs like the cabbage patch crips and dirty old man crips and the black guerilla family will work with white gangs and latino gangs to make a profit. also even though the angels of death seem like a rascist gang even they have worked with a latino gang remeber snow storm, those guys were aod and he told the one guy the best stuff is made here in america.
lillb
03-06-2009, 01:26 PM
Yea i see your point just saying the way he treats them is with respect rather than just purely for the profit
Also he rarely if ever makes racial comments about anyone he deals with.
Like Ash said Billy was kinda racist but Johnny wasn't
The Shy Child.
03-06-2009, 01:50 PM
I think we all know that it is gonna be Luis now, I might have a 360 by then, hopefully, and I will buy it if I have live or not. One question though. Do you need to have bought the lost and damned to be able to play DLC#2. Just wondering.
lillb
03-06-2009, 02:47 PM
i doubt it
Since it should work just like TLAD i think you will only need the original game
MurphySk8
03-06-2009, 02:56 PM
aw man! I have a PS3.. and I can seriosuly say Im not jealous of the Lost and Damned DLC.. I dont wanna play as a racist bike gang.. <-- its lame. If i had a xbox i wouldnt care for it basically..
But if the second DLC is luis and gangs then im jealous :(
no fairz. why do only xboxers gets to play as gangster black guy. I wanna play as thug blackie too :(
MY NUKKA LUIS IS A G! Damn xboxers!!! :mad: ENJOY!
edit:
wait a minute, fernando lopez?? This dude is half spanish??
:facepalm:
oh well. Peurtoricans can still be G.
Maybe luis is gonna be like Immortal Technique (PERUVIAN/BLACK) COOL:cool:
Actually, not only are they not racist, Johnny absolutely hates "racist pricks" as he calls them. And Luis is Dominican. Completely Dominican from the descriptions I've read.
The Shy Child.
03-06-2009, 03:00 PM
Actually, not only are they not racist, Johnny absolutely hates "racist pricks" as he calls them. And Luis is Dominican. Completely Dominican from the descriptions I've read.
Yeah, I don't think R* are the type of company to make the main protaginest of the DLC racist. It would not have went down well.
devil chevelle
03-06-2009, 04:51 PM
I think we all know that it is gonna be Luis now, I might have a 360 by then, hopefully, and I will buy it if I have live or not. One question though. Do you need to have bought the lost and damned to be able to play DLC#2. Just wondering.
i dont think they will make you have the first one the only way i can think of them making you have the first one is if they add tlad weapons in the next dlc. one thing im hoping to see in the next dlc is more detail in characters like in gta 4 and a way more detailed storyline like in gta 4 also more of everything like theres supposed to be in expansion packs. now that i think about it if rockstar is dead set on having all the stuff in the tlad in the second dlc they may make you pay for it but like i said i dought it , you most def probably wont be able to have the music in the tlad in the second one. one big thing that they need to add in the next dlc is make it so all the cars and guns from all the dlcs go back on to gta 4 maybe except some of the guns in the tlad. some of those guns seem like very biker guns to me and using them with niko may seem weird to me for instance the automatic shotgun and the automatic pistol.
also i thought all you need is an online connection i dont think you need xbox live gold to buy any dlc microsoft hasent done that before with any other dlc so you may be able to save some money there.
Ash_735
03-06-2009, 05:34 PM
I'd say Mission Wise it will be the same, these are meant to be expansion packs, not full games, and for the price, they represent that quite well. I agree though, would like to see a patch for GTA IV that will port over AT LEAST the TV and Internet Content along with the Radio now (but inlcude ZiT data).
lillb
03-06-2009, 07:26 PM
also i thought all you need is an online connection i dont think you need xbox live gold to buy any dlc microsoft hasent done that before with any other dlc so you may be able to save some money there.
That's not entirely true. Some DLC is exclusive to Gold members first and Silver members usually get it like a month later or something.
I don't think the GTA DLC would be tho since I downloaded TLAD while I had a silver account ( granted I bought the code from gamestop)
DRzCalderon
03-10-2009, 03:25 AM
aw man! I have a PS3.. and I can seriosuly say Im not jealous of the Lost and Damned DLC.. I dont wanna play as a racist bike gang.. <-- its lame. If i had a xbox i wouldnt care for it basically..
But if the second DLC is luis and gangs then im jealous :(
no fairz. why do only xboxers gets to play as gangster black guy. I wanna play as thug blackie too :(
MY NUKKA LUIS IS A G! Damn xboxers!!! :mad: ENJOY!
edit:
wait a minute, fernando lopez?? This dude is half spanish??
:facepalm:
oh well. Peurtoricans can still be G.
Maybe luis is gonna be like Immortal Technique (PERUVIAN/BLACK) COOL:cool:
Luis Fernadi Lopez is not half black, nor puerto rican. He is Dominican.
MurphySk8
03-10-2009, 04:33 AM
Luis Fernadi Lopez is not half black, nor puerto rican. He is Dominican.
I mostly found it funny he said "I wanna' play as thug blackie too." while referring to a person of the Dominican persuasion, in the same post that he claimed to dislike a group of fictional people, on the basis that they were racist, when.. they're not. It's like a delicious soup of irony, that post. :P
mM1k3y
03-10-2009, 04:35 AM
well besides all that this sounds kinda cool
FTange
05-21-2009, 07:25 AM
It looks like everybody thinks the first time you see Jonny in the 'real' GTA 4 is in Museum piece. But the first time you meet him is actually in a mission from Elizabeth, where you have to sell some - think it's Heroin that the lost have stolen from the AOD - but the deal goes down when it's not some buyers but the LCPD who is watching them. This mission is both featured in Gta 4 and the lost and damned, in the LAD you escape down the stairs while playboy X and Nico get away by the roof.
Benson
05-27-2009, 02:10 PM
i wish it was Isaac for the impossible trinity.