[SPOILER WARNING] Credits!

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Ok, I'm not going to say much in the title, but if you're interested and not worried about spoilers, or have completed TLAD and GTA IV already, then scroll below.














































If anyone has seen the credits cutscenes, you will realize some pretty cool things happening. For example, Niko chases Ivan down on the roof tops, then the camera flys overhead, then when it reaches the basketball court you see Niko again, with that mission where you beat up Dardar. Another one shows Niko executing Vlad, with The Lost riding on the road nearby. Lastly (listen up), one cutscene shows Johnny fighting his way out in the Libertonian, while Niko is on the other side. When the screen is about to fade, you will see someone that appears to look like Luis appear from the roof and gun down some people.

I believe, Luis will be the third protagonist. This pretty much confirms it. Also, another mission in TLAD (Ray Boccino) has Luis in it too.

What do you guys think? Discuss!

[Sam B.]

I've seen the credits, thought they were brilliant, the story was awesome aswell, worth every penny

[zeeshan810]

I played it at my friends house,it was fukin' awesome. Nice details there! I saw Niko once Niko chases Ivan down on the roof tops I was in a hurry so I skipped the video to the gameplay and did missions*

[behzad_sol]

I don't think so, because one his missions would be at the Libertonian when he comes and messes the diamond meeting, he has to kill the people out there and so he has to kill Niko or Johnny, will R* make this mission to kill its Agents?!?!

[zeeshan810]

Watch this video at 1:38 looks like Niko is in a Cop Car chasing the Van full of TV's Dimitri's Mission! but why is he on the HIGHWAY (my guess)| And at 1:38 Niko pushes the HOBO and doesn't show his face except from the side and you can tell that's Niko because of its Jacket. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnZwdo2OFZs

[devil chevelle]

well didnt rockstar say at the end of the game you will know who the second dlc character is. i kinda new it was gonna be luis but i didnt think the very very end a.k.a credits. as for the story i liked it but it was so all over the place and you didnt get in depth with each character like you did in gta 4. it didnt keep up with nikos adventures to. for instance right when you take the diamonds off of gay tony like two minutes later the libertonian mission starts i think it takes some time for niko to actully get them out of trash bags and then kill the people who were supposed to drop it off.also the ending was sad two very depressing endings in a row although i liked the ending i just wish the lost were still alive rather then ending themselves. when i first started the game i was kind of confused at everything also a little irratated (because i got 4 hours of sleep and was trying to play this game i was really looking forward to) but later when i completed it i looked back on things and although some stuff was still confusing i did realize the whole story was pretty good. rockstar did pretty good for a first attempt at dlc and i must say im impressed for the second dlc i wont expect as much better in story because i have the feeling rockstar had this all planned out from the start but when it comes around to a whole nother gta i expect more depth and not so lost storyline.wheew

[MurphySk8]

It was good overall, but you don't really accomplish anything, which kinda' sucks. You end the game with less than what you started with. Hopefully Luis is a little more lucky. I'd hate to see the moral of the entire story be "Life sucks and all your friends die." :P Your gang and the clubhouse is really all you had at the start. You get a little money, but there's even less to spend it on, and once the majority of the people you meet are dead, you're living in a worn down apartment in the same section of town you started in. That's less than any other protagonist has gotten for beating the game, and the final mission felt kinda' anti-climactic. I think I expected too much. Eh, oh well. Still enjoyed it, and I don't really have an urge to go back to Niko just yet.

[Comeback209]

The ending was such a downer in the best way possible. Honestly, as much as i miss the club being this big one stop area to screw off in, I'm sick of the "game over, you rule the city!" style. It was one big downward spiral of bad karma that put you through hell for little to no gain. Loved it.

Also, the missions were a huge improvement. So much action and awesome gun fights. :3

[MurphySk8]

Yeah, it was definitely grittier, and I found it to be more challenging than Niko's 'adventure' was. I'm glad they didn't go the route of owning the entire city either, but another safehouse or two wouldn't hurt. As far as I can tell, after you beat the story, there's nowhere to watch TV now either, so if you hadn't seen the new shows or any of that, you're kinda' screwed on that save. I think what really bothered me is that I was really getting into the gang mentality and I felt like the story was really ramping up towards something big when it just kinda' ended. I think GTA IV may have spoiled me in that regard, considering how many earth-shattering moments there were that they could have just as easily ended the game with. The way the credits went definitely have me excited for the next one, though. They do make it pretty clear that Luis is gonna' be the next main character, and if you watch them all the way to the end, it goes to the shootout at the bank before fading to black. Considering that's where we were introduced to Luis, I think that's gonna' be where the next one starts, or it happens shortly after the intro.

[Havok]

Can someone just tell me what the ending was.
in detail please.

[zeeshan810]

Can someone just tell me what the ending was.
in detail please.

I thought you have the game because the thread title was "Spoiler Warning Credits" Do you have the game or you Just want to know the ending! :rolleyes:
I don't have a Xbox360 but I finished the game at my friend's house! I got a PS3.

[swallowed]

Watched the credits not that long ago and I'm almost certain that the protagonist for the next DLC is going to Luis.

Looks like we're going to another perspective on the Libertonian meeting.

[zeeshan810]

Watched the credits not that long ago and I'm almost certain that the protagonist for the next DLC is going to Luis.

Looks like we're going to another perspective on the Libertonian meeting.

Can you please tell the time by the spoiler I posted! :confused:

[swallowed]

That's the intro, i'm pretty sure, the one I'm talking about are the credits that play after you finish the storyline :P

[Termless]

Yea i saw niko & roman. And Luis is going to be the next person.

[Grimmy]

Can someone just tell me what the ending was.
in detail please.
ok SPOILERZ YA'LL


So Billy gets to prison and wants to rat you out and go into witness protection. You and what's left of your gang shoot through some waves of cops inside the prison and execute Billy. You then go back to the clubhouse and burn it to the ground. Credits roll.

[MurphySk8]

Haha. I just called that bug that Stubbs had me put in Bryce's car and it was Bernie (one of the soldiers Niko used to know, who's turned extremely gay) driving the car around. Cool thing is, he mentioned Luis and Tony Prince by name, which is another connection to the rest of the cast. So we've got two appearances during the course of The Lost and Damned, plus a mention by name over the phone, a shot of him during the credits, and then three appearances during Niko's storyline.

Assuming Luis is confirmed as the new protagonist, with Tony's ties to the Ancelottis, I think it's safe to say we'll be working for the mob again at some point. I just wonder if Luis' story will start during Three Leaf Clover like the last scene in the credits of TLAD seems to hint at, since it was his first appearance in Niko's storyline as well. I'd like to know if he was there for legal reasons or if he had some plans of his own and they ruined it. Also, if the storyline starts there, that's pretty far into Niko's storyline, whereas Johnny's starts even before Niko's first apartment has been burned down. Kinda' makes me think either Luis' story starts around the same time, or it goes on much longer, chronologically speaking, than Niko's did.

[EDIT] Been playing TLAD a little more since I beat it, and I'm enjoying it a lot more now. The ending's a bummer, no doubt about it, but I've come to the realization that being rich and unstoppable at the end of every one of these games is what makes it get boring. What's there to strive for or fight for anymore? I've just been riding around the neighborhood and when you look back on the story like I've been doing, it's not a sad ending. They did away with all the anarchy, and riding around town, you get the feeling Johnny and his 'brothers' are really free now. That's what Johnny wanted anyway, because he hated the idea of being a leader and wanted everyone to be equal. Now they are. Just a shame about Jim, since he seemed to be the only one who actually had something outside of it all. Jim's the one out of the gang I really started to like, so I kinda' guessed he'd be the one to go.

Looking back on it, it's almost got a Western vibe to it. They're a group of outlaws, riding on bikes rather than horses, and they have a sense of morality, a code that they live by, despite the legality of their actions, until Billy Grey (awesome Old Western name to begin with) comes back into the picture. He messes things up to a point where there's no going back to what they were, so they burn it all down, starting with its founder, and ride off into the sunset. Johnny doesn't need all the money or the cars or the penthouses or the fancy clothes, or even the drugged up girlfriend. He just needs his bike, a place to lay his head, and the guys left out of the gang who he really trusts. So he has less in the way of material things, but he's at a better place in his life. Adds a lot more impact to the ending I think, and the story as a whole. Even the name has a Western sound to it, plus the theme music. In the menus and during the not-so-happy parts especially, it reminds me of Megaton in Fallout 3, with the wailing harmonicas off in the distance. I wonder what the next one will be like, as far as the theme, overall feel and all that.

[JaredN]

MurphySk8, I think what you said perfectly sums up how I feel about this. I couldn't agree more with you, I really enjoyed the way they ended it.

[devil chevelle]

going through another play through of the game to try and understand it. the thing that bothers me most about the game is like all the past things they mension but thats all they do is mention it and they dont go further into that so while there mentionning that im trying to figure out whats goin on but by then there discussing whats going on now and then you start the mission. also in the beginning of the game it seemed like johnny didnt want the violence and just wanted to sell drugs and hang out with his gang and keep things steady yet rockstar contridicts that by letting the gang wars in so now you just drive around aimlessley and start shooting at gangs which is the exact opposite of what johnny wants. also there were times when billy was nice and johnny klebbitz was being an ass and i couldent figure out what was going on, also wtf happened with that drug deal with the chinese i thought maybe brian set it up or maybe it was just bad luck i dont know what happened but all i know it was definetely meant for billy to go to jail and for the ending to happen like it did. so for me some very confusing moments but hopefully i can figure them all out on the second play through and also try to give my self an own understanding at whats trying to be accomplished with the game. also if someone can explain to me why johnny just didnt want to lead his gang at the end of the game why did he just burn it down, in the begginging he was mad that he had to give up his leadership to billy cus he knew billy was gonna fuck shit up and then when he gets his leadership back in the middle of the game he is all weirded out about it. i dont know maybe im just overthinking it but this is one storyline i cannot wrap my head around.

[MurphySk8]

Well, like I said up there, I don't think it was the idea of losing leadership, because he feels they're all equals. He just didn't want to go back to the cultist bullshit that Grey was preaching. He was insane, and Johnny knew it.

[devil chevelle]

Well, like I said up there, I don't think it was the idea of losing leadership, because he feels they're all equals. He just didn't want to go back to the cultist bullshit that Grey was preaching. He was insane, and Johnny knew it.

ya your idea about the game probably makes the most sense

[phreak]

Pretty much every mission in TLAD >>>>> GTA IV. It was action after action after action. I really do wish Johnny's story was longer, like 20 missions longer. But for what we got, I'm very happy. And we all know Luis is the next protag as you see in the bank job, the diamond exchange at the museum, the deal with Gracie, and an early mission in TLAD at the docks. Plus the whole impossible trinity thing. I can't wait for DLC2 :)

[MurphySk8]

Neither can I. They managed to do quite a lot with this episode, and I'm really looking forward to the next one. We know the way Rockstar North works, so you know they've been working on the both of them simultaneously. The way they said it in interviews, they started work on Vice City right around the release of GTA III, and then they worked on San Andreas while Vice City was still in development, then the same with GTA IV. I'm sure they've already put a lot of work into the next episode, and I can't wait to get some more information on it. For now, I've got gang wars, races, and some seagulls to take out. :cool:

[devil chevelle]

well it originally was supposed to come out in august but then it came out this month so hopefully it takes dlc#2 only six months so hopefully it will come out in august with no delays but we all know how game companys are nowadays so ya.

[MurphySk8]

I hope so. I get a little impatient with stuff like that, but the more work they put into it the better, I suppose. If they worked a couple more months and managed to extend the story without hindering the quality, I'd definitely be all for that.

[zeeshan810]

Niko is also chasing Vlad when the credits start in the beginning the then you see Roman's Cab Depot is burning and Niko stops the car to see and Roman is sitting in the car too.You know the mission where Roman's Cab Depot and the Safe House is burning.

That is Luis on the ROOF TOP shooting. Because Luis was wearing a Jacket Black and White and the guy on the roof top is wearing the same Jacket..THAT's a Vantage Point where Niko,Johnny,and Luis Met.

So Basically I'm giving proof that the next GTA DLC#2 Protagonist is going to be Luis! :)

[Slim Trashman]

The credits were so fucking cool. And I actually completely missed who it was gunning down people from the roof, so thanks for pointing that out!

[zeeshan810]

The credits were so fucking cool. And I actually completely missed who it was gunning down people from the roof, so thanks for pointing that out!

Finished the game and for you Slim found this video at youtube HD Quality, Watch the Credit Video and at 7:01you will see Luis running on the roof top! :)
Enjoy :D

0W3LERVSpIo

[Tyler]

Yup, i sure as bright as a sun flower, saw Luis running across that rooftop, there. :)

[zeeshan810]

yeah..I think like all the people who bought this TLAD saw Luis in the end running on the rooftop! I finished it at my friends house because he had a xbox360 and I had a ps3 so yeah. :)

[lillb]

i think the credits were one of the best parts of it
it definitely tied together some points in the two stories and definitely gave a big hint about luis's involvement in the next episode
also seeing memorable missions from GTA IV was awesome from a new perspective

[MurphySk8]

I'm actually tempted to get Chinatown Wars just so I can continue Liberty City's story, and I haven't gotten a DS game in years.

[Tyler]

i didnt watch the credits until now, and now that i think about it, Luis doesnt seem familiar to me, i dont remember him.
:(

offtopic: Murphy, are you from IGN, too?

[Slim Trashman]

I think what should be really interesting about the next episode, assuming that it IS Luis' story, is that from Niko and Johnny's perspective, Luis is an antagonist. Niko and Johnny, together were always on the same team, but apart were always fucking over each other without recognizing it, and Luis is straight up playing for the other team.

Playing the same story from different perspectives is absolutely genius writing IMO. I have a feeling more will be revealed about Niko's past in the next episode, given Luis has relations with Mr. Bulgarin.