GTA IV DLC: The Lost and Damned available February 17th, 2009

[Skillet]

Courtesy of USA Today.

The upcoming episode of the video game Grand Theft Auto IV looks to be a wild one.
GTA IV, which was released in April for the Xbox 360 and Sony PlayStation 3, focused on former Eastern European soldier Niko Bellic and his escalating life of crime in the boroughs of Liberty City. This new episode, available Feb. 17 via download exclusively for those who own the Xbox 360 version (no price yet), stars Johnny Klebitz, a member of Liberty City biker gang The Lost.

"Johnny is a very different character than Niko, with a very different background," says Dan Houser, vice president of creative development for Rockstar Games. "I can't go into too much detail on the story, because we try not to give away too much plot before the game is released. But I can say that the story will show you a different side of Liberty City."

The episode, titled The Lost and Damned, requires players to have the full version of the Mature-rated GTA IV (ages 17 and older) and an Xbox Live membership to download. It's likely to carry an M rating, too. (Parents can use the Xbox 360's parental controls to prevent children from accessing inappropriate content.)


http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/2008-11-19-gta-damned_N.htm

[Fry]

Comes out on my birthday, Coincidence i think not.

[rappo]

Very nice! I'm glad they're not adding more gametime with Niko - good character, but I think that's enough of him. It will be nice to get a look at the story from a whole new perspective. Although Klebitz was a pretty minor character, I don't doubt that they'll make it interesting!

[Legham]

Yeah, i was expecting it to be more storyline. I'm glad its not an extended map or extra things worth having.

[[KFC]-ScharK]

I'd rather have this than anything else really. I love the story.

[victim]

This is actually really cool. I remember in the mission 'No Way on The Subway' after you kill the two bikers Niko tells Ray that Johnny wasn't there, to which Ray says, "Some other guys are meant to be taking care of him."

I'd love to find out what actually happens. Shame I don't have a 360.

[JRussell89]

Personally, I think this is nice turn for the game. A different perspective on the events of the game will be cool to see. Too bad I have a PS3, epic fail.:facepalm:

[Jaytow]

I'm happy that we have a more western character.... Could be good.

[Zidane]

Neat. Too bad my copy of GTA4 crapped out after a random 360 update.

[Neil]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/artwork/ldlo go.jpg



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[Chrissy_Lad]

Nice stuff, looks pretty good! Can we ever expect to see this the ps3?

[Neil]

Nice stuff, looks pretty good! Can we ever expect to see this the ps3?

I doubt it. Microsoft gave Rockstar $50m to keep it exclusive to Xbox 360.

[Jaytow]

Does anyone know if this is set the same time as IV, before or afterwards?

and is that blanch from correy? Rofl.

[rappo]

They haven't mentioned an exact time, but in that USA Today article Houser says that Niko will play a little part. So that means that Niko most likely had to already have arrived in Liberty City - making the DLC take place at the same time as or after GTA IV's story.

[Ash_735]

They haven't mentioned an exact time, but in that USA Today article Houser says that Niko will play a little part. So that means that Niko most likely had to already have arrived in Liberty City - making the DLC take place at the same time as or after GTA IV's story.

I'd be willing to say it takes place the same time as Nikos story, since Niko is meant to have a quick cameo in it, easiest way possible would be to have the story set at the same time, which means playing the mission "Blow Your Cover" and "Museum Piece" from Johnnys point of view, plus we'd get to deal with the hitmen that Ray sends after Johnny in the same story too.

[5tatic]

Looks pretty good. Unfortunate that PS3 owners won't get this.

[Chrissy_Lad]

Yeh Im a ps3 owner and i'm pretty gutted! Might but a 360 now lol...

[leelee862]

Fucking yes!! You actully get to play as Johnny! WOW..is all I can say really. Johnny was one of the more minor characters but I loved him. He was bad ass. Can't..freaking..wait. I knew that there was a good reason why they kept him alive. Hopefully this new story will tie up a few loose ends from Niko's story.

[MurphySk8]

My guess for the plot would be that you start out as a lower level thug working for The Lost, it sets up the story of how the original leader went to jail, and then you take over and the story crosses over GTA IV's in the two points where Johnny and Niko are actually in the same room. If it started after the beginning of GTA IV, you'd most likely already be the leader of the gang. I'm thinking there'll be a lot of biker gang warfare and you'll be dealing with the Ancellottis and the other families.

[zeeshan810]

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7425/gtatopperu y1.jpg

You guys didn't add this Image.
I will sure download this DLC for 360.

[GrungeRockCity]

Pisses me off it's not going to the PS3. If it was just the storyline being different and new missions, I could probably live. But now hearing all this other stuff that's surfaced, it just pisses me off. Fucking Microsoft. It should be on BOTH consoles. >.<

[leelee862]

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7425/gtatopperu y1.jpg

Oh...my...shit. *Drools*. That's going up as my background! Johnny's a freakin' bad ass.

I thought that Rockstar would just give Johnny a bigger part in Niko's story and just have Niko eventually kill Johnny off but they've actually come up with a whole freakin' story for him AND they're making him a playable character..just...AHHHHH....awesome!! I'm seriously acting like a little kid here. I'm 19 but acting like a 5 year old with a 50p piece. I just can't wait for this :D

Just wondering though, as i've never downloaded anything off live, and will only be setting up a connection and getting live for the downloadable content, how will this work? Do you download it to the disc itself or your hard drive(of which, I don't have..yet)?

[Chrissy_Lad]

YEA RUB IT IN....:(...wonder how much it cost? suppose cant put a price on greatness...

[MurphySk8]

Don't own a PS3 myself, but I would definitely prefer the DLC be on both platforms. Sure, there's that urge to support the 'home team', but exclusives are a joke to me. It's almost always a timed exclusive, like the Metal Gear games, but this is looking more permanent, which sucks. A lot of my friends only have PS3's and the 360 keeps getting exclusives with this stuff. I used to be a huge Sony fan before this generation of consoles, so I'd like to see their more loyal fans rewarded from time to time. :P At least there's Little Big Planet.

[Ash_735]

The fact is, Microsoft paid $50 Million for this shit, Rockstarm like any other company, don't give a shit about loyality and fanbase when $50 Million is shoved in their face! Don't like it and want it to be on the PS3? Well go to Rockstar Games with $50 Million, then I'm sure they would port it over to PS3 then!

[claud3]

So we will actually play as a gang member. Not a Person just doing jobs for them cool

I really hope it comes to the PS3

[leelee862]

Just been reading up on it and one website says that "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned requires players to have the full version of Grand Theft Auto IV for Xbox 360 and Xbox LIVE membership to download". What do they mean by "the full version"?

[Ash_735]

Probs just a mistake, or it might mean it will require GTA IV to be installed to the hard drive first, then the download for The Lost and Damned can happy and it patches over the game? In effect, a big mod over the original game.

[MurphySk8]

Just means you need GTA IV to play it, just like Shivering Isles needs Oblivion. Whether the game's in the disc tray or installed to the harddrive, that's up to you.

[leelee862]

Oooh right, makes sense now. Cheers you 2 :)

[Slim Trashman]

Does anyone know how much Sony originally paid Rockstar for exclusivity of the series, which turned out to be temporary when the double pack was released for Xbox? For all we know it too could have been $50 million. So without all the facts I don't know how safe it is to say that Microsoft's $50 million makes a difference in the long run.

Regardless of the numbers, we all should have a pretty basic understanding of Rockstar's definition of "exclusive" has proven to be.

Anyway, GTA IV: L&D sounds pretty cool. I like the idea that it is focused around a character who never played a major role in Niko's story. I assume his story will occur concurrently with Niko's, perhaps even beginning before Niko's started.

I'm curious to see what the new vehicles and weapons will be, and how they will be thrown into the mix, not to mention the expanded soundtrack and multiplayer modes. Not that it makes a difference on my part, being a PS3 owner, but I wonder if this new content will be available in the "standard game" once you've downloaded L&D. I would be strange for it not to be.

[claud3]

It was $55 million for all the D.L.C rights for now and future D.L.C's on the X-box360. But one thing we do know is that all D.L.C's on the X-box system will make there way to the PS3 unless there is totally Different D.L.C's getting made for the PS3 system only

[JRussell89]

Claud3 might just be on to something. R* is a smart company and I'm fairly certain they won't leave PS3 owners out in the cold. A different character with other avenues to explore is not entirely out of the realm of possibility. I remain hopeful. Either way, the screenshots look really cool. I may have to get me a 360 after all.:)

[claud3]

I think it would make more sense to make Totally new D.L.C's for the PS3 system rather than copy the X-box360 ones over. That means both system's have there own unique D.L.C's

[lillb]

its all speculation about the ps3 gettin DLC no1 knows for sure except maybe rockstar
i am excited that we finally have some info and a date for this DLC just a few weeks ago i was tellin my friend how annoying it is that they havent announced a thing about it

[iKlipse]

If it isn't released for PS3 then R* can lick my balls, this "exclusive" shit makes me lose interest in them all together. I should have payed $50 for GTA IV instead of $120 for this... In the long run, I am missing out stuff from the game that I have the right to see no matter which console I own.

If it stays exclusive then GTA IV will be the last GTA bought from me. Fuck buying another one.
If PS3 gets exclusive content, different to the 360.. Then still people are missing out on parts they would like to see and that still shits me.

[.LiLe.]

Badass I like it.

[X-Ecutioner]

I doubt it. Microsoft gave Rockstar $50m to keep it exclusive to Xbox 360.

Exclusive to Xbox 360 only means the Xbox 360 gets it first.. Dont stress.. the ps3 will get it. Just later in the year


Like when Vice city first came out.. it was "Exclusive" to the ps2. Later, the PC and xbox got it.

[Slim Trashman]

So did anyone else notice the IV is smaller and the bevel effect was removed in the logo?!

I sure did.

[Olin]

Microsoft paid $50,000,000 for DLC to remain permanently exclusive as far as anyone's known.

I'm not sure how much Sony paid, but their relationship with Rockstar at the time was considered "timed exclusive" for the GTA titles.

[Ash_735]

There is a 50/50 chance it will arrive on the PS3 much later, but people forget, Sony got the exclusive "Stories" games, even years after release they haven't been released on PC or Xbox, don't you guys think that is a little unfair that PC and Xbox owners can't play those games? No, I didn't see you guys bitching then either. It will either come out much later lkike a year or so, or it will remain exclusive just like the stories games.

[Jimmy_86]

This "argument" brings a tear to my eye. It takes me back to the time before GTA IV's release.

Anyway, this looks really good and it's nice to see they've included the variety of content they have. I didn't see any mention of this for PC so that must be a typo by rappo on the front page...?

[claud3]

We hope a D.L.C comes to the PS3. We will be very lonely over here in Sony Land

[Jaytow]

Just been reading up on it and one website says that "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned requires players to have the full version of Grand Theft Auto IV for Xbox 360 and Xbox LIVE membership to download". What do they mean by "the full version"?

It may mean that the censored version (in australlia I think) will not get the DLC?

[Ash_735]

It may mean that the censored version (in australlia I think) will not get the DLC?

No, as Rockstar mentioned in the e-mail, you need the full game already, even censored versions are the full game.

[claud3]

Even with the censored versions will they have to Make the D.L.C's censored just for them versions

[Ash_735]

Well no, because the things censored are already done, the DLC will be running off GTA IV kind of like a big Mod, certain blood splats, tracks, etc and the hooker thing have already been censored in the Aus version of the game so there is no need to touch them.

[claud3]

Ok fair enough. But it still sucks though. That it is all sortted out even on the D.L.C you would of thought they would have give them some blood, Splat etc...

[Jaytow]

So GTAIV has shown us LC from an immigrants point of view.
Episode 1 Will show us LC from a bikers point of view.
China town wars will show us the city from an asian gangsters point of view.

Episode 2? Mobster? I always thought that the other liberty families were hinted at too much to never play a role.

[claud3]

But most of the gangs are low key now. So i do not see them playing a bigger role in the future

[leelee862]

So GTAIV has shown us LC from an immigrants point of view.
Episode 1 Will show us LC from a bikers point of view.
China town wars will show us the city from an asian gangsters point of view.

Episode 2? Mobster? I always thought that the other liberty families were hinted at too much to never play a role.

Phil Bell maybe? Now that would be cool. I liked PB. He was one of the very few characters to actually survive Niko's story so who knows, maybe there's a reason why.

Although I think episode 2 will involve Bulgarin in one way or another.

They've used certain characters in such a way that they can have their own stories. Johnny and his involvement with a lot of LC's criminals. Bulgarin and his unseen history with Niko. Phil Bell and the whole thing with his ex wife. Then there's Packie and his crew, the history with his father. There are a lot of possibilities really. They could keep the GTA IV story going for a couple more years really.

[Ash_735]

The way GTA IV was done, the detail in the story, anyone could have a game, even Jon Gravelli, when he mentioned the things he done back in thje 70's and how he spared the head of the Ancelotti at the time made me think that he could probs have a game to.

[leelee862]

The way GTA IV was done, the detail in the story, anyone could have a game, even Jon Gravelli, when he mentioned the things he done back in thje 70's and how he spared the head of the Ancelotti at the time made me think that he could probs have a game to.

Ahh yes, very true.

Now how could would it be to actually play through everybodies story!

[Jaytow]

It would be great to play as phill although I think we'll get a more unexpected small time character.


It now makes sense why a couple of months ago the Michael Hollick (Spelling <<) said he hadnt been reinvited to do voices for DLC.

[claud3]

So any news on who is doing the voice for the D.L.C main character

[Jaytow]

So any news on who is doing the voice for the D.L.C main character

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3009548/ and I don't see them reinventing LC to make it the 70s but I see what you're saying.. Rockstar gave each character such an interesting background that it could be anyone.

[leelee862]

It would be great to play as phill although I think we'll get a more unexpected small time character.

Yep, most likely. I wouldn't mind playing as Gordon or Saint Michael. They were pretty cool.

[Jaytow]

Yep, most likely. I wouldn't mind playing as Gordon or Saint Michael. They were pretty cool.
I think jermaine, the guy who you pick up for roman has a bigger part to play.

[lillb]

hmm maybe going back to when the Mccreary's ran the city
like when ur driving with packie and he's tellin u how his family used to be powerful

[claud3]

cheers Jaytow. So what else can we expect to see and do in this D.L.C

[Jaytow]

Well, What we know for sure:

New characters
New missions
New weapons
New veichles
New Songs
New Multiplayer content

We can assume that the new character (sorry I've forgot his name) will have different friends to niko with, well probabily different activities.
We can also assume that he will have his own safhouse (or many) that differ to Nikos.

I don't think we yet know what part he plays in the biker gang but he will probabily either already be or work up to one of the top members, gang features ? *fingers crossed*

I want buyable properties but I don't see that until the next GTA.

Wouldnt it be really good if his storyline took place at the same time as nikos and it tied together like pulp fiction?

My guess is that the main story for the new episode will take around 10 hours to complete and we will probabily get biker side missions along with bike races.

[TomFratelli]

Yay!
Im guessing 2400 MP

[sydburn]

wait who is this Johnny guy? i don't remember him at all.....did u kill him as Niko...i might play again to remember him...also what exclusive missions did the PS get? though i read someone that said the PS got exculsive missions that nv showed up on the PC or Xbox...

[Jaytow]

wait who is this Johnny guy? i don't remember him at all.....did u kill him as Niko...i might play again to remember him...also what exclusive missions did the PS get? though i read someone that said the PS got exculsive missions that nv showed up on the PC or Xbox...

You did a few missions for elizabeta with him.

[Ash_735]

You meet him in "Blow Your Cover" you meet him in Elizabetas apartment party, after that he leaves to get the Heroin. You and Playboy X drive to the place where you meet up with Johnny again who starts the deal, before getting uneasy and calling the deal off, just as the undercovers reveal themselves as the LCPD. You and Playboy X fight out through the roof, whilst Johnny legs it away with the Heroin through the other side of the building.

In the mission "Museum Piece", Ray has you meet with him outside the Middle Park Museum, Here you and Johnny exchange a few words laughing and hoping this deal goes better than last time. When inside, after the Diamonds are shown and Money is put down, a gang attack and kill the Diamond buyers. As you quickly turn and take cover, Johnny drops to the floor, grabs the bag of money and decides to belt it out of there quickly before backup arrive. This is the last time you see Johnny in the game.

In the mission "No Way on the Subway" Ray orders you to kill Johnny, you go to a place where you meet two of his Biker friends, they attempt to get away but you kill them, you then call Ray who mentions that he's put a hit on Johnny and that someone else will be dealing with him.

[leelee862]

You meet him in "Blow Your Cover" you meet him in Elizabetas apartment party, after that he leaves to get the Heroin. You and Playboy X drive to the place where you meet up with Johnny again who starts the deal, before getting uneasy and calling the deal off, just as the undercovers reveal themselves as the LCPD. You and Playboy X fight out through the roof, whilst Johnny legs it away with the Heroin through the other side of the building.

In the mission "Museum Piece", Ray has you meet with him outside the Middle Park Museum, Here you and Johnny exchange a few words laughing and hoping this deal goes better than last time. When inside, after the Diamonds are shown and Money is put down, a gang attack and kill the Diamond buyers. As you quickly turn and take cover, Johnny drops to the floor, grabs the bag of money and decides to belt it out of there quickly before backup arrive. This is the last time you see Johnny in the game.

In the mission "No Way on the Subway" Ray orders you to kill Johnny, you go to a place where you meet two of his Biker friends, they attempt to get away but you kill them, you then call Ray who mentions that he's put a hit on Johnny and that someone else will be dealing with him.


Damn you Ash! I thought I finally had something to type out this evening. Oh well.

Couldn't of explained it better myself :)

[Jimmy_86]

Jaytow made a good point about the cut version of the game. If someone in Australia has imported the uncut UK version, will the DLC they get from their (presumably Australian) Live account work with that UK disc or will they need to access Live with a "UK" account?

[lillb]

i dont think it should matter because the things that were cut are core parts of the game so the download will just add the story/vehicles/weapons and mp stuff and the other core elements of the game will be taken from the original

[Jimmy_86]

Yeah but will they be compatible is my question? DLC is often not compatible across regions or a different version of the game disc.

[Thomas B.]

Maybe R* could be making some DLC for PS3, too. It'd be cool to control Packie.

[lillb]

yea it would be cool if they did packie or one of his brothers and showed the mccreary's in their prime

[phreak]

What is sad is that Microsoft are using this to combat Killzone 2, as they release on the same day. The "general" PS3 owner wouldn't give two shits about this DLC. Longtime fans of the series are different of course.

[Chigurh]

*starts to get excited*

*looks at PS3*

Damn you Microsoft. T_T

[JRussell89]

I think there are a majority of PS3 owners who are interested. Once again, I don't know the numbers but a considerable amount of PS2 sales were as a result of III, VC, and SA. My initial thought is that there would be DLC for PS3, just different than whatever was going to be released on 360. I, however, was wrong.:(

[}{oT~dEv1L 666]

So did anyone else notice the IV is smaller and the bevel effect was removed in the logo?!

I sure did.
Yes, I did notice. The first thing I've noticed was the samller "IV". Kinda weird after all these while. Makes me think that maybe the designer of the logo may have lost the original copy or something... Or maybe this is just a temporary logo, just like when GTA IV was just announced, maybe Chinatown Wars' logo will get a bevel effect too.

The fact is, Microsoft paid $50 Million for this shit, Rockstarm like any other company, don't give a shit about loyality and fanbase when $50 Million is shoved in their face! Don't like it and want it to be on the PS3? Well go to Rockstar Games with $50 Million, then I'm sure they would port it over to PS3 then!

Why not just save that money and shell out a couple of hundred bucks for an Xbox 360?

[Jaytow]

I'm hopeing to see a video before christmas.

Anyone have oppinions on how long the storyline will take to complete? I bet 10 hours.

[claud3]

it seems so. 10 Hours as everyone is saying

[lillb]

yea i say 10 bucks for 10 hours seems relatively fair i hope its not more money for less time

[Ænemy]

I just hope their is more than story line. More vehicles and shit. That'd be awesome. But I really hope their isn't a serious price tag on the DLC. If it is like 1200 points, I ain't buying it. I'd rather spend the money on something more meaningful to me.

I would wish for more humor and more innovative stuff. I highly doubt it will come though.

[Jaytow]

Well the story and veichles were already confirmed and so was the american price, it's 20 dollars.. Which means us in the U.k will probabily pay around 20 pound because we get it up the rear as far as electronics are concerned.

[}{oT~dEv1L 666]

I just hope their is more than story line. More vehicles and shit. That'd be awesome. But I really hope their isn't a serious price tag on the DLC. If it is like 1200 points, I ain't buying it. I'd rather spend the money on something more meaningful to me.

I would wish for more humor and more innovative stuff. I highly doubt it will come though.

The DLC will come with:

New Missions
New Soundtrack
New Vehicles
New Weapons

It will cost around 1600 Microsoft Points, which is the price of about Two Halo 3 Legendary Map Packs. This is definitely more worth than 6 Multiplayer Halo Maps!

[lillb]

yea when compared to multiplayer maps it will actually be a good deal cause i'm sure it will be alot more fun
I was stupid enough to buy the map pack for COD4 and i paid 800 ms points and it was a disappointment
just glad its not as much as shivering isles which was like 2400 i think
but this is probably not as long as SI

[Ash_735]

I just hope their is more than story line. More vehicles and shit. That'd be awesome. But I really hope their isn't a serious price tag on the DLC. If it is like 1200 points, I ain't buying it. I'd rather spend the money on something more meaningful to me.

I would wish for more humor and more innovative stuff. I highly doubt it will come though.

The game comes with:
A New Storyline with a New Lead Character (Lasting around 10 Hours) [GTA4 was touted as having a 30 Hour Storyline]
A New Soundtrack (Currently Unknown but will include new songs on Most of the Radio Stations)
New Weapons (Currently Unknown but is more than a few guns)
New Vehicles (Currently Unknown but is suppose to be more than a few Cars and Bikes)
New Clothing (New Main Character will have different options in clothing stores)
New Multiplayer Modes (Currently Unknown but is rumoured to be around 4 new co-op games)

Judging from the price this will be around 1600 Microsoft Points so it is clearly out of your range already, shame you won't get to see it. :P

[Jimmy_86]

A New Soundtrack (Currently Unknown but will include new songs on Most of the Radio Stations)

Are you sure about that? I thought it was still unclear as to whether it meant new songs inserted into existing stations or additional station(s).

[Ash_735]

They liceneced a whole heap of songs that never appeared in GTA4, songs that would fit on the current stations, it only makes sense if these songs were to appear in the DLC, but then again, wouldn't be the first time they go music and didn't use it (see Vice City).

[Jimmy_86]

Ah yes, I remember you mentioning some other Fat Joe song, plus there's the Airbourne one which I didn't think would fit into any station too well.

As for Vice City, I only remember a couple of songs, Boys Don't Cry & Hold the Line wasn't it? Hold the Line of course ended up on K-DST in San Andreas.

[claud3]

The game comes with:
A New Storyline with a New Lead Character (Lasting around 10 Hours) [GTA4 was touted as having a 30 Hour Storyline]
A New Soundtrack (Currently Unknown but will include new songs on Most of the Radio Stations)
New Weapons (Currently Unknown but is more than a few guns)
New Vehicles (Currently Unknown but is suppose to be more than a few Cars and Bikes)
New Clothing (New Main Character will have different options in clothing stores)
New Multiplayer Modes (Currently Unknown but is rumoured to be around 4 new co-op games)

Judging from the price this will be around 1600 Microsoft Points so it is clearly out of your range already, shame you won't get to see it. :P

This a great collection of stuff they are adding. I can not wait to see the new vehicles, clothes, weapons and listen to the new songs.

[lillb]

yea i can't wait either claud3 its coming out a little before my birthday so i'll prob get it as an early birthday present to myself :)

[claud3]

it would be a great gift. So with all this great staff

Will it make you go throught for a second go

[lillb]

what do u mean by go through for a second go?

[phreak]

So I'm playing through GTA IV again and you know when Roman gets kidnapped? Well after you rescue him he sends you a text claiming that it was biker that did the job. Didn't really apply to me the first few times I played through the game, but now it could mean that it was Johnny or someone associated with his gang that did it.

I dunno, just something I came across.

[claud3]

Lilld. what i menan is after completing the 10 hours of the d.l.c will you play it again

[lillb]

So I'm playing through GTA IV again and you know when Roman gets kidnapped? Well after you rescue him he sends you a text claiming that it was biker that did the job. Didn't really apply to me the first few times I played through the game, but now it could mean that it was Johnny or someone associated with his gang that did it.

I dunno, just something I came across.

wow really? i never noticed that that could be another tie-in point to the GTA IV story besides the 2 times u actually see johnny

Lilld. what i menan is after completing the 10 hours of the d.l.c will you play it again

oh that totally depends on how good it is
i've already played through GTA IV twice

[claud3]

i hope it is worthy of playing throught again. Only if it is good

[mM1k3y]

yeah and if its not than you will have to wait for the second one

[Ash_735]

wow really? i never noticed that that could be another tie-in point to the GTA IV story besides the 2 times u actually see johnny

Oh there is plenty in GTA IV, listen to news reports about Bikers and their wars, look up Johnny and his gang in the LCPD Database, LOADS of information hinting at the story in TLAD, also ChinaTown Wars details are in GTA IV too, look up Huang Lee on the LCPD Database to get his backstory and gang details and who he's involved with. They are crap at PC Games but Rockstar are good with Continuity and Story :P

[mM1k3y]

i guess you can find the person that will be in the next DLC too

[Ash_735]

Lot of Names in the Database, I'd say only around 25% are seen or mentioned at least once in GTA IV. There are around 11 or so names linked to Johnny and Biker Gangs and I'm pretty sure there are some charcters coming back who were only seen in GTA IV once, mainly the boyfriend of Faustins Daughter whi Niko has to kill, those two Bikers that Ray has Niko kill and Ray's girlfriend (who only appears in one cutscene, the one who does Meth) as she is linked into Biker Gangs quite a bit because she is the ex-boyfriend of the Leader of The Lost gang.

[claud3]

ash_735. So if the d.l.c is any good will you play it a second time throught

[Jaytow]

Lot of Names in the Database, I'd say only around 25% are seen or mentioned at least once in GTA IV. There are around 11 or so names linked to Johnny and Biker Gangs and I'm pretty sure there are some charcters coming back who were only seen in GTA IV once, mainly the boyfriend of Faustins Daughter whi Niko has to kill, those two Bikers that Ray has Niko kill and Ray's girlfriend (who only appears in one cutscene, the one who does Meth) as she is linked into Biker Gangs quite a bit because she is the ex-boyfriend of the Leader of The Lost gang.

If the mafia doesnt play a huge role in TLAD then I think that it will definatley play one in the next episode, they are mentioned just as much of the bikers. Now that TLAD has been confirmed I can't believe I didnt get some of the rather obvious signs.