Sony UK boss on DLC: 'Nothing is ever exclusive' [Archive]

Shazly

10-29-2008, 02:18 PM

Sony Computer Entertainment UK managing director Ray Maguire has told VideoGamer.com that "nothing is ever exclusive" in response to questions surrounding exclusive DLC on Microsoft's Xbox 360.

Microsoft has tied up Xbox 360 exclusive downloadable content for some of this year's biggest games, including GTA 4, Fallout 3 and Tomb Raider: Underworld, leading to complaints from some PS3 owners that Sony isn't doing enough for them.

However, speaking to VideoGamer.com at the Games 3.0 conference in London earlier this week, Maguire rejected those complaints, saying he would "much rather that we (Sony) were investing money into making sure that we've got great R&D and we start producing games like LittleBigPlanet rather than paying other people a huge amount of money to stop people playing their product."

Maguire's "nothing is ever exclusive" comment is certain to add fuel to speculation that the high profile GTA 4 DLC that is due for release exclusively on the Xbox 360 will eventually make its way to the PS3.

Back in May, SCEE boss David Reeves told VideoGamer.com in that PS3-owners "probably will see" GTA 4 DLC, and described the deal as "the last shot they (Microsoft) have".

When asked if he had any message for PS3-owners who feel frustrated at the fact that they won't be have access to downloadable content for GTA 4, Fallout 3 and Tomb Raider: Underworld, Maguire replied: "One thing to remember, nothing is ever exclusive. Things get wrapped up for a period of time for a large amount of money and if it's a strategic decision by competition to do that then we have to live with that."

He added: "Obviously, what we have to do is make sure that our business plan is adhered to and we have the amount of money to invest in games rather than investing in stopping other people making games and progressing. So I would much rather that we were investing money into making sure that we've got great R&D and we start producing games like LittleBigPlanet, rather than paying other people a huge amount of money to stop people playing their product."

When we pressed Maguire on the subject, asking him directly if exclusive Xbox 360 DLC might eventually come to the PS3, he dodged the issue, saying: "You have to remember that most third-party publishers of course have a business proposition that covers all platforms. With our own of course it's different because our investment would purely be on our own platforms, and that's the same as any first party. That's a small part of the overall offering nowadays and the days of big exclusives, I think they were over a couple of years ago but they're certainly over now."

Be sure to check the site later this week for VideoGamer.com's interview with Ray Maguire in full.

What do you think? Will Xbox 360 exclusive DLC eventually come to the PS3? Would you prefer Sony to invest in R&D than in exclusive DLC? Let us know in the comments section below.

Source:
http://www.videogamer.com/news/29-10-2008-9789.html

Ash_735

10-29-2008, 02:23 PM

Sony: Nothing is ever exclusive, ...and we fucking know! :(

}{oT~dEv1L 666

10-30-2008, 09:47 AM

Oh yea, nothing is ever exclusive. We took your word for that, and now we've got Final Fantasy XIII on the Xbox 360! And maybe even Metal Gear Solid 4, is that a hint?

But then again, if nothing is ever exclusive, what about Halo 3?

TimBud

10-30-2008, 09:58 AM

By the time its not exlcusive anymore, the next GTA will be out and it won't matter.
All the Sony can say about the GTAIV DLC is complete PR bullshit, because they will never have access to the contract between M$ and R*. So will never know what they are talking about or even the term of contract.

Hellfire

10-31-2008, 07:27 AM

Didn't Microsoft pay something like $300 million for the exclusive DLC. If Rockstar said Sony are getting it as well, i'm pretty sure M$ would sue the crap out of them.

claud3

10-31-2008, 07:32 AM

They paid $55 million for the DLC exclusive

zeeshan810

11-13-2008, 06:41 PM

Didn't Microsoft pay something like $300 million for the exclusive DLC. If Rockstar said Sony are getting it as well, i'm pretty sure M$ would sue the crap out of them.

They paid $50 million for 2 DLC for xbox360. :rolleyes:

You might never know DLC will come to PS3 after they come on XBOX360. :confused:

Slim Trashman

11-13-2008, 10:00 PM

Nothing is ever exclusive especially when it is related to GTA :P

lillb

11-13-2008, 11:44 PM

Fry

11-13-2008, 11:52 PM

I love watching childish fanboys get up in arms about which console is better, It amuses me......but at the same time it saddens me that these 13 year old kids will one day be running our countries.

Ash_735

11-14-2008, 04:33 AM

Nothing is ever exclusive especially when it is related to GTA :P

You have to admit though, The "Stories" games have stuck pretty well, even though they came out on PS2 they've still remained exclusive to Sony.

rcguy150

11-14-2008, 01:00 PM

If the DLC is exclusive to Microsoft, will they offer it to the PC version sometime too?

Cutts

11-14-2008, 10:37 PM

Ofcourse he's going to say that. He wants people to buy the PS3 version, and if they think they're getting DLC out of it it'll sell more copies.

Jaytow

11-15-2008, 12:57 PM

jim_genius5

11-22-2008, 06:50 AM

I believe it's unlikely for the Lost and Damned to come out to the ps3, but if I remember correctly, R* did announce downloadable content for the ps3, featuring new cars and weapons.

Neil

11-22-2008, 08:51 AM

I believe it's unlikely for the Lost and Damned to come out to the ps3, but if I remember correctly, R* did announce downloadable content for the ps3, featuring new cars and weapons.

No. The only DLC that has ever been announced for GTA IV is for Xbox 360.

hnbeanz

11-22-2008, 01:58 PM

http://www.n4g.com/gaming/News-121494.aspx

An interesting article written here. Looks at both sides of the argument for DLC on both systems, give it a read.

Thomas B.

11-22-2008, 02:25 PM

I think Microsoft is getting desperate. They know that PS3 is catching up with them.

Olin

11-22-2008, 04:05 PM

How is it they would be "catching up with them" and what role does that play in securing something a company would find profitable?

TomFratelli

11-23-2008, 03:33 PM

Well, the ps3 didn't get oblivion DLC.

GrungeRockCity

11-24-2008, 08:45 AM

Hopefully the guy's right about the exclusivity of this thing. I want to play it, damnit!

claud3

11-25-2008, 08:19 PM

As i said in another one of these threads. Rockstar might make a totally different D.L.C for the gta 4 on the ps3 so it is a
ps3 d.l.c only and it is a different story

Shazly

12-13-2008, 03:15 PM

I think that ps3 directors just talk ... and nothing happens ...
If there is "Nothing Ever Exclusive" , then where the f*ck is gta iv dlc or fallout 3 dlc..
the only exclusive dlc ps3 users have got is Bioshock Challenge Rooms

Patrucci

12-13-2008, 03:24 PM

Maybe we (Playstation 3 owners) will get different DLC or possibly an expansion pack, via Blu-Ray disk.
I could see having to pay 20-40 $ to buy a disk with more content than the DLC for the 360, Blu-Ray is just capable of holding more content.

claud3

12-13-2008, 05:25 PM

I do think it will be different. They could do different direction on the PS3 so we follow a different character. Instead of a port of the X-BOX 360 D.L.C

John The Con

12-19-2008, 01:02 PM

I love watching childish fanboys get up in arms about which console is better, It amuses me......but at the same time it saddens me that these 13 year old kids will one day be running our countries.
No they wont. The kids who will be running your countries are the kids in $5 milliom dollar/year schools, driving one of their many parentowned Benz's and owning but consoles so they could worry about more important stuff, like how to get promoted in Skulls & Bones.

Cutts

12-19-2008, 01:07 PM

In other words, buy our console in the hope that you'll get the DLC when in actual fact there is no chance of it.

Olin

12-19-2008, 01:09 PM

Pretty much. Why the lie? You'll only piss off would-be future customers by convincing them to buy your product under false pretenses.

PS3 seems to be riddled with a lot of them. It's rather unfortunate.

OGTiago

01-02-2009, 01:54 PM

You bet, they should know lol!

$50mil Microsoft paid says it will stay exclusive.

zeeshan810

01-03-2009, 02:57 PM

When its old on Xbox360 the DLC they would bring it on the PS3 :rolleyes:

Ash_735

01-03-2009, 05:16 PM

Why bring up false hope? Sony didn't pay for shit, so they get nothing, Microsoft did, Microsoft get the content, as much as you bitch and whine, it's SONY'S fault that the PS3 doesn't have any DLC content because they didn't think GTA was worthy anymore and that their new games like LBP, Home and KillZone would revolutionise the gaming world and leave old franchises like GTA behind.

Look, Sony paid for "DLC" a few years ago, Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories were contracted to remain PlayStation format exclusive titles, that's why it's only available on the PSP and PS2 and after all these years, even though they are old, etc, are still not available on PC and Xbox.

To me there just seems to be a shitload of fanboyism around, when Sony do it, it's ok, but when Microsoft do it, suddenly they are bastards and Rockstar are idiots for alienating their Sony Market. No matter how much you hope, Rockstar has proven to keep contracts exclusives when agreed, why didn't you people bitch and moan back in 2005 and 2006 for LCS and VCS? You didn't (OK, some did about not wanting to buy a PSP), why, because it was on a Sony console and back then you said it was a good strategy.

Slim Trashman

01-03-2009, 05:23 PM

If I recall, Sony did not miss out on this content because they were full of themselves thinking they wouldn't need to GTA to carry them along the way, but that they took too long to get back to Rockstar when they attempted to contact them. Rockstar went to Sony first.

thenotsogoodtrickster

01-03-2009, 05:29 PM

Ash, as much as I agree with what you said, I think most of the fanboys can't quite grasp having a game, and only certain fans being able to get the add-on for it.

Ash_735

01-03-2009, 06:19 PM

It's just really simple when you think about it, last generation GTA was developed for the PS2 first because it was the most popular console and had the higher install base, this gave Sony an advantage with GTA while the PC versions came out at a later date and the Xbox Versions taking upto a year to first arrive. The deals came with the Stories games when Sony contracted them as Sony Exclusive games, thus Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories were released on the PSP and then later released on the PS2 to squeeze more sales.

Still to this day the Stories games have not been released on PC or Xbox nor have any plans been made for them to be as they will remain Sony exclusives.

This generation things are very different (maybe after all these months I've figured out the real meaning of "Things Will Be Different"? :P), Microsoft got a jump start into the market and this team being serious focus on converting developers to program for the Xbox first and even buying out contracts and exclusivity details (which still happens to this day) whilst Sony took their time to release their console, nope, sorry, as they claimed at the time, Their All Round Media Hub and seemed to lose interest in the gaming side of things and wanting to push the media aspects instead (something which they've now finished and actually starting to push games now) but it's because of this twiddling of thumbs that the PS3 version gets nothing. After Sony showed no interest in GTA this allowed Microsoft to carry on doing what they want.

So now GTA IV is released as a Multiplatform Game and Microsoft were able to offer a large sum of money to get some exclusive goodies and make sure they stay on their console. This is the DLC, Part 1: The Lost and Damned and Part 2: *Currently Unknown*, See what people forget, Microsoft have funded the DLC, their money helped create this content. Bitch and moan all you want, but this content will not be appearing on the PS3 in the same way LCS and VCS will not appear on the Xbox.

Tough Luck, Role-Reversed, be happy that Sony have for now aqquired some new exclusive games for the PS3 after learning their very big mistake of this generation, which is, letting Microsoft take over and not keeping a hold of previous exclusive assets.

edit: I realise what I just said may upset and offend some certain users, but I'm sorry, that is just my view on the situation. You don't have to agree, I'm not going to argue my point, this is a forum after all where we can post our views on whatever subjects.

Slim Trashman

01-03-2009, 08:49 PM

Ash go back and read my post.

Ash_735

01-04-2009, 08:26 AM

Still Slim, the fact is, this DLC is like LCS and VCS and those games have stuck to their exclusive deal even after all these years.

Slim Trashman

01-04-2009, 09:48 AM

We only will know that for sure with time. Remember we never knew how much Sony had paid for exclusivity. I think just knowing exactly how much money Microsoft paid influences us to believe we will never see it on a different platform.

flint.44

01-04-2009, 04:20 PM

I'd be happy to see The lost and damned on PS3, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I'm just fine with the game. I honestly think Microsoft is making a mistake. Once people get bored of the DLC's, or just get tired of paying for them, the 360 will begin to decline. In my opinion, the only thing keeping the 360 alive is Halo 3.

Ash_735

01-04-2009, 04:23 PM

You'd be very wrong in that statement, that's like saying the only thing keeping the PS3 afloat is MGS4. Both consoles have their own exclusives which are now proving to be very strong sellers. As for Microsoft Making a mistake, clearly you better let Xbox owners know that because profits earned from DLC is pretty huge.

flint.44

01-04-2009, 04:32 PM

They can only use DLC's to fuel the flames for so long, sooner or later they will need better exclusive games.

Slim Trashman

01-04-2009, 04:44 PM

@flint, with 360 users paying $50 a year for LIVE, I don't think paying for $20 for DLC will really bother them ;)

flint.44

01-04-2009, 04:51 PM

True, yet I still don't think they can take over the market with DLC.

victim

01-04-2009, 04:53 PM

Still Slim, the fact is, this DLC is like LCS and VCS and those games have stuck to their exclusive deal even after all these years.

At the time of their release on PS2, Microsoft had long forgotten about the original Xbox system. I hope you understand the point I am trying to convey.

Ash_735

01-04-2009, 05:15 PM

And what about PC users, trying to kill off customers with DRM was still a year or two away ;)

@ flimt.44: You're clearly against the Xbox so your view of it is quite biased, I'm sorry that you suffer from that.

thenotsogoodtrickster

01-04-2009, 05:25 PM

Flint, if the 360 is riding off the back of Halo 3 like you said it is, then the PS3 mustn't be a good console at all.

flint.44

01-04-2009, 05:36 PM

I don't hate the 360, I just think that Microsoft is making some drastic decisions in their marketing.

thenotsogoodtrickster

01-04-2009, 05:40 PM

I don't see how they have, they're doing their best to cater for the gaming community, shelled out $50m for their community and tried to make as many corrections for their hardware errors. I think their HD DVD plot was brilliant, you buy it seperately if you want it, you're not forced to get it if you want the console, something which Sony seemed to do with the PS3, which upped their prices a lot imo.

And the changes they've made with the NXE were pretty sweet, the appearance isn't the greatest, but the option to install to the HDD is a brilliant idea.

the_sextein

01-23-2009, 12:31 AM

I bought GTA 4 on the PS3 so I won't be getting the lost and the damned. I can't say I am all that bitter about Rockstar's decision though. I mean, I really like GTA and have purchased every single one on release day and I won't be able to play this add on which is a let down but it's not really Sony's fault. Sony could have given Rockstar even more than 50 million so that the exclusive content would come out only on their system but I think there is a point where a company needs to draw the line and I believe Microsoft is the last company in the world that will actually draw that line.

Nobody can beat Microsoft when it comes down to paying off everyone to beat the competition. I do find it strange that Microsoft is going to lay off 5000 employees this year but they don't have a problem paying 50 million dollars so an expansion pack for a video game won't be released on a competing system. That 50 million didn't go to Rockstar so that they would build the content for Xbox it went to Rockstar so that they would not release it on the PS3. Rockstar would be stupid to not release it's content to both Xbox and PS3 users unless someone payed them more money then they would actually earn buy selling their games to just sit around and sell less games. Everyone who owns the Xbox 360 will purchase the add on anyway so that 50 millions dollars went towards screwing PS3 owners and their own employees.

Can't blame Rockstar though. That is alot of money. More than they would have made from PS3 users. In any case the GTA games were Sony only last time due to pay off's so I can't say Sony didn't start it. They started a trend that will destroy them in the end. Money rules all and Microsoft has more of it.

All in all if I really wanted the lost and the damned I could go buy a 360 since they are not that expensive, but I really don't feel like feeding the bastards who did this. Microsoft has ignored it's PC platform in an attempt to rule the console world. Their OS is shit and all of the talented PC game developers are now payed off and working on 360 games that will be ported to the PC in non-working condition. The graphics industry has no reason to increase because games are not improving past the 360 hardware from 3 years ago and fast GPU's won't fix poorly coded console ports. In the end Microsoft is starting to hurt the industry because there is no point in being competitive with them. Even if you build a better product chances are they will just buy everyone who is better than them or pay off companies who can compete with their competitiion for them.

Rockstar makes some great games and they would have no problem selling their games to everyone who is interested in them but thanks to corporate greed Rockstar will be selling their games to less people and still make more money. I could be pissed at Rockstar but I can't blame them for taking a bunch of free money. It just rubs me the wrong way that Microsoft is willing to stoop that low in an atempt to crush their competition. They go to court multiple times a year for being a monopoly and sometimes they lose in court and have to pay huge fines but nothing ever stops them from doing it again and again.

I have not purchased a $500 graphic card from Nvidia this year, or a PC version of GTA 4 which I usually pick up on top of the console version I already own. I have not purchased many PC games nor have I seen the industry really move forward since the 360 launched. I understand that Microsoft doesn't care because they will sell their OS on every computer regardless of weather people play PC games or not, but they are hurting the rest of the industry. Too bad cause they have done alot for the PC industry but it looks like they have peaked and decided to just let it rot now. Both my PC and PS3 experience has been blasted by their constant console obsession.

lillb

01-23-2009, 12:56 AM

lol your last paragraph there makes microsoft sound like.... EA!

the_sextein

01-23-2009, 01:24 AM

Yeah I know, that's what pisses me off. Then again maybe Rockstar really should be the one to put their foot down and do buisness with their customers like they are supposed to. They sell games to people who want them. That is how they make money. Making money for denying part of their fanbase is counter-productive. It's free money and I can relate to their decision but it really isn't what they are suposed to be about.

It's like polititions who get elected for promising the most hand outs. It's disgusting because they are pretty much ignoring their job and just giving money away to people who want money for free in exchange for their vote. I can't blame them but that is not the way honest buisness is supposed to work. I know, not a perfect world.

Similar loopholes in corporate practices is what causes so many problems in the industry. Especially for smaller companies that actually work at their job to try and make an honest dollar by providing a service to consumers who are intersted in quality work. All of these orginizations who do this shit have all worked hard in the past in order to have the funds to do what they are doing now. I just think it's sick that they are content to do nothing because they still make money through these loopholes. It's like, once you have made a certain amount of money you can just sit around and pay companies who will make money for you even if these practices hurt society. They don't care.

devil chevelle

01-23-2009, 01:34 AM

i think this is just sony tryin to put confidence in there fans. i mean yes a lot of things arent exclusive anymore but usually the things i dont see being exclusive anymore are like xbox 360 games that go to pc but its still all microsoft. as for metal gear solid goin to xbox 360 i believe the contract they have is for a couple of years. and as for the contract with rockstar on dlc the content im pretty sure is to stay permanently so if rockstar where to give it to ps3 users they would get sued out of the asshole and they will probably be paying that 50 mil and then some to payback microsofts fee. also to add my own fanboy stuff i used to own all systems but i sold the ps3 cus frankly the only reason i bought it was for blu ray which i think was very overrated, and the other reason i got the ps3 was cus i get discounts (being a best buy salesman) but i just got rid of it cus i never played it and i felt like it was just a let down of a system.

o and also another reason was cause i couldent stand using psn im sorry this is gonna sound totally biased but i could not stand that shit i would rather pay the 50 dollars a year, and also for some reason people on live tend to be more of my type and are talkative.

Olin

01-23-2009, 01:50 AM

Hey guys, let me look into everything way too much.

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the_sextein

01-26-2009, 03:06 AM

lol, Oh that was clever your a pretty funny guy. But seriously, If Rockstar asked both Sony and Microsoft for cash to fund their expansion pack then ok. My question would be, how is a publisher as prominent as Rockstar unable to fund their own expansion packs? Especially since GTA 4 alone probably made a 500% prophit. Why would they need to ask console developers for the cash in advance? Also, Microsoft didn't give them 50 million so that they could create the content and then pay them back. From how I understand it Microsoft just gave them 50 million dollars to keep. Maybe I am wrong but it sounds shady to me.

The idea that Microsoft is supporting their customers by helping out a developer in need is pushing it a bit far in my opinion. It's more like, Microsoft is handing out money to a company that is fully capable of making games on it's own and they are asking for nothing in return but suddenly Xbox 360 gets the downloadable content exclusivly. It looks like Microsoft payed Rockstar so that the content Rockstar was interested in making would only go to their system.

I don't know if Rockstar tries to get other companies to pay all their bills in return for favors or if they are contacted by individuals that are willing to pay massive amounts of money in order to keep certain games away from the competition. Either way is sounds like crap to me. All in all it could be that the content is only exclusive for a small period of time or it could be that the conent is exclusive forever. Either way I just don't dig it.

It's one thing to be assosiated with a specific system or company because you prefer it or you have loyalty towards it. If GTA 4 had been announced as an Xbox 360 exclusive I certainly wouldn't have had a problem with that. My problem is that both systems got the game and they both got it at the same time and now only one system is getting the expansion packs because the company that makes that system paid Rockstar 50 million dollars.

I bet if Microsoft and Sony didn't pay Rockstar shit, Rockstar would fund it's own games and sell them on both systems. They would make prophit from their fans that are willing to pay for a service, you know an honest prophit. Not from some company that offers them huge sums of free money for no reason other than to hold the game to their platform only. That just sounds lazy and not very honest. The way I see it is Microsoft paid Rockstar a huge amount of money for absolutly nothing other than to keep their software off the competitions system by paying them more money then they would actually earn on their own from PS3 users.

Maybe in the future after these two expansions they will start making expansions for both systems or maybe Sony will pay for some exclusives but I just don't see a point. I liked it when certain developers would side with a company and stick with them even in tough times. Nintentdo had third party publishers that acted like that for a while. The hardware in the system didn't make a big differance it came down to who had the best developers under their belt. Today , developers are like whores that do whatever for whoever as long as you shell out some extra cash for absolutly nothing in return. It's not about selling their own games for their own prophit. It's about making extra money for doing nothing.

Ash_735

01-26-2009, 08:44 AM

Ok, the_sextein, you are going way over on this. R* asked both, Sony declined, MS accepted, MS paid $50 Million, R* Invested $25 Million into each DLC Episode, Bigger DLC was created. Most game companies don't see much profits from DLC so the time developing it doesn't seem worth it, that's why most games just get basic map packs as DLC, now yeah, games out there that rake it in due to DLC (Rock band for example). What's happened here is that R* are attempting a full add on (Stories style game) as DLC so they've used the money from MS to fund that, so even if they don't make it back, they haven't wasted any of their finance on it. Plus I'm sure you know the worlds in shit at the moment and Take2 of all companies can't just throw money around.

devil chevelle

01-26-2009, 09:58 AM

Maybe in the future after these two expansions they will start making expansions for both systems or maybe Sony will pay for some exclusives but I just don't see a point. I liked it when certain developers would side with a company and stick with them even in tough times. Nintentdo had third party publishers that acted like that for a while. The hardware in the system didn't make a big differance it came down to who had the best developers under their belt. Today , developers are like whores that do whatever for whoever as long as you shell out some extra cash for absolutly nothing in return. It's not about selling their own games for their own prophit. It's about making extra money for doing nothing.

i do agree with the whore part it seems like no companys and most people dont have integrity now a days all they want is money and self concern first even if it requires fuckin over the customers or morales just to get ahead.

lillb

01-26-2009, 02:06 PM

i'm sorry but isn't the main point of a business to make money?
these game companies are for profit of course they would sign deals with who ever has the bigger wallet.
You gotta understand that Microsoft paid basically for a service that Rockstar will provide.
That service is developing DLC for Microsoft's Xbox LIVE customers.
I'm sure if any of you were running a business and were offered to develop a product exclusively for a very large sum of money you'd take it.
And as Ash said Take 2 has had financial problems so 50 million is something they'd be stupid to pass up.

the_sextein

01-27-2009, 12:00 AM

Ok, maybe your right. But just for the record I want to put my opinion into perspective. I understand why they did it and I am not steaming pissed at Rockstar for doing it BUT, while I agree that Rockstar is here to make money I believe they are being a bit shady about it. Maybe I am off base here but I just feel that Rockstar should be funding it's own games and selling them for a prophit to as many people as possible. I don't agree with being funded by a company who happens to be one of the main competiing console manufactures. Also, while I understand that times are rough Rockstar just made like 1 billion dollars off GTA 4 so they can't be doing that bad. I mean, they probably made more money then any other game in the history of gaming so they whould have some decent prophits and if I remember correctly even Bioshock was done by 2 K under the same lable so they should be doing pretty darn well.

Again, if they would have announced it for Xbox 360 only then I would not have a problem but they released the game for both systems at the same time and now they are only releasing content on one system who happened to pay them a bunch of money that they didn't actually need in order to make the extra material. Yes Take 2 could have taken a loss for this downloadable content but that is what being in a buisness is all about. You take risks, sometimes you come out on top and some times you sink to the bottom.

I'm just pissed because I don't play many games at all and I don't want to have to own every game system on the market in order to play a handful of games that I actaully like. If I were a hardcore gamer than it wouldn't matter, I would want to own all the systems since they all have their own strengths but for me it's just not important. I bought a PS3 so that I could get GTA 4 early and still be able to play Tekkon 6 and Final Fantasy 13. Other than that it had a back up blu- ray player I could use if I needed. All of my other gaming needs were taken care of on the PC. I don't have any problems or dislike toward the 360 it's just that I have never wanted one in the least.

The only games that I am interested in that the Xbox 360 has that I cannot buy on my PC or PS3 would be Gears of War 2 and that certainly was not enough to justify blowing $400 on a 360. However, the economy is getting really bad and my hours just got cut from 55 a week to 32 so it looks like I can't afford to keep my PC up to date anyway. Besides, like I mentioned before it looks like Microsoft has really put a dent in the PS3 and the PC gaming platforms. Maybe I should just pick up a 360 and let go of my PC obsession. Right now it's just not worth all the money and time to get half assed console ports that barly run. GTA 4 is a perfect example of where PC gaming is right now. I do find it strange though that the PC won't be getting this content since Microsoft is the one in charge of games for Windows but they just keep ignoring it for some reason.

In anycase I am checking out the black 360 elite system. I need the HDMI/1080P specs to take advantage of my TV. It's kinda lame that there is no WIFI or rechargable contoller battery included with the system especially since it doesn't come with HDDVD or Blueray either. I'll admit the 120gig hardrive is alot more space than I could ever need so atleast that is nice. One thing is for sure, if I buy one I am getting the extended warrenty from Best Buy cause everyone I know that owns a 360 has had to return it at least two times since they bought it. That is another thing holding me back. I don't like buying bad electronics. It may be a great game system but it has proven to be a faulty design that clearly is not stable.

This is why I am pissed. If Rockstar was not sleeping with Microsoft I wouldn't be in this situation and it gets on my nerves.

Ash, I understand that Sony was offered a deal and they turned it down but let me ask you this. In your honest opinion do you believe that Sony or Microsoft should have to pay a game developer to do it's job? Rockstar is supposed to be making games and Sony and Microsoft are supposed to get prophit from Rockstar's video games. I don't see why these console developers who are supposed to be taking money from Rocksta'rs prophits are suddenly shelling out money to them other than the fact that Rockstar is putting out huge hits that will sway large portions of gamers to buy a 360 and purchase the game on the 360 system. Suddenly Microsoft feels the need to ad a little shady incentive and now the PS3 customers are shafted. I can't see it any other way. I believe if it were any other game Microsoft wouldn't have payed anything and the developer would sell the game to everyone for maximum sales.

Olin

01-27-2009, 01:17 AM

Xbox 360 Premium has HDMI and supports 1080p. The Elite's only advantage is storage (or color if you prefer black, but modding your 360 with a case and replacing the faulty clamps that give the console RRoD still comes out cheaper). You can buy a WiFi add-on for the 360 if you really need to or relocate your router/modem to another room.

The More You Know: Running an extended ethernet cable to your 360 is cheaper, provides more bandwidth, and is more stable and less troublesome than WiFi.

Everything else in your post is just you bawwing because you want DLC. A short time from now, you're going to look back and slap yourself for making these pointless, time-consuming rants.

the_sextein

01-27-2009, 08:28 AM

No actually I won't if you actually took the time to read what I wrote you would understand why I am pissed. Owning a 360 is not going to make me happy about this. Also I know all about WIFI and hardwired connections. It's just that I have 6 differant machines running off of a hub and the wires get really annoying. Being that I am not a huge online gamer and I would be using the internet mainly for firmware and game patches I think WIFI would be great. I am not going to modify my Xbox 360 either because it will cause warrenty problems if anything else goes wrong with it.

Sooner or later you might learn that people that get upset over things are not always cry baby's just because you don't agree with them. As for my rants being pointless, yeah well so is your comment and everything on this board. Besides, the majority of my posts are simply typed out for the sake of discussion. You know, what forums are for. I could type things like "hey guys let me try to sound clever and fail at it"

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but while I may not agree with everyone I don't go out of my way to piss people off.

lillb

01-27-2009, 09:10 AM

Just letting you know this isn't the only game that microsoft got exclusive DLC for. Fallout 3 also has DLC coming out today as well as two other packs in Feb. and March which are exclusive to 360 and PC. On the Fallout 3 forum PS3 users are also complaining about it.
Also i noticed you said you wanted ps3 for FF13
I believe that is also coming out for 360 so FF is no longer exclusive to Playstation

Normally I'd probably think big money hungry Microsoft was the bad guy, but since i'm now a customer and I can see some of their big money is actually benefiting their customers. Which is what a company should do, take care of its customers and be better than the competition to draw in more customers. So I can't really blame Microsoft for doing everything it can to get exclusive rights to things people will want in an effort to sell more systems and get more LIVE customers.
I guess i'm just happy I was lucky enough to get a 360 for christmas cause i used to be a big PS fan boy when i had PS2.

Ash_735

01-27-2009, 10:07 AM

Ash, I understand that Sony was offered a deal and they turned it down but let me ask you this. In your honest opinion do you believe that Sony or Microsoft should have to pay a game developer to do it's job?

GTA IV was Rockstars job, they did that, DLC is NO video game companies main job, see Gears of War, Tomb Raider, etc, most games on the market with DLC is just leftover crap they couldn't fit on the game or didn't have time to finish. Take Gears of War for example again, the Flashback Map Pack, now that was free for a while but it's now 400 MS Points, what is it? Just 5 Maps from Gears of War 1 ported to gears of War 2 with a few visual updates. Few game companies actually do stuff for DLC, BioShock challenge rooms on the PS3, even then it was after kicking the dirt for a long while and moaning if it would be worth it or not.

Look, your long rants are just because you're a PS3 owner and don't have a 360, OH NO a company wants to make money. LCS and VCS are Sony exclusive titles, did you moan about that? This is the same, except Microsoft are the ones who paid up. Main point is, Rockstar said they wanted to do something big with DLC and not just a few extras, this required time and more work, they were also taking a gamble, this is the first time they've attempted a large DLC project, so they wanted the companies to support them. Sony refused, Microsoft stepped in and then offered $50 Mil, which was more than enough. With this they've split it up and are now funding the two DLC projects with Microsofts money. The money earnt from GTA IV is being used by the rest of Take 2 for every other thing.

So relax, chill out, have a cup of coffee and stop stressing over this, Rockstar arn't some holy company who love fans, no company is, companies love money. For now TLAD and Episode 2 are 360 exclusives. If you REALLY want to play them, put your fanboyism aside and invest in a 360 if you're that desperate to play them.

thenotsogoodtrickster

01-27-2009, 12:18 PM

Sextein, I know you're pissed off with this, but at the end of the day, one company made sure they would get what they wanted, the other didn't, and like it or not, you're going to have to deal with it one way or another.

Rockstar aren't 'sleeping with Microsoft', they need money, and so do Microsoft. The $50mil from MS is to try and get more back from sales, and of course, Rockstar are getting $50mil to both fund the DLC and maybe use some of it on other things. I can guarantee some die-hard GTA PS3 fans will switch to 360 just to experience the DLC, and that's what MS want. As well as people purchasing their DLC to begin with.

phreak

01-27-2009, 02:47 PM

I can think of 50 million reasons why this will stay only on Xbox.

I want it on PS3 too but alas, money talks.

the_sextein

01-28-2009, 12:18 AM

Please try to understand that I am not stessing out just because I type a bunch of shit. I am just that way. I always type a ton of crap to get my point across. I am unhappy about it yes and so I am writing about it here where I knew some people would be interested in discussing it. I am not freaking out or crying about it as some seem to think.

Just so you know, I am now officially the owner of an Xbox 360 elite system. Does it change my opinion? No. Here is the thing I don't get. I understand the idea of buying the product that means the best value to you as an individual and I understand that many people here seem to think that Microsoft is making their systems better by throwing their money around. Don't any of you think that they are being shady about this? Do you want to know why Microsoft gave Rockstar 50 million? It's because of Sony. It's the competition that causes companies to spend extra cash and do all of this funding that you guys are so happy about and once they destroy that competition by paying off companies like rockstar rather than building better game systems like they are supposed be doing then the competition won't be there anymore and you are going to be left with a single company that has problems building stable systems in the first place and has no reason to help lazy developers who can't develope games on their own.

For the last time, I AM NOT A FANBOY. Honestly I don't like consoles and it gets under my skin that I had to buy 2 of them to get a couple games I like. Especially when GTA was on the PS3 and running fine. I find it highly annoying that anyone who displays disinterest or negativity towards Microsoft or Xbox is now labled a fan boy. I think it's because all the kids that have no patience went out a bought the first next gen game system on the market and suddenly anything else is crap and if you don't agree then you are a pointless fanboy. That is how it seems today. When I grew up there were no fanboys or an internet for them to gather at. I just find it funny that I am labled a fanboy when I only play like 5 console games total and I generally hate controllers and crap maintsream technology.

Was I pissed when the PSP exclusive titles were released? No because they were announced as exclusive games for the PSP. Like I said if GTA 4 was announced for the Xbox 360 only then I would not have been pissed about it. It's the fact that it was released on both games systems at the same time and now one version is getting the special treatment because of a payoff. Yes it's DLC content but so is everything on steam. All the DLC is, is an expansion pack. DLC is Rockstar's job in my opinion. They can make it and make a prophit or they can choose not to make it and make no prophit. It's up to them and it should have nothing to do with Microsoft. Yes Microsoft's ridiculous spending habit of buying off everything and everyone in the industry is helping you and now me but pretty soon the competition won't be there and you won't see anything but overpriced crap because of it.

My main problem was not that I didin't want to spend the money though that is annoying, but my main problem was simply helping Microsoft continue it's corporate BS until there is nothing left but them. I wouldn't be suprissed if there were Microsoft tooth brushes at the local stores around here. They don't win by making a better product, they simply pay off other companies like rockstar to win for them and it irks me. It's like I said about the polititions. They offer hand outs and people are all about them and toss their vote out. Then they get into office and people are forced to deal with the retard they voted into office. Ironic I think.

I like GTA alot and I caved in and bought a 360 but I am not happy about it and I certainly don't see Microsoft as a good company that is taking care of it's customers. If they were they would build a system that didn't break down every year and add in things like HD video and WIFI to their systems. The great game selection has nothing to do with them. That is the job of companies like Rockstar. They make the fun games and Microsoft makes the great hardware to run it on. Why people are happy that Microsoft is paying off a game developer is beyond me. Rockstar could make 15 DLC's without any help from an outside source and if they had anything to do with GTA they would have a very low risk of losing money on those projects.

Lastly, Developers will make their game for the system that has the most customers and they will port it to the other systems if the customer base is worth the extra money it costs to port the game. So the game system that is the best will get the most customers and therefore the most games. A console manufacturer should not have to pay a developer to make games for their system and certainly not when their system is already the most popular. It's the simple fact that the PS3 is starting to sell more units and Microsoft also wants anyone who owns both systems to purchase the game on theirs instead. That decision should be left up to the consumer not Microsoft's money. Now I own both systems but shouldn't I be the one to choose which one I buy it on instead of letting microsoft choose for me. Or in my case force me to buy their system to play it.

EDIT:

One last thing, I do feel that GTA 4 on the Xbox 360 is a better looking version of the game. I am happy about that. The graphic drivers for the ATI graphic card are a little too aggresive in my opinion. You can see shadows flicker and sometimes buildings or the lights on a building will dissapear while the object is still visable on screen. Also there are more graphic bugs on the Xbox 360. However, overall I feel that the game just looks higher resolution and the blur effect is not half as strong as it is on the PS3. Dispite the graphic card's quirks I still think the Xbox 360 version looks better and after installing it on the Xbox hardrive it loads up faster than my PS3 version does off of it's hardrive. I am happy about that.

devil chevelle

01-28-2009, 06:43 AM

In anycase I am checking out the black 360 elite system. I need the HDMI/1080P specs to take advantage of my TV. It's kinda lame that there is no WIFI or rechargable contoller battery included with the system especially since it doesn't come with HDDVD or Blueray either. I'll admit the 120gig hardrive is alot more space than I could ever need so atleast that is nice. One thing is for sure, if I buy one I am getting the extended warrenty from Best Buy cause everyone I know that owns a 360 has had to return it at least two times since they bought it. That is another thing holding me back. I don't like buying bad electronics. It may be a great game system but it has proven to be a faulty design that clearly is not stable.

if your thinking that the extended warranty covers the red ring problem it does not they quit doing that around last august but it covers anything else that goes wrong with the system. which is kind of bad cus if im not mistaken most of the things that go wrong with it hardware wise will actually show up as a red ring and when best buy "tests" your system to see whats wrong with it all there gonna see is a red ring and tell you they cant cover it rather then seeing if its the real red ring that has been messing up all the systems lately. also everyone says all these things about faulty games going to the 360 and how much better the pc is for gaming and yadda yadda all i see for pc games that can maybe be a bonus is the ability to mod other then that same graphics and worst controls so if someone on here can tell me on how pc gamin is so much better i would like to know

Ash_735

01-28-2009, 11:18 AM

the_sextein: Chill out, you've contradicted yourself more than a few times in that post. I called you a fanboy because, no, you're not just showing slight negativity towards it, you're writing fucking articles about how Microsoft are poisoning the market and shaping the world in their image :P, I called you a fanboy, so you said I must only own a 360 and I'm bitter because I rushed out and purchased the first console? I own all 3 current gen consoles, the DS and a PSP and run games on my computer whenever I can, guess that blows your theory out of the water.

Also, you said you wasn't bothered by Sony snapping up the Stories games because they said it was exclusive from the start, well, Microsoft said they had exclusive content WAY before the game was released, so, what was your point on that one?

So chill out man, stop bitching because you think Microsoft is the Nazi Revolution and if you seriously can write that much about nothing, then start writing a book man!

thenotsogoodtrickster

01-28-2009, 11:40 AM

I think if Sony paid $50 million for exclusive DLC you probably wouldn't have batted an eyelid, as was the case with many GTA fans who stuck by Sony when they got LCS and VCS exclusive to their respective systems. I can easily understand why this would annoy you, but at the end of the day, one company set themselves a target and reached it. From my understanding Sony didn't even bother about DLC to begin with (don't quote me on that one >.>).

the_sextein

01-28-2009, 01:55 PM

Actually ash I already knew that you had all of the systems. I have spoken with you in the past and you told me about your PS3 and what you wanted to buy on it. I remember I asked you about buying the PC version as well. Also like I said at the very beginning of my last post I simply type alot to get my point across. I didn't contradict myself it seems that you are too interested in winning an arguement than looking at it from a differant angle. I'll say it for the third time. If GTA 4 was Xbox 360 only I would not have a problem with this. It's that Xbox payed off rockstar for special treatment and I simply don't agree with console developers interfering with the natrual flow of game availablility.

Lastly thenotsogoodtrickster your right if the system I owned it on had the content available I would not have came on here and wrote about it. I would still think it shady that Rockstar wouldn't make it's game and sell them to us rather than making deals with console developers and screwing us in the meantime. But in the end I think it is you guys who want to believe that all is fine just because it's not screwing you right now.

Oh and I could care less about reputation system and have never used it a single time in my life but it would seem that people don't want to discuss this or I am pissing others off with my long posts so I guess I will call and end to it. I would like to mention though that while I am upset with Microsofts decision and I really didn't want to support them in this situation that I don't think Microsoft is the nazi revolution nor have I decided to stop purchasing from them. I just don't agree with this situation that is all.

Olin

01-28-2009, 02:22 PM

I think you're putting too much negative judgement towards Microsoft. Don't forget that Rockstar accepted their offer.

It was clearly announced well before release that Microsoft had secured exclusive episodic DLC for $50,000,000 as well.

thenotsogoodtrickster

01-28-2009, 02:34 PM

DLC has been treated as a new game rather than an add-on, and I can vision that easily, as an add-on would probably end up in Niko continuing his story, but it doesn't in this case (well, it would seem not, anyway).

But in the end I think it is you guys who want to believe that all is fine just because it's not screwing you right now.

Actually, you'll find most people don't think it's all that fair itself, but the point is that Sony didn't stretch themselves to secure the DLC for themselves, I think you should be more mad with Sony than Rockstar and Microsoft, because if Rockstar never had that $50mil, then who's to say their DLC would just be a new car and weapon or two?

Look, yes, you aren't happy, but remember what I quoted can be taken and pushed back into your own face, as I doubt you'd be here typing about how shady it is for Rockstar to go to Sony instead if that was the case.

I didn't hear any Sony fans complaining when LCS and VCS got their little exclusive deal.

I can tell you what I think is fair though, the company that stuck their neck out getting what they wanted, and the company who wanted a big payoff got what they wanted, and the fans that stuck with XBox (for whatever reasons they chose) also got what they wanted.

Ash_735

01-28-2009, 03:25 PM

the_sextein, you clearly have something against Microsoft, I know I didn't imagine that as Olin and tnsgt confirmed it, MS DID say from the beginning that they'd have exclusive content. If anyone is at fault here, then it's you, you're the one who bought the PS3 because you wanted to play GTA4 without the wait for the PC version? Now you may of wanted a Blu-ray player too in which case, you made a good choice. But people knew before the game was released which console would have the DLC. Ok, I'm not argueing with you, I don't even care about what you're saying, I'm just pointing out contradictions with your posts. So just let it drop, ok, we all knew from the start, writing 10 page articles about it now isn't going to change anything. :P

the_sextein

01-29-2009, 12:18 AM

OK FAIR IS FAIR I WILL STOP POSTING ABOUT IT, I promise but I do want one more chance to explain myself before I stop. I will address each of you one at a time so there is no confusion. If you guys have anything to say then cool, I’ll come back and read it but I will stop posting in here. This is my last one.

thenotsogoodtrickster:
I do truly feel that it is not Microsofts place to be paying 3rd party publishers behind closed doors when the game isn't even out yet and I think it's naive to feel that Microsoft is doing a good thing or fighting for it's customers. It's just plain wrong and I think many people are willing to just look the other way and keep on walking because it benefits them. I don't care if it benefits me or not I see it for what it is and I won't change my mind regardless of weather or not I benefit from it. If it's wrong then it's wrong. Simple as that. I do thank you for being polite while countering my opinions you are surly the only one.

Ash:

I don't have a problem purchasing things from Microsoft if Microsoft made a good product. I don't like it when Microsoft pays people off to work for them and then once the competition fails they have no reason to pay people off anymore so they start putting out sub-par crap just to keep the money flow flowing. You continuously call me a fan boy in almost every thread despite the fact that I don't even care about consoles. I agree with you it is my fault that I didn't have an Xbox 36o. I bought a PS3 and I don't regret that decision and now I have a 360 which cost the same amount and has less features. I’m not happy that I had to buy it in order to play a few games but that is life.

The reason I continue to post and the main point I have been trying to make has nothing to do with the fact that I had to buy an Xbox 360. That is part of the reason why we are not seeing eye to eye. It's like you don't get what I am trying to say. Me buying an Xbox 360 is simply a negative effect of corporate greed which is the point I am trying to make. I think it's bullshit what they a have done and I have spoken my opinion. You guys can call me a fanboy or a Microsoft hater or a crybaby it doesn't matter. Most people revert to calling names when they have no argument.

In your last post you said I was implying that you were a fanboy and that I was full of it because you own all 3 systems. Well, that is not what I was implying. I was simply saying that I think people who call other people fanboys every time someone disagrees with them are pathetic. You simply took it the wrong way. How do you measure up to your own standards when you called me a fanboy and I own all three systems as well?

Olin:

I think you are right. I made more negative comments about Microsoft than I needed to, I admit that, however I did acknowledge that the blame was possibly Rockstar’s fault in my second post.

The bottom line is, yes I knew the DLC was Xbox 360 only and I misjudged how big it was going to be. When I found out it was large I realized that the shady deal between Microsoft and Rockstar wasn't just some marketing ploy but that I was going to be forced to either miss two full fledged expansion packs or buy a 360. That was when I was faced with the decision of supporting a company who is clearly in the wrong in order to get what I want or miss out and give MS the middle finger for screwing me over. It was my decision and so now I have payed the extra cash to get the system that will run it. However I bought a PS3 for more than just GTA so it's not like I would have chosen differantly had I known what they were releasing in the DLC from the start. My problem is that the deal is shady and if that deal didn't go down I would not have gotten fucked over it.

I admit I made a mistake when judging the DLC at the start but that was never my argument. I simply feel that it was wrong to do what they have done and I believe that Rockstar would have done a large quality expansion on their own for both systems if a certain someone didn't offer a large amount of money. I could be wrong. Maybe they would have released a small DLC if it wasn't paid for by another company but that doesn't sound like a very good game developer if they have to rely on under the table cash from console manufacturers just to make expansion packs for games they already funded on their own. Especially since GTA 4 is 5 times larger and has made them much more rich than they were before they started funding the game.

I didn't buy any consoles until GTA 4 came out because that was the first console game to come out that I actually cared about. The PS3 was worth $400 to me because it had a $400 blu-ray player and a rechargable battery pack for he controller and a WIFI adapter and it also had Tekken 6 and Final Fantasy 13 comming out for it. 13 was not announced for the 360 at that time. It's graphics are very close to the 360's. With the 360 I got similar graphics with none of the extras for the same price. In the end I didn't need the system for anything so it was annoying to have to get one for a DLC that most likly would have been released on the PS3 if it were not for a sack of money.

I am very calm. I relax hardcore when I type huge posts and I also am not hateful towards anyone. I get annoyed like everyone else but I do try to stay cool about it. I am not pissed about either PSP or the Nintendo DS excusive. Those games were agreed upon between rockstar and each company as exclusive deals for their system. GTA 4 is not an Xbox 360 exclusive but the 360 is getting major expansion content and the only reason standing is the money and I think everyone knows it. Weather you believe that Rockstar would not have made it if they were not given 50 million from a company that owes them nothing is up to you but I don't think they would have a problem considering the money they have made from GTA 4 and just the mention of GTA would sell when it comes to DLC. Honestly I don't think a company that relies on money to be given to them in order to release an expansion pack would be able to even make a good GTA game.I think Microsoft would not be willing to give away an amount that large if they were just being buddy buddy with Rockstar. They were making it worth not selling as many copies in my opinion. Just me maybe but it's cool I'm out and I hope nobody has any hard feelings. Later.

Ash_735

01-29-2009, 01:33 AM

Since you're relaxed, I'll let you off, your whole posts are just about not liking what MS have done, believe me, each company is to blame, I don't agree with a lot of things Sony do, especially being too laid back this generation and losing soo many exclusives rather than putting up a fight for them against Microsoft. For example, Tekken 6 was developed and designed on the PS3s Hardware and was suppose to come out this March, but Micosoft waved some money at them and now Namco/Bandai are porting it to the 360, which has also pushed the PS3 release back to DECEMBER!

But I must stress, this is EXACTLY the same as LCS/VCS, you shouldn't be angry at Rockstar or Microsoft as the deal was done the same way LCS and VCS was, Sony got them under exclusive contract for all Sony platforms for an unknown amount of money. This generation, Microsoft have done the same, except rather than seperate sold games, they are DLC Expansion Packs. You admitted yourself that YOU mistook how large this DLC was actually going to be, when Microsoft and Rockstar always said it was going to be something big long before GTA IV was released. Once again it's your own mistake that's lead to these mis-informed rants. Sorry for calling you a fanboy though, you just seemed to be very negative against one company.

I'll admit, Microsoft buying all sorts is a 50/50 thing, it can be good and it can be bad. As long as they have the money to invest, they will try all they can to get games on their console, why? So more people will buy it and enjoy more games on it. All companies have made stupid choices, like Sony between 2005-2007, where the PS3 was barely a Games Console and just pushed as a Media Entertainment Center. My only gripe with your posts is that you're argueing about something that was made clear from the start and it's your own error that's led to you feeling fucked over.

Shazly

02-23-2009, 02:20 PM

there r now rumors sayin that sony will announce gta iv dlc for ps3 in e3 09 .. i just hope they're true :confused:

Patrucci

02-23-2009, 02:27 PM

I doubt it.
I'd like to see where you have seen these "rumors"

lillb

02-23-2009, 03:37 PM

me too, besides this sony guy claiming nothing is ever exclusive I havent heard anything official from Rockstar saying that DLC is a possibility on PS3
Not that I'd be upset if there was I just don't know why everyone truly believes there will be with no evidence

zeeshan810

02-23-2009, 04:25 PM

Shazly

02-23-2009, 04:55 PM

I doubt it.
I'd like to see where you have seen these "rumors"

n4g.com .. its an old article though ..

we'll just have to wait and see in e3

Shazly

03-22-2009, 11:39 AM

I'm done waiting .. ill be getting a 360 next week.

Olin

03-22-2009, 11:45 AM

I can only hope you intend to play more than just LaD on your 360.

Shazly

03-23-2009, 03:06 PM

I can only hope you intend to play more than just LaD on your 360.
ofc i do :evilsmile:

Shazly

05-14-2009, 02:54 AM

It still can go to the PS3
Gamestop:
"Lost and Damned headed to PS3 in August?"

What we heard: Microsoft's locking down of exclusive downloadable content for its platforms is a sore point for PlayStation 3 owners. The foremost offenders are the two Xbox 360-exclusive episodes for Grand Theft Auto IV, which Microsoft paid $25 million each for, according to a June 2007 Take-Two Interactive conference call. (A transcript of the call is available on finance blog Seeking Alpha.)

While the timed PlayStation 2 exclusivity on previous GTA games like Vice City and San Andreas helped that platform become the top-selling console of all time, GTAIV has sold best on the Xbox 360. In part, that success was spurred by the two 360-only expansions, the first of which, The Lost and Damned, debuted in February to strong critical praise (see below).

Still, the prayers of many PS3 owners appeared to be answered this week, when Play.tm and about four dozen other multilingual (mostly) European sites cited PSW as reporting that Lost and Damned was PS3-bound. According to Digitial Spy's summary of the article--which is not available online--Microsoft has only a "a six-month exclusivity deal for the content, which expires in August." After that, the magazine reportedly said, the "content will arrive on the PS3 once the deal has run its course."

The official story: Sony did not respond to e-mails, and Take-Two reps politely but firmly declined to comment. Microsoft, however...

Bogus or not bogus?: ...issued a blunt but unequivocal statement about the prospect of a PS3 Lost and Damned. "The [GTAIV] episodes are exclusive to Xbox 360," a rep told GameSpot, officially ruling out any chance of a port. However, Take-Two Interactive's refusal to divulge sales figures for The Lost & Damned make it unclear if Microsoft paid too high a price to keep the add-ons 360-only.