Xbox 360 Runs 720p - PS3 Runs 630p

[Sethos88]

From the guy who 'busted' Bungie on Halo 3 has yet again done some pixel counting on GTA IV.

This may or may not start a 'flamewar', just reporting some news.

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=136366
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1153806&postcount=513

Taken from

Neowin.net (http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=6 33901&st=0)

[randomhero]

630p? never heard of it.

[MyNameIsRamone]

630p? never heard of it.

It's 'cause you own a PS3.

[DiscoBombs]

630p is 1120x630, it's then upscaled to 1080p (1920x1080). So I guess we can forgive 360 pop-ins for rendering at 1280x720.

[bonesmccoy]

Or it's because the difference is negligible.

[Shadow Conception]

But why? Wouldn't it have been wiser to scale the 360 version at 630p in order to maintain better performance, less pop-in, etc?

hah, I bet reviewers are feeling stupid they said the 630p version looks better (and is smoother with jaggies) than the 720p version.

[DiscoBombs]

Because unfortunately Mircosoft and Sony share the common factor of dick-waving competitions and wanted something to gloat over. :/

[Olin]

The pop-in issue is minimal. I suppose they just thought "why fix what's not really broken?"

[Grimmy]

You really don't notice it.

[Sethos88]

You really don't notice it.

I think one of the main points is not the look of the game, It's also a PS3 vs Xbox 360 Hardware statement.
Kotaku reported the 360 version had a smoother FPS. So The 360 runs at 720p with smoother FPS, kinda says something about the brute power, even though people keep going on about how the powerful the Playstation 3 is and the Cell processor will decent to earth with angel wings.

[Xan]

And the total impact on the game franchise due to sub standard quality for children is ..?

As long as the gameplay rocks i couldn't care less about graphics unless it's really necessary to get the felling along with it.

[Fetrey]

I think one of the main points is not the look of the game, It's also a PS3 vs Xbox 360 Hardware statement.
Kotaku reported the 360 version had a smoother FPS. So The 360 runs at 720p with smoother FPS, kinda says something about the brute power, even though people keep going on about how the powerful the Playstation 3 is and the Cell processor will decent to earth with angel wings.

Kotaku is a joke. They are a gossip site run by casual gamers. They have zero journalistic credibilty. They have been caught several times fabricating stories just to stir up controversy. (i.e. saying that Metallica and their lawyers were trying to postpone GH3 and RockBand because they had a change of heart about their songs being used.)

It's funny how everybody else who reviewed GTA4 has said that the PS3 version is better in framerate/AA/pop-in department. Kotaku is the only website that has said differently.

[ktr]

630p must be native res, then the ps3 then upscale it to 720p then adds AA. In result, you get the cleaner picture.

Same crap with DVD upscalers...its just stretches, and adds AA.

But this also shows you that the textures are not even highres for 630p, so 720p is a slight waste of rendering.

[bonesmccoy]

I think one of the main points is not the look of the game, It's also a PS3 vs Xbox 360 Hardware statement.
Kotaku reported the 360 version had a smoother FPS. So The 360 runs at 720p with smoother FPS, kinda says something about the brute power, even though people keep going on about how the powerful the Playstation 3 is and the Cell processor will decent to earth with angel wings.

It's not really considering that everyone else but Kotaku has discussed the slight graphical superiority of the PS3 version. What if 'kind of' says is that the developers went for 720p on the 360, 630p on the PS3, and ended up doing a better job at 630p.

Still, the difference between 630p and 720p is so minute that the human eye could not accurately distinguish between the two.

Red herring, guys, let's move on!

[thenotsogoodtrickster]

I find it amazing how people can try to claim 360 superiority over a few pixels.

[CB]

I'm running at 1080p, shall I put it down to 720? I have an Elite with HDMI.

[Amilo]

I'm running at 1080p, shall I put it down to 720? I have an Elite with HDMI.

I am running at 1080i and was wondering the same thing!
Should I put it down to 720??

[Olin]

1080i is 1920x540 and 720p is 1280x720.

1920x540 might seem more intimidating, but 1280x720 is better if your TV supports it.

[Fetrey]

I always run games at 1080p. I find that if you have a good 1080p HDTV, it's always better to scale games to 1080p.

[ktr]

I am running the ps3 at 1080p. The game looks great, but at times there are annoying aliasing issues during cut scenes.

[xXSoldierXx]

I have a 720p tv that runs the game in 1080p and it looks better for some reason way clearer picture and its not ment to go to 1080p I think im retarted haha

Like my xbox 360 is set to 1080p and looks better than if I set it to 720p but i dont get that

[WheresMalik]

You know, what most people fail to realize is that many games, secretly, run at less-than-normal HD resolutions. Anyone remember that little game COD4? Apparently it, too, ran at 630p on both systems.

No one seems to complain about THAT game looking worse, on either system. In fact, I've never heard a single complaint about that game's graphics. Why complain about GTA IV's? In fact, I'll go one further and say, why complain about ANYTHING so minuscule?

[iKlipse]

I enjoy GTA IV and thats all that matters. I couldn't care less which console has a slightly higher resolution tbh.

[Neil]

I find it amazing how people can try to claim 360 superiority over a few pixels.

The Xbox 360 version renders 216,000 more pixels per frame. If the game runs at 30fps, the PS3 version renders 6,480,000 less pixels per second.

[thenotsogoodtrickster]

The Xbox 360 version renders 216,000 more pixels per frame. If the game runs at 30fps, the PS3 version renders 6,480,000 less pixels per second.

I still don't see how that makes the 360 the better console, that's really to me a fanboyish way of saying the 360 is better tbh.

[owned_by_gta]

i have it for ps3 and 360 and i think they look exactly the same.

[RatedArtist]

read the whole article from the original source beyong3d they say EVEN THOUGH THE PS3 RUNS AT A LOWER RESOLUTION IT IS STILL THE SUPERIOR VERSION

[Ash_735]

Ok, I know a way to end this, Can you play the game on the console of your choice? Is a few thousand pixels here or there going to destroy your enjoyment of the game? Does it REALLLY matter to YOU which version is slightly better at AA or which one can render a few more pixels on a car? This whole thread is just a case of fanboys argueing for the damn sake of it.

[Olin]

I still don't see how that makes the 360 the better console, that's really to me a fanboyish way of saying the 360 is better tbh.He only provided a fact and nothing more. No opinions were shared from him here.

[thenotsogoodtrickster]

He only provided a fact and nothing more. No opinions were shared from him here.

I suppose, but you can't doubt someone else, such as a fanboy, would use it as firepower. And some added info is I'm a 360 guy, I haven't touched a PS3, so (although I'm not insinuating anything) please don't view me as a PS3 fanboy, or an Xbox fanboy for that matter.